Skyrim belongs to the Nords

Where does the time go

Not talking about that, but the fact that literally ever Nord has the battlecry "Skyrim belongs to the Nords".

I don't mean the greater civil war theme.

I mean since every single Nord says it, it would be like taking a bus to town and have some guy nod to you and say: "Germany belongs to Germans, one day we will expell all those Kanacken and Mudslimes".

Damn, skyrim is so red pilled, good thing I bought it, sosthe I can support the devs have the same political values as me.

Who cares, the best part of the game is the lewd mods.

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no daddy no

lmao

uhh …

stop

Its to late

And the game also has 6 million characters that kvetch about the Nords being racist towards them. The word "racist" is literally used many times in the game by nigger elves and argonians.

It was a shit thread anyways….

There's never been a single good Elder Scrolls game. Trust me. I checked.

did you check these?

Definitely a coincidence. Stormcloaks are a clear reference to Nordic nationalist movements, not an FBI honeypot on an internet forum that no real nationalists go to.

Never thought to. I guess your number is like the Elder Scrolls.

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a single digit?

No more?

It's gay.

Thank you user, I thoroughly enjoyed that.

no u didnt

Wow, problematic.

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wtf i hate nationalism now

Stormclocks are the good guys if you know the lore as well as Todd Howard does.

Probably not, Todd Howard is a pretty "redpilled" guy I hear.

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Yes actually. At the time having two sides that both are interesting and moralistically justifiable was still ok, because it was story telling with political tones left up to the viewer.

Also: Khajit, bum thieving nomad race = Gypsy

Dark Elves, underhanded tricky silver tongues = Jews

Orcs, ugly dumb brutes = Mongolians/Khans

High elves are just jewier elves though.

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you mean you love it now?

Todd brainwashed children into being nationalists.

Love that parallel to real life.

I always thought of the elves as Asian.

You know, that androgynous race with low test, more petite form, intelligent, less phsysically strong and slanted eyes.

:(

The only good thing about the Elder Scrolls series of computer games is the utter treasure trove of obsessed autists.

Checks out.

why this

That's how the dark elves lure you into their devilish tricks.

wow

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so uhh, just exactly how much of this exists?

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I already filtered him desu.

What the fuck user this is Holla Forums tier but I love it

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This has been an incredibly upsetting thread.

Ulfric Stormcloak was an inside job. What about Messenger Seven? How come no Thalmor were present when the Emperor was shouted to death? Buy my skooma filters.

post moar
I need to end my fap session with a grand finale

I know you are joking, but the Thalmor stratfor-like analyzing that a civil war with no clear victor is benefical to them, does not make Ulfric a hidden Thalmor agent.

I heard other people think it's that way, which is incredibly stupid imo.

You're desperately grasping for straws.

No, I am not.

Grasping at straws would be if I said that this proves that Bethesda has a white nationalist agenda.

european nationalist*

I don't want to use burger terms.

sheeeeeit

banned

There was ambiguity. From a purely external view it seems obvious that the Stormcloaks are the good guys, but from the Imperial perspective Mede knows what he's doing. While the diplomatic terms of the War were rough for the humans, the Empire would recover faster and be able to stomp the Dominion in Round 2 so long as their provinces didn't all break off.

But then the Dominion set about breaking off the provinces. They've now lost the Bosmer and the Khajit, and the Redguards. Morrowind is now out of the picture as well because it got nuked.

The Nords are the only bulwark left. If they break off, the Colovian heartland won't be able to hold against the Dominion.

So while the Stormcloaks might be good for the Nords short-term, it took the entire Empire minus them to fight the Dominion to a standstill last time, this time the Dominion will have most of the former Empire and their own fresh forces with which to face the Nords and Imperials separately both diminished by civil war.

Given this, the Empire has just as rational of a case for preventing the extinction of the human race as the Nords. The Nords just appeal to the LARPy Varg Vikernes crowd more because of the religious element to the war.

What the fuck happened? Was it funny shitposting?

I'll let you decide.

big CP dump

Yes you can equate many things to other things
Maybe the Treaty of Versailles.
Maybe the League of Nations.
Long heads instead of noses?

Game of Thrones is a bunch of interesting history inspired events.

The witcher book series makes a large amount of allusions to classic grimm fairy tales and the like.

Doesn't take too much to read between the lines of Tolken's works.

Steep anything in enough allegory and perhaps you can make a good story you could actually sell.

I myself only really write when I feel passionate about something and it is real easy to go:
What if [Noun 1] were nations.
The figureheads were rulers.
The history of [Noun 1] is the history of those nations.
You have now world built.
Now make the story either
or

The real decision is Sci-Fi, Fantasy or some other theme.

Legit cp?

Any name I make up is original without being speshul snowflaek shit.

hardcore rape CP

Elder Scrolls autists from Reddit got niggered.

Potential false flag in an attepmt to shut down fullchan?

No, you are wrong.

The Nords will be stronger on their own and as allies as significantly more valuable than just a war-torn, oppressed province.

Supporting the Empire is a pleb tier choice. You want the Nords to be real traditional Nords again, they lost so many of their traditions.

They will be exponentially stronger, possibly even conquer the Empire, when they experience a true nordic renaissance.

I am talking about the Companions being real Companions again and not some downtrodden Werewolf club. The voice actually being practiced by more than just a few greybeards and Ulfric again. And more.

Wanting everyone to conform to the Empire would not only make sense in a similar situation in real life, but also directly in universe.

I never said it was an allegory.

He's bullshitting, mate. It was a bunch of shitty MS comics.

What is it with autists and degenerate shit like gore and fecal matter?

That shit is tame. I expected worse from the reactions. It almost feels like a reddit thread.

Rugga thread.

The reactions were mostly because of how fucking strange it was.
At one point he cut off some woman's tits, put it on his face and said "LOOK AT ME, I'M MOTHERFUCKING SNOOPY"

Somebody has well drawn giantess dragon porn?

