Why Cities and Civilizations fall before they begin

Why Cities and Civilizations Fall Before they Begin

Think of a small town - everyone knows each other - everyone has a reputation that must be upheld. Anti-social behaviours are policed by the community. If you cheat on your partner the community will shun you. If you murder someone the men of the community will punish you. If you steal or cheat members of the community will stop trading with you. The unwritten moral codes of the community combined with the quick dissemination of gossip throughout the community result in a system where people are kept in line through fear of social, physical and financial repercussions.

For millennia large portions of the population have been living in these small groups, from nomadic hunter gatherers to small agrarian villages. In recent times major segments of the population have moved to cities, and have augmented their personal social networks with technology in order to interact with large numbers of people outside of their immediate network. This urbanisation and technological augmentation has resulted in a population who no longer adhere to cultural traditions, morals or ethics because they are divorced from the judgement of the local community.

In a large city, your own community is constantly changing. Being removed from the land and atomised from their family, people constantly change residences. People start new jobs and quit old ones. People start new hobbies and quit old ones. People shop at different stores. Families are broken up and divided as people move for romantic, economic or other reasons. Many people find that as the years go by, their friends dwindle as school buddies move away and are replaced by a revolving door of temporary, unknown faces. For the miscreant, this churn and movement of people provides the perfect opportunity to engage in immoral behaviour. New friends can be made to replace judgemental ones, new dupes selected to swindle.

Adding technology into the mix greatly amplifies a number of these negative behaviours. A promiscuous woman can sleep with hundreds of men by using Tinder, without facing judgement from even her closest friends. A thief can use Craigslist or Ebay to sell stolen or counterfeit goods.

The larger a community becomes, the harder it is to know people. The harder it is to know people, the more difficult it is to enforce moral codes. As community size increases, so does immoral behaviour. Society will attempt to correct these perceived immoralities through legal codes, but they often fail because they are policed by a scant few individuals (as opposed to the entire community) and are simply ignored by wrongdoers just as they ignored moral codes. As times goes on, immorality will increase, state power will increase (as a reaction to increased immorality), societal trust will decrease and more extreme government measures and programs will be enacted to attempt to correct perceived societal shortcomings. Eventually, cities and civilizations collapse as a result of ignored moral codes and an unsustainable increase in negative events, for example broken families, single motherhood, excessive taxation (as a reaction to said negatives), the abandonment of personal responsibility, increased pessimism and self-inflicted social isolation.

p.s. Relating this to Glubb's Fate of Empires, large empires result in the creation of large cities to facilitate 'The Age of Commerce'. These cities increase in size and facilitate the social and moral decline of an empire as morals can no longer be enforced by the people. All other stages are a result of increased immorality. 'The Age of Affluence' is a result of greed and the ability to exploit people without social repercussion. 'The Age of Intellect' is the result of an immoral liberal group and an opposing 'moral' conservative group. The Age of Decadence is the result of increased liberal dominance as people realise there is no consequence for immorality.

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Be a moral despot.

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A moral despot would act to remove cities and replace them with small communities so that the people would police themselves. Every civilization collapses under its own moral decline, which is facilitated by living in cities with thousands/millions of strangers.


Cities and civilizations are the home of the Jews. They can only get away with their swindling in cities. Have you ever seen a Jew in the countryside tending to his property?

Maybe.
But I think Jews drastically exacerbate everything you described, because its in their interest for such to transpire.

Your home is a fucking hole in the gods damned desert, yid. You are a parasite of civilizations. Fucking locust.

OH and since you mentioned Glubb…

Hah, I just saw it… I did all that work on that first graphic and I JUST realized it…

2007

TEN YEARS LATER…
… So where did nearly 10% of the US Jewish population come from?
They came from Europe.
They're fleeing the sinking ship before it descends into war caused by the demographic change/Third-World influx which they created.

On the plus side, that suggests that something like 80% of Europeans Jews have returned to Israel. A heavy price to get it, but perhaps worth it?

Anyway, no, fuck you OP, Jews are a fucking plague, and our civilizations can and will rise in their absence.

Jews are genetically bred to succeed in cities. They make their living as traders, bankers and business owners. When one city falls they flee like rats in a sinking ship to the next city. Thus any traits useful for things like manual labour have been bred out of them.

Eventually their very nature sees them amass wealth and with it power and influence in the city. They are then able to afflict the entire city with their own rules.

