How come critics (rightfully) tore into this game for being a bland shallow "game" trying harder to act like a movie...

How come critics (rightfully) tore into this game for being a bland shallow "game" trying harder to act like a movie than have good gameplay while at the same time praising Uncharted and The Last of Us which are just as bad for the exact same reasons?

Because they didn't give reviewers enough money to say good things.

It's like the IGN review of pokemon that complained about too much water. Nintendo knows Pokemon sells no matter what and obviously skimped on bribing reviewers.

Reviewers were paid heavily to shill Uncharted and The Last of Us.

For one, TLOU has a little more gameplay than The Order, on the other hand TLOU is "progressive" and "engaging" (and by the later I mean, they kill a child in the first 5 minutes to make you feel something), and lastly, it was impossible to defend The Order.

First of all, because The Order is actually a bad game. It's perfectly functional as a third person shooter, but it greatly misses out on the thematics it could have used for the enemies, the weapons, the factions, the story, etc. You don't get to put a lot of story in your game but use it for fuck all and in the end still claim it was all about the story.

Werewolves end up being generic enemies that show up once or so, Vampires never see a good combat or anything interesting done with them despite them being the Illuminati of that world. The main character and his partners are immortal because they drink some special drink but does that ever tie in the plot at all? Nope. Nikola Tesla shows up, what does he give you? A railgun or something equally stupid.
Saying that it was wasted potential is quite the euphmism.

Now compare it with TLOU and Uncharted.
While both of those games are shit in their own way, TLOU features some crafting and the whole "escorting" part of gameplay as well as functional stealth segments, plus it utilizes all of it's plot elements for the gameplay as well.
Uncharted on the other hand has very shallow gameplay but at least it tries to follow the story accurately instead of squandering it and doing nothing with it.

There's more shit like the graphics that were incredibly hyped and in the end ended up being nothing like expected while TLOU and Uncharted didn't see that problem, there's the fact that TLOU and Uncharted came for the PS3 that had plenty of games and in the case of Uncharted, it's a long series with many fans.

But quite simply, The Order promised a lot, did nothing with it and nobody was interested in defending it, while TLOU and Uncharted actually give you everything they promise, no matter how shallow they actually are and there's a lot of people interested in defending those two.

Those same critics praised Skyrim as the best game ever while shitting on Fallout 4 which is literally better in every single aspect. Think about it, better visuals, more than 4 voice actors, better quests, better companions, better combat, more roleplaying options, better story… Those things are still pretty avarage but they are sure as fuck better than skyrim

Yes
No (yes)
Angry yes
Tell me later
Nuke boston or kill your son.

Spoilers are not critique.

When "angry yes" is a spoiler, the writer has failed.

Uncharted and The Last of Us were bad to mediocre movies where The Order was just downright terrible.

Order was a 6 hour game featuring a cast of unlikeable cunts that ended on a cutscene setting up a sequel

1. Not enough money received
2. Not progressive enough
3. This movie had no fanbase, believe it or not, the reviewers consider the size of the fanbase when reviewing and what they mostly check how they talk bad about a game when the fanbase is as autistic as the metal gear fanbase.
4. The developer didn't have sex with the reviewers.
5. Movie was still too hard to play through.

Because out of the trio, The Order was much worse. When pic related is what the strategy guide looks like for your game, it's irredeemable. Indigo Prophecy has more going on than The Order for fucks sake.


The only thing you got right are the visuals, voice actors, and companions. Dead wrong on everything else.

No… Not really. It's the same thing mostly. They are an improvement, but not a significant one.

You do know they hired the guy that did Garrus voice from ME and re-used him for pretty much almost everyone, right?

They are all either fetch quests, go talk with X quests or kill X quests. It's not that Skyrim was much better with the Draugr-calypse, but there was some variety there at least with the Daedra and in some secondary quests.

You mean another terrible approach at romance whose only redeeming factor is how hilarious it is?
Or do you mean how horribly written some of the companion quests and your relationship with them is, to the point it's actually detrimental to the game?
Or maybe you are trying to compare a feature that always featured in a series of games (Fallout) that never was really present on the same level in the other (Elder Scrolls)?

You shoot guns or swing weapons. That's fucking it. Skyrim had magic, shields and Shouts at least.

You can pick your gender and that's it. No extra races, no actual alignment options, no secondary factions like the Guilds to join too. Just because instead of two factions in conflict with one another, you have 4 or so, it doesn't mean it's better, at least the Stormcloaks and Imperials made sense.

