How are we not going to need a PS4 pro?

Is there a reason you started your thread with baseless shitposting?

Holy hell OP. Kill yourself.

Kill yourself, my man.

>>>/cuckchan/
Back to all the Sonyggers who actually bought this fucking scam

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Name 5 upcoming games making extensive use of PS4 Pro's hardware that aren't clearly going to be shit.

heh

obvious

Good fucking bait

This may be upsetting, but it's mostly true outside of Holla Forums. Windows 10 comes pre installed with computers now. Many were forced to upgrade automatically by Microsoft. Work and school forces people to use it. Eventually Windows 7 is going to get old. Our only choice then will be to switch to Linux, so I hope all of you are preparing and not getting tired to any platform specific games.

Not only is OP a console warring faggot, he's also a retard when it comes to computers.

I don't, I only play weebshit. Do you think Falcom or KTGust will ever do 4k resolutions?

They will be 1080p and 60fps guaranteed pretty much, that's use enough. Nier already confirmed to run at lower resolution on standard PS4. Nioh might be 720p for 60fps? Can't remember. Nier already lagging a frame behind often enough compared to Pro in demo.

Wrong. You don't have to use win10 Home. Just pirate win10 Enterprise (LTSB).

It's not rocket science. Surely you did the same when win7 came out and pirate win7 Ultimate?

I'd prefer GNU/Linux and I have a hefty backlog across about seven or eight consoles in the event that support is arbitrarily dropped from Windows 7.

Well, I guess they're both similar after all. PS4 still has no fucking games. Neither does Windows 10. The only difference is that I might buy a used PS4 in five years.

Of course I pirated my copy, but the point is to not use Windows 10 for the horrible interface and additional tracking features.

There's nothing wrong with naming an OS after its kernel. Stallman is crazy.

Nier looked just fine for me playing on my Slim the other day. Perhaps if they can get Death Stranding, the Crash remake, MLB, or Persona 5 going at UHD, I'll bite.

I'm confident they can get Hotline Miami 2, Journey, and the PaRappa remaster updated for UHD and graphically simple games like those will be the real litmus test to the value of PS4 Pro.

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1. Most, if not all, PS4 Pro games have so far suffered from lower and more inconsistent framerates, compared with those running on the base PS4 model.
2. Even if you ignore the framerate problems (which you shouldn't do), PS4 Pro is pointless unless you have a 4K TV.
3. Even if you have a 4K TV and ignore the framerate problems, the PS4 Pro can't play 4K Blu-rays.
4. Even if you have a 4K TV, ignore the framerate problems, and don't mind the lack of 4K Blu-ray support, 4K is a meme resolution: unless you have a very large display and are sitting very close, you aren't going to get the full benefit of the increased resolution, since the average human eye resolves at one minute of arc.

Also,
Consider suicide. I dual-boot Win7 (telemetry-free) and Linux, and have no intention of ever deliberately installing spyware Win10 on any machine I own.

I can't fucking believe I forgot to sage. Kill me.

Nice find user, but I prefer them thicker.

I don't think that's much of a concern for your average console-buying consumer. Wake me up when there's a console where I can disable all the bullshit graphic effects and filters to get a stable framerate.

Sounds like a PC.

Addendum: The one clear advantage that PS4 Pro could potentially have lies in VR.
See, PS4 Pro games run at native resolutions that are around 1440p–this then gets upscaled to 4K by the hardware.
However, PSVR games, whether running on the base model or the Pro, are required to run at either 1080p60 or 1080p90, with no drops in framerate or resolution. So because the resolution and framerate are fixed, the more powerful hardware of the PS4 Pro could actually be a benefit, allowing for more visual detail, more complex lighting, etc.
In practice, I suspect that this will not happen. Making your game run at two profiles (one for the base model and one for the PS4 Pro) is demanding enough. Making a third profile for PSVR is going to be at the limit of most developers' ability, in terms of time, cost, or knowledge. Adding a fourth profile for PSVR running on PS4 Pro is something we'll probably only see from the most cash-flush publishers. And they usually churn out shit, anyway.

Is this thicc enough?

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Hehehe, no thanks.

have you morons forgotten what was wrong with these so called "Pro" devices that look like they were made by amateurs

What is it with Burgers who can't understand why shit breaks at high temperatures in their boiler room homes?

You know the US is in the northern hemisphere too, right?

only way I'd buy it is if From put a Bloodborne patch to at least make it run at consistent 30fps with no frame pacing issues.

I'm not even asking for 60fps.

Is that pic a porn crop?

Death Stranding ia coming to PC you slow fuck.
Stop falling for Sonys omission tactics

The problem with this is that you're buying a 32X tier upgrade which removes most of what made a console a decent investement.
Its loke buying PC parts with none of the sofware or hardware freedom, 60FPS or not, which not even that does it manage to do.

