It was easy for Putin to get Donald Trump in the White House – his real challenge will be shunting Corbyn into No 10

It was easy for Putin to get Donald Trump in the White House – his real challenge will be shunting Corbyn into No 10

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I assume this is based on the fact that Corbyn is Eurosceptic and anti-Trident. But who cares?

The funny thing is I doubt Corbyn even has love for Putin. This is fucking ridiculous.

I WANT TO BELIEVE

BASED PUTIN

Does this level of red baiting in the liberal media mean we're a threat again or that war with russia is coming?

A war with Russia is very unlikely. For all Putin's bluster Russia wouldn't last long.

The dems are mostly buttmad about that, the republicans are now in presidency.
War won't be coming.
It'd hurt our free trade with russia.
Ideally, if you want war, you want to fight it in a place where you can actually aquire something from it. Like an isolationist small country sitting on a goldmine of some kind (like oil)

wtf I love Putin now

The threat of a threat of war is coming aka lets keep justifying these defense contracts familam.

Remember that Obama spoke of Communists in the same sentence as ISIS terrorists.

Any fellow British Holla Forums comrades want to join Labour, purge Blairites and make it /our party/?

Way ahead of you.

Forgot to turn off flag

DEVILISH

How many socialists (genuine ones) and Marxists are in the labour membership?

Can we just mail the electorial college voters to be like
Lol at all this shit
Don't vote for him

I'm in it, but apparently the shit is going down in Momentum, which is reaching critical mass.

Not sure what to make of it, the media are shouting TROTS ARE BREAKING IT - but they've done this since day one.

that flag is so ugly

a true socialist UK would do away with liberal scotland and allow ireland to reunify anyway, so you may as well get rid of the blue and the red st paddy's saltire

leaving just a st george's cross on a white field, the classic england flag

it would be much easier on the eyes to stick the star in one of the corners

youtu.be/NnBjvBS8w9s?t=40m50s

REEE STOP FORGETTING ABOUT US

To be honest Stop the War fags like Corbyn do apologise for Russia a lot. I wish he would stop that.

NEVER EVER

I've seen the show Skins… All of Wales must be gulag'd

proofs of concept

it's ms paint doodling but you get the point

England and Wales are reactionary tier compared to Scotland.

wit?

t. Jock

before the SNP won their landslide in the 2015 GE, scotland had been a lib dem safehaven for decades

Wales is by far the most proletarian of the UK/Irish countries. Never developed its own bourgeoisie

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Trotskyist entryism has expanded massively since the rise of Comrade Corbo.

i rest my case

as in, its you ignorant Roman dominated cunts that keep voting for the Tories so just why the fuck are Scotland the Liberals you fucking Essexs slag

Closer to a decade tbh. They've always held a lot of smaller Labour seats.

You mean they were a junior partner in a Lib-Lab coalition… Which is better than the Con-Lab you cunts gave us

con-lib

Anyone got that medium post about the Momentum meeting.

*ConDem

https:[email protected]/* *//momentum-vs-inertia-e525c8f9e217#.rsioj69zd

It's incredible how they keep underestimating Corbyn.

It reminds me of the time, when he won Labour leadership on the first round against 3 blairites. Nobody thought he would make it.

I wouldn't mind if Putin put Wagenknecht into Kanzleramt though, although I think he favours AfD.

everytime

Why is the British left so bizarre and divided?

https:[email protected]/* *//momentum-openly-including-the-far-left-66f4ee11368f

https:[email protected]/* */[email protected]/* */ctive-1d368893e33e

https:[email protected]/* *//meeting-momentum-a9e6005f1a3a

https:[email protected]/* *//momentum-national-committee-meeting-the-fall-out-bb902a8aae9

Which one?

ever since thatcher it's been absolutely cucked - britain has more or less turned into a little america, culturally

Money in politics

Seems to exist solely to complain about racism within Labour, but I guess that's what you get when you make a BAME post.

So, is Momentum going to implode, or should we join and give the Trots a kicking? Do we join and help the Trots? Do we just sit back and let everything set on fire because let's face it the British public are going to vote for Lord Barremtroupth XI in 2020 because they're a bunch of cucks.

Yes but they tend to be old (quiet and afraid to talk unless I kick up a fuss) there's one other guy my age who seems familiar with theory but hides his power level and he portrays himself as a mild mannered dem-soc, he's also a coop party member but I had to ask him about that. He's an elected councillor in case you're wondering.

Our local party chair jokingly calls me a trot, even though he was an ex-green party member and I sit on our executive committee (I can veto and approve of who we put forward as candidates in our elections) even though I rant incoherently about socialism, I even proposed a motion (that failed) to say we should show solidarity with the Kurds as they were a beacon of socialist values surrounded by imperialists and savage reactionaries (it was deemed too political). Oh and I ran for councillor myself and narrowly lost because the Green Party split the vote.

There's another guy a bit younger than us, but he's a bloody liberal, never talks about class, dresses like a hipster in his pretentious brown/beige outfit and was in charge our IN campaign during the EU referendum which half of us thankfully ignored. Our chair tried to guilt trip us by saying "we need to take the smooth with the rough" and I retorted "like Iraq and student tuition fees?!"

We already made an impact, the NEC is now full of pro-Corbyn members and if you join, you can help fund our shitty leaflets, ours aren't even glossy in our area because we hardly have any funds.

What can I, a Labour party member who hates liberals, do?

It looks like my local branch of Momentum has already crashed with no survivors.