Fuck, turns out this is just a troll post and I already wrote all that shit. Oh well.
For the record, the very faction that is composed of transhumanists and makes Synths for a living is the one treating them the worst. And Father contraficts everything the Institute and himself represent and stand for with Young Shawn.

Compare that with the story about a Dragon that came to eat the world, that you fight in Valhala Sovengarde.

This actually makes a fuckton of sense when I think about some of the garbage that comes out (Life is Strange, every fucking thing David Cage does).

Also,
Don't you mean "shills"?

That's honestly depressing to put in a strategy guide. They really could have made an interesting enough game but they really waste the setting and visuals on a bland TPS that wants to be a movie. Same thing with Uncharted 4.

what a world we live in

Uncharted is an old franchise, and TLOU at least tried to do gameplay.
Also, only Order ended with Gunshot Fade to Black.

Do girls actually do this now?

no user that is a drawing please get off the internet people are starting to worry

...

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Holla Forums was right the world is doomed and nothing matters

Is this surprising to you?

user there are immensely bigger fish to fry than women taking semi-nude selfies.

We're at it's heart, user. The world is ours to shape.

Because those at least remembered they were games at the end of the day.

And whatever you think of the writing, The Order was just pretentious shit while Uncharted and TLoU can at least did shit with their much larger scale settings gameplay wise.


You missed having an inferior boring ass postapocalyptic world that was already done better in previous games.

I hope you're not unintelligently saying 2D is the reason.

Quit being a gaylord, what does random chicks taking selfies to capitalize on a meme have to do with the world ending?

No.

She's taking a nude but covering her delicate flower . Why the fuck would you do that.

EITHER TAKE THE DAMN PIC AND DON'T COVER , OR DONT MAKE NUDES AT ALL

IT LITERALLY MAKES NO SENSE

Dude, just clam down. You need to go berry you're thicc.

Because some people do not look good naked, and thus need other people's imaginations to do the hard work of dispensing boners.

Japanese version censored this scene

They didn't tear into The Order. That's the problem, they don't tear into anything unless it's something with no marketing and no big publisher behind it.

Only reason they kind of had a go at cinematic 24fps is because it wasn't an established franchise with a large fanbase.

Everything matters. That's why it's so vital to fight.

Last time video-game media outlets tore into anything it was zoequinns sore vag.

...

The Order 1866 was rather exceptionally SHORT for a full priced game.

Even in this Zionist industry it was shameful.

But I find the discussion rather academic, theyre both not worth the asking price. Though Uncharted can be a good bargain bin find.

What would you rather fap to:
A woman in a burka, a dress or a bikini?
For those girls, it's either that or bikinis, that's probably the closest you'll get from a nude photo of those girls, out of their own will, so be grateful. Keep in mind that those photos are often posted publicly, there's no real nudity in there.

Dress

i come into a thread to shit on a horrible game and I am greeted with whores

NOTHING BUT WHORES

Interesting post.

People often forget that "journalism" is just entertainment. Journalists have an audience to consider. When you write for Stormfront you're not going to write about how nice Jews are.

Everything on the web is click bait.

Learned behavior or design?

how about hijab and nothing else?

Looks more like a nun.

because The Last of Us was truly "The Citizen Kane of Videogames™"

I'll have to watch that film again with this open on the other screen.

Get that shit out of here.

...

This is no longer coincidence, I've seen hijab porn posted with suspicious frequency. I'm on to you kike/muhammad.

is this the start of a new fetish?

I WANT to see the neck, brownanon.

I only fap to psycological torture.

This shit has to be purged.

have you even taken a single step outside your commie block apartment complex past the decade

shigdy gigidy

Great, now I have to defend Sony exclusives. I'd rather be four knuckles deep in my grandmother.

The Order was NOTHING like Uncharted or TLOU. The game had a really good concept when it was revealed, but as more and more news about it and its developers came out, it became increasingly apparent that the devs did not actually want to make a game. They wanted to forego mechanics for cinematic storytelling, and they said this themselves. This was the huge red light that started killing off any interest in this piece of shit.

So then it actually comes out, and what do you know, it's a boring piece of shit. Sure, the game is beautiful, I admit, but it's got nothing else to it. Everything is grey is dull. Cutscenes every 10 fucking seconds interrupt the bare minimum gameplay which consists of walking around, reading things of no importance to the story, maybe running around, and engaging in terrible 3rd person shooting.