You're not fucking serious.

bruh just read the comics

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Somehow I doubt very much that the Nords are going to be anybody's allies after killing every Imperial-Friendly noble in the country, killing half of the Legion, and expelling the Emperor's influence from the country. It's an enormous civil war that, combined with the dragon crisis, burns down a significant portion of the country and destroys about half of its fighting power, since about half of the country supports the Empire, and would have to be forcibly conquered.

The ideal situation would've been if the civil war had never happened and Ulfric simply hadn't risen to power, but given that that bit of Aldmeri nation-building has already succeeded, the next best outcome would be for the rebellion to be quickly defeated and the country brought back into the Imperial Fold.

Countries don't experience reneissances after half of their populations are slaughtered and they alienate all of their allies, what Skyrim needed was to wait five more years and destroy the fucking Dominion so that they could undo the whitegold concordat and get things back to normal.

It would even have been fine if Ulfric had seized control but then NOT rebelled against the Empire, since he was legally High King and could press that claim. Civil war never helps.

this is going to be a meme now.

No it isn't. Skyrim's situation is more akin to Britain in regards to the EU (except that the Empire in skyrim is far more sympathetic). Europe for the europeans is the kind of sentiment globalist (or rather continentalist, same ideology but on a smaller scale) faggots convinced of their traditionalism carry when in reality their ancestors would be fucking ashamed of them for treating Europe like a monoculture and considering racemixing between anglo-saxons, germanics, nords, etc. I can only imagine the horror of the Romans and medieval Britons if they discovered that even their so-called "ethnonationalist" descendants outright admire northern vikings and germanic barbarians and would even willingly mix with them. To say nothing of how mortified they would be to know many of their descendants are mutts with Irish and slavic blood, people who they considered subhuman.

confirmed for thalmor shill

Dude I've seen the messages. The Thalmor hacked the election. Talos is a God. Ulfric is a traitor.

Here is a question: Why didn't the Blades whack Ulfric in response to him shouting the death the empruh? Is he unkillable for them tooo?

cool lets just let muhammed and jamal rape Europe to death at the order of kikes then haha

It already was.

IT'S FUCKING FICTION YOU RETARD

tell that to Anita Sarkeesian

Commander Breivik was still free.

Fucking who?
Amoeba Sarkenstein is a nobody now.

Calm down m8

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You'd think the EU would at least have the decency to hire competent shills.

gud times

I downloaded the whole comic, do I post it?

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I remember shitposting this back in 2011
I kinda wonder if I am really better off, despite a job and a more well-rounded view of the world

One at a time, and spoil the lewds, to avoid pissing off the gay mods.

Actually, they do have the Dunmer. Ulfric was supportive of the Dunmer, and was the one who allowed the grey quarter to come about. Unfortunately, the ones who took up his generosity were absolute scum.

I think he was also responsible for them owning a good portion of that island that was once Nordic land. Probably infuriating his ancestors that died fighting Dunmer, but that is life for you.

I am transforming it into a video

Why is it so autistic?

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Nations don't have allies. They only have geopolitical interests.

Those concerns are maybe useful for propaganda, but not for an elite ruling a nation.

There is nothng stopping the Nords from working with the Empire after the civil war. Just like there was nothing stopping the Redguards from working with them.

That is a faulty analysis. I don't see how it would. This is not a firearms-era civil war with a mobilized populace, who is enraged by propaganda.

Holy shit, you are serious. You actually think wars are thought by killing the enemey completly off.

Holy shit, where are you from? America? What was your edcuation like?

There is no absolute legal authority in this or any world. Like today "constitution is a living, breathing document" or back then "countless succession wars".

Now it obviously helps if you can convince other people that you are "actually I am the Highking", but it's just politics. The Empire would still do what it does, no matter if some legalistic complications are hindering them.

You seem super pleb-pilled to me btw.

Jesus christ, dude. Have I been baited?

give it up dude, he thinks that in a civil war the losing side needs to be completly butchered or the war can't be won/you wouldn't control the country

like somehow the majority people wouldn't just fall in line ….

dont respond to the bait like I did

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Can I still take elven wives if I join the stormcloaks?

i actually got perma-banned for posting that in one of the european RPG forums back 2 months after Skyrim launched

Ironically when GG launched in full force that same forum revealed itself as 100% kikes and feminists who censored everything.

Why take wives? Just lock them in your rape basement.

Really was, actually. I mean, sure, the Nords were pretty much the flat bad guys, but still. Now a days they'd not even be allowed to say that.

user, you cute stupid fuck

Wait, did the argonians ever actually care? They always seemed pretty okay with things, to me. Sure, they were mostly limited to the docks, but they weren't really 'second class citizens' near I could tell. Best you could say is they were typically poor. Meanwhile, drugcats weren't even allowed in the city.

The reactions are mostly because he posted something like 200 comics in the span of ten minutes.

It's an allegory for interwar Germany, with Ulfric representing Hitler. Nobody caught on because 99% of the audience is retards.

God that pic gets me every time.

haha, I like you, user

I don't know how anyone can think the Nords were the bad guys when the Imperials try to kill you for no reason five seconds into the game and send innocents off to be tortured by people they were just at war with for worshiping a god that everyone was fine with until elf-jews forced them to stop in a peace treaty designed to break up the Empire. Which the Empire signed full well knowing that it was a fucking retarded idea just to have peace. If the Empire isn't evil it is incompetent to a degree that is baffling.

They tried to show them pretty bad, mate. Except for trying to murder you, I don't remember anything from the Empire that set them as bad. Officially denying 'talos' was the only thing worth note they have other than that, and they don't actually give a fuck. You were given literally every reason to join the Empire.

Meanwhile, Nords are stuck to being racist thugs who are only starting a war for power, playing directly into the Thalmore's hands, and generally doing fuck-all for the actual people, beyond protecting the 'talos' religion.

Both sides are shit, don't get me wrong, but the Nords were clearly set up to be the more shitty option.
Best course of action would be to take the throne yourself, because 'muh dragonblood line means I am da line of septim'

That 'kill you at the start of the game' was all the negative points they got, though. They never, to my knowledge, actually do anything about talos worship, leaving it to the Thalmor to actually do anything about it.

