HAPPENING: SENATE TRYING TO RAM THROUGH TRUMP'S AMNESTY BY THURSDAY!

What did Trump do? He's been waiting for March 5th to end DACA, barring every other attempt at keeping spics here, and he didn't make the bill that's being debated on now.

This. Also.for 10 years

DACA kids are the most scrutinized group of illegals right now so they don't pose much of a risk

Amnesty is blanket citizenship for everyone. Democrats wanted to use the children of illegals to summarily grant citizenship to not only the children, but to the parents as well. The Democrats claimed there was 800,000 "dreamers" who deserve to be citizens like any other anchor baby.

Trump's plan does several things the democrats hate
it establishes that there's actually 1.8 million dreamers (corrected the narrative)
it ends chain migration, denying amnesty to the family members of the dreamers
it sets the dreamers up on a 12-year process to become a citizen, borrowing from the same process that a lawful resident alien (a legal immigrant who comes over with a job lined up) would have to follow; which means the "dreamer" must maintain a job or education and must not violate any other US laws, or they will face deportation

It's the best short-term solution for the hand dealt. But the key is that border enforcement, including the construction of the great southern wall, must be authorized and implemented, otherwise this is just another Reagan amnesty.

14d chess

Hey kike, Trump's deal isn't actually amnesty. It will take longer for those beaner Dreamers to achieve citizenship than it would a brand new applicant.

It's a great move meant to tear away at the DNC's support base and prime the pump for deportations. Heck, half the original DACA applicants have failed to even renew their paperwork. I'm guessing at most 10% won't wash out of the program.

Yeah it's not great but Trump is taking the wind out of the DNC's sails with this move. He's also being smart and using the media's rhetoric to full advantage - most of the illegal aliens aren't DACA recipients and will be deported anyway.

The fact that you have to call it amnesty when it clearly isn't betrays your shill nature.

Anyone have a stream for the debate?

Trump during the State of the Union offered Democrats amnesty for 1.8 million beaners in exchange for stupid shit. Where have you been nigger? It's The Art of the Back Stab.

Why do we need immigration when automation will eliminate all jobs?

so they can vote

only 800k
only
Yes, let 800k illegals (not even accounting for the issue of the already legal ones here via actual immigration or previous birthright citizenship) stay, which are now legal completely (and so there is no casus belli to remove them) can breed like rabbits and the demographics can shift again. Oh, please do this, then you might realize why Reagan is a piece of shit.
bait
Yes, a wall whose perpose is to deter future invaders is so useful after you've let the invaders in through the front door. You're like the dumbass who sets up a bbig security system, but then opens the front door to a home invader & says "come on in".
without a wall Trump won't survive re-election
implying
I could care less if he is re-elected. A person being elected only matters in so much as they will do for you.
GEOTUS
Confirmed bait or magapede shill.
tl;dr democrats would win every future election (even if both are bad, two sides of the same shekel, I like to think of Ruplicans as people who suck zionist cock and democrats are those who suck globalists. Again, two sides of the same shekel, but if I'm forced to choose between strengthening Isreal and outright killing my kin, I'd choose the prior if no third position opens up).

a…amnesty isn't amnesty w…when trump does it.
Kill yourself

So they can rape your daughters and murder your sons.

Pushing it as if it's good, getting backlash across the board from voters, then rescinding it. He said decision, if you rark the people up you will get what you want.
The Syria bombing was a total load of shit, 6 planes and a few buildings, kike lip service that stopped kikes CW narrative dead in its tracks, which was what really mattered.

trump didn't make this bill
You certain?

14d chess
checked dub dubs

This is likely.

it's nothing till the dust clears…. unless your working in the WH close to Trump none of us here know what behind the scenes moves are being made and that's a fact

Extreme border security overhaul
End of lottery immigration
End of chain migration
stupid shit
What's really important to note is that you're a nigger

amnesty is citizenship
it's literally not. it's saying we won't prosecute you for coming and staying here illegally. they're still foreign nationals, just ones who won't be deported for the crime of illegally squatting in the US. Everything is good in the plan except the granting of citizenship to 1.8 million illegal mexicans proposed in this plan. I'd rather have amnesty if i'm going to chesscuck, at least they don't get a vote.

does it also leave all the other illegals still as target for deportation?

Amnesty means granting them citizenship. Trump's plan would actually cause them to spend more time than a new applicant would have to endure. I know you're Jewish but words have meaning.

You're really put out by this which makes me think it's actually not a bad plan.

Trump's deal isn't actually amnesty.
That's right, it's worse. It's a direct pathway to citizenship.

at least they don't get a vote
are you sure about that?

chesscuck
Oh, and you were doing so well.

Don't act, goyim. Wait till they have amnesty, first.

Yes. Someone granted "amnesty" is still a foreign national who is not allowed to vote in US elections.

There is no "grant" of citizenship though, you're intentionally misusing words.

A "direct pathway" which puts them behind applicants which apply even a few years from now? Why are all your arguments reliant on misuse of our English language?

Oh yeah, because you're Jewish.

HAPPENING: SENATE TRYING TO RAM THROUGH TRUMP'S AMNESTY BY THURSDAY!
TRUMP'S AMNESTY

lel. You know how I know you're Shareblue?

In reality the democucks won't agree to any of Trump's conditions and the March 5th deadline will pass with no DACA deal. Because that's how The God Emperor set it up.

They already illegally voted in the last election. How dumb are you?

You don't realize how amnesty actually works. It means no law and order. Legal statuses are necessary. You're actually defending Amnesty International's core belief.

If Hillary did nothing wrong, then why did all of her staff request for immunity?

Yes.

it means no law and order
that's right. If we had law and order, we'd deport every last one.

Kek, a bunch of beaners showed up at Chuck Jewmer's house in the middle of the night a few weeks ago and tried to lynch him because they're so angry at this plan.

Illegals illegally voting is not even remotely on par with giving a bunch of illegals voting rights. stop playing stupider than you are.

Kek

You're asking me this, why? Reported for autism

set up program which includes automatic deportation for anything more serious than a parking ticket
this isn't effectively the same as deporting them all
lol

Democrats say they want to make a deal
citation fucking needed. I don't think I've heard one Dem say that they would be willing to sign this thing if it means funding the wall.

Exchanging our already existing ability to deport them for amnesty when we can just enforce the existing laws on the books, something we haven't done for decades.
He thinks more laws on the books will be followed
Fuck off back to the_cuckold you simple minded faggot.

he thinks the government will actually deport them
Illegals currently get away with shit like DUIs and manslaughter. I'm not talking not being deported, I mean, not even charged fairly. You seriously think they're going to start deporting people for parking tickets if they don't deport them for DUIs?

This too, the Dreamers will see this as a betrayal by their DNC patrons.

<reee i will mention reddit because i've been BTZFO so hard
You realize that only Shareblue even distinguishes between subreddits, don't you? You might as well post with a yellow star.

Obama's rules, which aren't in effect any more, somehow reflect poorly on Trump
Deportations are way up, Trump isn't cooking the books by counting people turned away at the border any more.

and how many of them do you think are actually gonna make it the whole 12 years without fucking up and actually becoming citizens? my bet is less than 20%

American raised illegal immigrants.
If you have to have immigrants, why not have ones that are already Americanized rather than some African, South American, Middle Eastern or Asian shitters selected by mouth breathing missionaries and brain dead selection offices?

These people are culturally Americans, even if their parents are not.
N-NO DARKIES IN MUH 'MERICA!
Too late, bitch.

breitbart.com/big-government/2018/01/20/luis-gutierrez-ill-help-build-offensive-border-wall-daca-fix/
breitbart.com/video/2018/01/26/schumer-agreed-fund-border-wall-next-impossible-build/

Americanized
wtf does that even mean?

a bunch of "people" who speak poor English and wear Mexican flags and identify as Mexicans are "Americanized"
Ask me how I know you're a kike…

He can't make bills, he's not a legislator, dumb nigger.

if you have to have immigrants
we don't have to have immigrants, how fucking cucked are you m8. America's history includes very long stretches where we don't allow any immigration at all, to allow the ones who came here legally in the previous open window to assimilate or gtfo.
unironically defending the importation of mexicans
you just outed yourself, Pedro.

That's the point

Skin this fucker alive.

How many illegals commit crime right now and how many are deported? If the numbers aren't identical, don't fucking talk down to me like ICE will start deporting people for parking tickets.

The amnesty plan was crafted by the White House.

Hit a nerve did I? I'm still waiting for anything to actually happen. Shareniggers like you can keep trying to blackpill, but anyone that has triple digit IQ knows Trump isn't this predictable.

There is no law and no constitution anymore. We have to have civil war in our lifetime. Until then, what if (theoretically and for entertainment purposes only–not suggesting or encouraging any illegal behavior of any type) mobs went out with lists ranking the biggest employers of illegals–the owners of businesses and/or top executives–and dragged the employer individuals out of their homes and shot them?

Make it so if you even look at an illegal as an employer, you don't know if you and your family will live through any given night. When the raids at night happen, maybe they could be done with overwhelming force (surveillance/recon in advance to pick an opportune time) to make sure everybody in the employer individual's family dies in the most brutal way possible?

These are all theoretical ideas for entertainment. I'm a pacifist, and everyone on here should be a pacifist just like me.

It's not amnesty though, it's a long path to citizenship with many strings attached all of which lead to automatic deportation.

The fact that you have to misuse words to make your point is rather telling.

It's not amnesty though, it's a long path to citizenship
that makes it sound even worse

It is amnesty. Also, laws already say illegals should be deported and they haven't done it for decades. More laws saying the same thing won't change a thing. You're just a Trump dick sucker and you're trying to fool people much smarter than you into fall for the kike's amnesty. It won't work schlomo.

It doesn't matter what the fuck anybody calls it.

There is going to be war in our lifetime. Probably soon.

unironically defending citizenship for 1.8M illegals
the absolute state of torposters

You're talking to the wrong person. That TOR person above me isn't me.

It's two different people.

Faggot pol mods banned me for telling them they are weasel fucks, which they are.

That other tor guy is shilling for amnesty. He is a fuckhead.

shareblue boogyman
Look, the way you use that card is to put down any discenting opinion and to change board culture. It's a fact that the reddit as a whole is shit (just due to how it does things), however, the main plague that it brings to this board in particular are people who crave a cult personality (i.e. the_donald). You're effectively saying that: "What? White skinned people are the issue. Specifying that it's jew makes you XYZ".
As for this thread: Facts:
There are two issues, nonwhites who are legal & those who are illegal. Those who are here legally (either by actual immigration or past birthright citizenship b.s. or military service), at present can't be removed (I only say this cause I don't see the 4th reich happening any time soon). However, we can still taken the illegals. There are two issues with illegals, their entering and those existing here already. The wall will keep the ones trying to enter from entering (really, you don't need a wall. That's just some bullshit. You just need the existing laws to be enforced/be willing to gun down invaders). As for those who are already here, granting citizenship makes it impossible to deport them (as I've already stated, you no longer have the casus belli of deporting them since their main crime of being illegal has been pardoned). If you grant them amnesty (presuming this doesn't include voting rights and you also remove birthright citizenship), then the more direct issues (with regards to politics) that illegals bring are avoided. However, because birthright citizenship is removed (and just due to the fact that they would remain) racemixing would be pushed at an all time high. After a sufficient amount of time, all those "illegals" descendents would be able to vote due to becoming mestizos, thus, having a demographic majority, they would control the future of this nation.

Deportations can already occur (and precedent exists via Eisenhour/Ike). Also, the granting of citizenship wi

It's not amnesty
HOW MUCH IS TRUMP PAYING YOU TO SHILL HERE NIGGER?

i know, torposts get lumped together, i'm talking to the other torfag shilling for citizenship like it's some sort of 44D chess move.

Whoever is is a fucking piece of sht and is not me.

I am only torposting because mods banned me after I pointed out how they are complete pieces of shit.

NONE of this shit is acceptable. There WILL be war in our time.

I (theoretically/for fun) say what if squads started dragging out the employers of illegals and shooting them. Kill their families, too, to send a message.

inb4 someone calls you a kike for breaking down the truth

somehow Obama's hand-tied ICE is Trump's ICE
The media has articles every day about new deportations of some poor fucker, they're incredibly ass blasted that Trump is actually deporting illegal aliens.

It is worse, for them. It's designed to wash out many of the DACA recipients.

It's not amnesty though, it's a long arduous path to citizenship which will take a long ass time. Another thing is that they'll all have to register with the government, which puts them on a list.

It matters what people call it, obviously, or else the nigger shills ITT wouldn't be intentionally misusing words to spread their blackpills.

reee I don't like anonymous posters on an anonymous image board

It's not amnesty though, learn your English pablo.

trying to go full retard
<I-if you're not a full Nazi you're a cuck!
Hi JIDF.

I'm not you because I can use our language properly, you keep saying amnesty when that's not what Trump is proposing.

Kill yourself. Enemies like you need to be shot.

25 billion in border security

Should be childs play to get the left to hound their senators into not voting for it.

Just get out of here.

Nobody wants to hear your shit.

We have to have a war. There is no other way. Blood needs to be shed.

reee I can't use English so I'll get extra extra mad!
You're a shill, just admit it.

