Anybody else enjoying the free-to-play edition of everyone's favorite spreadsheet sim?

Whoops, fucked that up. Just google the bloodbath of b-r5rb

You have a spaceship. After you start the game then you fuck off and do whatever you want.

Didn't the goons start dying out after they couldn't get insider information anymore after their guy working at CCP left to work elsewhere and most went over to Star Citizen?

I'm sorry, what?

I've been meaning to get around to it but forget to do it.

Didn't they get btfo by everyone during that one war? Also what's the situation with that goon dev, he still there?

There isn't an 8ch corp one but I do remember 4chan groups did exist.

Is EVE really worth it?
Pic unrelated.

If you don't mind the time sink that is MMOs but you're fucking tired of Themepark MMOs/WoW Clones then it's worth a try.

I've enjoyed EVE. I find the thing you have to avoid is getting stuck in a rut of doing just one thing. Yes, there's going to be a lot of grinding, it's an MMO after all, but there's enough of a variety of things to do out there to eat up quite a bit of time.

This game breaks my heart man.
I had 8 amazing years fighting people, spying on people, breaking into forums, shitposting on Kugutsumen.com but every year the mechanics of the game got worse and worse.

Such an amazing time during which i made friends that still last till today but i wished it would finally die so i'm not tempted to activate my 4 accounts again.

How`s the goon empire doing?

Bottom left of the map.

Same here. It took five years for CCP to, piece by piece, break everything I enjoyed about the game.

Wow, they have really fallen from their previous standings.

I'll tell you what you need to know just based around core aspects of the game.

EVE is a game where you are one speck of sand in one giant sand box and really this is the best and worst aspect of the game. You can go anywhere you want and do what you want. The game's only limitations are how fat you're making your wallet and who happens to be shooting at you. You have to learn to play smart and learn how to maneuver in your chosen space. However, this also means you're mostly just a regular guy in most cases and that can be pretty sobering when you might want to feel like someone special in a video game.

In EVE, things operate much as they do in the real world. If you're in a giant alliance with a lot of people you aren't really in control of your time and your own destiny unless you are smart enough or lucky enough to work your way up the ladder of command. The bonus is you get to be in the massive wars and control territory and be part of something big. The crazy stories about diplomacy, backstabbings, and warfare generate typically from these large low-security and null-security entities.

If being on your own is your kind of thing you can find good content battling players in low security space and trying to make yourself a major nuisance to more honest folk. There are also really interesting entrepreneurs who carve out their own niche and gain fame or infamy for it. There are people who make freight and scouting alliances that get money for doing exactly what it described completely honestly. others make mercenary groups or dedicate themselves to being pirates or hyper mining jews. You're free to try and strike out on your own in these ways but it's difficult without having made some money, connections or talent (like in real life).

Is it worth it? It's free to play now for skilling up through cruisers so I'd say it's worth trying and finding out what works for you. There's opportunities everywhere and there are a lot of people out there who get excited about having new people in the game.

I never implied they were no more, why so defensive goon?

To be fair you gotta think about what they once had. It's not just about your alliance these days. They had some of the most secure space in the game with good proximity to the most major trade hub (Jita). In addition to this they were surrounded on all sides by puppet alliances that they controlled. They slowly drained the life of all of their coalition members, their enemies and even their own alliance until people finally got sick of shit and started doing something. Events eventually collided from various conflicts to create a perfect storm that an EVE casino owner decided to take advantage of. Using a fucking ton of money and influence to bring together nearly every power in the game with the exception of the russians to come and run a massive train on the goons' collective assholes. Goons were crushed and tried to meta their way out of it as they usually did. Didn't work and their guerilla warfare ended up making them lose two of their largest and most powerful allies who got sick of their shit and left them for better space and literally drained the memberships of the other alliances to the point that they could no longer be sustained and they disbanded.

I'd say they're doing alright now and honestly I'm glad they're not dead because I can fight them again. They made the right choice going to delve and remaking redswarm federation because it has a nostalgic ring and galvanized their membership back to pre-war levels. But by no means would I consider them to be the most powerful anymore. They know pretty well that most of the rest of EVE hates their guts and that they have to play nice for a good while before they can act a fool again and try to extort alliances for money just so they can live.

Pics related just so you get a comparison of what shit was like during World War Bee and now. Indeed they have a lot of space because they share it with Red Alliance and Dream Fleet. But their numbers are a lot more thinned down. By around half of what their old coalitions was.

"Imperium" was the goon leader's self-flagellating name for his coalition. They've been rebranding to Redswarm federation like I said in order to renew their image.

This game is autism but I love it.
Being an Alpha (f2p) clone sucks because you have no consistent and fast way to earn money because the good mining ships are Omega only, all you have is a Venture and no mining drones.

bait.tiff

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What am I supposed to do then?

Literally anything but mining.

Do some exploration or missions or some shit.

In your current state you could probably make it into a corp that's more friendly to new players. Data sites are good money. If you save up enough to get PLEX for a few months then you can get the skills you need to make more money and PLEX every month.

Trading, ratting, exploration, scamming, farming lvl 2 missions for tags, bunch of fw stuff… All open to α fags and better than mining.

I mostly just mine and build Kestrels and Condors which I sell. I only mine the pyrite and Tritanium, can't get all the other ones fast enough with Venture.

I played Eve briefly about 3 weeks. All I did was mine in null.

Oh, my favorite no-skill money making activity was salvaging wrecks and collecting leftover drones around lowsec gates and stations. You'd be surprised by how much valuable stuff people leave behind.

