Microsoft "VR will cause hallucinations which 'blend or alter perceived reality'"

N-No I don't

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Can I hallucinate anime being real? Because that would be awesome.

Bethdrones who scream "muh imerrrrsssion! ;(" will be the first to go, stuck for eternity in Todd's dream.

Monster Musume?

Paprika?

If everything these "researchers" said was true we would have had more advanced VR 20 years ago, alongside jetpacks, flying cars and the cure for cancer.

what a joke

You could try making a Chaika tulpa.

I'm pretty sure you could easily escape this brainwashing by getting OS VR, or the updated version in 2027 and only getting games that are small or ones that have been accepted as non brainwashing.

But regardless I highly doubt something this illegal would go through. And if we were close to it, it would be against the law.

if we elect the right people

Holla Forums is shit in all realities, real or virtual.

It is archived for a reason, but I guess the ones covering the source are bad so it's all okay. Phew, thanks for debunking it all by pointing out the article publisher user.

Going by the worst possible taste first, you mean SAO, right?

You're reading way too much into what is nothing but marketerspeak

As nice as that would be it will bug me to no end if her speaking isn't broken. Also I'm sure if I did do a tulpa I'll mess it up and cause more problems than I already have.

At worst she'll take over your body and you'll become a slave to the new consciousness you've made like those mlp tulpa stories

it doesn't look like anything to me

You could, if that is the types of games you would be getting in 2027. I don't believe it will be, but you never know. They could decide to just use it for fun stuff instead of "educational" brainwashing "games". You never know though, money and power might not interest them and you will get your fun stuff.

We can all rest assured thanks to your shitpost, user. Thank you.

I don't see the appeal in Chaika. What makes her so great?

How sad of a human being do you have to be to you control of yourself to a cartoon horse from a little girls show?

did someone say tulpa

Probably this.

Also, I'm finally interested in VR.

Anita plz.

+Thick eyebrows
+Odd way of speaking
+White gothic dress
+Looks cute while eating
+You can put her face on anything

And it comes in other flavors too!

Dennou Coil.

Though OP makes me think of Lawnmower Man for some reason.

Someone sure did.

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Why brainwash everyone when you can just make more idiots via education (first 4 pics), have a much easier time brainwashing those idiots further (last pic), then have said idiots out-number normal people?

Not saying extreme brainwashing (a dramatic change over a few months) on subliminal visual stimuli is impossible- but it would need to be accompanied with chemical assistance.

When you consider (((they))) would have deep pockets, it's easier to play the long game- not to mention fuel it further with breaking up communities and culture, so they are driven further into entertainment to drive away sorrow or a lack of belonging or accomplishment with life.
Said entertainment of course, providing a drip feed of positive emotion, while encouraging the idea to mock certain values.

The worse threat of VR is eye damage, recording what you did in a virtual space (and doctoring it to make it worse), and people shutting off from the world further.

I think the guy in the last pic underestimates how well The Daily Show established the formula. Yes, Oliver has improved on it to some extent, but he also has the benefit of an audience that has largely grown up already conditioned, Stewart not nearly so much.

So in other words, this is going to become real?

vimeo.com/166807261

What the hell makes tulpas so strong? How do you "experience" shrinking like that? They're just imaginary friends. They don't have that power.

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The op could just be using tulpa as a talking point for his fetish writing. Let's be honest, you wouldn't read that if it was just an idiot writing stories.

So in 10 years I'll finally have a portal to Unteralterbach…

I'll never understand the people who try to pull this bullshit after seeing its effects on other people I know. Lucid dreams are much better anyway.

It's called delusion.

I started skipping all the OP stories cuz it was just the same shit repeated, and reading a story about a man so weak quickly became enraging. I only paid attention to people calling him a retard because that's what I would have done if I were there.

I had this song playing in my mind while reading this.

Care to post the guides again?

I'd love to learn lucid dreaming for the sake of fugging waifus and exploring the worlds I've been in in previous dreams I've had, but the fear of going into a sleep coma is what really scares me.

There's like a 2% chance of that happening iirc.

Still too high.

Screw the odds, I'll just break the mechanics.

With my luck of "incredibly rare diseases" such as hernias, blood clots when I was 16, and heart issues at birth that 1% of the population or whatever has a risk of ever happening, I don't know man

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nigga

(heiled)
Nice clickbait. Also, who would have thought that strapping a screen 2 inches from your face would cause vision problems?