ICE deports some criminal immigrants
therefore all criminal immigrants will be deported
If the number of crimes committed by illegals doesn't exactly match the number of deported illegals, shut the fuck up about deporting people for small driving infractions.

Stop projecting

I literally want you dead. I want to shoot everyone like you, every piece of shit who fucked this country, right in the fucking face.

That day is coming, bud. Count on it. You will be dragged out and shot. You and your little bitch family. All traitors get shot.

In order to deport 20 million illegals in 4 years you have to deport 13,698.6301369863 EACH AND EVERY DAY.

We could have mobile the military,but instead the US military cares about posturing against Russia and NK, not the US border or what's happening to Europe.

Nah, we just need to have seven more years of Trump, then we get President Mattis.

You're forgetting that in places where illegals congregate, law enforcement is largely handicapped and can't even report illegal aliens to ICE. Truth is, deportations are way up but I agree there could be more. Still your blackpills aren't that palatable, things are moving in the proper direction and it clearly pisses you off.

<i wanna kill you because you're not accepting my blackpilled kikery
go back to sucking Richard Spencer's homo penis you TRS kike

Everybody just arm up.

There's no point in wasting time "debating" bullshit with words. These fuckers debate endlessly while the country is getting fucked. They are trying to distract with bullshit. Same thing with Trump. He hasn't done jack shit to get rid of these fucking Mexicans. Nothing.

No more words bud. Done debating with you.

In order to deport 20 million illegals in 4 years you have to deport 13,698.6301369863 EACH AND EVERY DAY.
Obviously the speed of deportation could be improved, but it's already massively up over Obama's tenure.

You never even tried debating, you've just been intentionally misusing words like the Jew you are in a lame attempt to blackpill. You're probably a boomer.

if you're not full Nazi, you're a cuck
Pretty much, yeah. After all, the ideology has one key tenent which are either for or against, that is racial purity. There is no inbetween for racial purity (because what is mixed is mixed, what is not is not). Anyways, just by saying that, one can tell you're either a shill, trollfag, or a magapede. Regardless of which you are, you're not welcome here.
As for my previous post,
Sorry about the last line, I type in notepad & then copy paste.

Of course you want everyone of us dead, kike. You wont get what you want though. None of it. You fucking pieces of shit thought you understood everything. You thought you could cheat the universe. You are all the biggest fucking morons that have ever come to be.

Pic related.

just shoot up a federal building goy
please shoot up a federal building goy
i'm begging you, shoot up a federal building, I'm gonna get fired, goy
The absolute state of the CIA in the current year +3.

cuckchan
go back

that is racial purity
Hitler said it's OK to be a Jew as long as you're only 1/4 or less, we could do a lot better. On the other hand your TRS kikery, the old full retard shillop, is pretty tired. I do hope you'll keep it up though, it's funny to watch and it will radicalize a number of whites. Now tell me about how, actually, Nazbol is the real cool thing to aim for in the future with your basic income.

You're a Jew and your shit's tired.

This is your mind on The_Donald.

says the howdoyoudo.tiff

Why is trump even entertaining the idea of Amnesty? He can send all amnesty supporting politicians to jail.

justice.gov/usam/criminal-resource-manual-1907-title-8-usc-1324a-offenses

Domestic Transporting – Subsection 1324(a)(1)(A)(ii) makes it an offense for any person who – knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, transports, or moves or attempts to transport or move such alien within the United States by means of transportation or otherwise, in furtherance of such violation of law.

Harboring – Subsection 1324(a)(1)(A)(iii) makes it an offense for any person who – knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, conceals harbors, or shields from detection, or attempts to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection, such alien in any place, including any building or any means of transportation.

Encouraging/Inducing – Subsection 1324(a)(1)(A)(iv) makes it an offense for any person who – encourages or induces an alien to come to, enter, or reside in the United States, knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such coming to, entry, or residence is or will be in violation of law.

Conspiracy/Aiding or Abetting – Subsection 1324(a)(1)(A)(v) expressly makes it an offense to engage in a conspiracy to commit or aid or abet the commission of the foregoing offenses.
Penalties – The basic statutory maximum penalty for violating 8 U.S.C. § 1324(a)(1)(i) and (v)(I) (alien smuggling and conspiracy) is a fine under title 18, imprisonment for not more than 10 years, or both. With regard to violations of 8 U.S.C. § 1324(a)(1)(ii)-(iv) and (v)(ii), domestic transportation, harboring, encouraging/inducing, or aiding/abetting, the basic statutory maximum term of imprisonment is 5 years, unless the offense was committed for commercial advantage or private financial gain, in which case the maximum term of imprisonment is 10 years. In addition, significant enhanced penalties are provided for in violations of 8 U.S.C. § 1324(a)(1) involving serious bodily injury or placing life in jeopardy. Moreover, if the violation results in the death of any person, the defendant may be punished by death or by imprisonment for any term of years.

jew
niggers and spics

So we get the wall and cut legal immigration in half, mostly from shithole countries? At the same time we have a 12 year grace period to lick out the dreamers? Sounds pretty good.

this guy

12 year
and what if the next president doesn't feel like doing so?

Why is trump even entertaining the idea of Amnesty?

He isn't. But he wants you to think he is.

mentioning a specific subreddit
Just say 'reddit' or be labeled a shill, shill.

I'm not advocating against an ethnostate, but you have to boil this frog slowly. It took generations for us to get where we are, the social momentum is moving back to the right but if you start Spencering you'll scare the normies and cause a backlash.

You have to out-Jew the Jew, retard.

We've had forever to deport them and we didn't surely this next 12 years will do it!

you'd have to deport 13,700 a day
Ok.

/The_Donald/

That's up to us to make sure that a Democrat doesn't get elected. We're not going to get everything we want in Trump's first term. We have to undo almost a century of kikery.

implying Obama and the Arbusto family are somehow Trump
Oh my sweet summer child…

he isn't
that's right, he's supporting citizenship, which is way worse.

Mind telling me how the one who cares about purity is TRS? If I remember correctly, TRS is the group which would hate on people for "purity-spiraling".
Since there are a lot of TOR posters in this thread (and due to the tone of your post), are you sure you interpreted my post correctly? I'm saying that you have to be full natsoc to not be a cuck (that is the type of post I responded to).
Even if you want your granularity to be equivalence classes of: Asians, Middle Easterns, Africans, South/Central Americans, & Europeans, there still isn't an inbetween, you're either for Europeans mixing or not.

I wonder how he's going to BTFO shills this time

we will provide our enemies millions of new voters but somehow make sure they don't get elected
genius plan

Underrated post!
Notice how the supermarket shills derailed this thread away from this.

Republicans are thinking the solution is to push this beyond midterms. This is probably a show put on for media consumption.
I would be 110% shocked if they make a sincere push for amnesty in an election year, particularly after the (successful) anti-illegal immigration themes of the previous election season.

KILL YOURSELF, YOU KIKE APOLOGIST

nothing will come of amnesty for 30 million illegal nonwhites
Reported.

Most true oldfags here are; remember post number >>11188821

He's supporting a long process which puts Dreamers at the back of a decade plus long line, in exchange for them all signing up on a list and agreeing to be deported if they screw up. He even talked about this being his plan during the campaign.

TRS is a Jewish psyop designed to try to make itself look as retarded as possible, they're Jewish so they're a bit tricky but you can soon learn to see through their rhetoric.

Full Natsocs are indeed cucks, that's just how it is, they actually work against the goal of an ethnostate by invoking all kinds of imagery that Americans have been trained to fear and hate.

It's a stupid plan to be a Nazi even if you like Hitler and think he did nothing wrong. Much better to keep those swastikas hidden and simply invoke Law And Order.

Trump isn't going to leave amnesty on the table indefinitely.

I don't think there is a sincere push for "amnesty" because that's not what's in the plan. The idea is to offer something to the Democrats, who will fail to take it because it includes the wall, and then simply say "sorry too late."

And still nothing has passed, this is why the blackpillers are all losers (because they cannot think like us).

he's supporting citizenship

Nope. He's telling the democucks "I'll give citizenship to DACA spics if you agree to certain conditions that you can never agree to". He isn't supporting anything in regards to DACA, he's manipulating the dems into destroying it with their own hands.

"oldfag" refers to anons who were here before Trump you newfag nuthugger

This

This kills the Bernietards. They'll have to share their UBI carnival tickets with so many more people.

what do you mean 50 million nonwhites?
;^)
signing up on a list
wasn't Kelly supposedly bitching that they couldn't get the lazy 'dreamers' to bother signing up?

It's almost like you deliberately didn't read the article, the OP, or anything else in this thread just to look like a retard

conditions that you can never agree to"

You were saying?

wasn't Kelly supposedly bitching that they couldn't get the lazy 'dreamers' to bother signing up?
Yep which automatically culls them from this program. I heard that about half the original crop of (((dreamers))) failed to renew so far. All according to the plan.

Would be funny if he waits to May 5 (qinco de mayo) to deport them all like nazis were in latin america

this is boomer tier

1.8 million is 1 million over the number of illegals already signed up for DACA. It's to extend coverage to those who never signed up. You'd know this if you weren't stuck in you hugbox over at The_Donald all day.

Kek.
Alsoreminder 1 hiur before shareblue punches the clock
timeanddate.com/worldclock/usa/washington-dc

Looks like overtime today

So much this, also it's a move that will either destroy the Democratic party or turn it into the white people's party.

You mad fat nigger.

so much this
suck start a shotgun you literal faggot

There is no plan to extend coverage, Obama was simply lying about the true number of DACA beaners.

Personally, I can't wait to see these spics kvetch and kick as they get deported like their nazi forefathers.

So much this
/reddit/index.html

You mad fat nigger.
Shareblue on suicide watch

timeanddate.com/worldclock/usa/washington-dc

FUCK DROLFHAND PRFUUUUMPF

this doesn't extend coverage
it just includes more people
Why not just use Obama's fake number then? Why include more people if even Obama didnt?

implying I'll have daughters
All my sons (genetic selection) will bully spics in school, and abuse them on the streets.

Trump drives a wedge between DACA beaners and the broader mass of illegals
media has been shilling for DACA beaners exclusively
now media and kikes and Democrats will have to choose between the two and cement the wedge
DNC fractures further
It’s actually brilliant.

You were saying?
Pretending that spic is sincere
Pretending the rest of the democucks would give Trump the wall in exchange for DACA when they have specifically refused to give him the wall in exchange for DACA

Nice try. Trump knows the dems want open borders. That's why he's "offering" DACA citizenship in exchange for border security and immigration reform, two things the dems can never agree to.

We had an user here that worked on the white house…

They were included, it’s just that the Democrats were lying so the public thought there were fewer Dreamers than there actually were. Don’t blame me when functionaries, media kikes, and the rainbow hued DNC lies.

Grandpa, it's time to go back to
/qresearch/index.html
or wherever the fuck the current boomer containment board is.

Notice how the (((anti-trump))) shills are ignoring these points.

spics will still vote dem

Shills will hang soon, the NSA knows who they all are and that they’ve been taking foreign money and direction.

13000 sealed indictments.

Yes but there will be far far fewer of them than under the current plan.

Also note that Trump’s now pushing national ID and election integrity measures.

he thinks this is a new, brilliant strategy
This is done in every single legislative battle over everything. Deal-breakers are put into funding bills and both sides get to kvetch and talk about how unacceptable the other groups offer is. The media and parties get the circus they want, and get to paint whoever they want as the bad guys who wouldn't be flexible. Nothing changes, the can gets kicked down the road, all to repeat over again. The clapping seals on both sides will call it a victory and act like it was planned all along. The people who just want actual solutions will be called shills and inflexible purists who don't understand the game. Everyone gets to pretend to be right and nothing changes. Hooray.

This thread kek. You can always tell if something is perceived as an important topic by them when all the various shill descend.

Don't try arguing with those sad losers. They'll get BTFO again by the end of the weekday and retreat neutered during the weekend. (screencap this)

wow you didn't read
ha ha it won't happen goyim trust us
the demographic makeup of the country will not change
trust us
we said so
that makes it true
Reported.

(screencap this)
hello fellow anonymoose imarge bard users
Grandpa, seriously, go to bed, you're getting more and more cringeworthy by the post.

Blow your fucking brains out, amnesty supporter.

Trump will do something on Friday again which will, yet again, cause those kikes to have to work on their Sabbath.

It's what he always does. The Jews haven't had a proper Sabbath in over two years.

amnesty for all illegals in all forms is a wedge issue for illegals

Q-LARP shitposting

I agree that Gutierrez is just showboating and wouldn't ever follow through on that promise, but damn if it doesn't make me smile to imagine Trump somehow striking a deal that has the entire Democratic party PHYSICALLY participating in building the border wall. I love the image of Schumer, Pelosi, maybe even Hillary and Obama out there sweating in the sun hauling bricks and mortar while Trump kicks back with a ice-cooled drink and sunglasses in a hammock.

Sadly, such smugness could never physically exist, it would break laws of physics.

One key issue is, as president, he has the precedent to already do a lot things asked for during the election cycle. In terms of compromises, the worst he should be having to do is getting people who are on his side in power (not dealing with the masses of illegals/etc. via bargains). After that, he can use his existing power (granted as the executive branch) to deport them all without exception.
In short, he shouldn't be compromising amnesty, the worst he should be doing is taking time to put "his people" into power so he can just deport them all like Ike did.