They got nearly destroyed in the war, and essentially got screwed over by the stalemate agreement that left the Thalmor slightly better off. But you know what? It's pretty clear they don't like the situation either, and unlike elves, humans make a lot of kids pretty quick.
Which is why the Thalmor enlisted the help of Ulfric to screw everything up, by starting another bloody war to keep the Empire down.

The Nords would be better off governing themselves if the Empire is going to just let a foreign government kill it's citizens on it's own soil.

most players reported that they went with the Stormcloak guy in the beginning and subsequently joined them

I myself was so immersed the first time playing, that I didn't even see the Imperial guy at the end and just run into on the doors.

No.

technically every single war is over power

no, they are not, it would be in their interest to have neither side win

That is the pre-firearms era, where aside from some proto-socialist experiments in the greek and roman world, there was no welfare state.

Uga buga, I need the gubbermint to steal from me to give me gibs me dats back. Uga buga.

I completly disagree. They are the patrician choice and the pleb choice. Choosing Imperial is for inbetween guys like you, who haven't realized that the Stormcloaks are the patrician choice.

Kinda like european nationalism. There are the common racists, the pleb centrists, leftists and conservacucks (although differently from the skyrim exampleI prefer the common racist) and lastly there are people who recognize that you taxation is theft and stealing money from your population (which incentivizes them to have less kids) and give it to foreigners is just simply disgusting and completly amoral.

The fucking moment you start to game Imperials try to hang you even though they have no idea who you are or what you did

If you pay attention they also invited the people they just had a war with to watch them kill their own subjects because the elves told them to start shit with the Nords.

When you are doing it to appease said nation so that in a few years you can kick their asses, it isn't.
Meanwhile, the Nords are going to die pretty much as soon as they are independent. After all, the Thalmore no longer have any treaty to worry about, once that happens. Good job, stormcloak retards, you played directly into the hands of the knifeears.

If the Empire can't even beat the Nords how are they going to beat the Thalmore? Also letting your enemy kill your subjects in the mean time isn't going to make you stronger it's going to make you weaker.

Also every single other race's homeland is independent and the Thalmore haven't wiped all of them out so your argument is retarded.

Here they are

Yeah, that was Bethesda's shitty attempt to make 'morally grey' factions.
The best they could come up with is "they try to kill you for no raisin"

See above. Bethesda is shit at writing, so that's what they went with.
I followed the Stormcloak guy, too, because following the guy who worked for the guys trying to kill you is dumb. Doesn't mean I joined the Stormcloaks. I can see the bigger picture, after all, and they've got no longevity.
kek
Nice argument, faggot.

In Ulfric's case, it was about power, rather than the people. He didn't give a shit about his people.

Ideally it'd be in their interest to have neither win and have a permanent war that drains the Empire's resources, yes. But, guess what?
That still is playing into their hands, the Stormcloaks got.
And it also plays out better for them to have the Stormcloaks win than lose. After all, if they win, they are no longer protected by the treaty between the Empire and Thalmor. And how effective do you think some shitty icebox is going to be against the guys who just kicked your much tougher grandady's ass?

You don't gotta have welfare to help people, you dumbass krautwhore faggot.
Go back to sucking Castro's dick

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The Empire allows a foreign government to kill their citizens on their own soil for even knowing about people who worship Talos you really thing they are fighting for the people?

They aren't worshiping Talos, the guy that those crazy bastards want to wipe out in order to fuck up the universe and send them back to the aether.
Learn your lore, you newfag.

If the Stormcloaks can't even beat the Empire, how are they going to beat the Thalmore when they are no longer protected by the treaty that keeps their snowfucking asses protected?

Splitting off into a tiny faction because some assholes killed your gay lover isn't going to make you stronger, either. Meanwhile, licking your wounds while your enemy stagnates does improve your strength.

No. Welfare destroys nations. We can have private charity for that, but welfare alone is bad enough. Open borders and welfare is a nation-destroying policy.

that doesn't even make any sense, user

t. I have no idea about geopolitics

You can't just randomely invade a nation that is so seperate from you.

That is how stupid you sound.

How are the Thalmore going to invade Skyrim if they are still fucked up from the war with the Empire? If anything the Thalmore are worse off with an independent Skyrim because now they have to fight a war on two fronts.

1. Sage and report for obvious underage.
2. The kikes of the franchise were behind the breakaway group, so Bethesda will still hang with the rest of them.

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Considering the alternative is to start another war that they aren't equipped to handle resulting in the death of the entirety of the Empire, not to mention the complete eradication in a much more harmful way of those Talos worshipers you are talking about, yeah, it sounds quite a lot better than the other guy's line.

Stormcloaks are retarded, and think that they'll somehow magically be able to beat the Thalmor, who utterly trashed the Empire last time around. Did you not pay attention to anything what happened in the game? They explained all this. These guys trashed everything. It was a huge damage.

If the Thalmore won so hard why didn't they finish the job then? Face it they don't have it in them to get the job done that's why they are trying to destroy the Empire with this sneaky jew shit because they won't be in fighting shape for another two hundred years. The Empire not telling them to fuck off with their treaty is going to be the death of them.

Oh, not only are you retarded, you are also illiterate.
You don't have to have welfare to help people, you dumbass krautwhore faggot.
Again, go back to sucking Castro's dick, you libcuck queerboy.

t. I can't read

The country isn't separate from "you", the country is separate from the Empire, and therefor no longer protected by the treaty that meant a ceasefire between the Thalmore and the Empire.

Why the fuck is China invading the eastern Roman Empire?

But, whatever, let's work with this absolutely assretarded statement:
Why wouldn't China be able to invade the Holy Roman Empire, who has split off from the eastern Roman Empire, which they had a treaty with that would not allow them to wage war against?

God damn, I knew libtards were stupid, but this is something else entirely. Fucking hell, I've seen better quality posts from Youtube.

Plebs chose stormcloaks, semi-plebs choose the Empire. Only true patricians choose the Stormcloaks.

Skyrim can produce stronger warriors by being independent, especially after the Stormcloaks introduce a nordic renaissaince.