Holy shit, look at how Tumblrisms fucking RUINED everything

I already get those on really bad hangovers. But I bet VR will increase them. It may or may not be fun.

Seeing as none of you actually read the article, see:
>The tech expert was speaking out as part of a project which quizzed Microsoft’s female employees about their predictions for the future.
>>>/trash/

There's no Scholastic logo…

Wait,wasn't there a game that fucks with your TV?
I'd love to see a remake of said game to VR.
Sad thing is that I can't remember that game

There used be games that fucked with your TV, yes. Things like MGS and eternal darkness

I'm almost certain this is just a stupid marketing ploy.
It's a fucking screen taped to your face.

don't fucking make a tulpa you dumb niggers oh my fucking god

that's all good and fun until the cops are beating you to death for serial raping midgets.

Post'em
I want to try.

You guys never went on a marathon play for 40+ hours and started seeing shit irl?

72 hours straight of Ni no Kuni and no, I didn't see weird shit. Same thing with 30 hours straight of Tales of Xillia, much as I would love to see Milla in real life.

I'm too sane for that.

Porn VR games when?!

Don't have an exact guide, but if you want to start lucid dreaming you have to make a dream journal. Just keep a notepad or word doc open on your computer, or some pen and paper and write down everything you remember about a dream when you wake up. The more you do it, the more you dream, the better you remember your dreams, the more chance you have to wake into lucidness.
Also try to do reality checks inside dreams, like counting your fingers or imagining holding a heavy rock. This is harder to do when you're just dreaming normally, but it's a good way to stay lucid if you manage to get there.
As for the actual method, it's been a while since I tried lucid dream, but if I remember correctly you need to lay perfectly still on your back with your eyes open and pay attention to a particular sound in your room, like a clock ticking. I think white noise works best. You just let your eyes unfocus and stay like that for as long as it takes you to get to sleep. Sometimes spooky shit happens because your brain makes stuff up to entertain itself. I'm not sure how effective this method is, but try it out, maybe it'll work for you.

OBE = Lucid Dreaming = this guy's faggy terminology "the phase"

obe4u.com/files/the_phase.pdf

It's alot easier to wake up after 5-6 hours of sleep and perform WBTB techniques than to just rely on reality checks.

Sleep paralysis isn't anything to worry about, it's actually a great way to induce lucid dreaming/an OBE if you're in one.

Here is the question
Is Lucid Dreaming limited to abstractions of your own viewing and experiences
I'll give an example of a Virgin and wonder if it is possible for him to fug though Lucid dreaming despite being a Virgin
Or maybe another thing is driving when you've never driven before

That's a big dream

Dreaming has always been pretty limited to my personal experience. I mean I flew and shit as a kid, but it mostly matched feelings of when I jumped off tall ledges. Anytime I attempted driving odd shit would happen or it'd be some sort of auto-pilot like movement. At best it'll turn out the way you think/"know" it would.

Your brain can create a lot of scenarios that you haven't necessarily experienced. The first time I lucid dreamt, it was driving a car down a highway, despite the fact that I'd never driven at the point. But it wasn't like actual driving, it was just a really simplified version my brain made up based on what it knew. I just had my hands on the steering wheel and a foot on the pedal.

I imagine if you're a virgin and dream about sex it's just whatever your mind thinks sex feels like.

The real question on everyone's mind is: Can I be the little girl?

Yeah, the entire story just falls apart when you start asking how the fingernail thing would have worked in someone's house unless he was outside or in a mansion, how his parents never walked in on him during any of these, etc.

I had LD benis into vagina before the real thing

Felt better dreaming 2bh, the 3DPD incels may be onto something

At the risk of dissociative identity disorder, yes.

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I've had the Vive since it came out. The only weird thing I've experienced after having using it is feeling that I could teleport to places just by looking at them. I was surprised one time that I had a body when I looked down.

What the fuck kind of shit has the researcher been playing that causes hallucinations? because I want to have some fucking hallucinations.

Maybe he nigger rigged a headset to PCSXR and played LSD.

This kills the Holla Forums

also this

If Plato was right, then think about every useless thought you've had about grills going towards something better. So far I've only seen things like but if you could make something that real just on the energy of autism and sexual repression alone, what would happen if you tried to harness it?