Daily reminder the democrat party already voted to fund a wall and increase border security - but never followed through. Just because they might do it again doen't ensure they won't kick the can down the road over it again.

As a racialist, I can tell you zero!

inb4 non-racialists say a number above zero
Do you really think non-whites can fit in white society?

Q can larp an unprecedented number of sealed indictments into the Federal court system
You're a bot ain't cha?

It's when you truely learn to appreciate slushies, air hockey, waterslide parks, and backyard barbecue.
Don't know why that's relevant though, they all have to go back.

Do you really think non-whites can fit in white society?
Seems the Asians, Indians, and so on do just fine.

The smooth course of action is to make it so the shit-tier nonwhites can't thrive like they do in our current gibs culture. Trump is attacking SNAP/EBT, making the illegals sign up for lists, cutting off benefits, etc. Because of the generations of brainwashing it's just not possible or advantageous to go full HANG THE NIGGERS AND SPICS just yet.

That'll be Generation Z's calling.

This feels amazing yet surreal, 8/pol/ has been in a pure winning streak for a whole year.

shills will tell you that a spic Democrat offering the wall for a nebulous path to citizenship which takes over a decade is bad
we will keep winning too

implying you can trust them to keep any promise they make
what is the hart-cellar act
The bill will not flood our cities with immigrants. It will not upset the ethnic mix of our society. It will not relax the standards of admission.

some other thing which they lied about is the same as this thing
LOL you shills honestly do work off scripts don't you?

Here's a very possible scenario for everyone to mull over and call me a shill for entertaining
Democrats accept the bill
wall funding passes
1.8 million illegals get citizenship
Democrats get control of congress
decide to not follow through on implementation of improved border security like they did last time
now we have 1.8m new democrat mexicans, a dem controlled congress, and no wall

still shilling for Q's narrative
Out now.

you're a shill if you're against amnesty
Reported.

they lied about the wall in the 80's too torposter

and just who are you going to be shooting at?
Random lady at church? Random father at the grocery store? The mall santa? Your cousin arriving from traveling the world?

watch them strain and moan to crank out this piece of legislation in three days only to be vetoed by our troll-in-chief

Nothing.can.stop.us, check out the WINNING 2019 budget!

HURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR IF I PRETEND THAT YOU DON'T KNOW WHO THE ENEMIES ARE, YOU WILL BELIEVE THAT HE WANTS YOU TO KILL RANDOM PEOPLE AND YOU WON'T FIGHT BACK
This thread REALLY brought out the shills.

too complicated to understand for the average the_donald poster

Out.

Out.

so btfo in the budget thread he's trying the same shtick in the amnesty thread
kill yourself dude. filtered.

didn't read

Reminder that he started spamming his off-topic images in every thread the day that shareblue was banned from reddit.

citizenship in 12+ years
implying they can start voting now

inb4 hurrr 40 quatrillion illegal mexicans from Quac town voted last election
We are getting VOTING IDs very soon!

vetoed by Trump
I don't really see any indication he would do this. Is this hopeful thinking or has he suggested he's not ok with the current bill? Because even he proposed citizenship for DACA recipients in his SOTU

the fact that there are an unprecedented number of Federal indictments on the docket is a Q larp
lol

It's not amnesty, learn to use your language. I know Hebrew's your native tongue and pilpul is your basis for argumentation but please, this is a civilized board.

the "they" who lied in the 80s is the exact same crew as Trump and his people
This is why the entire establishment's been shilling against Trump nonstop, because he's exactly the same. I see, it's brilliant, sure had me fooled! Might as well not do anything because of something that happened 30 years ago then!

I'm happy that TOR posting pisses you off so much.

HURRR DURRR DURRR I won't kill random ladies at church, I will kill my gardener
Shills having a breakdown is hilarious

are there really people in this thread who take party politic showmanship at face value?

Informed prediction, user. Trump gave a list of conditions for the 1.8 mil that the dems couldn't stomach. If they need 9 dem votes to get something through, it's likely they will compromise something on that list and bam easy veto.

Salty.shareshill.
Good
Have some.more

((( )))
At least Trump can pay white people; how many people have you paid to?

are there really people in this thread who take party politic showmanship at face value?
I don't think so, they're shills and they know exactly what they're doing. It's genetic, they can't stop lying and misrepresenting.

the ones who lied are and were members of the party pushing to let all the illegals become citizens you historically illiterate faggot; they should make good on their decades old promise of a wall as a show of good faith, but they won't.

worrying about the legislative process

THE (((JEWDICIARY))) STRIKES AGAIN!!!
A federal judge in New York ruled Tuesday that the government must fully restart the Obama-era DACA deportation amnesty and accept brand new applicants as well as renewals, throwing a potential wrench in the ongoing debate over the fate of “Dreamers” on Capitol Hill.
archive.is/fLQhf

to send a message
the message of wagecucks
sorry, but you left yourself open for that one

lol so much for what Trump wants (or shills think he wants)

the ones who lied are and were members of the party
You mean the cuckservatives who Trump ran against and defeated?

He's going to put something stupid in the Republican proposal and the Democrats are going to shut down the government before they can make a deal for March 5th.

democrat senators moron

Dont forget that the kikes calling these spics dreams, in itself, is an attack upon us.

MLK moloch - "I have a dream"
spics - "we are dreamers"

No, it is WE who are dreamers. It is WE who create greatness with our minds.

(natural and organic check em!)
Why don't you kill yourself while we all watch on a livetream?

what's the difference?

I hope the Democrats shut down the government.

Now you don't even know who controlled Congress and the Senate in the 80s. You're a millennial ain't cha?

there will never be another opportunity
wew

not up to the democrats or republicans anymore

Democrats controlled the House, Republicucks controlled the Senate.
Very little nowadays.

Yikes, there are more Shareblue Shills in here than an AIDS clinic on a Saturday night.

Good thing non-shills know that (((globalists))) will NEVER agree to building a wall, ending chain migration, or merit-based immigration, ever, and all this pearl-clutching is toxic bullshit.

toxic
leave

Get a job and buy a plane ticket if you feel "oppressed" where you live. Once you get citizenship on that country, get a loan here and go there to live life to the fullest.

strawman
Eat shit, Q-fag. Your kike isn't real.
amnesty isn't amnesty
why won't you believe our newspeak, goyim
REPORTED FOR SUPPORTING AMNESTY.
oy vey yet another strawman
Reported for blackpill spam.

Reported for ban evasion.

will end up going up the food chain and getting Gorsuch'd
This is all part of the plan to expose the activist judiciary.

Why in the world are you trying to associate Q with the Federal indictments? One has nothing to do with the other. You're an obvious shill, and I don't think you're actually reporting people at all because that'd be abuse and result in a ban.

Unless you're the kiked out mod.

It'd be great if you did what you said you were gonna do and send them home, you old Boomer.

Should he, and the Republicans, do this, I will never vote for either of them ever again and will almost-certainly abandon electoral politics completely as far as my hopes are concerned. In fact, I will likely go full-accelerationist, and purposefully vote all Democrat all future elections.

Checked for this nigger gets it.

That is, in fact, semantics, because if they are given amnesty more will flood in, and those given amnesty wille eventually be given a 'path to citizenship' anyway.
If they get amnesty, they'll effectively be citizens one way or the other in time.

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE FUCK I'M TALKING ABOUT WITH KICK-THE-CAN-DOWN-THE-ROAD POLITICS. Trying to put a deal-breaker in a budget bill is not good strategy, it's a way to punt while patting yourself on the back and calling the other team bad for not negotiating. Everyone in the media and parties get their talking points and nothing else changes. We still don't get the wall funding. We still don't get any immigration fixes. We just get a bunch of debt my generation will have to pay off and a bunch of self-congratulatory faggotry from every civnat faggot on the internet. I'm so fucking sick of this garbage.

This.
The shills hate this type of post.
It's pretty hard for chosen beaners to get citizenship. If they can follow the law and be gud goys for 12 years (good luck), then they get it. Dems won't agree anyway and will look shit again for their beaner and nigger pets.

these

I hope the Democrats shut down the government.
The difference between now and then is that Congress doesn't know how unnecessary they are.

birthday is on Thursday
1.8 million spics could get amnesty
I fucking swear this shit better not go through

Don’t forget that the end to the chain migration starts ten years from now AFTER the three million already on the list get in. Not voting for Trump if he does this

Not true.

he thinks the shut down means anything
80+% of the federal government stays open during "shut-downs" because everyone considers themselves "critical". Everyone who was "shut down" gets the back pay, anyways, so it doesn't even help by reducing the debt. A "government shut down" does literally nothing except close some national parks until the circus is over.

troll in chief

Hmm I wonder when kampfy is going to start removing these reddit fags. Clearly hasn’t happened yet

They are the same shitty shill from the other trump thread. All they are here to do is to D&C trump discussion and ensure that everything, no matter what on trump is seen as blackpill/negative to drive a wedge.

They should be rounded up and deported, or tried for sedition. They run on Chinese money.

However, the reduction in immigration wouldn’t begin until approximately four million undocumented people currently on family-based waiting lists — known as backlogs — are processed. Policy analysts said that process would take over a decade.
“We’re thinking it will be 10 to 12 years before all four million of these people are actually out of the system,” said Andrew Arthur, resident fellow at the Center for Immigration Studies, a think tank that advocates for lower levels of immigration. “And that’s on top of the 1.8 million people getting amnesty.”

You’re fucking stupid and a cuckold. 4M more beaners over ten years. That’s IF they don’t reinstitute chain migration after Trump, which is almost assuredly the plan.

archive.is/EdGkq

Trump sycophants like you are the worst enemy of all. He should be held to his promises. This is the only one that mattered, not LE TAX CUTS.

10 to 12 years
And if a democrat wins the presidency, any gains on border security or reductions on immigration will be reversed, and all the Trump admin will have to show for its immigration policity is 4million new democrat voters from Mexico. B A S E D

Checked
They should be rounded up and shot or deported.
They always use the same formatting and tired circular arguments, also they will never admit they are wrong, nor address points raised e.g. these posts They go for maximum inflammatory, maximum responses because that's how you derail a thread and get sheckels per reply.
It's not worth their time to debate.

Its another "TRUMP IS A CUCK DON'T VOTE!!!" despite nothing yet happening thread

He talked about a path to citizenship all through his campaign, this is the 'back of the line' program he promised us.

They will indeed be rounded up user. It'll be a literal shoah.

Nice quads

Why in the world are you trying to associate Q with the Federal indictments?
It's the entire fucking premise of the LARP. The indictments are low-level drug dealers.
One has nothing to do with the other.
You know fucking nothing.
You're an obvious shill
"I DON'T UNDERSTAND YOU THEREFORE YOU'RE A SHILL"
People without introspection belong here /leftypol/index.html
I don't think you're actually reporting people
Holy christ, kill yourself.
that'd be abuse
"Y-y-y-y-y-you can't report my bullshit! That's abuse!"
/leftypol/index.html
Unless you're the kiked out mod.
<mods report people
This is how mentally defective Q-fags actually are.

THAT'S NOT THE POINT!

God damn it Holla Forums, we have been over this before!

Amnesty, by any other name, is a permanent action - if these wretches are given amnesty, not only will you NEVER get it taken away from the, but it is a certainty that they will be given citizenship, AND it will act as a precedent drawing more of these mongrels into our lands.
b-b-but muh wall!
I'M GETTING TO THAT!

I'll use the metaphor I used before, because it still works.
This scenario is akin to someone (Trump) who owns a dog (refusal on DACA) getting into a disagreement with a neighbor (Dems) who has a garden (refusal on other matters).

Trump's "deal" here basically says "Okay, I'll shoot my dog (grant DACA amnesty), but only if you dig up your garden (fund Trump's wall), salt the Earth (end chain migration), and sign this piece of paper saying you'll never plant another one (end lottery migration)!"

And its a horrible fucking deal.

The reason being, let's assume it goes through… The Dems can replant their garden, they can remove the salted soil and add new soil to allow such, and they can simply ignore the piece of paper they signed!
For example, first of all, you are not going to "end chain migration" or "end lottery migration" into perpetuity with with legislation. As soon as Dems take control of government - and they likely will, especially if a large number of non-Whites are added to the voter rolls (now or in 10 years, doesn't really matter).
And then there's the issue of the wall, and it continues to amaze me that I have to reiterate this but: A wall is only useful in any way so long as there is someone in power who acts to defend it!

Lastly, there's Trump's side of things: While the Dems can replant their garden, Trump's dog will be dead.
That is to say, that amnesty of any sort will, in time at the very least, result in citizenship. Those citizens will vote overwhelminingly left-wing, as they always do.
Whether that's tomorrow or ten years down the line is entirely irrelevant as regards the state of our country - and once the process is begun, once the cucking happens, you will NEVER get it reversed. IOW: Once Trump shoots his dog, that fucking dog is dead, and its never coming back.
Just like White demographic security in the US if this amnesty shit passes.

I am so tired of hearing faggots trying to justify this objectively treacherous action on behalf of the US government.
Its disgusting and you should be ashamed of yourselves.