The CITY needs to exist for the JEW to thrive. Let the cities fall and the Jew will go elsewhere (it looks like they're already moving towards China)

No they aren't. They are genetically inferior beings that have mental issues which result in a complete lack of conscience. The lack of conscience allows they to take from whatever they come across. It doesn't matter where it is you fucking kike cunt.

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So you agree - Jews exacerbate all the things you cited.
Arguably, in the absence of Jews, cities could well rise and retain themselves.
But in the presence of Jews, they won't, can't.

That's basically all there is to it - all this other shit about how civilization = demise sounds like bullshit m8, we just need to get rid of the kikes.

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No they can't raise and retain themselves. Morality goes out the window and you end up with a society of sluts, swindlers etc. Ending in societal collapse as stated in the OP. Moral codes are policed through members of your community, and a community ceases to exist when there are too many people to actively enforce moral codes.


So their mental illness is of benefit in cities, where their lack of conscience results in them fucking over vast numbers of clueless city dwellers.

Not a matter of belief. It is destroying them with their own numbers. Even with their control of the numbers we are still on top.

Fuck off yid.

They will cease to exist outside of cities because they are physically weak and subject to a swathe of genetic diseases. When the cities go, they will move to other cities like they have throughout history.

Absolutely correct. The Why is equally important however.

When the Jewish mafia started one millenia ago (as written in The protocols of the learned elders of zion), they figured out a way to conquer that was vastly different to the traditional method.

Much like their earlier realisation with money, the goldsmiths discovered what power public trust was, and how to cheat it. They began shaving coins, breaking the ratio of money lent vs money had (which started at 1:1).

The biggest discovery (for them) the goldsmiths had was that cheating wasn't enough on it's own, but being honest wasn't either - because they were not a high calibre of people. They broke free from Nature's intended place for them. That place is various degrees of middle management positions that apply to their talents, not heads of state. (read books by first Israeli settlers to find out much tgey hated their Zionist politicians and deemed them worse than European governments).

Their other big advantage was to discover that Europe's tribes were not inclined to social cohesion, they saw amongst themselves more differences than similarities. The divide and conquer strategy was then improved. If you fund both sides then no matter who wins, you win.
Europeans were however more aligned with nature so the aristocracy was usually the best Europe could produce. They had to be eliminated. The jewish mafia started sowing hate between the lower masses and their highborn elite protectors. Thus the idea of democracy was born.

Then the struggle began between the new despot they had installed or one naturally rose from the democracy they implemented. And he despised the puppeteers and how he was being used.

Pick any person in history who rose to become emperor/king/etc after the nobility was defeated and you will see a lapdog sick of being used. One cannot posses the ego for emperor while being happy to obey a shadow council of lesser men.

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This is why religeon is so important to a society as it gives people a common moral basis. The downfall of religeon in a society is also a downfall of the society itself.

user, you missed the point.
Even with the kiked data, they're still shit.


Eh, well, I disagree.
And Jews exacerbate everything about that scenario.
Do we even have a modern society in the first world which has few Jews that we could compare to?
I don't think we do, which makes your commentary infalsifiable, and thus merely an opinion.

What if we just kill them all instead?
Ya know, 75% of US Jews are in just 3 states, New York, California and Florida.

If you kill your enemies, they can't move to another place and continue to be your living enemies, ya know?

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The most famous betrayal of the Zionists was Napoleon. They would refer and be wary of anyone who would axt like a "Bonapardist" from now on.

Naturally the shadow council (Zionists) needed to divide up the power of government to several very average people. This required more work but was easily achieved after the invention of the newspaper.
People didn't stand in awe of kings back in the day for fear of punishment as much as they were instinctively noticing their betters.
Finally you need to create a whole school of locals - jews won't dare step up until Cromwell. - who together posses the qualities of leadership but are nothing on their own. Ideally they're narcissistic immoral degenerates.
Freemasonry was born or possibly subverted. Seeing how the founding fathers were masons, and weakened English nobility, I'd say it's the former.

In the 20th century Zionists were ready to complete their takeover, or so they thought. Problem was the jews in Europe were quite assimilated and a lot intermarried with the goyum. They even ate pork. This was a problem, but nothing money couldn't fix.

Massive waves of anti-Semitism started, spoken by the goodest of goys and it was intended to push the jews into Israel. While continuing to destroy Europe. See WWI and the Balfour agreement.

