I want you faggots to prove to me your not anti-science/evolutionary theory pseudo-intellectuals

Holy shit OP, stop being such a pretentious faggot if you're going to call other people a pseudointellectual.

Leftist theory is based on things happen because other things happen, with a root cause. Anyone posting here could have their entire family tree chased down to a moment someone forgot to buy something and had to go back, meeting the love of their life, or didn't hide well enough during Charlemagne going on a raping spree. These events have shaped not only history, but the happenings and future happenings of everything around us, not just the luck of being born. Human nature is bullshit because every human reacts to the environment and conditions around him as any human would - because he is living under the current system. A change of system would change every part of their life and the outcomes of their thought processes.

Open your eyes m9, everything happens for a reason. Marxists realise that at the end of all these chains of events something awful and unthinkable happens - the complete collapse of capitalism.

I'm not talking about "biological fatalism" I'm talking about the basic notion of human nature. Do you accept it or are you living in a bubble of bullshit? Everyone else knows the answer

Rhetoric isn't the basis of theory, unless you have no fucking clue what you're talking about. Also you complaining about infographs is a really bad sign.

Your a tripfag, shut the fuck up.

Yes you are.

See what did I tell you retard

Do you accept it or are you living in a bubble of bullshit?

You wouldn't know biological theory if it hit you on a cum drenched popsci rag

You don't even understand Biology is still largely a soft science.

How am I even being pretentious? Do you know what that word means?

I am not a tripfag. I am the tripfag.

Nope, talkign about human nature. If you can't involve yourself in the discussion then fuck off.

Talking about a subject as an authority when you are not an authority on the subject. I've had to deal with brains for the past two years now, it's alright to admit you're saying some hyperbolic shit that has no relation to science, biological or medical, whatsoever.

So why can't you just say "I don't believe in human nature" rather than acting like a pussy and reframing the discussion. Don't be a pussy.

The ability to eat, sleep, want sex, and talk out their ass?

Because you're bare bones example of it.

Wasn't talking to you, was I?

Still afraid to answer the question: do you believe in human nature or not? Last time I'll ask.

Because I believe ultimately there is a kind of nature in our own linguistics, but beyond that you literally know jack shit so I wouldn't really specify what you know more of.

Biological fatalism no, but certainly biological nudging. For example surely women having bodies built for birthing and nursing a child by natural selection would have some impact on their life choices? Does it mean women are 100% doomed to be home barefoot and pregnant? No. Does it mean they're more likely than men (who aren't built for children) to want to sacrifice career for a home life? Yes.

Don't post your mom lol

No.

No.

No.

No.

You are pretentious.

This has jack all to do with linguistics and you know it. Typical leftist devolving everything into semantical bullshit because you can't just say, NO I DON'T BELIEVE IN HUMAN NATURE, because that's a dumb fucking thing to say, regardless what you just said was arguably as stupid.

You make wonderfully convincing arguments, you've probably had a lot of practice with talking to people.

My claim is in the OP retard. Also I'm not a leftist, calling me names does nothing.

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Among English-speaking communists and anarchists, Dauvé is best known for his Eclipse and Re-emergence of the Communist Movement, first published by Black & Red Press (Detroit, Michigan) in 1974 and Critique of the Situationist International, first published in Red Eye, Berkeley, California. An essay from the first pamphlet, and the whole of the second article, were reprinted by Unpopular Books in London as What is Communism (1983) and What is Situationism respectively, in 1987. The first pamphlet was reprinted with a new foreword in 1997 by Antagonism (London). It includes Dauvé's own translations of two of his articles and one by François Martin, both originally published in Le Mouvement Communiste at the Wayback Machine (archived October 28, 2009) (Paris: Champ Libre, 1972). These articles develop Bordiga's critique of Second International productivism in light of Marx's writings on formal and real subsumption and the global uprisings of 1968, and revise Bordiga's theory of communization by drawing on council communist and Situationist traditions.

Dauvé also participated in the journal La Banquise, which he edited with Karl Nesic and others from 1983 to 1986. This sought to develop the new communist program suggested in Le Mouvement Communiste through a critical appraisal of post-1968 radical politics, including Situationist and autonomist experiments. It also developed the theory of society's real subsumption into capital. The editors describe their aims and influences in The Story of Our Origins at the Wayback Machine (archived October 28, 2009) (La Banquise, 2, 1983).