Why offer them citizenship at all? What’s the gain? Trump could do nothing at all and still come out on top over this shit deal. Not to mention amnesties are always for more than they’re said for. That’s how Reagan’s amnesty was expanded to twice the amount it was originally supposed to cover. Immigration lawyers immediately start to look for the cracks and start exploiting them. The only reason republicucks are putting up a new bill is because the Reagan amnesty is hard to use as justification now. You reddit faggots need to ingest cyanide immediately. An amnesty would permanently change this country and your oh so beloved president (GLORIOUS MAGAPEDE TRUMP) will assuredly get one term. No one would vote for him after this, besides maybe you battered wives over on Reddit

The indictments are low-level drug dealers.
How do you know this if they're sealed, kike?

kike judge rules that an illegal executive order has to continue
"P-please listen to me, goys! I'm a judge!"
Sorry, that's not how it works

Fuck off. This is not the time for pacifism.

that's exactly how it works

The POINT is that any of the benefits, like chain migration and visa lottery, end after TEN YEARS. The time frame is so wide because it was never intended to go into effect. That’s why they will immediately get the negatives front loaded and any benefits cast so far into the dystopian future where these people will now be a further strengthened fifth column in this country who will agitate for these provisions to be killed before they ever go into effect, you are dumb or naive. Pick one.

Let me check my phone's phonebook. Yep, no spics. So yeah, I don't care. Deport the lot of them.

I mean it's just 2 million vetted genuine people with a job and career, not the rapists. Does DACA mean all the rest of the illegals are going to be forcefully deported?
The wall needs to be built so that they can't get back in anyhow.

BUILD THE WALL

As soon as Dems take control of government
LOL they're broke and have basically lost everything. This deal is excellent because the DNC will never come back, especially not after what's coming.

Nice blackpill though, might as well do nothing because in the future it might be undone, right?

I mean it's just 2 million vetted genuine people with a job and career
reported for being a retarded cuckold

all their voters got deported? when?

chain migration and visa lottery, end after TEN YEARS
Where are you getting this? You just made it up.

Why can’t the provisions go into effect immediately? Oh yeah you’re a cuckold and can’t see past your nose.

See

He talked about a path to citizenship all through his campaign, this is the 'back of the line' program he promised us.
You lying piece of torfag garbage.

Did you forget
THEY HAVE TO GO BACK
?
It was one of the most-powerful memes of the entire election cycle.

LOL they're broke and have basically lost everything
Oh man you are a fucking scab and a half m8.
Are you trying to say you don't think the Dems will EVER be in power again?
This deal is excellent because the DNC will never come back, especially not after what's coming.
Oh Jesus Christ, this is pathetic fucking LARP. Tor was a mistake, these fucking admin shills will never fucking leave.
blackpill
It is now blackpilling to suggest that legislation isn't eternal and the opposition party - which has a demographic advantage, which will only increase in time - will never take power again.

I got a better analogy:
Suppose there is a deadly disease out there (think zombie apacolypse). Now, you build a wall around your country so that none of those diseases can get in (perfect). But, OH SHIT, there are diseased people in the fucking country already. Now what? If they aren't removed, the plagued inside is no different from the plagued outside (actually worse, because in the outside you can run to where ever, but within the walls you're trapped).

DNC completely out of money (I have more money than the DNC does kek)
voter ID takes away their vote rigging games
etc.
The deportations will come but first we solve their voting issues.

literal source: some guy who hasn't even seen the deal

Sorry, but the legislative branch can't tell the executive branch what to do. Nice try though.

I expected this kind of cuckolding on reddit but it's really a shame to see all these sycophant magapedes on Holla Forums. There's only one acceptable immigration policy, period. Everyone here illegally goes back. They're foreign nationals who get to go back to their home country. Period. You don't give the democrats half of what they want because the next time they're in power, they'll double and triple down. You have to knock them back so next time they're in power, they're playing catch-up, not filling in the rest of the blanks. It's upsetting I even have to make this statement on Holla Forums

They're mostly going back, which is better than none of them going back, you blackpill faggot. Half already washed out of DACA over the past couple years alone.

I'm glad TOR makes you so angry.

Trump is going to deport natural born citizens or take away their voting rights?

judges are legislative
Please tell me you don't vote.

o-ok thanks for your contribution

voter id
DOESN'T EXIST FAGGOT!
DNC out of money
FUCKING JEWS!

This narrative you're spouting is redditor as fuck m8.

Now, you build a wall around your country so that none of those diseases can get in (perfect).
Which is worth something only so long as it is defended - and the opposition party wants to welcome the diseases in!

But, OH SHIT, there are diseased people in the fucking country already. Now what?
Remove them.

If they aren't removed, the plagued inside is no different from the plagued outside (actually worse, because in the outside you can run to where ever, but within the walls you're trapped).
Like I said, remove them. And your analogy is rather shite m8, doesn't address the same issues.

HUUUURRRRR you're a nigger because you mistakenly typed legislative instead of judicial
Gas yourself

Where did I say that? No, he's going to stop millions of illegals and dead people from voting for Democrats.

Never go full retard, shill.

National biometric ID laws are being introduced now, and they will be tied to voter integrity. Expect this to be a major source of kvetching.

So we don't get rid of every single DACA person, but we do get rid of 9/10 or more of the beaners at a bare minimum (assuming more don't wash out, which they will). It's a good deal.

The amount of blatant denial is almost too much to bear. This place is a Kushner shilled shit pit now. Here is the fucking WHITE HOUSE WEBSITE saying that they will allow in everyone on the backlog.

Read it and weep Kushner shill kike: whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/white-house-framework-immigration-reform-border-security/

Remember when Pat Buchanan was running in 2000 and the Jews got Trump to go after him hard? Op-Ed pieces in the La Times, TV interviews calling him a "nazi" who hates blacks and gays?

Pat Buchanan came out against the NWO, Gay Marriage, Abortion, Illegal Immigration, and the "Culture War" he later referred to as "Cultural Marxism".

The Jews had a meltdown, and their Golden Boy came to the rescue.

Republicans are thinking the solution is to push this beyond midterms.
The idea is to offer something to the Democrats, who will fail to take it because it includes the wall, and then simply say "sorry too late."
It's definitely strange goings on. ZH even went with an article talking about how Trump's offer needs to get 9 Dem senators to climb on it to get past a Dem filibuster. Weird narrativing when we all know this is a hyooge and terrible concession.
The whole idea of even allowing a week's discussion of this is shit. That means some "bipartisan" group will come up with a proposal that won't pass. But that proposal will hang like the Sword of Damocles, threatening to get put into any must-pass legislation down the road.

They're mostly going back,
No they fucking aren't, and you're shilling for allowing like a million + to stay
AND AMNESTY ALWAYS BRINGS A WAVE OF INFLUX.
This is Reagan all over again, and it exactly what everyone warned about Trump.

which is better than none of them going back, you blackpill faggot.
its better to allow a few million goy, its not like that will set a precedent or have any further implicatios goy
you're blackpilled
Seems legit faggot.

Half already washed out of DACA over the past couple years alone.
past couple years alone
This is a shill.

I'm glad TOR makes you so angry.
Tor doesn't make me angry - worthless obviously-banned faggots like you using it to shill republicuck talking points make me angry.

a good deal
when you could have them all removed instead

<reeeeeeeee
Still not the bill, it's a summary of a plan, and I don't see this magic ten year time frame you keep shilling.

he's actually retarded
Holy shit dude, the judicial branch does get to tell the legislative branch what they can and can't do. The judicial branch is the end-all-be-all of what the government can and cant do, with very rare and very uncommon exceptions. Please never vote if you're genuinely this uninformed about how the government works.

A deal where they are all removed won't happen with the current numbers. On the other hand, the Democrats have actual spic senators advocating for the wall now, in exchange for a nominal number of DACA spics.

How fucking kiked are you? The bill assumes the historic average of yearly chain migration applicant processing speed which is like 400k a year. 4m / 400k = 10 years. I sincerely hope you slit your wrists.

democrat would never lie

You
can't
pass
laws
during
shutdown.

He'll literally go oops I guess you couldn't save them.

The bill assumes the historic average of yearly chain migration applicant processing speed
Cite the portion of the bill which backs up your claim.

Who cares if he's lying? This bill forces them into choosing between DACA spics and the great mass of unregistered illegals. It's perfect because it drives a wedge into their base.

it drives a wedge into their base
cucks keep repeating this but it never materializes

Trump isn't the legislative branch, he can cancel an executive order whenever he pleases and no judicial branch rat can say otherwise. Only thing that happened is that more application have to be processed, but nothing has to go through. It's almost like you're the retard.

A federal court just ruled that DACA just goes back into effect if the deadline passes so who cares? Kicking the can down the road isn't a policy, it's just more useless posturing to give the talking heads more time to get their talking points in the media.

something which is happening never happens
even though a spic lynch mob showed up at Chuck Jewmer's house to protest this, proving that it is indeed driving a wedge
Nice blackpill, kike shill.

And that kike judge will get BTFO by Gorsuch.

no judicial branch can stop an executive order
hooooollllyyyy shit we're reaching levels of retardation I did not think humanly possible. Obama got BTFO'd 1,000x by the courts over his exec orders, genius.

Posters like you give all TORPEDOs a bad name. Look at how disingenuous this kike is anons. Learn to spot these kikes.

muh reddigg shilling
Why offer them it at all?
Because when the dems deny it, it will look really bad for them.
That said, if for some reason it did go through,
if they can stay 12 years crime free, work etc do something productive, then they get in.
That's not going to be many, the ones that do will at least contribute to the country. This versus constant political bickering and 12 gorillion spics?

p.s. you should start throwing zog + neo-conservative etc terms around to make your point better You stupid newfag shill

It's perfect because it drives a wedge into their base
Heil'd Hitler dubs
Yes exactly. Just like the support numbers in 'minorities' it does drive a wedge, which gets more support for Trump.

doesn't matter they will still vote dem

they're mostly going back
If the U.S. hasn't enforced immigration law in the past thirty-odd years, why would it suddenly start now that the government is even more dominated by kikes, liberals and shitskins?

National biometric ID laws are being introduced now,
Meaning they don't exist, nigger.
and they will be tied to voter integrity.
will be
Nope, not buying it.

Expect this to be a major source of kvetching.
Bullshit. More Q-tier LARPfagging. Not buying it. You're a shill.

So we don't get rid of every single DACA person, but we do get rid of 9/10 or more of the beaners at a bare minimum (assuming more don't wash out, which they will).
What!? No we don't. There's millions of illegal beaners in this country, AND millions of legal beaners.
As for DACA, you aren't getting rid of any of them - you're giving them amnesty, which will become citizenship. And all their children will become citizens.
inb4 "we'll remove birthright citizenship!"
I don't believe you, and neither would anyone with any sense.

It's a good deal.
Trading a permanent condition for a bunch of temporary shit that can - and WILL - be rescinded, while the amnesty will turn into citizenship and will never be rescinded. Its a shit deal. I'm glad it triggers you so much for it to be said.

Fucking THIS.

A deal where they are all removed won't happen with the current numbers.
Bullshit!

On the other hand, the Democrats have actual spic senators advocating for the wall now, in exchange for a nominal number of DACA spics.
BECAUSE THEY'RE THINKING FOURTH DIMENSIONALLY YOU FUCKING FAGGOT!
Hahaha, Jesus Christ, what is taqiyya!?

Sure we're in favor of the wall, but first give us, I dunno, at least a million more non-Whites in the country. We totally won't then find a way to grant them citizenship on an accelerated timeline, and that totally wont give us a demographic advantage in electoral politics, and we totally wont use that to gain power, rescind all that temporary legislative shit we agreed to, and stop defending the wall. We promise gringo.
Get fucked nigger.

This bill forces them into choosing between DACA spics and the great mass of unregistered illegals.
no it doesn't.
They can - and WILL - have both, if you grant them the DACA spics. That will set a precedent. It will cause an illegal influx. It will show you are weak and willing to cuck to these muds. It will piss off the Republican base.

And when the Dems get back in power - the idea that they are 'out of money' when George Fucking Soros is alive, not to mention the Rothschildes - thanks to their demographic advantage, they will get to rescind all the legislation that inhibits the illegal stream, and then they'll have had their cake and eatten it too.

See, the biggest difference between the Republican base and the Democratic base?
The Republicans will be horrified by this.
Most of the Democrats won't even know it happened, because they don't follow politics - they just vote how they're told by the people who bus them to the voting stating, because they want their coupon for Sizzlers.

I don't know if you're deliberately not reading what I'm saying, or trying be as autistic as possible. This is twice now you've said something completely unrelated to what I've said.

<waah somebody's arguing with me on the Internet and I can't take it

This.

If the U.S. hasn't enforced immigration law in the past thirty-odd years
Didn't you pay attention when Trump got elected? He was elected precisely because the government isn't working, and he's introducing measures to make it work.

<nothing will ever change, might as well give up goyim

Nice ®eddi† spacing tard.

First you said the courts can't tell the legislative branch what to do. That is factually wrong, it's actually part of their job. Then you said the courts can't do anything if Trump reverses an exec order. This is factually wrong. The courts also have oversight of the executive branch and can step in if they think Trump is violating the constitution. No branch, legislative or executive, is safe from the judicial branch oversight ever on anything. Period.