In the lore their most feared warriors were schooled in the power of the voice.

Today under the Empire? No one knows the voice, except for a handful of hermit monks and Ulfric.

Do you know understand what kind of power can be unleashed from a Skyrim that opts out of the Empire and introduces their old heritage again? Think of the Companions, do you think it was always a secret furry club?

This is the ultimate redpill here, user. Open wide and swallow.

I have no how the fuck global politics work, so I'll just ask a simple question.

Is it in everyone else's interests to try and stop a war between 2 random countries that hate each other or even intervene in a civil war? I like imagining that 2 or more small countries will decide they're tired of the other's shit and the majority of both populations start blowing each other the fuck up while the rest of the world watches in indifference, concern or amusement.

But then I have to think about the danger that presents to bystanders or foreigners that aren't degenerate as well as if the global economy might suffer from one side completely annihilating the other.

Because they were also weakened.

But let me let you in on a little secret:
A weakened Russia after the Cold War could still beat the shit out of any piece of garbage tiny ass buttfuckers what pick a fight with them. Weakened doesn't mean that your shithole icebox is somehow going to go toe to toe with a world power.

Today?

Absolutely it's in the other country's interest. Colonialism transitioned seemlessly in a globalist trade deal network. Everything is dependend on companies and other nations counting that contracts continue.

If it's not in their interest then stuff like Syria happens, where the American Empire tried to intervene and now with internal struggles flirts with a fascist-like foreign policy of heavily antagoinizing Russia for the purpose of domestic policy.

But the Elder Scrolls have nothing to do with this, because it's a medieval world and they function differently. They never truly unite.

Brexit and Trump confirmed stage one and two of ISIS plan to take over newly independent Britain and USA.

Also:
Thanks for supporting my point, asshole.

They are currently a match for the Empire.
But the Empire, being human, isn't going to take 200 years to recuperate.
The Empire is going to take, at most, fifty.
Then they'll tell those knife-ear dickhounds exactly where they can shove that treaty.

This is why they are doing, as you put it, 'sneaky jew shit', like splitting the country with a civil war. Because, a split up bunch of small shitholes is easy to kill.

Finland would like to have a word with you about your retardation.

I could see it as a plan to take on Europe, but the US is a world power, and Britain is nothing to scoff quite at either.
But if relations decay with Europe enough, the US won't bother helping. Then ISIS can do whatever they want.

When your time against the wall comes, don’t look shocked.

Finland is different, being the children of mongols. Nobody beats mongols.
Except I believe Vietnam. That was either mongols or huns, though.

Neither interest nor business. A sovereign nation has the right to war, and no third party nation has the right to intervene.
Stop using jewish terms.

I just want to live out my fantasy of being the only legitimate emperor heir because my PC is Dragonborn.

sue me

Yeah, but the Thalmor don't have the capabilities to just launch an invasion into every country they feel like.

They are not going to be able to attack Skyrim for logistical reasons alone.

You can even say that their supply routes are allowed to go through Redguard or Breton territory or the sea. It just wouldn't be possible to support an invasion.

So really saying shit like that makes you completly ignorant about geopolitics.

Holla Forums are you acting closet gay again? You want to grind yourself against me standing on a wall?

Do you realize how cringy you sound?

It's kind of related. I always wondered why kingdoms never cared about 2 of their neighbors deciding to fuck each other's shit up.

Not when you have to fight all of them dumb-ass. You think the Empire is going to sit around and let the Thalmore fight Skyrim and then pick them off later? No they are going to kick some elven ass.

Same.
They should've made that an option. You can murder the previous Emperor, so it isn't like there's not a space.

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Cyrodil was a world power once too.

Two assassinations and a few generations later and they're not allowed to worship their human god anymore and are one bad day away from being New Summerset.

They don't have the capabilities to just launch an invasion into every country, yes.
A weakened Skyrim, cut off from the Empire?
Easy pickings.

Why would they?
What possible reason do they have to piss off the Thalmor?

You don't have to fight all of them, you idiot.
God damn.
It's like I am talking to CNN or something.

When the Empire already is weakened to the point that they couldn't do jack shit, and now they just lost another chunk? When that chunk is also weakened by a recent civil war?
Yeah. I do believe they aren't going to do anything. It'd be suicidal.
Patience is a virtue.

Except the part where once the Thalmore send all their forces to Skyrim the Empire will attack them while they are fucking around with the Nords.

Still is. The Thalmor and Empire are the two, at least as far as we know, most powerful nations. Even as they are, severely weakened from a long and bloody war.

See above, you commie-loving libcuck.

If you help the Redguard mercenaries capture the women they're looking for, they tell you that the resistance against the Aldmeri Empire is 'going strong'.

Since Highrock is just north of Hammerfell, it's presumable they're either fighting against the empire as well, or staying out of things and taking advantage of Hammerfell being between them and the Aldmeri.

Well, say some gold or other rare metal literally got reduced to black smoking paste in the crossfire. For the longest time I thought whatever profits contributed to global brands of food and shit meant that not trying to stop war would be a bad idea because consumers wind up dropping massively and too much money could literally be destroyed.

No user you are the retards.

You know, it's come to my attention that there aren't alot of games that I can think of, certainly none of Bethesda's Elder Scrolls series of games that allow the player to have a position of feudal/political power any higher than some knightly order or a guild or other small organizations. I can't think of many acceptions and just once I'd like to see the PC be able to b a long lost bastard to an imperial/kingly dynasty and have this reality crash unto their backs when their family is murdered/ousted etc.

It's the cliche I'm a sucker for and I haven't seen in games like this. Dragon Age: Origins did it alright with the Human Noble origin but then you had to fuck off and abandon your inheritance and legacy to fight monsters and if you don't die like it canonically makes sense to you can become king/queen of the nation so that's the fucking closest I've gotten.

Thoughts? I'm not talking about some bullshit geopolitical debate, I just want to be a fucking king

If you help the chick, she claims to be for the same group.
I'm not inclined to believe either of the two.

Mate, if you aren't going to take this conversation seriously, there's no point in us having it.
You might as well tell me Hitler had the right idea invading the USSR.

