I just found out about something really retarded. Here in Sweden there is something called "överhyra"...

I just found out about something really retarded. Here in Sweden there is something called "överhyra", which translates into "excessively high rent". Apparently there are some laws against demanding rent over a certain level for apartments. Definitely going to look into this further. Does this exist in other countries and what is your opinion on it? My initial thought when I saw it was it's probably not what it seems, meaning politicians use it for it's secondary effects despite claiming otherwise.

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rent_control_in_the_United_States
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There needs to be more of this across North America because if it exists here, I'm not seeing it. This really should be a major issue.

Why? If people can't pay they don't rent. An owner of an apartment can't just put any price he wants, he puts too high a price nobody will want it, laws of supply and demand. I'm fairly confident there might be hidden agendas with this.

How is this a bad thing? Muslims, Mexicans, niggers, jews, they always find a way to live in expensive places. Only whites get fucking gentreified. Look at New York, London, LA…

I fucking hate your Boomer economics. Apartments are prisons

that's not a law in an internationalist society you fucking moron

The analogous American concept is "rent control." Look up what Thomas Sowell has to say about it in his "Basic Economics." That is everything you need to know. Rents can only be "excessive" if governments intervene too much in housing markets.

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I don't have an argument, I just thought instantly there's going to be secondary effects of that policy. That's me being influenced by Economics In One Lesson by Henry Hazlitt. That book might have something to say about this, I will read the whole thing and see if it does, I've only read a few chapters.

Thanks a lot, definitely gonna look it up. I've heard about that book, will read it. Do you know how it compares to Economics In One Lesson? Also, can you perhaps give a quick rundown on what it says about rent control?

Sowell's intro books (Basic and Applied Economics) are more of a series of case studies in Economics than a true textbook or scholarly work. They are quick reads and excellent nonetheless.

And what happens when everyone is doing this then and working together to keep down anyone that tries and breaks from this? The jews have fucked over many people this way.

Oh and basically it points out the rent control is terrible for the real estate market, the property owners, and, ironically, the renters themselves. It essentially creates a war between landlords and tenants to try to create conditions shitty enough to make the renters move out.

Once you realize that kikes control the city planning boards, you'll come to understand that they encourage sprawl, which discourages building affordable, efficient housing developments.
The same kikes own a majority of the property.

As sad as it may seem, a majority of people should be living Megablock structures within the city.

Housing/rent controls are a mechanism that (wrongfully) protects a city or township from a housing bubble. It artificially alters the market and misrepresents land value and forces standardization and stability, but in doing so, actually makes it less stable overall. It's a bad practice, from what I can remember

No they aren't. The issue with housing/rent is a requirement for people to have. This makes the utility very high (whatever it costs) and in turn it does not lend itself to a free market system if the landlords ever get together to set minimum pricing or to do anything other than compete against eachother. There are entire towns where 80%+ of the apartments are controlled by one guy, in those scenarios even if 20% have reasonable prices, they will just have Mr. 80% using all the extra cashflow he's making to lobby for migrants and housing subsidies to bait the other 20% into taking thereby making low-cost housing synonymous with high crime.

Yes
Jews corner rent markets
The solution is to corner jews into ovens

This. That nigger lays things out nicely.

Profit

I helvete heller..
Överhyra om man heter (((Wallenberg))) i efternamn då eller? För det är fan efterblivet högt nuförtiden

Vad ligger den på? Och breva gärna en källa

Or if the Chinese government manipulates its entire economy and chinks flood your country to buy up real estate to hide their money in.

Don't be dense. His point was that supply and demand regulate prices much like gravity regulates you not drifting into space every time you jump.

This law is the reason that Sweden has a so-called "housing crisis".

In a free market, the price of rent is determined [mainly] by:
1) Location
2) Supply against Demand
3) Wealth in the city
4) Time you're willing to search for an apartment

In Sweden, the government controls who gets an apartment with a housing Queue. If you want to move to, say, Stockholm, you'll have to register with the city beforehand and wait in the housing queue for 7 years. When it's your turn, you'll get an apartment at a good price.

In - for example - New York City, if you want to move there, you call a apartment broker (or if you have loads of time, search yourself). You can start finding apartments and touring them immediately. In no time at all, you can move in, but at a high price.

"Price" is a market factor. It's what people are WILLING to pay and there is nobody but God who can control this. So in order to reduce price, something must give. In Sweden, this is accomplished by yielding time. Consider my points above. Points 1 through 3 are eliminated via restrictive laws. Point 4 is the only one what remains. So the Swedish government forces people to wait incredible amounts of time if they want to move to a city. That is the only way you can keep "price" down.

Some people in Sweden got smart. They realized that some men are eager to move and don't care how much it costs. So some savy landlords listed their apartments on private websites for a high price – much higher than what the government housing queue pays the landlords.

Of course, some Swedish women felt this was unfair. "Why must I wait 7 years to move to Stockholm when this rich man can just move in 1 week because he pays more!!"

So what did the Swedish women do? they put a legal limit on how high you can charge rent, to force you to charge it at the same price as the government housing queue.

So now, if you're a landlord, and you list an apartment on a private website, you are FORCED to keep your price below-market. After listing your apartment or room, you'll get your email inbox BOMBED with prospects because the price is too low and there's literally thousands of people who want to enter the city ASAP and not wait in the government housing queue.

Does that make sense? While I agree with the sentiment that we should take care of our own people, keep rents low – I don't think Sweden is a model country for this.