The Supreme Court denies the appeal. DACA officially dies with no law to replace it thanks to the government shutdown.

Then what happens when the government comes back online?

Everyone's already on tilt over everything going on but especially DACA. Think of this bill as the inseminated egg inside a black womans womb. It's going to get botched.
Just look at Suhumers twitter handle.

All they can do is delay the inevitable. I'm glad they're outing themselves so eagerly and early though.

Nice absence of an argument torfag.

Tell us more about how DACA amnesty is super-great and will tooooooooottally cause the Democratic Party of the US - which is broke btw, and will remain so, of course! - to collapse over their having to choose between two things that they don't have to choose between.

Tell us of the chess, true chan oldfag shilling for amnesty.

The Supreme Court denies the appeal
everything doesn't automatically reach SCOTUS
could go either way even if it does

March 5 has then expired. It's like DACA never existed.

So is the government going to deport all 1.8 million af that point?

learn to read the thread, faggot

I'm against DACA being continued and if the Democrats don't take this deal it will expire. I suspect Trump wants this, it will paint the DNC in a terrible light.

If the deal passes we get a wall and end to chain migration and the visa lottery, in exchange for at the most 1.8 million (((dreamers))) even though half have washed out of the program since it started, so the ultimate number would probably be like 200,000 max.

It's a win-win.

This. Anons in this thread are retarded not to see the obvious ploy here.

republicans offer deal dems won't accept
dreamers will be pissed when it doesn't pass since amnesty will be taken off the table
dreamers and libs riot and hurt their own cause
dems look incompetent and their base in demoralized
republicans gain a supermajority in the midterms
Trump pushes things up a few notches for the next two years

He's assuming the supreme court strikes down the lower court order.

Fuck off you shilling derailing faggot, they already have made those points.

They are illegal, when they are apprehended, yes I expect that they will be deported.

Follow the ID, faggot. Addressed here

It will, this all stems from an EO.

spics stop voting because of some legislative bs?

when apprehended I expect they'll be deported
even though we don't deport every illegal that gets caught commiting crimes currently
but we'll totally start now
How about not banking on the democrats who have proven they won't enforce immigration laws, and not banking on ICE, who currently do not deport illegals unless they commit a major felony. How about just admitting the best course of action is deporting everyone here illegally, and not pretending to be retarded so the problems get shifted to the next round of politicians who will likely be even worse.

Spics stop voting because of biometric national ID. Same with dead people and multi-voting union members.

t-trump will fuh-fuh-fix it
wuh-wuh-why else did we v-vote for him
Again, if the U.S. hasn't enforced immigration in the past thirty-odd years, why would it suddenly start to do so now, when an entire state is openly defying federal law and declared itself exempt?

So you've just deliberately not read anything I've said, that's good to know. I said
the legislative branch can't tell the executive branch what to do
Then corrected legislative with judicial. That's one wrong there, schlomo. They also have no power to usurp the role of president, they can only operate within the power of the judicial system.
The courts also have no power over whether the executive branch cancels an executive decision. If you've been paying attention to anything, you'd know this by now. The reason DACA is continuing is because it was only halted, not officially canceled. Once Trump says it is, then nothing can be done about it.

1.8 million illegals get citizenship
What part of the bill says 1.8 million illegals instantly get citizenship? If you can find it I agree with you.

I'm against DACA being continued
So end the program.
Oh, wait, you can't! Because Trump won't impose his will upon the corrupt judiciary engaging in political activism! Aw gee wiz…
and if the Democrats don't take this deal it will expire.
See above, but even assuming that were the case, why wouldn't you just NOT make a deal?
muh optics cucking
The Democratic base doesn't give a shit. Not at all.

I suspect Trump wants this, it will paint the DNC in a terrible light.
THE CHESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

If the deal passes we get a wall
That is only useful so long as it is DEFENDED.
and end to chain migration and the visa lottery,
Which will be rescinded as soon as the Democrats regain power - something made all the easier by setting the precedent of amnesty, neverminding the potentiality of future citizenship.
in exchange for at the most 1.8 million (((dreamers)))
at the most
BULLSHIT. I've seen estimates upwards of 3 million for the present (((dreamers))), and that ignores all the other issues which will ensure that this is NOT "at most 1.8 million" - and even THAT ignores that even 1.8 million would COMPLETELY destabilize US electoral politics, given that Clinton won the popular vote by about 2 million votes (legitimate or false, doesn't matter if they're counted) and another 2 million will add to that pile.
even though half have washed out of the program since it started,
What do you even think that means m8?
so the ultimate number would probably be like 200,000 max.
Do you have ANY evidence to back this up? Somehow, I fucking well doubt it.

It's a win-win.
Nah, it'd be ceding permanent conditions in exchange for temporary conditions gained.
Its a lose-lose.
And you still have no argument.

biometric national ID
and when is this happening?

They get it over the next decade "as long as they don't commit crimes".

they
Who the fuck is 'they'? The torfag who ignores any points raised against him and just keeps spewing the same chess-tier nonsense while shilling for amnesty as a 'good deal'?

Wew lad, fuck it, doesn't even matter. Redditor shills are fucking disgusting.

Not so. Ann Coulter explains that the courts will rule that everybody gets it. So this is back door amnesty. They all know what they're doing too, they know they're liars, they know that the bill won't be thrown out for unconstitutionality, but instead will get expanded to everyone.

KIKES! THE LOT OF THEM! GODDAMN KIKES!

DACA was an Obama Executive Order, that Trump already rescinded. The Democrats are trying to make it official law to save their Meixcans, but it's politically retarded and they can only do it if they can keep the Mexicans in the country and voting for them. If the Mexicans are officially illegal and being deported in mass, they're fucked if they try to campaign on it as an issue.

everything doesn't automatically reach SCOTUS
It's an Executive Order. Trump asks the Supreme Court to review the lower court decision: why is a lower court enforcing a revoked order?
could go either way even if it does
Conservative SCOTUS majority, means they're going to support the obvious conclusion:
you can't enforce a rescinded order

but you stupid drumptards WILL NEVER deport anyone because youre just dumb meanie racist boo boo heads.
Wrong. We already have the blueprints because we've done it before. Read up, faggot.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wetback

Coulter is an anti-Trump shill who was on limited hangout. She is a blackpilling kikess who fucks black men.

Spics stop voting because of biometric national ID. Same with dead people and multi-voting union members.
EXCEPT IT DOESN'T EXIST, YOU FAGGOT! And voter fraud investigation went nowhere, being turned over to DHS, which is run by a pro-DACA catlady!
Nobody has faith in these people to get the job done, thus telling us 'Don't worry, they'll get the job done in the future!' holds not power.

Dude, he thinks - or rather, he's pretending he thinks - spics give a shit about any of this trash, as though spics and niggers are ACTUALLY going to not support the Democrats because 'muh DACA'. Its fucking ridiculous redditor-Boomer reasoning.

they can only operate within the power of the judicial system.
part of that power, is oversight of executive branch actions. Like I pointed out, Obama got his exec orders cucked by the supreme court multiple times.
Once Trump says it is, then nothing can be done about it.
I don't know what else to tell you, m8. This is just factually incorrect. The supreme court has the final say on the legality of all government activity, legislative and executive.

It was just in the news last week kike. So, soon.

Soon.
The kike media told me so.
WHERE THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE!?

Biometric National ID and voter integrity absolutely are happening. It’s been in the news with frantic kikes like you kvetching about it.

Don’t worry, we don’t have to settle this today on this image board.

The media reported on a bill in committee. It’s happening and you will howl and scream, lol.

Biometric? Like in what way? I don't mind national voter ID but I don't see myself getting a retina scan or something like that in order to vote.

Biometric National ID and voter integrity absolutely are happening.
Nobody with a brain has faith in that!
It’s been in the news with frantic kikes like you kvetching about it.
Oh the media kikes told you, so it must be true? SEEMS LEGIT FAGGOT!
Don’t worry, we don’t have to settle this today on this image board.
You are so bad at fitting in. Is this your first deployment to h8/pol/? Because you're fucking awful at this job.

comparing your compromising b.s. to Ike's true removal
kys

No, CIA stupid fucker. Man, you STINK.

DEFUND THE CIA

The media reported on a bill in committee.
The media also reported on a bill in committee that will lable "white supremacy" as terrorism and create whole new branches to go after it.
A bill being in committee doesn't mean a fucking thing, and the kike media kvetching over something doesn't mean its happening.

It’s happening and you will howl and scream, lol.
Prove it lel. (you can't, because its not, you just hope it is and want us to hope it is, and your source for this is the same kike media who lies constantly)

the government enforced immigration laws in the 1950's
I'm not arguing they physically couldn't I'm saying they won't. They haven't in nearly 70 years, even though the problems have gotten worse, the illegal population has exploded, and public pressure is even higher.

It’s OK, don’t vote then, Paco.

nothing but desperate blackpilling
You realize that blackpilling just galvanizes the people you think you’re weakening, don’t you? The past two years should be proof enough for you. Keep it up though, you’re just hurting yourself you dumb Boomer kike.

Yes you said that before, but you're not making any sense. I'm talking about cancelling an EO, which you're not and refraining from talking about. The Supreme Court won't have any say in whether Trump can or can't cancel DACA, because they don't have to. Trump can cancel an EO because he's president. I've already explained what happened with the recent court order, and it has nothing to do with whether Trump can end DACA or not.

THIS JUST IN
Another federal judge has blocked the rescinding of DACA
A second federal judge Tuesday has temporarily blocked the Trump administration from ending the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program.

Judge Nicholas G. Garaufis of the US District Court for the Eastern District of New York ruled that DACA participants and states are likely to succeed in their challenge that the way President Donald Trump terminated the Obama-era program was arbitrary and capricious.
Trump last year announced his plan to end DACA, the policy that allowed undocumented immigrants brought to the US as children to stay in the country, effective March 5. That deadline has become central in the congressional debate over immigration, but Democrats and Republicans are nowhere near a breakthrough
Tuesday's ruling, combined with a ruling from a California judge last month, means the program could end up going beyond the March 5 date. The ruling means DACA recipients can renew their status, but the administration will not have to hold the program open to those who never applied.
"Defendants indisputably can end the DACA program," Garaufis wrote, referring to the Trump administration. "The question before the court is thus not whether defendants could end the DACA program, but whether they offered legally adequate reasons for doing so. Based on its review of the record before it, the court concludes that defendants have not done so."
The judge said that the decision to end the program was based in part on the "plainly incorrect factual premise" that the program was illegal.
"Today's ruling shows that courts across the country agree that Trump's termination of DACA was not just immoral, but unlawful as well," said Karen Tumlin of the National Immigration Law Center.

cnn.com/2018/02/13/politics/federal-judge-daca/index.html

But Don't worry goys, it's only a temporary block! We'll get the MAGA train on its rails again, never fear! That is unless another federal judge decides that the government didn't give adequate reasons for doing something completely within their power

Yep defund those kikes.

The DNC anti-white bill will never make it, Trump has already eliminated a program designed to do what this bill proposes. Do try to pay attention.

Funny how 800,000 poor little children, brought here not of there own choice, suddenly becomes citizenship for 1.8 million 20-40 year old ADULTS.

WTF. This is why normies just tune out of politics and let the parasites have their way, because the lies are so huge it's better to ignore everything than deal with the insanity and possibly go mad yourself.

The way I see it there are three possibilities from Trump's perspective.
The bill doesn't pass because Dems are radicalized and disconnected as fuck, and everyone except Trump and the GOP members that supported him look like idiots
The bill passes and Trump enforces the decade long path to citizenship extremely strictly, resulting in most of the spics getting deported anyway. This may make Trump look like more of an asshole but we effectively get what we want. I have low confidence in this one because ICE isn't where it needs to be yet.
The bill passes and Trump genuinely thinks giving almost 2 million beaners amnesty and a path to citizenship is worth ending chain migration and a wall which it might be, but only in the long term and if whites start reproducing more, which is a big gamble

YOU ARE CIA

nothing but desperate blackpilling
So you have no argument?

You realize that blackpilling just galvanizes the people you think you’re weakening, don’t you?
Its not blackpilling to say that an amnesty deal is a shit deal, and to note that biometric ID as you claim doesn't presently exist and is not liable to exist anytime soon.

The past two years should be proof enough for you.
Of what?

Keep it up though, you’re just hurting yourself you dumb Boomer kike.
You really don't have any argument whatsoever, you just spew a bunch of redditor Boomer kike bullshit, talking points right off a page, and when called on it, you resort to accusations with no backing.

Cite your fucking sources on that shit being in committee and lets see which committee and whose on it, eh faggot?
Prove that biometric ID is, as you say, 'happening'. (you can't, because you have no fucking argument, and your go-to is just repeating the accusations levied against you in between spewing Faux Jews talking points)

this guy is a cia agent:

So two judges get BTFO instead of one. Not a problem. This will be fast tracked to the Supreme Court where they will settle it in Trump’s favor. He has never lost at the level of the highest court.