I played for a couple years back in college. At the end I was able to fly any ship from any race that was a Command Ship (specializing in leadership skills) or smaller, as well as the Minmatar Battleship for my alliance. It was pretty neat but ultimately the game kind of fucked itself over time like so many others before it.

I'm happy to see the Goons finally got crushed though.

How much ISK/Hour would you get from that?

The problem with EVE is they need people like me to show people how to have fun, because it is really really not self-evident, but at the same time CCP does everything it can to drive us away. That's the funniest part of this f2p shit.

Back then it was enough to support a frigate pvp habit, without it feeling like work.

Is it f2p now as in the monthly subscription is gone?

Free players are limited in what skills/ships they can fly. Full access is $10/month (I played back when it was $15/month).

It's fun until you hit the endgame wall, where all the biggest corps are so risk-averse they set meet-ups to do pre-planned fights instead of trying to conquer territory, otherwise they get bored to tears.

I mean, there will always be people out there who need kestrels and condors. They're incredibly cheap to make though and you won't turn much profit till you start shitting out a lot of them. Though even with just your character with basic marketing skills if you start with a little money you can make that into a lot of money by just trading. Glad to see somebody starting out who's actually doing indy.

can you get the omega thing with plex or how does it work?

Yep. It's really just an infinite trail.

is it even worth trying to do? im poor

Don't know, don't care. But I doubt you would be able to earn enough for a PLEX with it. Unless you are very patient, good/lucky at scamming, or hardcore into trading.

If anybody wants me to I'll set up an Holla Forums corp.

The goons got fucking destroyed in the war.

It could be compared to the Iraq war. The Americans invaded and the Iraqi military fell within a week, then the insurgents popped up. The Goons resorted to guerilla tactics and hiding.

>playing EVE when Star Citizen is just a few dozen months from final release
But seriously, when are we making a Star Citizen organization? trade and piracy will be in the game soon

Holy shit that name brings back memories.

Oh great, the next cancerous shitgame on the horizon.

Guerilla tactics are actually more fun than throwing titanballs at each other though.

Any actual argument or are you spilling bile for no reason?
Check the recent updates, progress is speeding up

More like abusing game mechanics.

Goons wouldn't undock because the moment they did they would get blown the fuck out.

The Sword fleet doctrine was nice, but cloak bombing and running away won't win you the war.

Hardly a new or unique tactic. "Boring the enemy out" was a true and tried tactic the Northern Coalition employed for years and sadly it was often succesfull.
I was in three or four invasions against the North and when you're in a coalition of hardcore PVP-alliances like TRI, ev0ke, Cry Havoc, NCDOT and Dead Terrorists the worst that can happen is when you don't get any PVP and instead nothing but Sov-grind.

In the leadership we of course tried to hold up moprale by saying the enemy is scared of us but in reality bunkering down and refusing to fight us was always a effective tactic to get our Fleetnumbers down.

Will the free version let me continue playing with my Orca and my Hulk (two accounts) or will I be limited to shittier ships unless I pay or something?

I'd like to play more but I don't want to pay, and I don't want to not have what I already have

(I luv mining in eve, dont ask me why…)

If i'm not mistaken, F2P can't skill higher than Destroyers.

I just logged on, it wants me to pay for basically everything

into the trash it again goes

good riddance, miner scum

Well, what do you expect? They want paying customers, there is no other viable way to monetize a game like EVE Online. Skins don't work in this game because most of the community is adults, not kids who get excited about flashy colors.

I'm sure they could sell skins and shit to the Highsec whales but that in turn would cause people to grief them and lead to endless bitching.

There already are skins. It is not nearly enough profit for them to cover the cost of paying employees and covering Tranquility.

Economy of their country depends on them.

You can get a PLEX in a good day of exploring.

In fact plex trade is really advantageous for devs, because they sell plex for double of subscription price.

I'm always paranoid when exploring in low/null sec.

When someone enters the system I get anxious and feel like getting hunted, or if someone who is supposedly afk is actually cloaked near a relic/data site ready to pop me.

The limits to free players are so strict that it's better to just subscribe to the game, I have a friend that played for so long that if he wants to play again today he would have to resubscribe and I'm in the same boat to.
F2P players are restricted to just small frigates and destroyers and only small weapons and utilities.

And I think people have lost skills since the launch of F2P, when I last played I had the skills needed for the Hulk mining barge, when I logged back in to check the F2P shit, I couldn't run it or one of my battlecruisers.

I'm a carebear and I don't give a fuck, it's maximum comfy.

As a F2P (Alpha Clone) You can only fly 21 ships, you get "normal training speed" and your skills can only be queue'ed up to 24 hours what it also doesn't say is your stuck with only small turrets you can only train in a handful of the basic skills. So it fact it's not f2p as per usual, you're just playing a demo.

If you are interested, the entire soundtrack for EVE Online is on Soundcloud.
soundcloud.com/ccpgames/sets/eve-online-in-game-tracks

Basically endless trial with even less skills.

A sub is $15, a PLEX is $20

community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/inception-1-5/?utm_source=launcher_motd&utm_medium=launcher&utm_campaign=

New devblog.

tl;dr they got too many bad boy points and everyone formed a coalition to contain them.

If mittani and other leadership in goon were intelligent, they'd have never had WWB to begin with.

Even so.

Very much so, I've had an account for a long time and when I last played 5 years ago the last thing I had did was buy a caldurcky battlecruiser that CCP had just released that was supposed to be more a gunship than missleboat like everything else Caldurcky.