More recently, Dauvé, along with Nesic and others, has published the irregular journal Troploin, featuring articles on the collapse of both Leninist and Keynesian regimes of accumulation and the transition to "globalized" neoliberal expansion, the Middle Eastern conflicts, September 11, and the rhetoric and logic of the War on Terrorism. Many have been translated into English by Dauvé himself and are archived on the Troploin website, [1].

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What you're saying? Of course it doesn't. It actually has backing in the soft sciences you rely on to feed you politics.

It's a typical right wing to warm up to soft sciences whenever they feel uncomfortable about the political material reality that faces them

When in fact the soft sciences do not reflect their skin deep observations

I've had a lot of practice talking to people like you and it's why I really refuse to give a complex reply beyond

"No"

and

"Wrong".

Academic understanding of the topic at hand reduces into "Hurr durr u juhs duhn believe in Hermann Nurshure" because like you said anything complicated and semantic is bullshit so we must automatically reduce everything into non complicated pre-algebra for you

I think you meant "does" because otherwise you're agreeing with me.

Also tell me what someone soooo well-read on the sciences, soft, or hard or otherwise, thinks of this article.

physics.nyu.edu/sokal/transgress_v2/transgress_v2_singlefile.html

I DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUR YOUR SPOOKS AND CHERRY PICKED DATA

SAGE

I thought you were just bitching about semantics

>revised May 13, 1995

so what response do you have to this beside being upset I called you a pretentious faggot for acting like one? It's not just a solely liberal/leftist/gulderal margsisd thing, you know?

Address my post and stop being a dick you fucking reddit refugee, stop crying over the coarseness of discourse.

Piracy is a spook.

Oh, I am. Get the fuck out of here with that pseudo-intellectual bullshit. Pomo is dead. Also what the FUCK does the revision date have to do with anything? You avoid every goddamn thing I throw at you, what an intellectual coward.

You fucking retard,how is the negation of property rights a spook, when property rights exists because of spooky concepts such as law and ethics

I hope all the bad things in life happen to you, I hope your nation, race and all other spooks you belive in are destroyed

I didn't say stop calling me names, on the contrary, I said that it has no effect on me, unlike leftists. You can call me the Queen of England if you want, I was just pointing out that it's futile.

Because everything is a spook, including equality and Marxism.

Stop posting images from the 70's of the Miocene and distracting from the point you don't have a point fam.

What is your point? You have a giant generalized point similar to everyone your age who isn't in a university setting. You can't get shit that doesn't look like it was copy pasted from geocities that was from 1994

the fact that you claim you "can belive" in human nature prove it is a stupid argument, which seems fitting for a stupid person like you

every single behaviour and characteristic being present in humans used to support your right-wing drivel has it's opposite which prove it wrong

you are stupid

Address the original post I made for fuck sake. What is this, a social hub? I made my case and you ignored it, respond to that you faggot.

My point is very clearly stated in the OP.

DO YOU HAVE DOWN SYNDROME?

Also, tits or gtfo, I'm done with you.

Do you think you're hurting my feelings by telling me what I know more than you on. My major is on brains. The human brain. I'm in a university studying the one thing you think you're an authority on more than me.

I can tell you, most of you, are not that smart, nor smarter than Africans.

Big red text letters that say I'm not offended

except that is wrong, you stupid cuck, stirner negates moral idealism and labels it as spooks, never in his book did he calls philosophical and material realities, spooks

in fact, philosophical idealism, the one you are arguing for right now, is pretty much a spook

give me one reason why i should bother wasting my time with a retard like you

You've yet to provide any sort of compelling case for why I should read these. If you can actually make a case for that muh human nature invalidates communism, maybe I'll give your trash a look. Start arguing any time.

This isn't like egalitarianism, you can't just say you do or don't believe in human nature. It exists regardless of whether or not you believe in it, to deny it's existence is to give up your credibility, hence my damning charge that's got you 20-something commie fags so ass-blasted.

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REPLY TO MY POST YOU ATTENTION SEEKING CUNT

I can't tell what that is because this board doesn't have any fucking thread IDs. What else do you expect?

But that's you. What is your argument about human nature that I can't fucking debunk with my pinky that is "human nature exists", because under your understanding of it, it does not.

It simply doesn't. I don't have to say more on it. You haven't even read that Pinker book.