I'm not arguing that trump can't cancel an EO. Of course he can. I'm trying to get through to you that the courts absolutely still can go after him if he did that.
no they can't
THEY ALREADY DID, see "Defendants indisputably can end the DACA program," Garaufis wrote, referring to the Trump administration. "The question before the court is thus not whether defendants could end the DACA program, but whether they offered legally adequate reasons for doing so. Based on its review of the record before it, the court concludes that defendants have not done so."
The judge said that the decision to end the program was based in part on the "plainly incorrect factual premise" that the program was illegal.

This will be fast tracked to the Supreme Court
trannies in the military wasn't and Trump just gave up

implying that that there was a political will to deport them at all
implying that the popular support for deportations isn't higher than ever before

He isn't supporting anything you word twisting kikel. He simply offered a PATH to citizenship over 12 years.
I know you fully understand this and you simply argue in bad faith, so lemme spell this out for the good souls here.
Given that we are talking about a path to citizenship and not citizenship itself, it is obvious that those who are affected by this would have to voluntarily abide by the conditions included in the deal for 12 years straight. Now given the fact that most of them won't ever care to look into this in the first place, I'm pretty sure that the actual spics that will attain citizenship this way will be like 1-2% of all people who have this opportunity.

Except I wasn't comparing, I was using it as an expected blueprint.

they won't
But they already are friend. I don't know if you're uninformed, not paying attention or just plain acting dumb. Sure, you have states and cities that aren't following the law but you have many more that are and a good number of those are do so exceptionally. The country was never going to unfuck itself overnight you spaz, chill the fuck out.

being okay that the gov is in possession of your genetic information
Just what in the fuck is going on in this place?

I made my argument, which is that the biometric ID law is being worked on and will be introduced. You started your pilpul blather about other things which aren’t related. That famous Jewish verbal IQ at work eh?

Read the thread, blackpill nigger

you
can't
enforce
rescinded
laws
if the Supreme Court sets the precedent that you can enforce rescinded laws, we need to enforce the three-fifths compromise and the fugitive slave act

Calm down autist, you have the right to complain only AFTER such a thing gets passed.
I don't think Trump has any intention of passing this crap, and will demand something he knows the anti-whites aren't going to accept.

the DNC anti-White bill is in committee
but that doesn't matter because Trump will block it goy, trust me!
Nah.

Yup.

I made my argument,
Nah.
which is that the biometric ID law is being worked on and will be introduced.
I thought it was already introduced and in committee? Which is it?
And provide proof.
Again:
Cite your fucking sources on that shit being in committee and lets see which committee and whose on it, eh faggot?

Prove that biometric ID is, as you say, 'happening'. (you can't, because you have no fucking argument, and your go-to is just repeating the accusations levied against you in between spewing Faux Jews talking points)

You started your pilpul blather about other things which aren’t related. That famous Jewish verbal IQ at work eh?
Again, no argument, just more empty bullshit while shilling for amnesty.

Trump gave up
Trump can’t be expected to win every fight against such insane odds, and I see no signs that he forever granted trannies the right to join anywhere. Where is Trump’s admission that he conceded this fight? I want an official statement.

we need to enforce the three-fifths compromise and the fugitive slave act
Lets just go ahead and make them slaves again tbh.

calm down
don't have an opinion on proposed legislation
just wait until the government fucks you over, then you can have an opinion
Literally kill yourself.

You don’t cite your sources, I won’t play the source game with an obvious shill like you. You can’t even stay on topic with your blackpills.

Aha, ignore me, I'm tired, today was long and this thread is strange.

they already are
aren't you watching Tucker? It's all over his show
If the US was enforcing immigration law, we wouldn't be debating what to do with all the illegals in the US would we? We'd just be deporting them.

Trump can’t be expected to win every fight against such insane odds, and I see no signs that he forever granted trannies the right to join anywhere. Where is Trump’s admission that he conceded this fight? I want an official statement.
Okay, so, when Trump allows trannies in to fight, we're to assume that's not permanent, but when Trump eliminates an anti-White enforcement agency we're supposed to assume that is permanent?
Doesn't add up schlomo.

I never cited any sources faggot, you did!
Cite the media that you claim said XYZ. SHow me, now.

You can’t even stay on topic with your blackpills.
The topic at hand is how its not at all blackpilled to note that DACA amnesty is a horrible deal as laid out, and that you cannot provide proof to back up your claim that "biometric ID is happening and that justifies DACA amnesty!".
You don't even know what the fuck 'blackpilling' means, you newfag reddit-Boomer shill faaahaaahaaaggot.

Learn to read you idiot, you're acting like its already passed.

Shut up shill.

Do you know what DACA is? It is a stay on immigration laws for those who applied.

Trump is deporting record numbers of illegals. More go every day.

Trump is deporting record numbers of illegals. More go every day.
Prove it.

I'm having an opinion on proposed legislation faggot. Discussing the ramifications of a proposed piece of legislation is literally the entire point of debating legislation before passing it. It's hard to believe there are such passive cuckolded cowards like you in the US. filtered.

I love making you dance for me as much as you love your pilpul, kike. Now dance some more.

Be sure to bring sources FIRST next time, I feel no obligation to cite anything for a shill who doesn’t cite first. It’s a game I no longer play.

As long as I make you type more than I do, I win. It’s a manpower issue at the core, are there enough shills to combat every poster like me? Man-hour wise we have you kikes over a board even with your bot assisted shenanigans.

Don't have to, it's well known. It's literally a click away to find out yourself instead of demanding anons spoonfeed your ignorant ass.
You should start with wiki I already linked your stupid ass. Just fucking stop posting please, You are lowering the IQ of this place by one fucking point with every post you make you (you) loving faggot.

You claimed that Trump isn’t enforcing the law first. You bring proofs for your claims.

no arguments
maymays
Wew lad.

Be sure to bring sources FIRST next time, I feel no obligation to cite anything for a shill who doesn’t cite first.
I didn't make any claims to cite. You did. Cite them.
Prove it.
(You can't. I win.)

Don't have to, it's well known.
Hahahaha, no.
Prove it. Now.
Otherwise fuck off with your weak-sauce shill faggotry.

You claimed that Trump isn’t enforcing the law first.
Nope.
Trump is deporting record numbers of illegals. More go every day.
Prove it.

The trick with the proofs game is to force shills to bring their proofs first. It creates more work for them. This is a man hours game and the shills are losing.

the wiki i linked to
the wiki was about an operation in the mid 1950's. what the fuck am i suppposed to do with that? How about putting up a link about the Reagan amnesty disaster. How about putting up a link of the number of crimes committed by illegals contrasted against the number of illegals deported. How about just saying every illegal should be deported and all this amnesty talk is a distraction and we should enforce the laws on the books as written?

the trick to making a claim is expecting the other guy to disprove the negative!
thats how you shill
Admitting it outright.

You bring proofs for your claim then we’ll talk. Your question was in the form of a statement which pre-supposed that Trump isn’t deporting spics, but he is. Prove your concealed questioning claim then we will talk about it.

Vote for a kike stooge, get kike stooge policies.

You bring proofs for your claim then we’ll talk.
Didn't make a claim! You did.
Prove it.

Also waiting on the info on that 'in committee' bill.

… Its almost like you just talk out your ass and, when called on it, tell the other guy to prove the negative.

not throwing the shitty shills’ tactics back in their faces
It’s like you weren’t paying attention this whole time. Making shills waste their time is a great way to drain their resources.

This is just ridiculous, you're awful at this.
Prove your claims or fuck off. I've made not claims but requesting you prove yours.
Until you do, you have nothing else to say of import.

I don’t play the proofs game with shills like you:

Because you're a bad shill with no proof.

You think you’re more clever than you are. Anybody can look things up for themselves, and I’ve argued with enough shills to know that you’d simply ignore any proofs anyway.

My goal is to get you to waste time.

Blah blah blah.
Prove your claims.

No U.

You first.

Nou.

Never made one.

Did too.

Prove it. ;^)

a click away
here's what comes up when i type in "Trump administration deporting at record numbers"

Deportations fall under Trump despite increase in arrests by ICE
washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/deportations-fall-under-trump-despite-increase-in-arrests-by-ice/2017/09/28/1648d4ee-a3ba-11e7-8c37-e1d99ad6aa22_story.html?utm_term=.d3d5584f30e8

Fewer immigrants are being deported under Trump than under Obama
vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/8/10/16119910/trump-deportations-obama

Trump deportations lag behind Obama Levels
politico.com/story/2017/08/08/trump-deportations-behind-obama-levels-241420

Donald Trump is deporting fewer people than Barack Obama did
economist.com/news/united-states/21732561-deportation-has-also-become-considerably-more-random-donald-trump-deporting-fewer-people

If there was any doubt that the democucks don't want to make a deal on DACA, they just shut down the amnesty debate they themselves asked for

Trump is deporting record numbers of illegals. More go every day.
Well fancy that.
2c16fe was lying!
And b9803b was also lying!

Who would do something like that!? Lie on the internet…

Your mind will be blown when you realize that I am 2c16fe and b9803b. I'm also 1f61c8. Four proxies, four faces, could you tell the difference? I bet you couldn't.

spics have wierd loyalty shinanigans, if you tell a truth, even a half truth like a public show of passing DACA and the dems are seen as fucking it up. They will absolutely on that principle alone switch teams and turn states red

They will absolutely on that principle alone switch teams and turn states red
Hahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahhahahahhahahahhhhahahahahahahahahaha, that's a good one m8!
Best I've heard this thread!

pretending to be retarded is still retarded

Obama was counting people turned away at the border as deportations. Trump stopped that mis-reporting so the apparent numbers fell.

We’ve been over this before on this board, many times.

11259979
Nah, endchan sucks, too slow.
There hasn't been another exodus, not in a meaningful sense - people just stopped coming here, they didn't all go someplace else together.

Prove it. ;^)

(29) posts of this quality

numbersusa.com/content/news/february-12-2013/how-obama-administration-inflates-deportation-statistics.html

yes, BASED spics will vote republican just like after Reagan amnesty which turned California from red to SUPER red

oh wait

still nothing of value to contribute

They aren't sending their best.

In fact, if we count removals and returns together historically, then the Obama administration numbers are not close to “record-setting.” In the 1990s, the totals of returns and removals were well over one million. For example, according to the yearbook of immigration statistics, in 1996, removals and returns numbered more than 1.6 million, up from more than 1.3 million in 1995.
Trump is deporting record numbers of illegals. More go every day.

Lying again, and proven by your own source!
You just can't catch a break alter-ego me!

amnesty debate they asked for
proposed spending bill that guts the gibs
dems running around like chickens with their heads cut off

(2) posts in the thread
both stale cuckchan maymays
contributing

Obama was inflating the numbers, how is this inaccurate?

Let’s handle one thing at a time.

Show any bean evidence of this
Dems attempting to sabatage their own attempts at making a deal
hilarity ensues

Eh, so what if Trump is Reagan? Regan was BASED.

cuckchan maymays
webm with sound
Wanna know how I know you're fucking retarded?

We had a choice between Trump, who wants them all gone but will settle for getting rid of most of them, and Hillary who wanted totally open borders and amnesty for all of them.

Trump isn’t perfect but he’s better than Her.

Isn't that your post?
Trump is deporting record numbers of illegals. More go every day.
And isn't this also your post?
And doesn't that post contain this link?
numbersusa.com/content/news/february-12-2013/how-obama-administration-inflates-deportation-statistics.html
And doesn't that link contain this information?
In fact, if we count removals and returns together historically, then the Obama administration numbers are not close to “record-setting.” In the 1990s, the totals of returns and removals were well over one million. For example, according to the yearbook of immigration statistics, in 1996, removals and returns numbered more than 1.6 million, up from more than 1.3 million in 1995.

Which would make you a liar, and not a very smart one either, wouldn't it?
Yeah, it would. ;^)

I really hope this is a shitpost. There's so much civnat cuckoldry in this thread I just can't even tell anymore.

muh lesser of two evils
muh kike false dialectic
Back to T___D nigger

Ironic shitposting is shitposting.
Reported for being from reddit. Kill yourself.

DEPORT THEM ALL OR YOU DON’T GET RE-ELECTED, TRUMP.

I’m a liar because you got BTFO
So maybe not RECORD numbers but lots more than Obama, OK? LOL.

I like how you put much more work into your shilling than I do my shitposting though. Sapping the total pool of shill hours available to your organization.

Yeah it’s much better to elect an open borders Democrat right! That’ll show your (((fellow whites))) my BASED user!

ha ha wow i can’t even TRY to reply to what was written
lol strawman
lol false dichotomy
lol do you believe my kike spamming now
Reported.

Reported.
Reported.

The election is over nigger, nobody cares about the Walking Corpse.

Now Trump has to stand on his own worth, and if he gives amnesty, he won't get a second term to try to prove said worth. DACA is non-negotiable - you cuck on that, you're giving up.

No, you're a liar because you lied, and you're an underhanded faggot in that you can't even admit it when its laid out before you with no way to avoid it.
Do you need me to rub your nose in it again? Ah, I'm not going to - it'll stay there, and anyone with any sense in reading the thread will see it, and you, for what they are.

I like how you put much more work into your shilling than I do my shitposting though.
I like how much you project.
Tell your boss I said "You're a faggot", ya lyin' twat.

it's (((democrat))) or (((republican))), goy

Thanks for admitting you’re a shill.
A Hillary presidency would have meant instant civil war. We would have reclaimed half our country by now, dipshit.