Hey, it's real to us, even if we ARE in a simulation it's pointless to ruminate on it.

If it's true, we'll eventually find out one way or the other, but for now all we must do is live. There's nothing we can really do with that information anyway.

Take some shrooms then play the vive.

How?! Eyes adjust themselves to the darkness or get spazzy if I don't blink

Not to say you are wrong, but when searching this my self I don't see any credible sources saying anything about it, the first thing that comes up is "quora"

Lucid dreaming is already a thing, but from my experience it doesn't work the way you want it to. You just get up, get changed, eat some breakfast, go out to work/uni/whatever and then you wake up and realise that never happened.

top pleb

That sounds like you aren't lucid dreaming to me. Doesn't the whole "lucid" part of lucid dreaming mean that you are aware of the fact that you are dreaming? If you were aware, why would you go about your normal routine?

Fuck you it's fun.

Playing video games is pointless too, but it's also fun as well.

So we still do it.

I end up being aware that it's a dream but then I wake up right after. Looks like I need to git gud

Lucid dreaming to me seems wrong in the sense that manipulating your dreamtime will negatively affect your waking time. When I sleep I become notably better at whatever I was attempting the day before, to me dreaming is the replaying of information gained through the day as to learn faster and better how to do whatever it was you are doing, maybe a sort of rewiring occuring in the brain. I have no evidence or proof just a feeling that disturbing this cycle to live a fantasy would do more damage than good.

As for VR I always tell my brother that there cant not be consequences to using this stuff since he is really into it. The most likely side effect would be that people will lose their mental understanding of physics, e.g throwing a ball wont work like in the game so they will be terrible at it in real life. Things that we take for granted and are practiced at an almost subconscious level will be untaught through vr, even our ability to see at long distances will suffer. Basically anything that gets distorted by vr will degenerate. I dont even want to think about virtual waifus but then again there isnt many emotional experiences for you guys to lose anyway.

Shouldn't doing something because it's fun count as a point to doing it?

I've heard a theory that dreams are the result of the brain reorganizing experiences of the day for long-term memory. That being said, I don't think it's the only time your brain reorganizes your memories since you can learn new ideas and apply them to old practices immediately. Even if it the theory was correct and it was the only time the process occurred, whether or not the act of lucid dreaming would disrupt this process would ultimately depend on how much manipulation occurs. Mileage may vary and all that I guess?

With regards to VR, I feel as if that's the same argument liberals use to argue against vidya. I doubt people would "lose their mental understanding of physics" from a few hours or even years of VR games because A) Even when heavily immersed, suspension of disbelief is not perfect, and B)Something as fundamental as the innate understanding of basic physics should be impossible to rewrite after having conscious of it for the entirety of your lifetime.

kekked

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yesssss

We are programmed to dream. If we don't dream we will develop mental problems. VR is not programmed in our genes. Think of VR like going into space. People who stay in microgravity environments for extended periods have spinal fluid build up in their neck resulting in them gradually losing eye sight, bone loss, etc etc. VR will be the same but with different consequences with prolonged usage.

Im not sure if you have used VR before but your mind adapts instantaneously to the new environment its an incredible sensation. In one of the demos I tried there is a very fake dinosaur coming at you but I still had the instinct to run, that gut feeling of worry, same thing with the feeling of vertigo. Something that can trigger an instinctual response like that is doing who knows how much damage. I am never touching vr again untill a few years of heavy use have passed. This is all coming from someone who is on the computer like at least 8 hours per day.

My main worry is that as we progress this problem is only going to get worse.

Nice. Was gonna say that this shit seems silly when I can just tulpamance something better. People are spooked by the creepypastas and weird shit but I've have my tup for 4 years and we've existed in actual perfect harmony together.

We started a relationship a few months ago and it's been really nice so far

She's an upbeat tomboy qt and we played No Man's Sky after pirating it just so we could shit all over it together. It was amazing with someone as fun as her

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The only VR demos that I've played were for Enemy Starfighter, the PSVR and a demo the people making the S.T.E.M controllers had up some years ago. I suppose in the former two the situations were obviously foreign to me so they didn't really affect me much. The S.T.E.M demo had me climb up a ladder, though I was sitting down. So I guess I haven't really had as immersive an experience as you have. Maybe it differs from user to user, or maybe it differs from game to game.