And does anyone else suspect that BTL is jam packed full of corporate shills?

It's not just the left. Ever seen PMQs? It's just how we do politics

I'm in it now but I'll be quitting soon, they can't even oppose what the Saudis are doing to yeman so what's the point

I am British, just wondering how we got to this point

The right doesn't have this problem. There's just UKIP and the Tories

Help the trots obviously. Trots aren't trying to "take over" in the strongman dictator sense. They just want to win people over by having a fair platform to air their views (which is basically just sensible marxism). The current media bias against trots is ludicrous. Give people a platform for free speech and let their ideas succeed or die democratically.

Spoken like a true trot

The trots in question are the AWL who are massive Zionists and war apologists and an all round creepy cult though, and their argument is to get rid of voting and democratic mechanisms

Westminster was a mistake

And how exactly do we purge blairites? I'm a trot who's joined labour but the whole party machinery is so undemocratic I can't see how we can change anything

This tbh, why do the Trots love Israel, the EU, and whatever other stupid shit they're currently supporting?

Kneejerk anti-Soviet/Russia sentiment and a love of entryism

I never joined momentum, I get their emails and I wasn't aware of their presence in my area.

Just bloody get your membership, turn up and have your say. Agitate and educate them.

A lot of them are low income workers with the right intentions but with superficial understanding of economics and politics, only knowing the "Tories are scum".

You need to show them the way, that it's not about dole money and identity politics. I literally badmouth that kind of shit when someone brings up their little pet issues, I have without repercussion disparaged things multiple times as petit bourgeois liberal Guardian reader frivolous fluff and elevate class at the same time.

It's what I did, you'll also be able to critique and amend their literature once you get into their local policy making committees and they've even appropriated some of my language.

The trots in question are actually many. I'm in the socialist party for example. I don't like the AWL and obviously i wouldn't vote for getting rid of democratic mechanisms or war. No harm in letting them try to convince people of their arguments though. What is it you fear, open debate or the will of the masses?

The problem isn't blarites, labour supported the first world war, the beloved 45 government invaded malaya and korea, the wilson governments supported apartheid and sent troops to ireland, the problem is the labour party itself, it can never be a vehicle for radical politics

Well they don't try to convince people that's the point, they're stopping momentum from becoming democratic and bullying out anyone who disagrees with them.


I'm not a liberal, parties need to be unified and strong and there's no room for people who oppose the basic values of the organisation as the AWL do.

I'm a Trot. I voted Brexit and oppose the occupation in palestine. Don't tar us all with the same brush.

There seems to be a lot of ad hominem when it comes to trots, but ultimately Trotskyism is not a group of people but a set of ideas. Let us make our arguments and if they are convincing then they are correct. If they don't win people over what is the harm?

SOON LADS

UGGO FLAG

What basic values of the Labour Party do the AWL oppose? Don't say democratic because the labour party has not been democratic for decades

Labour Party at least serves a function, AWL seems like a bunch of autistic circlejerkers.

What's the point of supporting a slick entryist, then obsessing over policy they can't enforce because they're a movement and not a party, then finding out the policy you support is the exact same as the current status quo?

Sounds like fucking trash to me.

I was talking about momentum not labour itself (i think the AWL are banned from that already) momentum is supposed to be there to push the corbynist platform, that platform is pro Palestinian, anti imperialist and parliamentarian, so a group of fanatical zionist, war loving revolutionaries shouldn't really be there.

For the labour party as a whole Trotsky himself hated them for coming from technocratic or religous ideas of socialism rather than marxism and called for a new workers party

Wait, what the fuck? Weren't they saying that Putin was behing UKIP?

It's just yet another attempt to trash talk Corbyn at any opportunity. Remember, this sick Islamofascist communist DANCED ON THE GRAVES OF VETERANS!!!

They're liberals so "muh horseshoe"

Jeremy Corbyn, the Red Flame Dancing on the Graves of Tories and Veterans

t. Ralph Miliband

lel

Have we started the fire?

The msm is so globalist and Brexit salty it took a break from laughing st Jezza to pretend they think he's doing better, come election time they wil be mocking him into inelectabillity

Liberal media bashing our Jez again

independent.co.uk/voices/pmqs-what-happened-jeremy-corbyn-theresa-may-labour-conservative-government-social-care-a7474291.html

bbc.co.uk/news/business-38325850

Look at this fucking shit. Makes my blood boil.

What is it going to take for people to wake up?

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Barely, they just stopped covering PMQ's all together. Now they're running with the whole "CORBYN CONFIRMED SINN FEIN TERRORIST!!!!" nonsense this entire week.

Seriously, the media nonsense against Corbyn is crazy and this week once again proves that the English see themselves as the rightful imperial overlords of Ireland and Scotland that was so obvious during the Referendum and Trident debates.

The Independent and Guardian are viciously anti-Corbyn.

Ironically, the Mirror was the only outlet that came out of the media bias studies as actually being balanced on Corbyn.

It fucking amazes me that nobody in the media fucking reports on shit like this, the Tories laughing at Corbyn fielding questions from poor fucking plebs who have had their lives ruined and the Tories just mock the person directly.

It shows how insanely bias the media actually is. Imagine if Corbyn and co, laughed when May read about some poor single monther who barely could feed her kid, it would be nonstop media cycle 24/7 for weeks on end, yet the Tories LITERALLY do this and it doesn't get a peep.

i miss gysi ;_;