Also forgot to add two things,
First they changed some ships secondary bonus stats, my biggest example(gripe) is the Calderi Osprey, used to be a good mining frigate if you didn't want to invest in a barge, even had stats for mining. Those got stripped for ECM warfare because they made a strict mining frigate.

Then they changed rigging to where you can only place a certain number of hardpoints on ships now despite have so many damn slots on the rigging screen. To many of my ships got gimped.

Skins don't work because CCP is full retard about their implementation.

If they turned it into a community driven system that allowed players to create whatever they wanted, it would be crazy popular. There are ways of monetizing that which CCP have ignored in favor of their overpriced bland craptastic skins.

All they have to do is buy the license for the chink server skins because those are good. Probably because the fucking chinks understood that making vanity cosmetic items sold for real money look good is more important than making them 'muh lore' friendly.

No, that won't solve the issue. Here's how to do it the correct way:

Every ship has a couple of default "canvas" options. One free (default), the other couple you pay CCP's ridiculous $30 pricetag for.

Anyone who wants to make a skin buys a SKIN creation kit license from the aur store. This lets you make skins for every canvas option for every ship in the game. Players start making skins they like, using each canvas as a baseline (each canvas limits you to certain materials, shaders, colors, etc.)

Player-made skins are sold either through the regular market (will require some adjustments due to so many differences), through contracts, or via some new system. These skins will be bought sold for isk only. No aur.

However in order to use a player-made skin, you have to buy the baseline canvas for it first.

CCP gets to double dip, extracting money from both the skin creation kit and the canvas via the aur store. Plus whatever fees remove isk from the economy when skins are bought and sold in the market. GUARANTEED to make CCP more money than their current implementation. Also satisfies the itch players have for both awesome skins and personalized ones.

There is only one significant drawback: It requires CCP giving up any sort of "lore" pretensions on how ships look. Although they can still control the color schema of a canvas to prevent hello kitty ships, similar skins are going to be made regardless.

Secondary drawback involves CCP not giving creators enough freedom with the creation kit to do anything particular awesome; without the freedom to make good skins, it won't take off, and the entire endeavor will fail.

tl;dr CCP suck dick at monetizing skins and a shut-in neet came up with a better monetization scheme in 15 minutes than they've managed in 2 years.

I'm playing the shit out of it, OP. Even got a PLEX that I'm saving for the coming holidays.

cue everyone making swastikas or pink dildo ships.

The only people who get offended by that are goonswarm SJW morons

have you seen the lead designer?

Oh, is CCP cucked too?

What a shame.

If you guys start up a corp I might actually be able to enjoy this game for a change. Please do it.

lol yeah. A swedish relationship hacker who coined the term "relationship anarchy".

So… I guess there is no medieval Eve where I can play as an orc merchant walking arround?

Just go and hang out in the Holla Forums BROS channel, it's mostly halfchan /vg/ and krauts in there but it's chill. Most of Holla Forums corps failscade after a month or two because half of people is shitters who get bored of getting shat on and the good ones inevitably end in some big powerblock.

Does the F2P do anything differently than the trial version of old? I want to be able to buy a mining barge and mine space rocks without hitting the paywall that is F2P.

F2P is even more limited than old trial, you can only fly your racial ships cruiser and down, venture and gnosis. Also no T2 guns and limited drone skills.

Well fuck, guess I'll just go play Runescape instead then.

Does anyone want meet up for lowsec pvp?

The alpha restrictions aren't even close to what you're describing, alphas can fully fit and fly cruisers with any tech 1 module you would reasonably use on them. Meaning an alpha can be viable in almost any fleet composition.

I'm not saying meta fit caracal or thrasher can't be useful, I'm saying that the restrictions are worse than old trial. The racial lock alone is shitty.

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That carried over to the Star Citizen forums. Last I checked folks were informing the populace about the trouble with goons and how to deal with them. If the game comes out, I'd be surprised if they manage to amass a significant powerbase.

I guarantee the moment a woman is no longer lead designer and is replaced by a fucking white male is the moment eve actually starts being fun.

Why would I want to play a game thats literally real life? Where I have to work my up over years just to get the prestige to order other players around?

Doesn't even sound fun. Sounds like you come home fromy our real job and play a fake job, with no RL return.

Alphas can also equip factional equipment fyi. Not just T1.

ya fuck this im not going back

How has the population been since the F2P run?

Yeah. An alpha could fly a Caracal Navy Issue with Gistum A-Type hardeners and True Sansha missile launchers. Although given the skills available to an alpha that sort of equipment would be wasted on them. Anyone that serious about optimizing their ship would just subscribe.

That said, in the two weeks I've started playing again as an alpha I've amassed 1.5 billion isk and I honestly have no idea what to spend it on so the thought has crossed my mind.

lol no

Tech 1 = cannon fodder

You fly Tech 2/3 or faction or die.

Yes, you can kill people with a tech 1 ship. You'll kill more people, better and faster with tech 2, and it won't even be a remotely close comparison. In many situations where you'll die in Tech 1 ships, you'll have lived in anything else.

Don't kid the noobs around, if they want to be halfway capable in pvp, especially small gang or solo, they HAVE to sub. Otherwise it'll be a non-stop string of fights you can't win and the odd one or two that you can. Taking down a tech 2 ship with a tech 1 basically requires the tech 2 pilot's terminal retardation and extremely skillful play at the hands of the tech 1 pilot.

Same as this idea that eve combat is more than f1 and orbit; yeah it is - barely. For the most part a fight is won/lost based on what your ships were fitted with and designed for before the fight even started. About the only thing exciting about the combat is that you don't know wtf you're doing the first dozen times it happens and you're flailing around with the controls trying to remember everything you're supposed to do correctly.