Though this makes me wonder how popular horror VR will be. I mean the horror genre is pretty mainstream right now with our regular tech but, from your experience, I can't imagine horror VR from taking off in comparison to cockpit-sim VR.

Good. The sooner I can escape this shitty reality the better.

Thanks for the mockup idea!

Evangelion to an extent, Instrumentality.

Thread should have ended a long time ago.

/thread

So you've never played XCOM huh.

you seem a bit nervous there agent smith

Yeah and the polar ice caps will melt and flood the planet by 2013.

oh my god we have to warn the surface dwellers

nah but do you remember that shit Gore was peddling to try and shut down american powerplants? Same with obongos.

why american power plants? were doing so much better than we were in the 60s. if people are worried about pollution look no further than the land of dog eaters.

LONG LIVE THE NEW FLESH

It is almost like projecting the future is impossible/dumb. Also people who took 1 class in psychology have zero fucking understanding how the brain works.

Why are anons so fucking dumb?

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Because the Dems hate america.
Because America isn't a democracy
Because you can't use demograph flooding to overturn polls like you can in Europe.
And for my alt right friends, this isn't about eugenics either. Much like the holocaust. wasn't Hitler blew all of germany's money on socialist bullshit

close enough ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Make sure to make a Tulpa Jackie Chan just in case.

Porn when?

Your expectations of reality have a heavy influence on how you perceive reality. Most people expect reality to "just kind of work" with no real mystery bullshit going on behind the scenes. This means that they, subconsciously, don't jump to extravagant magical conclusions and generally break down things to "I'm probably just interpreting it wrong", instead of, "holy shit this is witchcraft".

When you engage in all the fringe/tulpa magic bullshit, you're essentially trying to fuck with your subconscious expectations on reality so that you can achieve the desired results.
If your expectation is that your imaginary friend can twist your perception of reality, and that your imaginary friend can act autonomously from you, making its own decisions, then it shouldn't surprise you that it fucks with you and makes you space out into daydreaming every once in a while.

For an example of expectations fucking with perception: See that blue/black dress that made rounds on the internet a bit over a year ago, because some people perceived it as white/gold, others as blue/black. When you experience something, your mind tends to snap into a certain perception there-of, and this one was an edge-case where it actually produces the incorrect perception in some cases. If you want to experiment with this, try to look at the image, close your eyes, keeping the image in your mind, then swap the colors in the image in your mind. If you open your eyes again, you have a pretty good chance of actually perceiving it the other way.

Of course, this is no-where near the extremity of these fringe/tulpa stories, but it's something that most people should be capable of experiencing without too much practice.

Everyone involved in developing VR would need to first stop being terrible at their jobs.

some questions are better left unanswered

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I have this pic about some methods to achieve lucid dreaming.
Sorry if i can't tell more, i never got enough motivation to try these out as usually i have some kind of mental block, is always bets to follow the advice from anons that managed to control their dreams.

Someone here should create a Kek/Pepe tulpa. Nothing can possibly go wrong.

of course he does

I'd rather play with VR than rely on a literal imaginary friend.

Wow wow wow wow

VR is just as imaginary, the difference is one is closed source while the other isn't.

I'm spooked enough as is, but got a source to read?

My favourite psychology history bit is the scientist who almost made themselves an alcoholic from trying to discover where in the brain memories are stored.

Yuru Yuri?

I remember I tried WILD and got it to work ONCE, but I fucked it up by not realizing I was dreaming. I thought I fucked up, fell asleep, and woke up next morning. I just got out of bed and did normal stuff until I woke up for real.

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Saya no Uta?

I'm sure you mean the post-WWI bankruptcy that killed the country, right? The one caused by Germany having to pay reparations to the other nations affected by the war? I'm sure you're not talking about Germany under Hitler which became the world's strongest economy in under a decade. Based on the fact that you type like a fucking retard, I can only assume that you're not American, not white, or both. I don't really expect you to have a solid grasp on history.

When films first came out, people were running out of the theatres because they thought the trains coming at the camera were going to run them over. I'm not arguing against the phenomenon you're describing, but I think it'll lessen over time, or even disappear in subsequent generations.

Just put it on, goy.

The Sun is shit and you should feel bad for linking to a tabloid. Don't even care if you archived it.

Which game is that webm from user?

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Cannot find it, it was a hilarious projection that new york was going to be nothing but rails and entire buildings would be driven by rail as needed.