Oh, did you come here for the Werewolves? Too fucking bad, the fight with those are boring as shit too. I mean, did you even see that werewolf AI? You hit it once, it runs away, it comes back out, you hit it again, it runs away, it comes back out, on and on and fucking on. The fucking werewolves did not feel like a threat and they barely even showed up in the barebones gameplay.

The story? Good concept, poorly executed. Weapons aren't all that fun to use. Final boss is a QTE that plays exactly the same as the other werewolf boss in the game. Game ends on a cutscene and sequel-begging cliffhanger that it did not deserve. FIVE TO SIX FUCKING HOURS WITH 0 REPLAY VALUE BECAUSE IT ALL PLAYS THE SAME AND THERE'S NO ASS-FUCKING MULTIPLAYER

Say what you will about TLOU, but it actually fucking tried. It involves the player a hell of a lot more than The Order. The multiplayer was surprisingly solid too, I really wasn't expecting that game to have good multiplayer. Uncharted throws you into an Indiana Jones kind of adventure through good locations and setpieces, adds at least some sort of mystery to the plot, and has you solving puzzles or collecting shit when you're not shooting people.

Both of them get the player more involved and invested in what they're doing because they consistently make promises and deliver on them. The Order did fucking none of that, and still had the nerve to ask for a sequel. It was pure, utter, insulting garbage that should only be compared to games like Indigo Prophecy or any other David Cage abomination. Hell, at least those games don't lie to you about what they're trying to be.

no, its different

Stop.

not even close, i'm a pizzapasta potatonigger

...

Post lewd cat.

you could still be a muhammad

Then you've been way too enriched my friend. I can understand hot arabs, but hijabs are a fucking blight upon this earth.

...

pls email [email protected]/* */ if you're a cat named sakamoto and want a cute furret to lick your paws

Yes. That is what I do.. It is a better way.

Protestant detected just kidding i don't give a shit about ireland, north or south

...

pls email [email protected]/* */ if you're a cat named sakamoto and want a cute furret to lick your paws
It's so hard to see the picture BECAUSE OF THE FUCKING WATERMARKS GET THE HELL OUT OF HERE

Holy shit mien sieds

IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A ONE FINGER CHALLENGE, YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG

Fuck off roastie
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

What?
All I heard was constant praise for Bethesda for raising the bar for future RPGs even higher with the immersive story becasue voice acting and the simplyfied but super deep and complex stat system or whatever bullshit they used to describe this pile of shit.

There's not nearly enough of it.

That cliff hanger ending was by far the worst sin the game could have committed. At least have the decency to wipe your own ass after you're done shitting on the players.

This game is bullshit, I hope the NG+ is better.

Because you are retarded and Uncharted and Last of Us do have way, way more gameplay then the order, at least I assume so based on what i've heard of them.

Anyways, there's absolutely nothing wrong with trying to be an interactive movie like what the Order was trying to do, as long as it's actually fun and entertaining.

Asura's Wrath is an example of how to actually do that well.

this is ng+. what do you think privilege is?

That image man, it hurts my feet.

This game sucks. How do I reach the devs? I want to send them an angry email.

Wtf I love hijabs now

I really hate the way the devs behind this piece of shit were such obnoxious faggots about the creation and the development process. Each and every time they would go with the "we want to create a le movie" attitude and implicitly shun the part about gameplay, to the point that I can see the devs groaning at the idea of actually putting some mechanics into it, "ugh, gross, we must add some idiotic gameplay, can't get around that" is what they probably said to themselves constantly.

So the game comes out and what a fucking surprise it's a nothing-game piece of shit full of pretention, generic tumblr-tier steampunk that tries way too fucking hard to be an ebin "cinematic experience", and it makes my head spin that these idiots go about creating games instead of going ahead and doing a full movie if they're going to be such self-absorbed faggots about making fucking movies; and it isn't just them.

TL;DR why the fuck are devs working on games when they are so obsessed with making movies? Do they think making games is some sort of gateway to get noticed by (((hollywood))) or what?

Sorry for not actually answering the question OP, seeing that everybody here already has stated what I personally think of the matter, I just wanted to comment on this weird misunderstanding or outright contempt current devs feel about truly engaging game mechanics and wanting to suplement everything with MUH CINEMATICS

Part of the lowering of standards is having something makes everything look good in comparison. Bioshock has always been a shit series. It was just that BS:I broke new ground in the sense that now there is more room to lower the bar further down.