It's important to note of course that anti semitism wasn't invented by the Jewish mafia nor was it completely unjustified. But they repurposed it.
In the protocols they brag about how keeping the everyday Jews in the dark for their own good will be best. However if more jews read that book they'd realise they're pawns, not sinless, and above all that their biggest pursecutors are jews themselves.

WW2 was a clear but hidden example of that. In Mein Kampf Hitler talks like Tony Robbins. He was selected by them for it. But he became a Bonapardist and had to go.

History repeats itself because nobody learns the whole truth.

Tl;dr Never ally with the money masters

That 41% will either flee to australia, jew zealand, or isreal if deemed pure enough, and the ones who dont flee will be bred into higher goy golem, but golem all the same. American jews who lack their pass into isreal are simply another goyim slave to the isreal globalist.

You logic is flawed, because the same can be applied to whites and blacks once white numbers are small enough.

Not so sure about that…

Why do you think all US presidents are descendants of European nobility?

Wtf. Triggered.

Oh fuck off. If your enemy has a gun, you don't ignore it and proclaim that his bullets will be struck down by the gods. You take that into account and adjust your strategy accordingly. Kikes are a deeply inbred group of scoundrels but they do have a higher average intelligence than historically agrarian populations. They also have a very strong in group identity. It's just another weapon that you have to take into account when dealing with them. If you want to win you don't want to underestimate your enemy just as much as you don't want to overestimate him.

No that part is questionable as they don't allow representative samples to be taken from their population with regards to IQ or almost anything, "da Nazis did surveys goy".

That has been the moral inclination of Whites since antiquity. Only the inferior argue otherwise.

This is the real reason for your thread, isn't it MGTOW.
You even made it a separate paragraph because you couldn't quite let it become lost in all the filler you added.

Cities have been the historically cesspools of all peoples. At the very least they should be limited in size. No matter how hard you try they materialize everything around them, worst of all being the culture they came from completely bastardizing it.

There's a good argument to be made that only certain individuals that need proximity to do their profession should be allowed to even live or work from them (i.e. scientists, engineers, etc.).

People are moving to suburbs and the cities are becoming tourist traps that are pricing out the poor.

The few things you even concretely laid out in OP, other than those promiscuous sluts (who would never date you at any period in your life) are all possible no matter how spare the population, with modern travel. You can have small communities and villages, and unless they are hostile to outsiders (causing other problems) swindlers can settle in a new one.
non jewish merchants exist
non jewish degenerate parasites exist
just hoping it will take care of itself through some small village ideal wont fix it
how about heavy industry? will you force factories to be smaller than a certain size? When America makes its own goods, a small city of over 50k is possible sustained primarily by one or two industries nearby. That would be far too large wouldn't it.
In essence, you are arguing for deindustrialization.
Running from a problem instead of solving it only makes it worse.

Historically villages have been dead set against sluts. Everyone gossips the fuck out in them and shames those who dishonor themselves.

Exactly, there used to be stereotypes about non-Jewish swindler parasites. The old used car salesman and stealership jokes for example. Some of them remain true for many situations.

mhm
so will these potential sluts not have any contact with the internet

I think it's possible to make a better city than we have today, designed around the needs of the people and their wellbeing, instead of (((profit))). For example, cities these days don't really have public squares like they used to. There are some half hearted imitations, but a good square is a bit cultural center for people to relax and socialize without being sold any bullshit. Cities can be a lot better, vid related.

That said, cities will probably always be ground zero for degeneracy but they're a necessary evil it seems for culture and commerce. But one we have to get better at managing properly.

I got news for you about triggers.

They have to go back. This is fucked.

Good read.

For further reading, check out Dunbar's Number.

Everything in OPs post is jewish you retard, how is that saying "its not the jews"? And WTF are you doing posting the high IQ kike meme here?

The US is that sinking ship. Non-whites are far more common in the US than Europe, and non-white immigration is higher in the US than in Europe.


No you don't Shlomo. "Estimating" jewish IQ based on the number of (((nobel prize winners))) is not a statistically valid IQ study.

His life span of empires theory is VERY inaccurate by the way.
In fact, we're in merely the extension of the original civilisations of ancient history. All the "old civs" are memes we agree with today. Many of those societies barely knew they were a distinct civilisation.

I thought it was a pretty good read. Where do you think he was wrong? You're right in that we classify past civilizations differently than they themselves would've, but anything else?

illegal immigration in the EU alone has outpaced ALL USA immigration year by year since 2013
and it is not slowing down

No.

express.co.uk/news/world/922149/Illegal-immigration-EU-plummets-60-percent-Mediterranean-Libya

This looks like a manifesto. I hope I don't see you on the news tomorrow, user.