Like any future projection it is better to write a book about it than actually say it like it is going to happen.

Also this, in the future NYC is going to look like some shitty sterilized flat and boring glass thing.
huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/04/new-york-city-in-20-years_0_n_4182025.html

I still reaffirm that nerds who have zero understanding how the world/anything beyond their little bubble works should shut the fuck up and reporters need to stop talking about this dumb shit.

It is like the idiots supporting google making a work town without taking a look at history which can give you a glaring example of why that is the dumbest idea imaginable.

The style of it makes me think of homeworld. But I'm not sure since I've never played homeworld

you people disgust me

Nigger archive that shit

As for the predictions that post wasn't a good example since it was all dumb gentrification projects

But I get your point, most cyberpunk novels for example completely missed the mark of what the future would be.

Ironically none of those authors saw smartphones coming even when PDAs already existed at the time

No it isn't

What are these levels of meta?

Boku no pico?

Yeah its called propaganda.

On the other side you already had your bad roll in life, luck comes around.

The correct term is "thought form", tulpa is something different.

blueflamemagick.wordpress.com/2014/09/14/tulpa-not-what-you-think/

hello my dudes XDDD

S U C C

Nobody gives a shit about semantics, wizard.

And yet they're both for homosexuals.

If by "nobody" you mean double digit IQ individuals, then you are correct.

merely jesting, mind you

Stopped reading right there.

And in Japan "Anime" just literally means "animation", as in all of it. You know sometimes when a term is borrowed by another group the meaning changes.

That dude was a fucking retard. I remember trying to convince the faggot along with other anons that he's being manipulated, taken advantage of or that he might have a lot more "fun" (in the very least) if he didn't let the entity sap his energy and control him. There was no way of convincing him that his sexual wish fulfillment was anything even close to bad for him. It's the fucking end result of all perversions, doubly so if individuals like that get into the occult. Every problem is magnified a thousandfold.

Oranges and apples, the use of the term tulpa is wrong and not related to what a "thoughtform" really is.
It's like calling an Arab Waffen SS soldier "kraut" just because he's affiliated with Germany.

There are three choices:

Also, do you know how culling works in 3D engines? If you don't, engines don't render everything going on at all times- they only actually display things that're onscreen. That's why some games look like shit if you spin around a bunch and why DayZ runs like shit- they didn't implement culling for a long-ass time. Now, consider how light works. It's either a particle or a wave, and it doesn't exist before it's directly observed and it becomes one of the two. We're starting to see the seams.

Anything that can ever become that needlessly dangerous is for faggots, no matter how well someone keeps it in check. I can't think of any of history's greats needing such a crutch. It's all for the perpetually low-energy.

Yeah right, faggot. What is self-hypnosis if not creating the you that you want and then embodying it (becoming one with it). What is seeing yourself as the person you want to be, having the job you want to have and then doing what you can until you have it. What is being an athlete, running plays in your head, until you can clearly feel how to do them? Thoughtforms are goddamn commonplace and used by almost anyone who can imagine, but most get used by them or don't control them. Most self-help books make you use them because they work.

Trump himself has a vid from the 80s on Oprah responding to some cunt asking how an average person like her could become successful like him. He told her the first step - don't see yourself as average, you have a lot of stuff going for yourself etc. After that comes seeing yourself as having the things you want.

Exactly - It's all for low energy homos.

Letting emotions control you, letting bad impressions control you, letting "bad thoughts" control you - all is to be averted by being in control yourself by any means necessary. I do not for an instant believe that you are as high energy all the time as you'd like to suggest, lad. If at any point you are not, but need to be, you would be hyping yourself up, which is a basic bitch attempt at this.

Nice jealousy, m80. So much for not letting "bad thoughts" control you. Hey, I have an idea: Maybe you can use your thought forms to figure out why you're so ass blasted at people who are more outgoing than you? Though it'll probably fail, because you need such a crutch in the first place. :^)

The other first step is getting a million dollars from your dad. Don't forget that part because it takes a lot more time to make that first million than the other 999.

There are enough failures in the world that have snorted daddies money like champs, though. Trump didn't so it stands to reason he might have done something right at least. If you want to see if it gets results, then try it yourself. Nothing else will prove if it's true or false.

topkek, m80. Keep on shitposting.

Doesn't concern me.
It's not like my life matters anyway.