Nice ad-hom faggot they can't fight both Skyrim and the Empire with their full strength fighting only one would result in the other beating the Thalmore down fighting both would result in a war of attrition the elves can't win.

The Thalmore can't be everywhere at once nigger fighting them while they are off fucking about in Skyrim would be the best thing to do for the Empire.

They can care in some situations, for example when there is a power imbalance.

Ceasare Borgia was a failed Alexander the Great figure. He tried to conquer Italy, but ultimatively failed, because his father empowered the Vatican state instead of him and because major Powers like Spain and France were just too strong. He as not able to play them against each other to take power.

Other than that only the Pope cared. His power relied on making rulers conform to spritual rules or come to him for absolvence. So he had a strong rational incentive to care about stuff like that, even if he morally might have not cared.

fuck off, it's adorable

How? The ships supply line is going to be insanely long, together with the needed intital armada to house thousands of troops.

It's a logistical nightmare.

And then the delays … or the pirates. When the Roman Empire collapsed or even before that Piracy was at an all time high, because the state didn't need a navy, because it conquered every other naval power.

With the Empire something similar might happen. Just imagine the piracy at the Illiac Bay.

local factions, because they are not a unified modern nationstate, you idiot and strategic interests, like for the High Rock to prevent being sandwiched

or that

jesus christ, so much fucking plebs in here

like concepts from the cold war can just be applied here

I agree. I would like more such games. I have high hopes for Northern Shadows that gives me some of those feels.

Crusader Kings just doesn't make me feel it.

Does she? I always help the mercs, mostly because I like doing that quest early and fighting them seems pretty suicidal, especially as the Sneak focused character I usually play.

Happened to me on a naruto rpg site.
Suddenly every ninja we had was "Sickened by males" or "Sick of this entitlement!"

I just wanted to be left alone

Becoming the Emperor proper is definitely something that should happen, considering how shit the two options in Skyrim are.

Considering you can mass produce Daedric armor, I don't think it is hard to say that you could kick some serious Thalmor ass.

Mate, they don't need to be everywhere. They just need a small part in Skyrim, the rest fighting the actually proper threat in the Empire.
It isn't hard pickings here.
Skyrim is weakened from a civil war, the Empire is weakend from a massive war with the Thalmor and the civil war they just had. This isn't rocket science here. This is a very, very simple line of thinking. It is something even the most retarded child could figure out.
I honestly don't understand why you are having so much trouble with this.
It's like you haven't even played the game, let alone actually taken a step outside and started thinking about how shit works.

If they can fight the Empire while Skyrim was united, they can fight Skyrim and the Empire.
Only an absolute moron would think otherwise.

You are not only under the idea that a shitload of people would have to die, in any case, or that somehow not being under a ceasefire worked out by the empire (Which is already being subverted and controlled) is bad. If the Nords, given their landscape and wildlife, acted intelligently and were not Imperial Puppets, they could effectively become Finland/Russia-tier, where they force their enemy to fuck off through sheer attrition. Hell, it looks like the Thalmor already have alot of fucking trouble even with a docile population and Imperial support, what kind of hell would they go through if the Nords all hated them immensely and literally not a single cucked imperial was in power for them? They'd be fucked, mate, even if they beheaded the King and decided to occupy the territory.

Every time.

Or magic. Considering the High Elves are some of the best magicians in the world, simple teleportation makes a fair bit of sense. But, then, you are overestimating the logistical concern here anyway. We're talking a nation that's done it before, after all. They wrecked the Empire not that long ago.
We're talking a huge force. Not a couple of boats, not even one armada. We're talking two of the biggest superpowers in the setting. This isn't Russia facing off against the US, even at the height of the cold war. This is the US facing off against the US, albiet both weakened somewhat from the last time they fought, but still with their capabilities.

They're not about to abandon their navy, either, just because the Empire isn't doing as well as they used to be.

Let me rephrase:
What possible reason could the equivalent of Nigeria have to piss off the equivalent of the United States?
Again, people aren't suicidal.

If Skyrim went independant they'd likely just hole up and stay defensive while the Aldmeri attacked the Imperials.

And if the Aldmeri were smart, they'd take advantage of this, focus on fighting the Empire, and save Skyrim for after, when they can focus their efforts on fighting the Nords, and have control over the southern front (and probably the eastern front as well, since Morrowind would be easy pickings if Cyrodil fell).

The Thalmor outlawing talos worship is a good thing, by doing that Talos as a god will continue to lose power until he ceases to be, but he won't cease to be, the Dragon Born will mantle him and become the next Talos defeating the Thalmor possibly forever giving them exactly what they always wanted.

it wouldn't surprise me if the Dragon Born mantled both Talos and Alduin at the same time and then destroyed the world and rebuilt it in his own image effectively going full circle and becoming Lorkhan again and Beth used this as an excuse to rescale the world of Nirn, not that they needed an excuse in the past. I wish they would do Elder Scrolls (city) and had a whole map consist only of a city and it's surroundings but the map was larger than Oblivion/Skyrim combined.

Without new Talos Tamriel will stay in a perpetual state of Thalmor semi rule and small squabbles between the minor provinces will continue to break out.

Pro tip the Thalmore didn't have to send soldiers to Skyrim when they were just fighting the Empire now they have logistic problems up the ass and two nations they need to fight that recover from war faster than they do.

With goverment you can't be left alone.

Coercion is always win-lose, so you will not be left alone.

Just imagine what a shitty strategy game it would make if you were able to just do that.

Holy shit, that would be bad.

Only an absolute moron would think otherwise.

No, they can't.

Give Skyrim a few years and if the Stormcloaks aren't retarded, there will be a new class of people who is able to shout. Many probably on Ulfric level, but there are a few outliers.

It would also be easy to argue that either the Skyrim Kingdom as a a whole, independent warlords or warlords under nominal rule of the High King are going to launch invasions into border regions and set up their own petty kingdoms.

It could be a sorta reference to the viking Age.

Now that I actually think about the better this sounds.