Not even Hollywood wants them. And considering what drivel Hollywood has been shitting out this past decade that should tell you something.

you like nuns, i gotcha bro ;)

dislike publications

not even mad

Art is about expression and making an Art Video game is cancer for the following reasons:
1) Too much priority to accessibility
2) Too obsessed with pushing what they can get away calling a video game
3) Too obsessed with telling their story
4) Too focused on spreading the right message

It's funny that everything the indy clique so self-consiously tries and fails to achieve, nip weebs effortlessly succeed at.


You forgot the key failing: They forget that the primary "art" in videogames isn't what can be ported from older media, but the unique art of programmed interactive design.

Player freedom is anathema to them on a fundamental level

I thought seinen was just adult themed, period. What's josei stuff like then?

I'd fuck that deer

Fuckloads of age gap, I hope.

Asura's Wrath really doesn't fit into either the game oir VN group though.

It's the same as whatever you want to call the order, or the telltale games, or life is strange. It's just actually enteraining, unlike most of those.

...

Sage the Sloth

But this is the same for Uncharted

The Sega CD is a mixed bag. Information on how much (if it did) financial damage is limited, but the system did sell about 2.5 million units which is the most for a console addon ever. It even outsold all other CD addons combined. It also has a very good library for an console addon, I'd almost cautiously say it's the best, but I'm willing to admit the TG16CD has a great library too.

I don't think you've even played the game. And if you have you've missed a lot and not listened to anything

Josei is lots and lots of rape

Anybody got the webm of RedLetterMedia talking about how the game makes you kill dozens of innocent men immediately after the protagonist says "I will not harm innocent men?"

I guess a guy can do this too but with a middle finger up.

I don't think ``you've`` played the game. And if you did, I'm sure the the type to go "Oh the game ended, thats a wrap folks."

>Half the plot points are never addressed, Like what happens to the rebellion, what happens to Igraine, where the blackwater really comes from, and what will happen to Lord Hastings or even if the Lord Chancellor knows he is a vampire.

Okay well, I refresh page for capcha and it fucks everything up.

Pick one and only one.

...

are you suggesting the last of us is a worse or equally as good/bad as the order

if so than you're pretty dumb boy

yeah it checks out it's a VN then.
The gameplay basically boils down to mashing A. It can hardly be called gameplay.

Cinematic Games are like soup. The broth is the gameplay, and the chunks floating around it are the story, which is what people come for. The gameplay is just supposed to be an enjoyable delivery method for the plot. TLOU and Uncharted have decent broth. But The Order basically added straight water and called it a soup. On top of that, the developers brought everyone's attention to how shit the gameplay was going to be because they basically bragged about not wanting to make video games.

How? I played uncharted 1 and 2 and they are shallow and repetitive.

The Order could've been a good game if it wasn't so scripted. A 4 player-co-op mode in that universe would've been nice too.

Anons who posted before me are right too, it wasn't progressive enough for the gaming press.

...

I'm not not disagreeing it barely counts as a video game, but a visual novel is a specific term that means a specific thing, and those things don't fall under that category.

VN's are just like interactive choose your own adventure things with static drawn art accompnahying each scene, Asura's Wrath/the other things aren't that, even if they also don't have much actual gameplay.

Why does Holla Forums like gooks and gook culture? I don't understand. How can you be pro-white but also like degenerate eastern cartoons? is this some sort of advanced cognitive dissonance?

...

That better have been sarcastic.

I remember that one. eighjsdughadsgjklasjsdhldfkhjasdf right?

Can't believe of all their material there's no videos of that.

i'm gonna bank on the fact that the orders story is just stupid and stuff like TLOU fooled a lot of casual as fuck reviewers into thinking they were actually playing something super deep and heavy

Actually they aren`t, theres just enough variety.
While The Order 1886 is actually more of a graphical achievement than gameplay one. It has a single enemy and terrible boss fights.

Holla Forums is not a hivemind there are many on their who despise "gook culture."

Others have a fascination with Japan, whether its the weebs who float there from other boards or the 1488's who pay some lip service to Nazi Germany's only competent ally.

Maybe they are Asian themselves, there are alot of Asians on Holla Forums. Japanese, Chinese, Indonesian, Malaysian and Korean from some threads I remember.

Either way the anime or "degenerate cartoons" is something the board is split on. I enjoy the classics like Akira and Evangelion but I don't watch alot of the newer cartoons.

gooks need to go away, honestly. The only future that has any merit is one with racial separatism.

Sorry I'm late.

They're not causing any harm where they are being against foreigners or making sexy drawings, shut up.