Mandatory voter ID laws better be in this DACA deal so those 1.8 million spics cant vote until their 12 years of reeducation is finished.

1. It’s not.
2. California is automatically registering all illegals to vote in the state, so voter ID doesn’t even matter anymore.

it will be 1.8 million and not one more, goy

12 years of reeducation
which will accomplish what?
they become BASED Reaganite constitutionalists?

I really hope my wife changes the locks on our house by next year so her boyfriend will be locked out by next year
All that needs to be done is to enforce our existing laws. It's already illegal to be a foreign national who overstays your legally allotted time (if you were ever given one). The punishment is deportation. No need to cuck yourself to make Trump look better, just stick up for your country and the rule of law for fucks sake.

So I guess nobody bothered to read because the word they used was reduce chain migration. Not end chain migration.

reduce
we want negative immigration

I like to focus on the word PATHWAY.
as in, here are the requirements, we lowered them a slight bit for you. If you can't achieve them, then you go home.
ENGLISH
JOB (i'd say 35k+)
DRUG TEST(it's not a difficult one, i know, but i mean, hey)
CLEAN CRIMINAL BACKGROUND (not even misdemeanors)
NEVER BEEN ON VIDEO WAVING A MEXICAN FLAG AROUND IN PROTEST
I'm sure plenty would pass, but we could atleast get rid of the shittiest of the shits.

I'd like to focus on the word illegal. These foreign nationals broke the law and now they have to go back. That's already the law. It's really simple. No need to bend over and prep the bull.

hurrdurr there are laws in the books which means they will be followed
until a democrat president decides not to

A Hillary presidency would have meant instant civil war

No it wouldn't, your grossly underestimating how docile the normalfag is. As long as there is bread and circus the normalfag will not raise a finger.

The problem is that republicans and democrats are our only choices. In a winner-takes-it-all political system you have to rally around the candidates capable of winning, because the losers get absolutely nothing. This encourages a two party system, where the parties fight over trivialities. As bad as the political climate is today, if we had a parliamentary system congress would be filled with representatives from nationalist parties, environmentalist parties, constitutionalist party, socialist parties, libertarian parties, conservative parties etc. It wouldn't be perfect, but it would ensure that voters would never have to vote for the lesser of two evils again.

I would assume C-SPAN would be covering…

A federal judge in New York ruled Tuesday that the government must fully restart the Obama-era DACA deportation amnesty and accept brand new applicants as well as renewals, throwing a potential wrench in the ongoing debate over the fate of “Dreamers” on Capitol Hill.
These activists judges have literally zero authority to do such things. Why does everyone pretend activist judges have powers they do not have? This shit should be ignored completely like it didn't even occur, like it's less than worthless, because it is.

republicans and democrats are our only choices.
No they aren't. It's literally this kind of self-containment that is absolutely devastating this country.

These activists judges have literally zero authority to do such things
but they do
This shit should be ignored completely
but it isn't and can't be

They don't. It's the same situation as blocking the travel ban. The judges do not posses the authority to dictate national immigration policy in complete violation of existing immigration law.

They have the authority to challenge the legality of a presidents' action (which they did, and have the authority to do). They're not dictating the policy, they're determining the legality of the action taken by the president. That's literally their job.

In theory you could vote for the green party or the libertarian party, but why waste your vote? (Let's disregard for the moment that the electoral college votes for the president and that your vote may be wasted no matter what; that's a different subject) Voting third party is currently a total waste of time, because even if they get like 30% of the vote and come in second they gain no political power whatsoever. You have to vote for one of the two major parties, unless there's a three-way split and a possibility that a third party may win. That's the only time when voting third party becomes viable.

There will never be another Democrat president.

then voting is useless since both parties are controlled

oy vey fall for my false dichotomy
ha ha you filthy goyim wouldn’t have risen up
You know nothing about Holla Forums, then. You’re only alive right now because she didn’t win.
OY
FUCKING
VEY
LET ME JUST HIT EVERY SINGLE LAST FUCKING CLICHED SHILL ARGUMENT HERE
DON’T WANT TO MISS A SINGLE ONE OF THEM
Get off the board. You don’t belong here. Nothing you believe is true.

You’re eight trillion percent retarded.

demographics strongly disagree
there were people who said the same thing after dubya was re-elected lol

(((C-SPAN)))
You have to buy cable to watch C-SPAN now. It's no longer a public service

then voting is useless since both parties are controlled
It's still possible for good, honest people to run as republicans and democrats, it's an uphill battle, but it is what it is.

it takes money to run for office and the party can shut you out if you refuse to play ball

I'm being realistic, they're out of money, their progressive ideologies are ensuring that their support base is fracturing, and so on.

White people have seen demographic boosts through birth rate while brown birth rates are falling.

The DNC is finished, and the Obama fuckery with the surveillance state will ensure this continues. Just sit back and enjoy the ride, it's not going to be good for the DNC and anti-whites like you.

What are you talking about? From a strategical standpoint, there's no good reason to vote third party. This isn't Canada, where the parties gets seats in parliament based on the number of votes, it's winner-takes-it-all.

White people have seen demographic boosts through birth rate while brown birth rates are falling
you have not provided one source for anything you've said the whole thread
Obama fuckery with the surveillance state
non-whites don't give a shit about stuff like that

Nah they don’t have that power either. Ninth Circuit was severely rebuked by the Supreme Court for overstepping their bounds with the travel ban.

I already told you that I don’t play the proofs game with shills like you user.

considering arabs, north africans and many spics are considered white in statistics would make any proof you have meaningless

realistic
No, you’re fantasizing like a fucking tD faggot.
out of money
YOU SERIOUSLY BELIEVE THIS?
ideology ensuring base fracture
According to what? It’s being solidified and expanded by MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL SPICS BECOMING LEGAL.

waste your vote
voting for the person who best represents my views is the purpose of voting. throwing my vote behind someone just because other people are is the definition of throwing your vote away.

We need to change that obviously.

In exchange for a wall, end to the lottery, and chain migration. It’s a very small price to pay, my kike Boomer full retard shillops tard.

what makes you think any number they give will be final or truthful?

Voting for the person who best represents my views is the purpose of voting
That's true, but when the polls show that when your candidate has no chance of winning you have to move on to the next best candidate, because if you stay with your dream candidate you are actually helping the person whom you dislike the most by not putting your vote behind a candidate that has the ability to challenge him.
It's counter-intuitive, but you have to vote for a candidate who has a path to victory.

The last time there was a possibility of a three-way split was in 92 when Ross Perot ran against Clinton & Bush. If Ross Perot had not dropped out and the polls had been close it would've been strategically viable to vote for any of the three candidates. In any other election voters had to rally around the two major candidates in order not to waste their vote.

Just cuz.

This exact same dance happened with California in 1980
My position remains the same: If this is just a word game thing to get excuse for deporting dreamers, so be it; However, if any Amnesty is passed, he loses my support.
That has been my position a year ago, that will be my position a year from now.

so if the election was between Hillary and Jeb I should have voted for Jeb?
lol
voting confirmed useless

It’s not amnesty and this isn’t the 1980s but nice blackpill.

if they call it something else it's not the same thing

in exchange for
IT. DOESN’T. FUCKING. MATTER.
Get the fuck out, you goddamn newfag. NOTHING MATTERS EXCEPT SAVING OUR RACE. A wall won’t do it. We’re outbred in TWENTY YEARS unless they’re all deported. Period. End of the game. No comebacks. They’ll tear down the wall the second Trump’s out of office and call it a Gorbachev moment.

If it gets passed the Democrats would turn it into Amnesty; Granted I don't expect it too pass, but I think it would be disastrous if it was.
But keep calling everyone who disagrees with you blackpilled and you are going to set yourself up for failure

If the election was between Hillary and Jeb I should have voted for Jeb?
That's a tough choice, but if you thought that Jeb was the lesser evil, you should've voted for him instead of a third party candidate without a path to victory.

oy vey there’s no path to victory
even if 90% of the population votes for him he won’t win ha ha
Why do you fucking shills think this will work here?

words have meaning and this bothers you

Gotta be smart about it, going full retard will never fly. Anyway I doubt you’re even white, you’re a kike shill.

Pilpuling
Get the fuck out you kike

words have meaning
not in politics

D and R dominate bc people think like you and throw their votes away for the sake of "winning". but its a false victory because that's not actually who you want to win. if people voted for who they actually want, the D/R hegemony doesn't work. you can perpetuate the cycle like a Stockholm syndrome prisoner or you can take ahold of the reigns.

ha ha wow you can’t possibly enforce the laws already on the books
wow you could never do that it’s dumb
you have to be smart and NOT enforce the law
you have to be smart and NOT save the race
it would be dumb otherwise
Get out.

if this thing which isn’t amnesty is passed its amnesty
Hard to convince me of something when you can’t even understand our language user. Nice pilpul though.

our
Get out kike

Not all things live in a vacuum. I suspect that the anti gibs move to end snap and replace it with food boxes was designed to fuck with the dems on this. I also suspect that this may be a strong arm negotiation tactic. The dems will say no to something in this, or the cucksertives will do something stupid, and trump will kick it back in a game of corporate hazing.

not our fault if you know nothing about immigration policies enacted since 1965

amnesty for everyone totally isn’t amnesty for everyone
it isn’t because i say so
lol why are you so worried
WHY ARE THESE PEOPLE NOT BANNED YET

Don't blame me, user. I am just the messenger.

D and R dominate bc people think like you and throw their votes away for the sake of "winning"
That's true, but it's also irrelevant. If your candidate has no way of winning the presidential race you must switch candidates in order to make a difference. The way out of this dilemma is not to vote third party, but to reform the electoral process and the way political power is distributed among the candidates.

Nice pilpul but I never said we shouldn’t enforce the laws on the books. Removal of DACA would be the best thing as long as we can get the wall and an end to chain migration and the visa lottery, but if allowing a couple hundred thousand taco niggers in in exchange for this stuff is better than no deal and keeping the current immigration system.

No kike.

I do, Trump's plan would basically undo all the pozzed immigration laws though.

Reported.

That's what I suspect too, but it does turn out that this ends up with amnesty thens that it.
Frankly I'm uncomfortable they are even humoring this, even if it just leads to justification saying "we tried, but we have to deport DACA now"

I WILL CONTINUE TO ARBITRARILY CLAIM THERE IS “NO WAY TO WIN”
you must base your entire argument on my false premise
No.
i never said what i said
Okay, shlomo.
allowing… …in exchange
THERE IS NO EXCHANGE. THERE IS NO COMPROMISE. THE COUNTRY STOPS EXISTING UNLESS EVERYONE GOES BACK. THERE ARE NO EXCEPTIONS. THIS IS ONLY DIFFICULT FOR PAID SHILLS TO COMPREHEND, AND YOU ARE NOT COMPREHENDING IT.
paid shill reporting me outing shills
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

So why not just win a more seats in 2018 and get everything we want then?

Reported.

Sounds great, we can always do that too.

because republicans don't want any of the things you want either

paid shill ran out of scripted replies
thinks he can report people who expose his paid shilling
AMNESTY = GENOCIDE. YOU CANNOT REFUTE THIS.
THE WALL IS MEANINGLESS WITHOUT DEPORTATIONS. YOU CANNOT REFUTE THIS.

Then how about we do that instead of having Trump's base collaspe
Of course they don't, I'm just pointing out the flaw in the other user's arguement

The way out of this dilemma is not to vote third party, but to reform the electoral process and the way political power is distributed among the candidates.
reform the electoral process
by continuing to vote for republicans and democrats

Trump is forcing them to choose between what the cuckservatives’ corporate backers want them to do and what the voters who elect them want to do. The cucks chose the tax reform even though many of the corporate backers didn’t want it because they wish to stay in power. He can simply keep doing this.

From what i understand, the dems filibustered this and tried to stop it. Something is going on. This stinks like controlled anarchy. I am hoping that this is a shennigan and not some attempt to allow taco niggers into the country.

This reminds me of the first shut down attempt, when trump kept kicking the deals back. The house will get this, Trump will say "this is bad, fix this" then back to square one.

Meanwhile, other moves are being made, on multiple fronts.

This is very much the time of challenging, a lot of things are in the air right now, and we can not afford to blink.

Good thing the current plan doesn’t include any form of amnesty then. It’s a back of the line program, the one Trump campaigned on.

Trump’s base will collapse
Nice blackpill.

That probably will keep happening
I mean there is that whole seditious conspiracy thing the FBI engaged in that no one seems to care about

ha ha amnesty isn’t amnesty lol wow
Reported.
Amnesty = 1 term for your civic nationalist.
Meanwhile go back to reddit.

Dude, people voted for Trump and repealed all criticism for a single reason: To build the fucking wall and kick the illegals out.
As long as Trump works towards this goal, they'll stick with him; However, should he do something like pass a bill giving amnesty in practice, then his support will fracture.
It's as simple as that.