Leftist theory is based on things happen because other things happen, with a root cause. Anyone posting here could have their entire family tree chased down to a moment someone forgot to buy something and had to go back, meeting the love of their life, or didn't hide well enough during Charlemagne going on a raping spree. These events have shaped not only history, but the happenings and future happenings of everything around us, not just the luck of being born. Human nature is bullshit because every human reacts to the environment and conditions around him as any human would - because he is living under the current system. A change of system would change every part of their life and the outcomes of their thought processes.

Open your eyes m9, everything happens for a reason. Marxists realise that at the end of all these chains of events something awful and unthinkable happens - the complete collapse of capitalism.

jej

The compelling case is made in the fucking book, but I assume the summary I provided from the back of the book would suffice. Are you blind or retarded? Pick your flavor.

the problem here is that you are not arguing for its existance or not, despite the fact that you are now backpedaling to this, you are arguing for "human nature" to be the basis of your right-wing ideology

and that is wrong, its wrong because for every behaviour and characteristic you try to assign to humans, humans present a direct opposite to it

it is wrong because you are stupid, you never had your argument

it is wrong because you are a faggot

basically you are fucking stupid and lost since you made the OP

I triggered your overlords pretty quickly.

You're not doing yourself any favors by arguing Pinker.

Human nature is irrelevant because it is malleable. It is adaptive. It can be any one thing in any one time. It is not static, and sometimes it is wrong and it is right, existent but not, language but unspoken.

It is never the concrete black and white you portray it as, you're illiterate on the science you're talking about.

It is emotional science.

stay btfo

All it says is 'scientists are disputing this.' No actual arguments.

lol why don't I feel btfo, why do I feel I just triggered some tumblr-tier nannies of yours?

OP cannot answer this

Leftist theory is based on things happen because other things happen, with a root cause. Anyone posting here could have their entire family tree chased down to a moment someone forgot to buy something and had to go back, meeting the love of their life, or didn't hide well enough during Charlemagne going on a raping spree. These events have shaped not only history, but the happenings and future happenings of everything around us, not just the luck of being born. Human nature is bullshit because every human reacts to the environment and conditions around him as any human would - because he is living under the current system. A change of system would change every part of their life and the outcomes of their thought processes.

The actual arguments are in the book you fucking retard.

Sw33t1 :)

I don't believe in the tabula rasa
…which assumes there is a human nature, top fucking lel
I don't believe in souls

"From each according to his ability to each according to his need" assumes there is inequality in ability and inequality in need, I embrace both
I don't believe in metaphysical perfection, particularly when biological systems are involved, such lack doesn't bother me
I observe highly genetically determined behaviors in animals, and we happen to be animals. Perhaps I should use this occasion to remind OP that free will isn't a scientific theory
Well, I think the fear of nihilism has been used more against Marx than human nature, really

Look, do you have a book saying positively what is this human nature supposed to be?

I'm not asking for skepticism over the most frequent and the most sophomoric "criticisms" of "human nature."

I'm asking for what exactly is not learned and what exactly cannot be conditioned.

Sometimes I wonder if this "human" nature is really to be called "human" at all! Is it a constant of human experience hardwired in all of our DNA, or an variable that depends on the individual's or smaller groups' particular genetics?

Because it appears the "humans VS orcs" crowd would only go with the latter, so this "human" nature (singular) turns out to be human natures (plural) all along.

As for the criticism of Pinker's own work, pdf related for a different perspective:
hyllanderiksen.net/Pinker.pdf

And for the last time, no, we're not liberals that would brainwash everyone into indistinguishable, interchangable, and - most importantly - obedient cogs of the capitalist machine.

You haven't read it.

stop repeating the words of your gods

Trolling 2016: Haha, jokes on them. They showed me how retarded I was and I didn't listen!

stay btfo

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gross

You still haven't read that Pinker book.

Anyways Pinker is about an Ass less than a Sagan, he's want to be popsci

my fuckin trip keeps turning off its very irritating

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For anyone else that needs a laugh.

The modern denial of human nature is also the denial of human nature you're speaking of. You just have a jack shit understanding of the human brain.

Nice picture, but when are you going to start giving and responding to any arguments?

These two for example.

Yes user I buy books I don't read so I can post them to look smart on the internet.

I've been giving them if you're not too stupid to find them, though that's probably asking too much.

That's actually my point. I'm insulting you from the caliber of these hot arguments you're throwing about difference in human cognition to the person who's in a university about what makes humans cognitive and how it can differ. Thank you for getting the insult

Learn English you fucking retard.