Then you realize that 90% of your fights literally are f1 and orbit, and 90% of your successes are only because you brought more guys than they did.

I like a lot of things about eve, but the combat system is the absolute worst piece of shit in the entire game. Even boring as fuck mining at least has industrial and economic impacts, and it's little difference in excitement between roaming with a bunch of friends for 4 hours getting 1 ibis kill, and mining with a bunch of friends for 4 hours exhausting a couple belts and murdering a dozen rats.

Eve's combat is absolute fucking ass and this, along with capable ships in general being too expensive for your average person to throw away while figuring it all out, means nobody engages in it.

I agree with that completely.

If only there was a wave of new, unskilled players who only had access to tech 1 equipment for this wave of new, unskilled players who only have access to tech 1 equipment to shoot at.

Nah this is the wow of space games.

Caldari is objectively best State.

I want goons to leave

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I mean, I don't even like the game but seriously man, you must be baiting.

Making corp. Dubs gets to name it.

I'm A Faggot Please Ban Me Corp

Or Shemales Incorporated.

Winrar, kek.

Break down after doing the same shit for a week and buy plex to sell it in jita, then spend the ISK to buy skill injectors, then level your character instead of waiting months to get anywhere.

Fuck EVE the only people who play it are wannabe E-CELEBS and faggots.

What happened, got scammed in Jita?

I've played since the jukebox was a thing.
EVE is an empty shell with niggers who either do not know what they are doing, niggers who sit in station whoring kill mail, Plex and Skill Injectors ruining all balance and game economy.

EVE is the opposite of an empty shell. It's a true living universe most developers wish their games could have, that lacks fun moment-to-moment gameplay needed to capitalize on it. Elite Dangerous is an empty shell - an attractive, polished, momentarily fun facade trying to hide the fact that the systems that appear to drive the game world are scripted and completely beyond player control and that there's nothing meaningful to work towards since player interaction and collaboration is impossible.

If someone sits in a station then go do something else. It's the equivalent of making someone quit in any other game.

Jukebox wasn't that long ago.

It was a decade ago nigger, they removed in 2007.
Eve is empty and is a shell regardless of the content that is there because the mechanics of the game have been irrevocably broken by Plex and now Skill Injectors.

They removed it around 2013, niglet.

Except 2 years earlier.

yea with the release of retribution. why tho?

Because they are no fun niggers.

Because people were just minimizing the game and playing the soundtrack on youtube, or playing their own music on whatever player they preferred.

wiki.eveuniversity.org/Jukebox
EVE Uni has an article about it. Basically, it was a clunky piece of shit.

You could load MP3 and make a station for corp members to listen too.
It was fucking awesome.

this seems pretty fu…………zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Which is why everyone was using other programs.

I've never seen someone so assblasted by something so in-fucking-significant before in my life. Congratulations.

Well would you like me to break down how Plex has crippled the ingame industry leading to out of control Plex inflation, the devaluation if ISK, the collaspe of ingame industry and now the skill injectors leading to even more multibox sub players, which may been CCP intention to boost player numbers.

Nigga I don't care about the game balance just stop being so assblasted about the fucking jukebox. It was shit and no one liked it or used it.

Holy fuck, nigga how much Plex have you bought for you to need to defend CCP at this point?

how the fuck do you go from top left to bottom left? They just switched? Or did they actually conquer it, while loosing their home space?

The only reason you stopped is because you assumed I was talking about PLEX and then whining about PLEX. Don't pretend like you consciously stopped talking about the Jukebox like you thought I'd be interesting in your PLEX whining, you know if I was interested in your PLEX shit I'd reply to the comments you'd mention it it. Faggot I don't care about PLEX, the game, CCP, or anything related to that shit. Like everything's more important to me than EVE Online.

Jesus so fucking assblasted.

Sounds to me the only one who is anally annihilated, booty blasted, buttocks burnt, sphincter shattered, or rump roasted is you.

Wew lad.

Sure thing, you fucking child.

See

oh yeh if you love freeze frame game play.

What Caldari ship has the biggest drone bay?

Caldari frigate*
Sorry.

I believe the Osprey, a cruiser, has the largest drone bay and bandwidth among Alpha-usable Caldari vessels.
If you want to use drones though, go Gallente. The Tristan, a frigate, has 40m^3 of drone bay and 25 units of bandwidth. In other words it can run a full flight of light drones, with 3 backups. And the Vexor Naxy Issue is a great drone boat, although perhaps expensive for a newbie.

I typically run a Kestrel when I hunt rats with 4 light missile launchers, which is about 400 damage. I was wondering what would be the best for Caldari since I just now figured out that drones are breddy gud for defending my venture from belt rats. I learned that the hard way after looking away for 2 minutes and 2 rats came and fucked my ship.

Drones are great for missions and rats.
For being in a Venture against them, what I did was fit 2 Hobgoblins (or 2 Warriors if against Angel Cartel), an MWD for speed tank, some form of proper tank, and some manner of EWAR. This will take out rat frigates and rat cruisers, but destroyers gave me trouble. You'll need to figure out the specifics for yourself though. Not because I don't want to help but only you know what works for you.
Big note though: missiles ignore traverse, so this may not work against missiles. I've only gone up against Serpentis (and players - but not much a Venture can do against 'pirates') with this.

Well, my earnings after killing rats a bit and fitting my Heron weren't that high, only about 100k but I'll see how much lowsec gates will have.

I've managed to get 1mil off a full venture ore hold. Multiple millions if I compressed the ores, moved them into the cargo hold, and kept mining.
Anyway highsec ratting is worthless. Do missions instead.
Do we have a corp?