I mean the real northern hemisphere, not sandnigger central. Christ most of America is nearly enough in cahoots with Spain and co. I wouldn't last a day there. Air would be way too warm.

It's important not to conflate what you know with what you want to be true.

You should take a geometry class.

someone want to remind me what games we 'need' win10 for?

Lurk more you fuck

You should stop being a mongrel but that's just not possible is it.

Link?

Please, tell me more about how hot Chicago is.

lmgtfy.com/?q=Death Stranding PC

A lot hotter than it is here with my pure blooded europeans.

Oh, so you don't have a link. Cool.

Not if you live near an oceanic coast. It takes a lot of energy to heat up large bodies of water, so ocean coasts tend to be more moderate in temperature year round, not getting too hot or too cold. That's why Siberia is colder than England, for example, despite both being at roughly similar latitudes.

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What can I say, I like conversation even if it's shit.

Did you buy a PS4 for this game or something?
Next you'll tell me that FFVII will also be exclusive.

Fuck
Forgot my downvote

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PS4 pro is the new xbox 360. Now check my dubs and downvote.

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I would actually consider trying Linux again if I didn't have to fuck over my setup to try it everytime. Wubi used to be good but they did away with that years ago.

And yet it was the only good thing about your post. Why would you currently own a Bloodborne machine? There aren't nearly enough good exclusives to justify the purchase.

I think they did away with Wubi because of Secure Boot becoming popular. The point of that is to sign the bootloader, and Wubi replaces the bootloader from what I remember. I have fond memories of Wubi because that's how I got into using Ubuntu, it's a shame there isn't anything like it now.
At least Virtualbox in fullscreen mode is still a thing.

Other than fighting games, no competitive game is played on console and all fighting games run at 60 FPS. Fighting games not running at constant 60 FPS can't be competitive.

Yeah, no, Japs won't buy a new console for a meagre improvement. Sega won't kill their franchise by making it unplayable on the most recent relevant console.

If VK was going to subsume DX12. It would have done it already instead of Kronos still being fucking behind schedule on almost everything that we're now looking at better adaptation in 2018. Oh great, they announced Switch certification WITHOUT EVEN HAVING A FORK READY FOR IT. Fucking Unreal and Unity published their forks for Switch. VK, nada. Nintendo's still using OGL 4.5 by poking in the UE4 Switch branches, even. Has Kronos done anything to promote adoptation? Jack shit. Even AMD paying to fly their software engineers to iD and use Doom as a proof of concept has done jack shit. Never mind Sony said no VK support on PS4 because they want devs to use their own API.

Ironic that this time Microsoft might win this API war because their opposition has become so massively fucking incompetent despite being served up a fucking softball pitch.

Also PS4 Pro is shit, will only be managing 1080p-1440p 30FPS (Or equivalent checkerboard meme resolution) by the end of 2017 in pro mode for the majority of titles (900p for Base PS4) and you shouldn't be shocked because the specs were shit when they leaked and they will still be shit in 2017.

Happy new year you fucking retards.

Is this bait?

No, its a cuckchan crosspost

There were some forums and some clickbait speculation. Nothing solid. I'd be happy to read any link you have with more than rumors, though.

Says the guy who doesn't know what a hemisphere is.

Was it bait over there or has it really gotten that bad?

That's bizarre. Isn't Sony part of the Khronos Group?

Only as a contributor. They use their own in house proprietary wrapper based off an OGL 4.5 fork which already has most of the elements of Vulkan in it. They don't want devs to use VK because GNMX is specific to the hardware and is tightly targeted and letting Devs just port into VK wouldn't be taking advantage of the API for the console architecture ("Console optimization" is still a myth, though. It will always be hardware limited) and they don't like the idea of their API being depreciated. If they see something they like in VK they will work it into a GNMX revision instead. Sony contributes but it's part of their status that they can just fork out from what Kronos have developed before.

Apple cited the same as one of the reasons they moved from OGL 4.5 to their own in house API, Metal for both iOS and OSX and they are still part of Kronos. But then everyone is in Kronos group. Microsoft's part of it as well (Mostly related to WebGL though).

It's just that Khronos have, fucked it up so bad on what they needed to get right that Microsoft will probably win because nearly everyone has a DX12 version on the way with PC versions in 2017 while Vulkan support is few and far between even with a UE4 and Unity backend already supported.

Forget a softball pitch. It was a T-Ball set right up and they still managed to swing and miss. While Apple and Sony are just paying their club house fees and raiding them for the good shit to go along with their own proprietary tech. It's such a fucking mess for what could have been the next revolution in PC gaming.

Reminder that this is the same place that praises Overwatch.

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I don't even have a need for a Base PS4 yet, especially as from what I heard is that Yakuza 6 is by far the worst in the series

No, this is the same place that has one containment thread for faggots who like Overwatch while the rest of the board hates it, them, and nublizzard in general but likes the porn.