A shit load of people wouldn't have to die as a result of a bloody civil war?
How?

The Thalmor do not have any support from the Empire. They say so themselves. The Empire restricts them at every turn they can. The Thalmor want nothing less than to run around burning and pillaging, and only the Empire stops them from doing exactly that.

So, how could the Thalmor, who are a major power that managed to fight and beat the Empire, going to lose to a tiny ass nation of backwards snowfuckers who have barely any magical support?
They aren't, that's how.

Finland beat Russia user. Just because someone is bigger doesn't mean they are stronger.

You mean able to use one mediocre shout? Wow, yeah, totally a fighting force a nation of mages wouldn't be able to tangle with.

I like this user.

They share a border and i haven't heard anything about them using mass teleportation (fast travel doesn't count) or an armada.

Also I doubt that teleportation isn't going to be cheap. Also it never happened in the lore, except for the oblivion gates.

This is the only time that something like that happened.

Doesn't matter. The Roman Empire doesn't just invade China.

Or Japan or Taiwan.

Who knows? Your guess that they still have a navy that is able to completly outclass everything else is as good as mine.
They still have their "totally not east india trading company", but who knows how they are holding on.

That's a faulty analogy, because there are no modern nation states in the Elder Scrolls.

I already said enough about local factions, piracy and strategic concern about High Rock not wanting to get sandwiched.

Staying defensive is obviously their only option, yes.
After all, they don't have any capabilities to do anything else.

You're probably right, though. But, again, I don't see any reason why the Empire would pick a fight with them.

America for the American

local border skirmishes have been a thing for a long time

there are options between peace and total war, you know?

there are no americans

americans have no culture besides obesity

Which Empire.

It's really confusing that this war is between two nations you can accurately refer to as "the Empire"

To be honest, it makes me mad that normalfags think Ulfric is le nazi because of his beliefts.
The empire is a clusterful of assholes and cowards that surrendered when they had a perfect chance of winning.

He says using at least three things designed by Americans.

Thalmor are the Thalmor
Empire is the Cyrodils.

Well he's right though.

Americans have a bootleg version of the puritan culture with a little bit of sodomite here and there.
It's nothing particulary theirs.

This is how you sound.

You could say the same about all Europeans as almost all of their cultures are derived from the Romans.

Yup. You are descendent from the puritan rejects that fled from Europe, because of their batshit insane christian beliefs and you guys founded a nation.

You are the only western christian nation that snips the foreskin. You are the fattest white nation on the planet and you have biggest amount of idiots on both the left and the right political spectrum.

You are famous for creationism, third-wave feminism, sjw, puritan christians, racism and anti-racist racism.

You are a cancer.

fuck off fatty

Well, to be completely honest Europe was fucking sodom at the time; I can't really blame them.

Britain has no culture. All their culture is stolen from the Muslims.

And where are you from my anti-American user?

I'm not even American you cheese sniffing muslim submitter.

fuck off, there is nothing wrong with being gay

I don't think our sexuality changed much through the years and suddenly people become more or less gay.

Germany and you my cute user? :3

Yeah? W-well uhhh …. our female defense minister r-recently didn't wear a v-veil on her visit to Saudi Arabia!

A-and the bavarian spliner party of merkel's party demands an upper limit of 200,000 refugees max pro y-year.

W-we are m-making progress.

Cultures, have three parts. They work kind of like languages (mostly because culture is built around language): You have the base (in the case of english the anglo-saxon culture and speech), the substract (vulgar latin) and the superstrate (scaninavian, french and arab in that order).
What americans have is just puritan culture, which is a derivation from several european cultures.
It doesn't mean the Americans don't have a culture, as everyone can differenciate an american from say a mexican. It's just that (and this is true in most american countries with the exception of Argentina and Mexico because of some really complex bullshit with the italians and aztects respectively) they don't have a culture of their own.

Mate, there is a difference between being gay like the greeks or the romans were and being a flamboyant fucking sadomasochistic faggots like the french were.

And yet we still own you.

I am from the US my German friend. Please do not think that New York and California is how our whole country is. Really most of it is quite nice as long as you stay away from large cities.

Not really, to be honest.

Yeah the Romans were less open about it, and being fucked in the ass specifically was looked down upon, for some reason, but being gay or a crossdresser or worse was pretty common and accepted.

Even Julius Ceaser himself had gay relations, he was accused on being the bottom by his political opponents as a result.

Rome and Greece are the last places you wanna use as examples of being not super gay.

No, it's because normal people can tell the difference between fantasy and reality. It's fun to role-play as something you aren't or in a world you wouldn't actually want to live in. For example I'd rather not have my house burned down by dragons every other day, but it's still fun to play fantasy games.

Well, you can't really see Roman sexuality with current day standards.
Roman views of sexuality were a lot different from what we see now. While as right now we see the act of fucking as a mere recreational activity or for procreation purposes; in ancient Rome it was seen as a testament of your own social status and political power.
For a Roman slave, for example being fucked in the ass by a Roman general was seen as less "gay" than as a citizen eating out a woman.

Also cross dressing was frown upon for a completely different reason.
Have you ever seen in their artwork how everyone dressed up? That's a military tunic, in all cases and it was also one of the reasons why the Romans didn't like to wear pants. Roman (empire era) citizens frowned upon complex and fancy clothing, as they would leave them completely useless in the case the barbarians suddenly attacked. So men that wore woman's clothing were seen pretty much as the society sees NEETs.

Only that more violently

thanks for stationing soliders here who are paid and consume our products

they are a great boon to local economies

thanks fam, even the Greens stopped protesting against them once they saw the effect they had on towns when they left

if you want, station all your troops here

do you mean that the french were supposedly "surrender monkeys" in ww2?

I gotta say, I am pretty jelly about all the untapped wilderness you have there

Germany is pretty much 100% urbanized. Only place I can think of that would be sutiable for camping is the Schwarzwald.

Uh, by not being involved? Most civil wars and 'Revolutions' do not result in a very high number of deaths of the population, especially since unlike in battles between nations there really isn't any good reason whatsoever to attack non-military targets. They also aren't fought with purely military objectives in mind.