Someone was meant to make Shemales Incorporated, but that didn't happen yet it seems.

Wew, forgot to turn off sage all these posts.
How do you compress ore?

You do so at a citadel, which has an icon like a rectangle with a stick coming out the top, IIRC. Move your ore into the citadel's cargo hangar, right click and select compress. It might be wise to leave it in the citadel until you can safely come back for it (don't want rats blowing you up with compressed ore in your hold).
Remember to mine the highest value ore possible, too.

I'm in industry. I mine Scordite and Plagioclase. Most efficient since Plagioclase gives Mexallon and Scordite gives both Pyerite and Tritanium.

I part-time it. Sorry about telling you how to do your job, then.
What do you build? I'm waiting on my Venture BPO to git gudder. Then if I can make even more profit off that (doubtful) I plan on getting into T1 Gallente frigate production, among other, largely module, things.
Waiting for BPOs to research with only 1 slot is pain.

I have 2 Condor blueprints and 1 kestrel blueprints. If I have spare resources I build Condors but if I just collected a lot of it then I build kestrels as they cost about 200k more each.
Do wormholes close after I leave them? I just went inside one, I am considering hopping out, buying a Venture and then coming back because I found a TON of valuable ores like Arkonor.

picture, forgot.

They shouldn't close after you leave them. Unless they're unstable.

Show info says no, so I'll try to collect some Bistot which seems to be the most expensive there was. At least I didn't forget to save location like the first time I went to a…
FUCK
Just as I was typing this out, someone either followed me or found this and went inside, meaning if I go inside he's just gonna blow me up.

Turns out it was a industrial ship. I still went inside but when I went to that ore deposit 3 ships came up, I fought one of those once and I don't feel like doing it again.

Also looking at your setup there, a few things come to mind:
Your ship seems to have your name on it, which may pose issues if someone decides they want to know who you are before killing you.
You should also have local be popped out of the chat thing, so you know who's in your area (if in lowsec or nullsec; this has helped me out in lowsec mining), or if someone is talking or even worse talking to you.

Well, that's nice. What was he in?

An Impel.
I was in highsec and I don't do PVP.

Neither do I (much), but when you're mining for zydrine in lowsec you don't get to make that call. And if you're going into wormholes, you should be able to see what people are saying in local (and who they are) at a glance. Between D-scans, anyway.

At least my Heron is close by, hope I can find something as good or better.

Sorry for being lazy, but how much is plex today?

1.1 billion.

Thanks.

Amazing, my launcher won't actually launch the game. This is fantastic.

Close with task manager, try again.

All right faggots, I need some help.
I am playing EVE for the second time now, used to be a high sec miner back in the day, but that was boring as fuck, so I quit early.
Now I am back, and I want to try exploration.
So I went out, did the thing and got my first Heron destroyed after finding my first wormhole.
Death is part of the life of EVE, so I bought another Heron and got it destroyed again. The first time was a player, the second were some things called "the sleepers" or "the awakened". No clue what those are, but they one shotted me.

What am I doing wrong? Are wormholes all really scare and dangerous, or did I just have bad luck? I already got my third Heron now, but I won't be able to afford a fifth one if I lose this and the next one, and I don't want to be forced to do shitty highsec mining just to get another Heron and get it destroyed again.
I just wanna hack shit and sell blueprints man. Why do I always find wormholes? Is 0.7 sec "too dangerous" for a lowly explorer like me, or was it really just bad luck?

I think you just need to know what to do. I personally have no idea what to do.

Sleepers are tough as fuck dudes that you need to avoid at all costs. NEVER even get close to them unless you have the biggest and baddest ships.
Also, make sure to save the location of the wormhole you entered from, otherwise you will just get lost inside it.
Make sure to press F12 and watch the guides.

A-ok. Will try again this evening.
Wish me luck, faggots. Will keep you updated with screenshots.

Good luck, if you want I can send you a few mil for ships.

Corp made, sorry it took so long

Wew you actually did it you madman.

Lot of area to conquer.

Better get fucking working on it, boys. This galaxy is ours for the taking.

Never played EVE, never figured I would. Kinda sorry about that now.
So, in the context of f2p player skills apparently being race locked and such - who the fuck should I roll? Can one of you spaceniggers give me a crash course?

Amar has lasers and giant golden banana ships.
Caldari has missles and utilitarian looking ships.
Gallente have drones, railguns, and weird potato looking ships.
Minmatar was kangs and sheet.

OK, but objectively how fuck am I as a Alpha potato compared to a omega potato? I see that pirate ships are also limited, how much does that suck?

Are we going to make a discord? It'd be helpful for all of us newbie chucklefucks.

You can train the basic drone skills to IV or V, and drones itself to V. The heaviest drone you can use is Medium.
So compared to an Omega potato you're pretty nerfed when it comes to drones. And as you can't use T2 weapons or ships, weapons and ships as well.
Still, you're gud enough that you can contribute and make at least a little money plying the space lanes.

