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Brayden Carter
Brayden Carter

Don't you wish menus these days looked like pic related? They SHOULD.

We need to be talking about DEFLATION. There's too much money in circulation. Do you remember when quarters and even dimes meant something? Now all that medal is just wasted. There's no point in even keeping it in your wallet anymore.

We need to:
-End the private-owned Federal Reserve
-Stop production of new bills immediately (more bills=less value=inflation)

Yes, deflation brings unemployment, but it's a pain caused to us by the previous system. Deflate currency back to the point where dimes are valuable again, then stabilize it. A man earns his living just the same way as today, but now that spare change is an asset instead of a pain. And deflation means a stronger US dollar that can buy more foreign goods!

End the Federal Reserve, deflate US currency!

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theguardian.com/technology/2018/jan/17/bitcoin-electricity-usage-huge-climate-cryptocurrency
archive.org/details/Feder-Gottfried-Das-Manifest-zur-Brechung-der-Zinsknechtschaft-1
archive.org/details/Feder-Gottfried-Kampf-gegen-die-Hochfinanz

Charles Gonzalez
Charles Gonzalez

Increase tariffs, end the fed. GTKRWN.

Jason Sanchez
Jason Sanchez

While I agree, the absolute value of cash isn't important, these things are:
1. Wages. Purchasing power.
2. An end to inflation, or at least bringing it to far lower levels. Officially inflation doesn't exist, but that's because they use a basket of goods that nobody in even the lower middle class can stomach (like yucky foamy white bread, and the fact they exclude necessary electronics/services of a normal modern life, like cellphones & toll tags).
3. Plentiful jobs. Easy to get hired, get a chance to prove yourself.
4. Plentiful on-job training.

Deflation is bad, because it discourages investment.

Joseph Rivera
Joseph Rivera

I can appreciate the sentiment, but deflation causes economic collapse because a decrease in currency in circulation reduces the flow of currency through the economy and the economy grinds to a halt. Thats not to say there arent also issues with inflation.

I suggest you learn about the modern monetary system and them read Gottfried Feder's "The Abolition of Slavery to Interest on Money", which is a foundational work of national socialism

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Dylan Lopez
Dylan Lopez

government money should be monopolized in creation by that government
so not made by banks or whatever, only the official treasury
it should only issue money for goods and services provided
so wages of government employees and roads built or maintained, and other projects and things government does
government should only do the things neccesary for government to do, including whatever is best for the nation
inflation and deflation do not matter as much as the health of the nation does

Henry Green
Henry Green

How much deflation could we have if we killed welfare?

Jacob Foster
Jacob Foster

bitcoin

/thread

Jaxson Miller
Jaxson Miller

The fiat system has to be tied into the true thermodynamic economy. Disconnecting the monetary system from the thermodynamic realities of the real economy will only result in catastrophe.

Angel Perry
Angel Perry

None, unless you change the monetary system itself. As long as the government is continuously printing dollars, everything is fucked.

Kevin Harris
Kevin Harris

theguardian.com/technology/2018/jan/17/bitcoin-electricity-usage-huge-climate-cryptocurrency

Jackson Gonzalez
Jackson Gonzalez

as long as people still accept dollars as payment
Everything was fucked before we even got here

Carter Miller
Carter Miller

Bitcoin's electricity use is what makes it ESPECIALLY fucking retarded.

Tyler Morales
Tyler Morales

The Federal Reserve is unconstitutional, money can only be created by the treasury. Yes, everything was truly fucked up well before anyone on Holla Forums was born, but we have to fix it anyway, because that's what previous generations have done: they fuck it up by not gassing the kikes, and we have to fix it.
There are a limited number of decent people in the world at any given time. The ONLY reason we have nice things at all and we're not dying of starvation and disease is because the few people in every generation who weren't completely shit. Look at how jews lived in their ghettos, how the niggers live when the white man isn't around. They are pure shit. Nothing they have is through their own efforts. They are incapable of creating nice things.
The decent white men of our generation have one fucking task: gas the kikes.

Brandon James
Brandon James

Yeah, so what's your proposal for ending the fed.

Jack Williams
Jack Williams

At best, your purchasing power won't go anywhere. At worst, (((somebody))) would have to steal your money and burn it to make this happen.