Bullshit, they literally have military bases and outposts inside the Empire and bitch them out on numerous occasions.

But they already do that, they literally kill people for talking about Talos. It is specifically the non-empire towns and cities that have anyone who even knows much about Talos.

That depends. Why would anyone want the desolate (And incredibly small, mind you) territory of Skyrim? The local population has already proven itself to be capable of massive civil war on its own rulers, there is snow everywhere, the Emperor himself literally got murdered in their port, The fortresses lying about are hardly usable and incredibly expensive to man, the local bandits are enough to freeze entire (Empire-aligned) cities into inaction and fear, and to top it all of there are fucking dragons throughout the country. Why would anyone want that desolate little hell hole? Any invaders would have to genocide the population at the very least, just to safely occupy the land, and then they'd have to colonize it themselves, which would be next to impossible, all for so little gain and value that they'd really be better off signing a new treaty. Even then, the Thalmor are going to need to get their war machine revved up to even try an invasion, the Nords would have more than enough time to make their own country practically un-takeable. And keep in mind, if the Thalmor are weakened, then there is a high chance of them getting stabbed in the back by any neighbors, such as the empire. From there, Skyrim (The Nation) has so many possible options as to how they'll deal with their own geopolitical situation that they're practically invulnerable.
TL;DR don't fuck with the north, faggot.

People fear the Thalmor a lot, but what most people forget to mention or aren't aware of is that Thalmor has a drained military. Emperor didn't sign the concordat because Thalmor had a superrior army. He did so because they had lots of spies in the empire which would mean sabotage and a prolonged conflict due to leaking information.
This isn't a problem in the new Skyrim. And remember, Hammerfell is successfully independent from Empire for a century now, yet Aldmeri Dominion hasn't done anything to them. Empire wrecked their armies and they can only bide their time until they get stronger while they supress the literal creator of Mundus and growth in general among humans.

Banning Talos worship, due to how TES world works, is worse than a complete genocide and leads towards the destruction of what we basically consider the world. This act is unforgivable. We have no real world analogy for it. A nuclear holocaust is nowhere nearly as bad. "B-but you can worship behind their backs" isn't a justification either.
Add to it that the "emperor" has no dragon blood and you also have an empire with no legitimacy. The institution must go. And remember - Talos descended from Skyrim to become a Cyrodiilic emperor when Cyrodiil was in shambles.

sage

you think your sage has power over me?

it's because they were trying to represent the nords as ignorant and mean (albeit failing because their goal was logically and morally sound)

Holy moly!

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Fable 3 lets you play as a pretender that over throws the king. Course it's Fable so your duties come down to "Should I enslave children or turn the factory into an orphanage/school because the guy who owns it is a meenie pants?" This is an actual choice.

Oh yeah that's right, shame these games are few and far between

The problem is that the title itself means little, and if all you get is the title then it feels fake and contrived.

For it to actually be good and meaningful you'd need some grand strat elements, which adds a ton of extra shit the game needs to be able to do.

Charlemagne let the jews into Europe.

I'm talking about role-play, not grand strat. In DA:O you can be a noble human and then become king/queen. Then onto the DLC you can be both queen/king and leader of Gray Wardens and build up their castle and have both courtly intrigue and decisions on your vassals. More of that is exactly what I'm looking for and is a good middle ground

The fact the game has a nationalistic group that's not made to be purposefully autistic is surprising, stop shit posting user.

But none of that shit reflects actually running a nation or area, which is what being a king or other ruler figure would actually entail. So what you're talking about, just feels silly, because the game is saying you are a ruler but the gameplay does not reflect it.

A game letting you become a monarch would exactly be grand strat.

Then I am not looking for what you describe

High elves used to be the Aryans of TES until casual skyshit pounded the idea of nords into every casual's head.

and now they are jews

They were, the stormfags are puppets of the Thalmor used to fracture and destroy the Empire from within, Ulfric is goy of the year.
The Stormclocks are the real antagonists.

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Maybe a third party is necessary to bring all to their knees.

CHIM and FusRoDah tagteam

Part of the reason why every single nord says it (even if the civil war is done and the imperials won and even if the nord is for the imperials) is due to laziness on Bethesda's part.

I wonder what the average white teenager in the UK thinks of shit like that.

Duh. Obviously it wasn't CURRENT YEAR in 2011

Aren't the Stormcloaks racist though?

Racism is a meaningless buzzword.

no, it is flung around as such

No, racism isn't real. What's real is assholes.

A man doesn't want muslims in his city. That's not racism, it's rationality - a lot of muslims are extremists. There's a logic, so it's not just douchery.

A man doesn't want his daughter to date nigs. That's also logic, since we know they kill a lot of women and that mixed kids are dumber and uglier. Also logic.

Now a man doesn't want to sell a guy who does the same work as a white, just as solidly, because of his skin color. That's just being a douchebag.

Thus, racism isn't real, QED.

pay a guy, not sell*

kek

Yep.

Goyim, yes! You just D&C each other, you don't even need jewish shills!

No, it's called looking after your own interests, if you do business with a nigger when you could have done business with a fellow white, then you are helping another race instead of your own.

Also, race isn't skin colour, there are jews and some asians with white skin, but they are not part of the "white" race (meaning ethnic Europeans).

Yes, Newfags to ElderScrolls will pick StormCloaks, Skyrim Veterans will pick Imperial.

But EldersScrolls veterans will pick Stormclocks.

i understand looking down on other races and kind of understand enslaving people, and i made the connection myself a while ago because they lived in ghettos in Windhelm, but I don't recall anything about Jews worshiping demigods or really living in tribes.

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They were able to sweep them in. In 2011 these views were less acceptable than they were today but lefties were also less in full force as the Overton window was narrower.

You're implying too hard.

You fags are right wing equivalent of this.

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this user gets it!

Thank god the game isn't completely VR focussed.

if skyrim's imperial legion was more like fallout nv's legion i'd actually maybe consider them.

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Tullius is pretty redpilled tbh. He is wary of the Thalmor by thee end, eventually, and knows Ulfric is a cunt.