You can make a shitload of ISK with a Heron and basic scanning skills, but you have to know which sites to do - in WH space the only sites you should be going to are the pirate data/relic sites, everything else has sleepers and other shit that will instapop your heron.
Also afaik wspace pirate sites are exactly the same as nullsec exploration sites, so usually there isnt a huge amount of reason to go into wspace for basic exploration. I'll pop through WHs for some quick scans sometimes, and WH diving can be useful if your normal route to nullsec is blocked off, but usually just running routes through low pop null is more efficient in isk/h than dealing with all the bullshit of navigating wspace.

if you need any more info just let me know

t. explorer pro

The only people that say its worth it are the very people who spent literal years playing it and need to justify their habit

You will spend a full year looking at your character model chilling in his/her living compartment leveling the many skills required in order to have a miniscule amount of fun doing one of three things: fighting, mining, or exploring. After this is accomplished you will likely go through a series of corporations that suit your taste. You have now reached the point in which you get to the "meat" of the game, you will grind the shit out whatever your corporation tells you to do, and stack ISK (The games currency.) to pay the subscription because paying 20 bucks times the number of alternate accounts you probably will have is pretty fucking expensive. Suddenly, another corporation seeks to expand and take some of your resources and property away from you, so then go to war. In this war, you will see every bit of work you put in go down the drain when you get ganked by a war party, or fight in the giant battles that take place.

War's over, back to grinding.

This is Eve Online, a game that you will waste years worth of your life on, maybe becoming a popular figure, just to crawl into bed at 5:00am in the morning after a long night the average dude you are.

It isnt worth it.

Go ahead, read the bible long lore this game has to offer. After that, sit and think about how terrible the factions are, and how most of them are evil as shit and totally unlikable

For anyone thinking that Free to Play is just useless after a certain point I have one thing to say:
Play the market. If you know actual economics you can apply that knowledge to the game and use it to your extreme advantage. Speculation and Margin Trading are all things you can do in the game.

It's really fukn stupid when people call this game "spreadsheets in space". They're really just tables.

Just don't station trade in Jita. Hell, region trading between between Jita and Amarr prime, like 5-6 jumps between then, is more profitable for a newbie and that's the most used trade route in the game.

Surviving as an explorer in a wormhole requires proactive intelligence gathering on your part. The first step is to make sure your overview is un-fucked by downloading a custom preset. Make bookmarks of your entry point and every wormhole in the system along with a couple of safespots, preferably in locations more than 14.3 AU away from any celestials. Immediately upon entering a wormhole and while still cloaked, you should begin using your directional scanner combined with the system map (F9) to evaluate your situation. Note the number of control towers, citadels, and ships in the system. If your D-scan doesn't reach far enough then warp around to check everywhere. Adjust the angle and range to narrow down the locations of ships.

If there are any signs of human activity in the system, like ships changing locations, deployed drones/probes, or wrecks appearing, then you need to leave immediately through the first wormhole you scan down. If combat probes appear on D-scan, that means it is no longer safe to remain in any location for more than 30 seconds. You should begin bouncing between random celestial objects and creating safespots between these until the player gives up and stops trying to locate you. If you see an interdictor vessel at any point you should be especially cautious, because he could have placed a warp disruption bubble on the other side of a wormhole. Never follow a dictor through, or try and rush past any ship that is waiting at a wormhole. And if you do get bubbled don't try to burn out of the bubble, microwarpdrive back to the wormhole. If people are committed to killing you it's never a bad idea to just log off and do something else for a day, especially with 400,000,000 ISK in your cargohold.

If you don't see any threat and you've found a good site, warp there and pretend to hack a can with your eyes on the overview and your finger ready to warp you out if someone takes the bait. If no one appears within a couple of minutes it's somewhat sane to begin hacking. If a site is called "covert research facility" you can afford to make one fast attempt on one can in the site before promptly warping out. If you fail a can twice or you remain there for longer than about 60 seconds you will die horribly. However the cans will have vastly more valuable loot than most sites so you should take advantage of these.

It is more efficient to use wormholes as a method of transportation rather than a source of income. Nullsec systems have a higher proportion of sites you can run but fewer sites overall making everything faster, they have gates so you can survey dozens of systems per hour, and they're infinitely safer for obvious reasons. After being in j-space, nullsec will feel like highsec to you. But nullsec entrances are usually gatecamped, so wormholes become the safest way in and out.

lmao "le swede face"

You know, I think your problem stems from the people are horrible concept.

I agree, people in EVE are complete and utter assholes. And it makes finding friends and people who won't backstab you a much more valuable experience.

For instance, I was mining in a venture in some 0.5 sec space belt or something when this random guy warped in and saw me not move. I never even spotted him, so he started talking to me, gave me a million ISK and told me to watch myself.

I've been ganked 3 or 4 times now, and each time I only lose 30 or 40 minutes of progress. Most of that is the annoyance of making sure you have enough equipment for rebuilding your ship and flying over to get that. Just don't fly anything you can't afford to lose?

I dunno, I'm a scrub, I fully admit that. But one day I will get back at all the random gankers that ganked me and my bud for no reason. A little justice and honesty is gonna go a long way in EVE.

I'm already making mad bank in EVE by selling services and tying in real world skills, if you guys are complaining of losing progress? You're doing something wrong…

I'm curious what real-world skill you're leveraging ingame and what you're advertising it through. Any suggestions?

We have been like you. And like us, you will learn that every victory ingame is a pyrrhagic victory in real life.

I have spend 3 years battling against the CODE. That was 3 years absolutely lost forever.

/civ/ did that when thier "political" Minecraft server started going to shit.

Were you retarded during those three years?

Well duh I played EVE.

I'm a shitstain at this stuff, what do relics look like? How do I find them? I can't find them at all and the damn probe shit is impossible for me.

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He's camwhoring and hoping to break in the actual porn market as a bullfluffer.

Search Relic Site containers.
I'll assume you know all of the controls. How to move the center of your scan stuff, how to make the bubbles bigger or smaller. As well as needing to make the bubble smaller the closer/more orange/green the site gets.
Hence, my biggest advice if you know the basics is, unfortunately, git gud.
You just need to practice. Try scanning down (the very few) highsec sites for practice before you seriously go after lowsec or nullsec sites.