So they lie right there about the figures for 2015, which were over 1.5 million by april, before summer was full blown. And you expect realistic figures after that once they've had time to resettle them to more remote towns like the one in switzerland that was only a few thousand?

No need to have a pissing contest about it. Regardless of severity, kikes are trying to fuck over every white country through demographic replacement, and we all need to stand up and fight back against it.

Its not though. Jews just exacerbate the conditions OP describes.

Except its not - the percentage of the world Jewish population in the US has only dropped by like 1% since 2007.
Its not the US they're fleeing - its almost-certainly Europe.

I've seen that line used a lot lately.

Good post tbqh fampai

It is though. And even if we accept your incorrect premise, how is "jews make everything worse" saying "its not the jews"?

And nobody missed the point. You are promoting jewish supremacist mythology on Holla Forums It doesn't matter if you say "we outnumber them", you are still promoting their agenda.


Jews aren't fleeing anything, their population in Europe hasn't dropped either. The sinking ship is the US, it is nearly half non-white already. Europe is 96% white.

Requesting the dad and tranny son comic the one where dad sits with a revolver in his hand

I love it its hilarious!

relax

Now it has three parts.

Jews. Way to dance around the issue, OP.

"The symbol of this battle, written in a script which has remained legible through all human history up to the present, is called “Rome Against Judea, Judea Against Rome.” To this point there has been no greater event than this war, this posing of a question, the contradiction between these deadly enemies. Rome felt that the Jews were something contrary to nature itself, something like its monstrous polar opposite. In Rome the Jew was considered “guilty of hatred against the entire human race.”"

Does anybody have that screencap of when that Knights of the Lambda Calculus user came on and talked about how mythology is a way of condensing past information? Also talked about how a singularity intelligence might use that mythology as training data. I used to have the cap, but my last hard drive got corrupted.

I am just reading the paper by Glubb now. This caught my attention as particularly prescient:
What is Trump doing right now? Building a wall! Protecting the wealth of the United States. I wish Glubb were alive today to witness this.
Also note that Jews tend to migrate to follow the next preeminent power. Notice how the Jews migrated to the U.S. and corrupted it with their control of the media. They will abandon the U.S. for another host as it collapses under the weight of foreign hordes.

Cities make everyone close so you don't have to go far to get shit.

Before cities everyone was in the 'ghetto'. Segregating cities from ghettos kept the filth from going into the city - and Jews were largely in the ghettos, not in the cities.

Now you have large 'ghettos' with tall buildings and no cities as previously known.

Cities fall because the ghetto tears down the wall between it and the city. Jews do this through money and usury.

tl;dr It's the Jews.

And people/ghettos surround cities because it gives them protection. The city houses law/legal system.

I live in a small town of 200 people, I have no idea what the fuck your saying, I know all there names and who there realted too but not much else as 25% are under 16 and the other are 25% 60+. so from the 100 people that are in the 17-59 age group I dont care for 50% of them. and of those 50 left we share similar interests but again only 50% of them I actually talk to since we dont agree on everything. of those 25 left I only grew up with 7. so You got 7 people you hang out with.
And no one cares what you do its a dont ask dont tell.

Over-socialization ala Kaczynski. When people don't have to interact with nature (non-artificial, including social law), they imagine the entire conceptual universe works according to their dominant social code.

The 60s were fucked up too, the pendulum swings. Millennials today are the degenerate equivalents of boomers.

Dubs of truth. Millennials are actually worse than Boomers, because the schools still taught actual courses back then and parents still cared about education. Boomers had to make themselves stupid with laziness and drugs as a form of rebellion. Millennials are naturally stupid to the point where opening a can of corn is a major achievement for them.

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That vid. Why?

I'd say it is the opposite and boomers are worse than the millenials. Boomers made the choice to be dumb, lazy, and rebellious while the millenials were born into it and know nothing else.

I vaguely remember it, somebody cut out the part where the "artist" shoves the corn up his/her/its ass or whatever. degenerate performance art.

Yeah, you feel bad for the kid who was born retarded because he can’t help himself.
A man who makes the conscious decision to actively be retarded every day of his life even though he has it in him to not be that way is worthy only of contempt.

seeing skanky celebrities on the internet is nothing compared to the gossip of small-town women
that combined with no welfare for single-mothers would bring women much closer to their pre-modern state

Asia? They'll have a hard time once the west collapses.