Canon story should be:

Kinda makes sense. Emperor needs to be a Dragonborn.

Sounds like a fine idea

hi Holla Forums

sup?

B-but I have brought peace, freedom, justice and security to my new Empire!

Fuck. I missed a golden chance here.

I like it

All of this discussions is pretty funny, seeing so many people try to explain why the Thalmor can be defeated.

But Kirkbride already confirmed that they win in the end, they wipe out humanity, and that at this point in the ES timeline we're seeing the extinction of humanity. The Thalmor aren't weakened by the war, they're the single most dangerous force to ever traipse across Tamriel. Humanity is D-O-N-E FUCKED at this point, and there's literally nothing they can do about it.

Wew. That picture made me realize just how much of a babe Aela is. Makes me want to make a barbarian on Skyrim so that I can conquer her. Is she better than the woman I always marry? Pic related.

Kirkbride says a lot of stuff but that doesn't make it canon.
The Thalmor are strong yes, but humans have already whiped out elven races before, and it's not like the Thalmor have the support of the other elven nations if it were to come to Tamriel-wide war. If the Thalmor stood on their own against even just the human nations united they'd be fucked, let alone with support from Bosmer/Khajiit/Dunmer.

Kek gtfo TES newfag

Okay, Bosmer/Dunmer/Orsimer then. The Thalmor cream their pants over a deity who literally doesn't do shit. Akatosh has intervened directly for the sake of the Imperials, the Dunmer and Orsimer have the support of powerful Daedra, who can actually influence the tide of battle and would have a vested interest in doing so. The Bosmer have their Wild Hunt. What do the Thalmor have besides a faggy elf god and weakness to magic?

Edgy robes?

It's called an allegory. Analogy is consistent in the context, as North is for the Nords as knife-ear-island is for the knife ears.

Allegory is drawing parallels between fantasy and reality, as developed countries are developed for a reason, and they are nothing like the slum Azeroth is, and so on.

Every woman in Skyrim is better than that vamp whore, but that isn't saying much.

I thought it was obvious. Did people really think this was subtle?

How so? Marxists talk shit about capitalisn, while supporting it, but nazis simply hate Jews, and avoid them. No correlation, here, you fucking pinko.

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Nazis hated the International Jew, that was in both Capitalist and Communist systems, not your average kike(as long he wasnt part of the problem).
Over 150K jews got in arms to fight for Hitler and some were part of SS.
Jews hates everybody, wanting to slave all

Finland also lost that war, you fucking retard.

They just hated that one Jew.

Globalists get out. Hammerfell was able to beat the Thalmor back all by themselves. The Emperor is nothing more than puppet or worse, a coward.

found the fujoshit

You know, considering that regardless of who you choose both factions will turn their attention to the Elves and get ready for round 2 in the war, you could say Bethesda is the ones that memed Trump into the presidency.

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Is there any proof that Zenimax or Bethesda are owned by jews?

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Yes the world is trying to cope with synchronisation. If we remained anonymous we wouldn't have this issue.

People are trying to paint a portrait of themselves that places like facebook promotes, then when something attacks the image they have of themselves they hiss violently.
Then you add PC to this mess..

This is our problem. Things got weird when social media went personalized back in 08.
They allowed people to moderate who they saw and why. In the past we had no such ability. You got only anonymous, or you lived in reality.

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If Skyrim is Europe, then who are the Thalmor, the shadowy but powerful force present, in uneasy balance with the multi-culti imperials, at war with Stormcloaks, however being implied that the Thalmor are supporting Stormcloaks so that they can get an excuse to annex Skyrim at full force?

Around the kike slav
Watch the cash you have

FUCKING RUSSIAN KIKES, STOP HACKING MY WALLET REEEEEEEEEEEEE

The large amount of negros in France is a result of policies that encourage/fast track citizenship for former colonial nations, north africa in this case They had problem with negro riots decades ago at this point, long before the current "refugee crisis" and EU quotas. Same with UK and indians.

that's one handsome Jew

Just because we have Puritan roots doesn't mean we're really Puritan in the slightest, you know. Europoors have feudal roots, does that mean modern Europe is still a feudalistic society? Perhaps there are traces left of that period, but really it's long and gone, just like puritanism in the USA. Also remember that the Chesapeake and Southern colonies weren't Puritan… like, at all. That was just a thing in New England. But "American is a Puritan society" is a nice meme, though.

And American society started going in it's own direction about 270 years ago, even before the revolution, so it's kind of bullshit to say "Americans have no culture :^)". We have distinct linguistic dialects and slang, values systems, institutions, a rich history (greatest empire in history, whether you like it or not) and a fuckton of feats under our belt, such as interchangeable parts, skyscrapers, nuclear technology (notably the atomic bomb), the moon landing and very ironically the internet, you stupid fuck. The internet is a part of American culture, just like the kimono is a part of Japanese culture or cathedrals are a part of western Christian culture. It's our invention and it's very important to our society, and just because you dipshits were too stupid to invent it yourself and make use of it as well doesn't make it any less ours. quit appropriating our culture ;_;

Actually so does Canada and Australia, but nice meme though. Also a reminder that Europeans did this too up until quite recently. And also another reminder that the amount of boys circumcised per year is plummeting in the USA.
And you're just a stupid Europoor who's ass blasted that your day in the sun is over and you're never going to be significant again because you're no longer economically viable and your cultures are even more fucked than ours. Stay mad.

And finally, remember my fellow Americans to-

M A G A
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Yes.

2012 was like 2007 2: Electric Boogaloo.

My nigga
Normally I'd call a post like this autistic but nothing is better than watching europoors blown the fuck out
Maybe one day I'll use a VPN that's based in the US without fear

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this is what mc donalds actually believes

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I felt like shit was only started to go down the drain in 2014.

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FUCK YOU PUTIN! WHAT DO YOU HAVE AGAINST MINORITIES IN SPACE?! I KNOW YOU ARE A SAINTS ROW FAN, THIS IS BULLSHIT!

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To know he was crossposting youd have to be crossposting.
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