Guess you were just playing it wrong laddy.

When i started i was as retarded as you, joined the first corp that took me without checking what they were doing, joined corpmining and all that shit until i stopped playing after a month.

When i returned i joined a tiny 12-man Pirate corps of dudes that just wanted some fun, jumped into a T1-frigate everybody can fly within a day of training and had a complete blast for two years until the corp broke apart and i joined a PVP-Alliance in nullsec for another 5 years where i never spent a second of grinding (unless you call shooting at a hostile structure for a bit grinding).

I didn't care when we lost space because the Alliance didn't care. Taking Space was the way to get battles. Losing the space again meant we lost it fighting and would move to another region to fight more.

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Station Trading in Jita can be extremely lucrative, but only if you know your shit and how to manipulate.

this

Even with fairly low skills and capital it can be very fucking profitable if you are willing to chink it up and update orders as fast as possible.

First advice would be to bind probe scan range increase/decrease and scan to like z/x/c or somewhere easy to hit, it will make scanning a lot less of a pain in the ass.

Use the pinpoint formation for everything, the others are pretty much useless. When you first find a signature, just center the probes over it so that roughly the whole red area is inside the center of the formation, and then just scan > center probes on new point > scan until it shows the site type in the signatures window. If it's anything besides data site or relic site, you will probably instantly die there in a heron.
Also, when you are scanning something down and it shows multiple possible locations, like a red circle or two red points, 99% of time it will be in whatever point is furthest away from the center of your probes, so just focus on that one and keep going down.
Once you get to a data/relic site its pretty simple, just fly up to each can an target it with the analyzer to play le hacking minigame. You have two tries before it explodes, and I think failing the first try destroys some of the loot inside but I'm not sure. as far as the minigame goes:

Centering the probes to the point is a complete bitch to do, by far the most problems I have is with that.

I can't understand how anyone really enjoys this. I played it for 3 or 4 months back in college, and it just felt like a giant waste of time and money. It was simply dull and boring. Even with some corp and people who had tons of money and knew what they were doing, exploring wormhole space and all that shit. I witnessed a couple guys ragequit and have the worst, most ridiculous meltdown ever experienced because they lost some super pricy ship and goods, etc.

If I'm going to invest time into something, I can't understand why I'd do it with this. It just isn't fun, especially not for 15 a month.

my method

fastest method I can find, but still just gotta practice

Well I got shit to do tomorrow and it's late so can't try today, but I'll try tomorrow.

There's a special version of the game that can fix all these problems
It's called EVE Online: Alcohol Edition
No one plays this game sober

this

also EVE Online: Opioid Edition

You can only queue up skills that begin within the next 24 hours. You can queue up a skill that takes several days to finish, but only as long as that training starts within that 24 hour timeframe.

Alpha's are good for Faction Warfare and fleet fodder. What one of the most important roles in a fleet? Tackle, and they can do it.
Eventually you'll end up being Hero Tackle and snag a capital ship and everyone in the fleet will love you.

Fuck no, especially if you have a real job.

EvE brings back good memories, i stopped playing when they brought out skill injectors. The hole Iron Bank perfect character in 1 day thing put a lot of old players off.

The people i play vidya online with today are the people i met on that game. i join a mainly american indy corp that had two EU players in it, also been EU time zone we became good friends.

after some mouths we decided we wanted to start our own corp together and with the blessing of the CEO me made our own corp.

Since then (years ago) the same 3 of us have run 3 corps 5-6 if you count the corps we help found from our members that did the same.

over the years our initial 3 core leadership turned into 6 with 7-8 or so leaving and coming back. we have all stopped playing but its the same bunch of bros i talk to on comms and play vidya with.

in that time iv met 1000's of people from members of my corp to alliance we had and corps we have been at war with and later on ended up teaming up.

over the years we have done indy in hi and null (null with one of the big Colations), Hi war decing corp, a transport business in all secs, W space in a c3 and ran a small alliance in low sec.
the last one was the most fun ans the transport business made the most isk by a fuck load.

in between our 3 (main) corps we did just about everything else.

the game has gone to total shit now pulse the raw hate is gone.
been on one side of the blob war there used to be a burning hate for the faggots on the other, and that fueled the first 2 great wars

Oh almost forgot. was in the first 4chan EvE corp Autistic Sharks: evemaps.dotlan.net/corp/1883361966

it didn't end well.

Care to share the strategy, user? In the same time I made only 60 million exploring/mining and already spent half of it in shiny stuff.
I want to become a space jew, dammit

I'll give it a try. I want to be a space trucker.

There are certain areas of nullsec that have very dense exploration sites. These areas are usually populated so you want to run through them when the holding alliance is asleep, depending on their country. If you're in the US try Russian-held space in the late evening. I think Sansha and Blood Raider sites are the most valuable since they drop armor plates and single-crystal superalloy I-beams, so try to find sites in those regions. I'm not gonna share a specific region but if you just go through wormholes randomly you're bound to end up in an ideal place eventually.

Actually it's Angel sites that have the I-beams, Blood Raider sites are just average.

Have bigger corps finally realized the value of tackle noobs?

For the love of God, don't do this.

It didn't put anybody off, are you retarded?

Literally nobody gives a fuck that someone with tens of thousands of USD worth of isk he got from RMT went and made a fully leveled character in one day just because he could.