OP cannot, he is a pseudointellectual who felt he was smart amongst those he looked down on. Truth be told he isn't even a pseudointellectual, but an idiot, getting the shit kicked out of him by the very average users of leftypol

Okay I think this is the time we sent you off to Holla Forums, since you haven't after several prompts.

Thank you for admitting it.

quick to jump at a spelling mistake, but never an argument

So you accept that humans differ but you won't accept that differences in sex can lead to different life decisions?

you probably wouldn't respond to them cuck

This bitch is omniscient now.

It's cute when you use our terms like that, as if that will perturb me or something.

Is your argument a canceled Adult Swim show

I mean, I'm more learned on the subject you're talking about than you are since I happen to be working to be a medical professional.

I can diagnose you with autism from here.

OP please delete your thread I'm starting to feel embarrassed for you, you're retarded as fuck.

Opinion immediately discarded.

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In many ways related to material experience. Pressures and stresses, chemical imbalance, etc.

There is nothing to evolutionary psychology, it's been debunked so many god damn times at this point it makes the arguments you make about humanities being unemployable to shame really

Then I'm right at home.

You can't discard a diagnosis son.

I don't think it would, as i am sure you are very familiar with the concept

of course all those GB of cuck porn is for "ironic shitposting"

feel free to stop being a cuck and reply to

Women love attention even if they don't do anything to deserve it.

but why would you complain about that? its their human nature :^)

What do you deserve more than I? What labor have you given to society?

okay???

see

i accept your defeat cuck

lol true

women are not physically capable of working in construction or fighting in combat, you require men to sustain your daily existence, shut the fuck up and show me your tits you spoiled brat

Why would if matter if whites were dumber?
No, don't be a dick. That's not egalitarian.
No.
Okay you can have that.

Idpol is idpol. If the far right wants to survive, just like the far left. You have to slough off the rotting corpse of idpol.

Who the fuck cares if one race is smarter? We are still getting paid shit as the working class.

Anyone can do idpol, the real work physically, intellectually, and emotionally lies in economic change.

Neither are you shrimp dick lmfao

That's not an actual standard of societal standing or labor.

Leftists are really good at living in made-up worlds where they can make shit up, I'm really bad at that and find it painful.

why are you complaining, it is in your human nature to sustain them after all :^)

At least you admit it. Now unless you show me your tits then don't bother babe.

that a cool sentence and very edgy but in no way answers this

feel free to explain how "human nature" defends your right-wing drivel

Yes, I am in a university and you are not. You also are not in the military.

I will make more than you, and you do not have a solid plan for retirement. You will be in a wheel chair in Inpatient being cared for by me and given pills by me by 2054.

Thank you. I'll make money off you.

thats it's

kek, thats what happens when you deicde to be a little faggot, OP

Please ban everyone in this thread. Thanks.

mighty optimistic, anfam.

I don't profit off misery, I'm misreable in it. I'm severly depressed. I am in it, because I've been on the internet long enough to see tragedy, and want to help people. I don't care if you think I'm not, if I have to do labor, I will do it to help people who in any other place would be homeless or laughed at.

I do it because even if it's pacification, no change will occur, and pacification is better than suffering in a world patients don't understand, who are deeply afraid of everything.

I'm just trying my best to make the world a better place, no better or worse than anyone.

AnFem, if you read this, you're alright. I honestly wasn't really being serious, at all. I'll stop being mean to you now, you just post b8 all the time and I figure if you give it you should be able to take it. Take care of yourself, honestly. I'm sure you're a good person.

wasn't gonna bump this but I actually feel bad now.

t. no gf nazi

Tabu La Raza, am I right?

ghost in the machine
thats a long set of words for simply believing in free will, which necessarily requires some "thing" to make decisions outside of this body which is wholly material and thus physics/chemistry makes it move

nice polar strawman
the two answers "either free will" or "determinism means fatalism" are not the only options
in fact, fatalism is completely separate from determinism
determinism: things happen because they must happen so
fatalism: things happen badly and your movments have no effects on anything else
only a college dropout or a neverbeen could mistake those two as the same idea

you might be an undergrad with high hopes of studying the thing (the brain) yet you still think of it as a self contained thing to study rather than the body in whole and the environment it inhabits
you're clearly a undergrad and not even third year