Austin Thomas
Austin Thomas

a government fiat currency will always outperform a market currency in its own country since it will demand taxes in its own currency and not bitcoin

Isaac Nguyen
Isaac Nguyen

End the use of Federal Reserve notes, seize the assets of Federal Reserve shareholders, imprison as many kikes as possible, return the power of money creation to the Treasury as it was written in the constitution. Just stopping the money printing for a minute will crash the economy though, but at this point I think Trump could just declare martial law, gas the kikes, and sort out distribution through military logistics. We have enough military manpower to do it, and enough Trump voters who'd pitch in. It's all dependent upon positioning to make sure the key pieces are in place before effecting a plan like that

Aiden Edwards
Aiden Edwards

steal your money and burn it
Most money is digital and in a bank's servers. A handful of keystrokes would "burn" it all.

Aaron Cook
Aaron Cook

End the use of Federal Reserve notes, seize the assets of Federal Reserve shareholders, imprison as many kikes as possible, return the power of money creation to the Treasury as it was written in the constitution.
So, uh… how do you plan to do that?
I think Trump could just declare martial law
Technically could, but won't, ever, in any capacity. Do you have an actual plan or are you just shitballing?

Benjamin Rodriguez
Benjamin Rodriguez

And how do you see it happening then smartass? What other possibly way can you seize control of the money supply in America, while maintaining a hint of status quo without declaring martial law?

David Robinson
David Robinson

won't, ever
Now that seems like a foolish thing to say.

Robert Kelly
Robert Kelly

only 5% of money in circulation is REAL money, the rest is credit made by the banks from fractional reserve lending.

1 I put $100 in my bank
2 Bank loans out $95
3 Bank puts $95 of credit in my bank
TADA! Banks just made $195 worth of currency with only $100 real dollars.

now cycle this a few hundred thousand times. outlaw fractional reserve lending

Jaxon Lewis
Jaxon Lewis

And how do you see it happening then smartass?
I don't see it happening. You're the one with the proposal. Either don't make a shit thread next time or don't post.
What other possibly way can you seize control of the money supply in America, while maintaining a hint of status quo without declaring martial law?
You can't. And as that will never happen, ever, you're going to need to come up with something else.
Prove me wrong, then.

Brandon Morgan
Brandon Morgan

Burden of proof is on you, but good luck arguing a hypothetical, lol fag.

Andrew White
Andrew White

The posters arguing that deflation ruins an economy are right. It's why we should be pushing for it. Normalfags spend anywhere from 25-50% of their monthly income paying mortgage or rent. If the value of the dollar suddenly skyrockets, wages will drop in response. However, you're fucking high if you think the kikes will ever even dream of forgiving the goyim of their debts. Suddenly the lemmings are having to spend 75% or more of their monthly income on their mortgage.

They will lose their homes. They will lose their cars. They will lose their comfortable, docile, mind-numbing suburban existence - the only existence that they ever knew. For the first time in their lives, they will have no choice but to confront the fact that it was all a malevolent charade intended to keep them permanently weak and shackled. They will be hit with the full force of the realization that their lives are shallow and meaningless, and there will be no material goods to soften the blow or distract them. And they will be furious. All we have to do is point out (truthfully) that the kikes are to blame for their misery, and every single one will be gassed so quickly that it will make your head spin.

Once the kikes are gone, we wipe the slate clean, start over, and rebuild our society in a much wiser fashion.

Connor Mitchell
Connor Mitchell

medal
*metal

keeping it in your wallet
who keeps coins in their wallet?

private-owned Federal Reserve
what's wrong with the Federal Reserve being owned by the member banks? you're spouting bullshit buzzword talking-points. you have no fucking clue how the financial system works

Stop production of new bills immediately
the vast majority of purchasing power does not exist in actual paper bills, you dipshit. if you stop printing bills, the money still exists, but its just hard to do transactions without the hard currency. you are literally a retard

Parker Moore
Parker Moore

Not great at this, but;
Millions (est 20%+ of US pop?) on Food stamps now allowed to use restaurants in several states, in addition to welfare use, this created millions of new customers for restaurants, driving up prices, by design.
.
statisticalatlas dot com/state/California/Food-Stamps
.
Note; "children" aka Anchor Babies in CA, guess where they eat?

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Juan Thomas
Juan Thomas

Bitcoin's electricity use is what makes it ESPECIALLY fucking retarded.
THIS
I never really understood how it worked until I looked at it a little more in depth. I read somewhere one transaction takes a weeks worth of an average households electricity usage.
So "mining" bitcoin is basically paying for it through your utility bill. A huge waste of electricity IMHO.