The actual problems revolve around the game in general being boring as fuck to play. It's like Elite Dangerous was given more depth but the small amount of fun was sucked out in exchange. There's a lot of things that need to be changed or added to the core gameplay to start making eve fun, but doing so would upset the saltyvets who LIKE the shitty gameplay design.

Basically all of your issues have nothing to do with the actual problems with the game and are just you being a fucking retard.

Interesting. I'm planning to move to a nullsec corp later this week because the hisec one I'm with now seems to be pretty much dead. I'll have access to better stuff there then, I suppose.

Well, I was mining because I was planning to start my career by building and selling T1 ships and stuff.

Anyways, I do it mostly at my office, where my shitty job laptop can't really handle anything else from that game.

That's actually… acceptable I guess. Mining is never more than a mindless distraction and most people who claim to be hardcore miners are actually just botting in highsec.

I'm not a Goon so no.

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I was in Goonswarm for a while, via an allied corp. They were alright, as far as autistic neckbeards go, and happened to be much less stuck-up than the average SA goon these days. It was actually fun to go on Fleet Ops as a noob. Yea, I had fun in EvE, sue me.

lol no

Goons got wrecked in EVE. It was the only thing they had going for them and it's gone.

Yea even Reddit made fun of their loss afterward

To be honest reddit corps like Pandemic are actually pretty decent and organized.

CVA has as far as I know. Thought we are part of Amarr Militia so the Alpha's are free to do Militia stuff while inside the alliance.

Yeah but they're also filled with plebbitors.

They lost their space and took it from the guys living int he south. They had 0 sov for a several month period and were camped into a station every day in Saranen. Eventually their leader saw that they were losing all their members and all their allies were dead in the water so they did the only logical thing and went where the weakest sov holders were.

I thought the pleb Reddit corp was TEST.

There's more than one Reddit corp out there. TEST is one of the major ones.

dead

LAMO
Who plays this? Weekend gamer forum daddys?

If you waste more than 50 hours on a single video game, you're doing it wrong.

Go fuck yourself tbh fam because this game has seen peaks of 65k people and and they haven't even advertised all that much yet.

If there was a rule that only 50 hours of a single multiplayer game can ever be played by a single player, they'd all be dead. That's so fucking retarded.
Also good job shitposting without saging.

Reminder that EvE basically saved the Islandic economy.

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Accounts online*

The game averages 20k to 25k players every day.

Where do you live? EU peak is at 35k.

There's only one server user, that's the general range based on the client player counter.

EU time peak, dipshit.

I am willing to learn how to playAnd even drop money on a subscription if I like itHow good is the tutorial or should I find a third party guide?

Like I said. Dead.

thealphasguide.com
Covers some basic stuff and ship fitting. Do the tutorial first. It teaches you how to do combat, how to fit your ship, how basic movement and looting works and some other stuff. Might take you a bit of time but it's worth it. Make sure to read as well.

oh well EVE Online has been dying since 2003 :^)

I bet there are a lot of confused PUAs out there because of that site.

What is PUAs?

Kek, didn't even notice that.
I found it on
>plebbit/r/eve
and thought it was a pretty decent guide.

Could use google.com, it's pick up artists.
Alpha as in alpha male.

It was never a game that had millions and millions of players, user. It was around tht same number like 2-3 years ago when I tried it out on a trial.

bump fam tbh smh

Hey how are you all do… ZzZzZZzzzZZZzzz

Literally me when trying to get into this game

And not even close to experimenting everything the game has to offer.

thread was close to dying so I decided to bring it back from the dead since I wanna discuss spessships.

How good is a Corax for a beginner alpha piracy/gatecamp ship?

My problem is, I just wanna get high and fly around exploring shit but you need to be 101% focused to avoid camps in 0.0 where all the good exploration shit is.

Doesn't get your heart pumping to escape from a gate camp?
Also, use it nigger. eve-gatecheck.space/eve/

I'm liking the Amarr so far. They're like the Crusaders meets the Confederacy meets Star Wars' Empire. The tutorial for them has the fleet commander talking about purging degenerates and stuff.

Also, everyone hates Space Obama and everyone keeps placing bounties on his head, which made me laugh. It's like a death by a thousand memes.

Degenerates is a line for all the tutorials, at least Caldari has it as well, can't remember about Gallente and haven't done Minmatar.
also
lol

No one actually takes bounties seriously, no one ever really does them.

Also Amarr is the weakest and tiniest faction.

That's Factional Warfare Influence Map, not a territory map. It doesn't even correspond to the faction selection map in the game (first pic) or the space on the map where the NPC Empire territories are.

Amarr is the largest and strongest, although it's difficult to get a decent map because everything is exclusively about Corp territories. Second pic will give you more of an idea. Smallest and weakest faction is Minmatar, due it to being comprised of duct tape and nignog slave runaways.

I wish CCP would introduce a good fucking map. Their old one was shit and their new one is shittier. Just make it a flat map so it's easy to read. People would be fine with that.

You seem to know more then me, where can I read up on Gallente lore? It feels to me as if it was too good to be true, and aren't much different from anyone else. I chose made a Caldari character after my first Gallente since their spaceships look the absolute best and Gallente looked like potatos.

Anyone have any decent in game screnshots?

What to get an idea of what to expect out of the game and i'm tired of youtube videos with useless commentary and intros.

Screenshots don't describe this game. Unless you like excel spreadsheets.

Hours upon hours of confusion and glacial progress, interrupted by a few seconds of awesome high-adrenaline situations.

spess ship

Yeah. I'd like to know more about Eve's lore in general.
Any recommended without spending shekels, of course material?

why not read the wiki?