Foolish goyim, thinking this is somewhat about video games.

lol funnyyyyy joke fellow meat puppet!!!!

yes, it is funny isn't it. Very funny indeed, we all had a lovely chuckle about that didn't we friendo? didn't we.

I don't wan to suffer through another existential crisis, NOT AGAIN.

holy shit, imagine if you could earn augmented reality TF2-style hats for your meatspace avatar!

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew

Tulpas are actually demons, they trick you into taking over your existence.

i've tried lucid dreaming but it always comes down to

top lel

I don't care, I've said it before this opinion was cool but FUCK VR. Never ever will I use it or buy into this retarded gimmick.

When VR is the norm, of my hobby and it makes gaming around it difficult I'll just quit gaming all together and do something else.

These faggots can kiss my ass.

(Checked)

I fucking knew it! I knew the intention with this was to program peoples brains with false memories. This shit runs at high framerates, optimally 120fps and higher. You better believe they're inserting a frame here and there with propaganda. Or they'll try to induce epilepsy. Who fucking knows the long term effects of this.

Sounds cool, but I already lucid dream and my biggest fear is going blind, so no way I'll be using VR anyway.

Even muh dik?

Sounds like Neuromancer.

Her face is bigger than two inches.

oh shit

in the book Snow Crash a computer virus was released that would kill anyone who received it while plugged into the VR matrix

I feel like people who will use VR can be counted as not really human anymore

Not gen 1 but maybe 3rd or 4th.

Do you really want to beta test VR?

I forsee that the next thing after this VR bullshit is some optic nerve shit. That will fry brains.

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you are correct. look up DARPA deep brain implants, a 'modest' beginning.

The Triumph of Progress!

Shit is gonna be wild then. People hacking into people, that will be hell.

I have mixed feelings, and I fear the temptation of the Experience Machine

These numbers…

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I already see the kind of shit that's going to happen with that

How do I know I'm not hallucinating OP?

How Can Hallucinations Be Real If Your Eyes Arent Real?

user I'm your subconscious
You're not hallucinating right now I'm pretty sure
Also stop thinking about your sister in that way, incest is wrong

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Thanks user

We still need a Freedom-frame Astray that has red, white, and blue coloration.

Alkaline and basic are the same thing, you nigger.

Favoritism is just one aspect of corruption though. BP and Royal Dutch Shell for example carry a heavy say in British politics like so, but they've not gotten to the point of enforcing their will via the government. It's a very nuanced thing

I meant the places with the highest population density.

Moar please?

Why make a car known to have a problematic engine

Lads.

If i'm camper converting a basic panel van, do I need to keep the ply lined back and put carpet on top of it, or can I remove the ply and carpet over the body?

Also, if the ply is rough and damaged, is it worth replacing first before covering?

hold

is that..

another set of..

DUBS??

Yeah, strangely enough, though, you don't post on it.

WELP, IT LOOKS LIKE BUI MOVED HIS SPAM BOT OVER TO Holla Forums NOW.
THIS IS NOT GOOD.

#3

#2

Yo post more requests nigz. Sophie? KStew? Titwell, Grimes, Chrvches girl, Lizfu?

heathen! kek is a global existence

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yeah that hard method sounds real fucking easy way to induce waking paralysis
the thing you're probably talking about is the "Prisoner's Cinema" effect, you only get it to a real degree over several months of confinement or under influence, but in an ordinary dark environment you might start seeing shapes if you have a visual defect like visual snow or persisting migraine aura

About tree fiddy

I can see the rationale of it though. like it or not, you're eventually going to fall asleep (unless you have a dude stabbing you or a hot poker up your hot pocket cavity or something) and a lack of stimulus makes you think more, because you have nothing to do, leading you to a roused state in your sleep

doesn't sound fun at all though, and it probably bumps up chances of waking hallucinations

just drink a cup of soda before going to sleep or something, it'll make you remember your dreams if nothing else

the thing is, you end up satisfied no matter what choice you make
unless you only get a single opportunity to plug in, or something

anthers is usually good enough for most people but pm is just dead in general

theyre working on a full client to integrate emulator/website and matchmaking but its a long time coming and its only going to be for melee

i dont think any of the pm dev went to wavedash games, and wavedash games existed when pm was still being developed

Its just tetris effect.

but he owns a magic castle

What happened to muting people? Is that not good enough?

boring gameplay, decent music