Ayden Fisher
Ayden Fisher

We ought to have more micro/macro and banking threads like this, sick of seeing the same da joos threads up.

Christian Jenkins
Christian Jenkins

this is why crypto has no actual value, none of it is real. Scarcity means shit if you have to pump something for it to have value.

Ryder James
Ryder James

Gottfried Feder's "The Abolition of Slavery to Interest on Money"
Is it possible to find the original German edition of this sort of book?

Lucas Richardson
Lucas Richardson

archive.org/details/Feder-Gottfried-Das-Manifest-zur-Brechung-der-Zinsknechtschaft-1

However, this actually is only a part of his bigger work 'Kampf gegen die Hochfinanz' or 'Struggle against High Finance':
archive.org/details/Feder-Gottfried-Kampf-gegen-die-Hochfinanz

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Christian Young
Christian Young

DEPOPULATION IS THE ANSWER
DOTR NOW!!!

Aiden Jenkins
Aiden Jenkins

less money = more value
What kind of jew trickery is this.
Output = Input.

Value fluctuation comes from two contexts:
1. Less produce than last season but need same annual income.
2. Less availability than last year but people outbid eachother.

There is a third, it is called jewing and therefore is not a viable or sustainable option for a healthful society.
3. No matter the amount or availability compared to last year people will pay more when forced.

INFLATION IS A JEWISH BANKING SCAM

Hudson Adams
Hudson Adams

We alreadyt know this shit, newfag. The problem is "How?" People have proposed Bitcoin, but in my eyes that creates a perverse dependency on technology which would be a wet dream to unhumans like Ray Kurtzwelli. Gold Standard has also been tossed around, but it seems too Liberterian and doesn't seem to be likely to follow-through. All you've done, OP, is repeat things we've already known. What you need to do is stop being a faggot and propose ideas.

Nolan King
Nolan King

debt slavery

Manifesto for the Abolition of Enslavement to Interest on Money
Gottfried Feder

Originally published in 1919, this new translation of one of the most important historical economic manuscripts proposes some revolutionary changes to the German economy that are also applicable to any nation today. Gottfried Feder was a key founder of the German Nazi Party and the economic mentor of Adolf Hitler.

In his Manifesto, Gottfried Feder goes after Mammonism and interest-slavery while proposing new ideas and solutions to common economic woes, especially problems affecting Germany at the time.

Published without the typical anti-German footnotes found in many translated Nazi documents (especially as seen in Mein Kampf), this Manifesto is must-read for any student of either history or economics!

amazon.com/s/ref=dp_byline_sr_ebooks_1?ie=UTF8&text=Gottfried+Feder&search-alias=digital-text&field-author=Gottfried+Feder

Jaxson Harris
Jaxson Harris

ideas
whachugot
Fiat based on buttcoin and cockchain
Fiat is physical, difficult to reproduce.
Buttcoin is scalable, which is needed to match society population fluctuations.
Cockchain is public ledger.
but muh lectricity
Solar ?

Landon Williams
Landon Williams

nazi
nazi = wermacht
My apologies, anons.
I do not mean to slander or or insult.

Angel Torres
Angel Torres

No, the burden of proof is not on me. You made the claim. You have to prove it. Kill yourself.
oy vey goyim fiat has failed you
but fiat will surely work this time
/suicide/index.html

Hunter Lopez
Hunter Lopez


muh books
1. Manifesto for the Abolition of Enslavement to Interest on Money by Gottfried Feder

2. The Program of the Party of Hitler: The National Socialist German Workers' Party and Its General Conceptions

3. MANIFIESTO PARA EL QUEBRANTAMIENTO DE LA SERVIDUMBRE DEL INTERÉS DEL DINERO: Adaptación a la España de nuestros días

4. Kampf-gegen-die-Hochfinanz: 1935 (German Edition)

5. Das-Manifest-zur-Brechung-der-Zinsknechtschaft: 1919 (German Edition)

6. Il Programma del N.S.D.A.P. (Percorsi della Weltanschauung Vol. 3) (Italian Edition)

7. Hitler's Official Programme RLE Responding to Fascism (Routledge Library Editions: Responding to Fascism)

mods no bully

David Cox
David Cox

fiat has failed you
Wut.
MAN MAKES MONEY
MONEY DOES NOT MAKE MAN
Please define fiat, user.
What does it mean to you ?