Let me give you brain food:

If Sweden removed this law, and let private landlords charge whatever they feel like, then where does all of this extra money go?

First saw it mentioned here:
forvaltaren.se/artikel/hyra-ut-i-andra-hand-1
My translation:

Sure that text is about "subletting", and I need to look into it more. After I saw that I just googled "överhyra", and skimmed through the entries that came up, don't remember if I clicked on any of them.
Look here:
google.com/search?q=överhyra

We have rent control, muh civil rights and laws against spiking the rent in some places, but that's it AFAIK.

Cheers

Fuck off with your garbage OPs. Either learn to do it right or go back to leddit, cunt.

It would go into the pockets of the landlords - where else? The primary problem in Sweden is the demented zoning laws that makes it very difficult to build more houses. The skyrocketing costs of purchasing housing or renting on the secondary market has not led to a boom in construction, only to higher housing costs/rents. The end result is something not envisoned by conventional economicists - since the vast bulk of private property owners in Sweden have huge housing loans the last thing they want is more housing since dropping property prices and rental vacancies/drops would put them into bankruptcy. This creates a perverse silent agreement to limit the amount of new construction coming online so that housing costs do not return to normal ever. You foreigners have no fucking idea how cucked and fucked sweden and the swedes are. The worst is that when confronted and presented with evidence of how fucked sweden is the average swedish she-man responds not with "We gotta fix this shit, count me in!" but "Oh shit I have to move abroad do you know any good destination?".

Kikes made sure to end rent control where they could. You will only find it in nog and yid holdovers in major cities like Jew York.
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rent_control_in_the_United_States
Of course it came to bite the kikes in the ass when niggers refused to leave the housing they managed to get into and then pass along their 10 dollar rents in perpetuity to their offspring. So the kike landlords do everything they can to make the properties unlivable to force them out. Niggers don't care so the buildings fall apart, whites leave and pay more.

I think you misunderstand it.

It's a "union"-thing or whatever, protecting people who rents apartments from suddenly being out of a home because they ones renting it out suddenly raises the rent too high so that they can't afford it. Sure, you can take out an initial rent for whatever you want. But then if you want to continue to do so you have to have talks with the "Fastighetsbyrån" or whatever and come up with a decent raise of rent.

It mainly exists so that they can't put people on the streets before the renters get the opportunity to get a new place.

source?

All communists posting in this thread will be executed for treason.

IT would become massive profit for housing owners, which would immediately lure in real estate developers to build more housing - increasing the supply, and lowering the price. Eventually the amount of housing built and the demand will reach a reasonable equilibrium price, which is likely to be lower than even the government price-controls offered. That is how markets work. It sound like what Sweden has is modified Soviet tier communist housing queues. Nothing good about that system. The only way to drive up rents in a functioning market is to increase demand or limit supply. Most places in the US that are fucked are fucked because of limitations placed on new developments by people who have a lot to gain from inflating housing prices (incumbent owners).

That rule applies for SUBLEASE
you cant make money on a sublease

And the reason for this the socialist regime want to prevent peasant swedes from making money on the insane rent difference on communal apartments vs private. it can be more then 1000$ a month for a 2 room apartment.

Government dont want any competition in exploiting the renters.

Consider you guys lucky about your housing market.
medium.com/@matt_11659/matt-barrie-australias-economy-is-a-house-of-cards-6877adb3fb2f

Property bubbles are rampant worldwide.
Especially in China.

This is not a one country issue.
This is the emergence of a global property crisis that is taking hold.
US may be ok though, as you had the bump early in 2007.

God I wish the only issue in my country's property environment was bullshit like gender.
Ours is just terrible because the Chinese bought fucking everything with fraudulent loans from my own fucking country - not chinese banks. The banks here simply ignored it.
Now the bubble is so bad we're really getting to the tipping point of crisis. The entire economy is now focused on maintaining house prices.

Rent is high subsequently.

How much is really Chinese money laundering vs American white flight? Either way it is a demand-driven phenomenon. Owning unoccupied real estate is far from free, especially in pseudo-socialist areas. Are all of those apartments and condos empty?

At least Seattle is building new high rises to improve supply. Most places will fight that tooth and nail to further drive up the value of the incumbent property owners' holdings.

Interesting, any sources? Also, what about an apartment you own? (bostadsrätt) Are you allowed to make money on renting out those?

I dont see a problem with this except that it doesnt solve the problem of Jewish landlords overcharging for land they shouldnt own in the first place.

You do not own a "bostadsrätt". You own the right to lease an apartment from the collective that owns the apartment and the rest of the house. Since you do not own the apartment but only the right to lease you cannot do much without the approval of the house owning collective.

Dude, this has lead to swedish property owners not affording to maintain some properties, not being able to build new complexes when there is demand, leading to people being left homeless.

Also just imagine if you are a swedish property owner and suddenly all your apartment contracts are given to sandniggers by government, then these sandniggers keep ruining apartment with their filthy savage hygiene and dumbass behaviour, then you are stuck with the bill and no way to increase the rent.

Absurdly high rent is a side effect of bigger, more significant problems. Rent control makes one symptom disappear but the issues still remain, while rent control brings its own issues.

Of course there's a hidden agenda.

And on the flip side

All I know is kike governments control the building zoning and thus the supply of housing, which drives prices up to the point where “rent is too damn high” negro becomes a famous a public figure

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