Jackson Miller
Jackson Miller

kike thinks that definitions are subjective
still shilling for fiat currency
Enjoy starving when the power goes out. We won’t fall for it.

Justin Smith
Justin Smith

You have completly misunderstood my concerns surrounding the rise of Bitcoin. Read "The Age of Spiritual Machines" by Ray Kurtzwelli and tell me that it's a future you want. Bitcoin is a giant-step forward in a human's learned dependence on machines. Should Bitcoin succeed, computers will enter society already more than has existed and Kurtzwelli's perverted predictions will begin happening much faster than predicted. The Singularity is a perversion and Ray Kurtzwelli is a primary enemy to humanity. Should bitcoin succeed in replacing the systems of currency exchange that have existed on this earth since we first began to farm, we'll enter a dystopic form of the Age of Aquarius , rather than a good one. Do you really want to lose the ability to touch, and "free" yourself of your body to be trapped in the realm of pure math, an artificial enviornment with no soul?

Nathaniel Bailey
Nathaniel Bailey

definitions are subjective
They are. As is all reality, user.
Such is the thing called 'Value'.
when the lectricity goes out.
That's the feature of fiat that is most interesting; a physical store of value.
Tho electricity is mae by man, not money, and so is the science that comprehends electricity.
fiat bad mkay
Why do you think this ?
What about fiat or buttcoin is so bad ?

Ryan Allen
Ryan Allen

ban evading kike shill expects anyone to listen to what he says
Thanks for admitting you were wrong.

Hunter Scott
Hunter Scott

buttcoin is bad
you dont get it
The only feature of buttcoin that provides value, besides the public/private key thing, which is good on its own, is the scalability.
Buttcoin attempts to resolve the scalability problems associated with printing physical stores of value. It does this by freeing individual people of the slavery that is the value-on-loan per life from a central bank when they are born (birthed).

I agree with your reservations that reliance on machines is not good but it is a temporary thing that will settle only in the products and services that rely on it, as opposed to the trendy use of it that has always existed with the emergence and adoption of new "technologies".

Luke Garcia
Luke Garcia

Expecting modern people to fight back.
The average normalfag will fall to despair before he gets angry, maybe a few generations of such a system will breed the sufficiently hardened people’s that could seize their destiny, but the average person is just too domesticated. That’s the reason that no one here has started anything, everyone wants the explosion but no one is willing to light the fuse.

Kayden Baker
Kayden Baker

ban evading
Never been banned, user.
Mods are philosopher kings.
expects
Those who listen will listen.
Those who care will care.


KEEP CALM
AND
ARY AN

Nolan Rivera
Nolan Rivera

obviously banned
obviously shilling for kike lies
has absolutely no argument
Nah, we won’t fall for your fiat scam.

Luke Williams
Luke Williams

admitting wrong
thanks
I did not.
Only a fool would believe your lies.
You have yet toanswer my queries or offer any statements of your own other than "kike shill".

Levi Martin
Levi Martin

fiat
scam
I did not shill fiat, user.
I suggested merging a feature of it, it's physical nature, as a feature of a newer currency/value store.

It is a shame that you do not offer any value to your arguments.

Josiah Bell
Josiah Bell

contributed to thread
Grunk out !

Carter Watson
Carter Watson

fractional reserve lending
that's a nice meme you got there. It's cute how you think banks even consider what deposits they have before they start shitting out loans.
interbank lending covers any and all funds required for new loans, forcing the fed's hand into creating new money to meet this loan demand.
Considering it's just kike after kike taking a slice and passing the buck until it lands in the taxpayer's lap, the fed is more than happy to aid and abet this process

Nathaniel Jones
Nathaniel Jones

Stop production of new bills immediately
Most money is not in bills but numbers.

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Carter Hernandez
Carter Hernandez

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Dancing and being appreciated for it is beyond the realm of possibility for unaesthetic autistic white bois.
The key to dancing is to be beautiful.
Dancing and being appreciated for it is beyond the realm of possibility for unaesthetic autistic white bois.
Prove me wrong.
Prove me wrong.
Dancing and being appreciated for it is beyond the realm of possibility for unaesthetic autistic white bois.
The key to dancing is to be beautiful.
The key to dancing is to be beautiful.
The key to dancing is to be beautiful.
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