(calling ppl simple minded and not seeing the strategy yet…hilarious)
Too many dumbasses to tag so here we go.
The first time Trump made talk of this, I understand people getting concerned.
The second time, I would hope people had seen the pattern,
but now, anyone who can't see what is going on is fuckin retarded.
It is all about FRAMING. This is not "4D chess," and people who call it such appear more like people who don't understand what strategy is than anything.
Trump wants wall funding
Dems will NOT cave on wall funding
Trump obviously knows this
Trump says he wants to make a deal with the democrats multiple times, with varying compromises, this frames him as making a BIPARTISAN
He does this knowing it will be shut down because it is contingent on wall funding
This frames the dems as not only obstructionist, but also as not caring enough about the DACA applicants
Think "Trump is offering to help all of us, you won't take that deal because he want's a border wall?"
Think of the optics this will have when illegals are getting fired from their jobs (well the one who even have fucking jobs lol)
Every deportation will be seen as enabled by the dems
This is a play for the midterms…the moderates and undecided will see this and remember
Trumps frame: Bipartisan, wants to fund our military, wants to protect the border
Dems frame: Weak, obstructionist, don't care about DACA recipients

It's not some crazy 4d move, its the most powerful move he can make, excellent leverage and framing, he would be a fool to miss the chance to do what he is doing. I have held this belief since the first time, and every single time you spergs on here freak out about this and call him the zog emperor, I am vindicated. Why would this be any different?
DACA will expire on the 5th. Just watch. This should be obvious to you by now but if you're too addicted to the endorphin rush of going on Holla Forums and calling trump a failure or a shill because he isn't cutting kikes heads off on national TV, just watch.

Let me demonstrate why it is imperative to switch candidates (again, let's ignore the electoral college for now)

Who would you vote for?
Polls on the day before the election:
Candidate A, Total scumbag; 50%
Candidate B, Scumbag who do the right thing in some areas: 40%
Candidate C, Dream candidate: 10%

In this scenario the only reason to vote for candidate C is to "send a message", because he has no way of winning the presidency. By voting for your dream candidate, you are missing out on the opportunity to potentially put candidate B into office with with whom you have more in common.

How do you not see your circular logic?
only R and D will win
Why
because there are only two parties that can win
why
because people only vote for R or D
why
because only R and D can win

I hope you do some deep reflection on this way of thinking. You are the problem that perpetuates this cycle. All it takes is not voting D or R. That's it. But one will never notice their chains unless they try to move.

see
to understand why you're a fucking retard.
All caps+redtext, way to be upfront about your boneheaded idiocy

Now ask yourself why candidate A and candidate B and candidate C have those odds.

Let's say option A is getting your balls cut off. Option B is getting your dick cut off. and option C is a big bowl of ice cream. How do you vote?

I never said that only republicans and democrats can win, but that more often than not it will come down to a race between two strong candidates followed by second-tier candidates who have no way of winning. It doesn't matter if the front-runners are republicans and democrats, you have to pick one or the other unless there's a three-way or four-way tie, which is unlikely.

What part of “WE’RE NOT GOING TO ACCEPT YOUR FALSE PREMISE” was unclear?

who have no way of winning
THATS ONLY TRUE IF STOCKHOLM SYNDROME FAGGOTS LIKE YOU CONTINUE TO PANDER TO A SYSTEM THATS KILLING YOUYOU STUPID FUCKING FUCK

Unless you can convince a significant portion of the voting population to vote 3rd party, good luck. I'm not saying it is impossible, but what I am saying is that it's really easy to talk about in theory on an imageboard. When you consider the practicality, it becomes difficult to imagine why anybody would focus that much energy on it.
It is not time for a 3rd party. The window is not yet there, and quite honestly the easier thing to do, from a practical point of view and not a theoretical, would be to change the GOP from the inside out. Trump has served as an example of how this is possible, and happening. Today, its a light shift to a more right-wing populism. Gradually, it will become more. Much easier and legitimate of an idea in todays political theater.

lol u dum i have no argument
AMNESTY = ONE TERM
AMNESTY = GENOCIDE
entire post gives no justification for OFFERING AMNESTY TO THE ILLEGALS HE WAS ELECTED ON DEPORTING
Nah.

Holy shit dude.

Well, in real-life you have other options, like moving to canada, etc,
From a strategical standpoint though, you'd have to vote for option A or B if C has not enough votes behind it.

I don't like the system, i'm just telling you what it is.

When the Whig party was in the process of dying the new republican party replaced it in regions of the country. They did not win the presidency for about a decade. Any viable 3rd party is going to have to make concrete gains at lower offices first before moving on to the big enchilada. 3rd party for president may be out of reach because the only visible big name candidates are literal retards like gary johnson. Winning mayorships/local reps/state reps/congressional reps on the other hand is entirely within reach and can be achieved with much less money at the local level.

Imagine what they're going to do when the dems throw them under the bus to (temporarily) preserve their other sources of beaner votes. We're likely to see the hilarious spectacle of them chimping out violently whilst the judenpresse tries to sell them as innocent child victims.

Okay, now how do we change that? What is your plan?
I hope you didn't read my post that I linked you to, because if you did, all that tells me is that your reading comprehension is terrible.

Let me recap: WE WILL NOT GET AMNESTY. Amnesty is being used as a bargaining tool in exchange for something that will not be caved on before the 5th, which is wall funding. Trump knows this, everyone with a brain knows this.

These amnesty proposals are DOA. Read my earlier post (which was my argument…)

entire post gives no justification for offering amnesty
yes it fucking does, or maybe you can't see that because your mind is so one dimensional it cant comprehend what LEVERAGE, FRAMES, and STRATEGY are.
Dumber than a nigger, why are you here? Lurk more, read more, think more critically, or fuck off.
yeah dude?
This IS true. All politics boil down to the local.

half-chan Holla Forums has become too much like reddit
so I decide to come to cripple chan to see if it is still doing better
it's become what half-chan Holla Forums was like a year ago
…So this is weird.

From a practical point of view and not a theoretical, would be to change the GOP from the inside out.
That's precisely what is happening. The commies have no way of getting a communist party off the ground, so what did they do? They joined the democratic party and ran their candidates as dems. What did the libertarians do? They joined the republican party and ran their candidates as reps. What did the "independents" do? They picked a party and ran for office. Trump is a good example of the latter.

Reported.

He campaigned on a back of the line citizenship deal too. If that’s what it takes to get the wall it’s fine.

They already hate Republicans, can’t get any madder at them. The Democrats will suffer greatly and most acutely in the communities they live and work in, like LA and NYC.

For you maybe but not everyone will see it that way

The poster you replied to isn’t eve a Trump voter.

da DNC will look sooooooper bad
It's been repeated to your ilk countless times this thread, so I suppose it bears repeating again: the democratic base, that is the politically illiterate shitskins who vote based on gibs and tribal loyalty (coupled with deranged libshits who despise white people equally), will vote for the democrats DESPITE being the resentful ingrates towards them that they always fucking are. They will blame republicans per usual.
moderates and undecided
…are completely worthless in wooing, if that means abandoning the hardline immigration policy that got you into power. Cucking on DACA and giving anything less than 100% on deportations will cause the conservative white people who voted for Trump to jump ship so fast your head will spin. And by jump ship, I mean not turn out for elections, which doesn't matter anyway since all parties enact anti-white policies regardless of what their constituencies want.

meant to reply to

I read the post, yeah. Still waiting for your justification.
bargaining tool
Yeah, see, it’s not a bargaining tool. It’s not something on which there can be a compromise. Period. If you think that we compromise here, you need to leave.
they totally won’t cave, goyim
the wall is important
the wall matters
amnesty for 30 million spics totally doesn’t matter in comparison
ignore that the wall will simply be torn down once the white majority is lost forever
And you expect us to believe you?
no argument
still no argument
can’t refute what was said
acts indignant when he gets blown the fuck out
comes from cuckchan and expects anyone to give a shit about him
The moderation team is the same in both places, you fucking kike. What did you expect?
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA MOMMY THE BAD MAN PROVED I’M A SHILL
oy vey you stupid fucking racists you’re the only ones who know the truth
What’s your POINT?
you didn’t vote for trump because i say you didn’t
amnesty isn’t genocide goyim
just let them stay nothing will change
WHY HAVE THE SHILLS NOT BEEN BANNED YET

see
my bad man

i don't like the system
i just go along with it and perpetuate it
even though I don't have to
this is you.
How do we change that? Simple. Vote for who best represents you instead of who is most likely to win. When you support voting for a "lesser evil" you're implicitly supporting voting for evil. Don't vote for evil. That's the solution.

Ah, no worries.

Pretty much fucking this, maybe actually look into local republican primaries for once, it's not that hard to get our guys in through there

I know you’re not a Trump voter because your extremely distinctive brand of asshurt was shilling against him and continues.

Nobody believes you, and you’d do better if you didn’t make all your posts as distinctive as they are. You can IP hop all day and people can pick out every one of your posts.

Learn to be less distinctive. You’re hurting your shill game. Might as well post a cat or anime pic every time.

earlobe spacing
a trump voter must agree with everything he does
everyone I don't like is a shill
Please stop

Okay. I've been right 3 or 4 times on this. I will be right come March 5th.
It's not something on which there can be a compromise
Lad, he isn't trying to get a compromise. Stop seeing everything at face value. He knows these proposals will be DOA. He isn't trying to give out amnesty in exchange for a wall. He is providing a favorable frame for the midterms. It WILL NOT HAPPEN, and he is not trying to make it happen.
I don't know how you seem to think I believe it to be a compromise of any sort. That's not the point of what I'm typing. Your reading comprehension is painfully shitty.
The wall is important
The wall matters
yes, it is and does
Amnesty for the 30 million spics totally doesn't matter in comparison
Yeah, good thing that's not the goal and will not happen, and that's been my point the whole time.
ignore that the wall will be simply torn down once the white majority is lost forever
This is implying trump wants to give Amnesty to them…which he doesn't, and isn't possible, because anything requiring wall funding is DOA, you fucking moron, that's the whole point

also, lol
The wall will be torn down so dont even worry about it guys
The wall will slow illegal immigration, the wall is a powerful aesthetic, and the wall was his biggest promise, a morale booster.

To rehash it for your dumb one-track mind:
DACA will expire on the 5th
Trump does not want to give 1.8 million amnesty
Trump knows anything w/ wall funding is DOA
It is a frame game
IT IS DOA WITH WALL FUNDING (saying again because you can't seem to grasp this)
Just lol at anybody who thinks this deal will be made or who thinks trump is trying to make the deal.
I will be vindicated, once again, on March 5th (Which I believe to be the day DACA protections expire)
You are a moron. Please give up, faggot.

you didn’t vote for trump because i say so
you’re shilling because i say so
no one believes you because i say so
you’re IP hopping because i say so
no one could ever possibly disagree with me, so you’re all one person because i say so
>amnesty isn’t genocide because i say so
lol fag
absolutely nothing can ever be critical of trump ever at any time for any reason he is god he is perfect he is unquestionable
/reddit/index.html

Yes, but how is that implemented into a mass social movement? There is a lot more work needed than just voting individually. You need local frameworks, local outreach, etc.

Let's look at it from your perspective. What does voting your conscience and check the box next to your favorite candidate who is polling at 5% accomplish. Does that change the system?

That shill isn’t a Trump voter.

That’s the kind of disctinctive posting which outs you every time.

Look into local primaries, sometimes it surprising how few people get involved them; There have been cases were only one person runs for election in my area and is instantly elected to represent a town

You sound like you have come right from /r/the_donald
You are the literal goyim of the Trump movement

he knows
And YOU know this how?
it will not happen
Literally everything the jews have ever wanted to happen in the last century has happened, and now their ““““““““““opposition”””””””””” is literally offering up what they want on his own. I have absolutely no reason to believe what you say is true. Give me a reason to believe it.
the wall matters
It’s literally fucking meaningless. 100% worthless. If the spics aren’t deported, the wall could be 500 feet above ground, 500 feet below ground, and 50 feet thick of solid titanium and America is still GUARANTEED to be lost.
Trump doesn’t want to give amnesty
ignore where he’s publicly offering amnesty
You need to give us a REASON to believe you.
I will be vindicated
Sure you will, moishe. I bet you believe Q-LARP, too.

We need organizations with emphasis on local level politics, and then we would need a common party to run local across various states. Build from the ground up. Requires infrastructure. Would need something to run on, common goals and optics etc.

Wow you’re mad, are you OK?

Reported for admitting to being a kike shill who believes that white genocide isn’t happening.

Reported
Reported.

(53)
tries to get us to believe that white genocide isn’t happening
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Definitely something to start building up now

Where did I do that?

Reported.

I'm stating a fact; Half-chan literally used you to destabilize reddit. You all are the definition of Goyim.

where did I do the thing that I explicitly did
Type the following sentence: “Amnesty for nonwhites is white genocide.”

But Trump isn’t offering amnesty. Words have meaning, my Jewish friend.

Now you repeat this: “Gas all Jews without exception.”

EVERYONE SHUT UP
Randlet is talking.

twitter.com/RandPaul/status/963534444899524613

He's starting to break; Now he is just spamming reported.
Even if ironic shitposting, it's still pathetic.

The thing about amnesty is that it alters the demographics of the nation long term, so there are no short-term goals that you would trade for amnesty, but there are some long-term goals that you could trade for amnesty and a wall that reduces the amount of foreigners flooding into the country would be one of them.
The question is: Does the wall prevent more foreigners from entering the country than are given legal status through amnesty? The best option would be to reject amnesty and build a wall.

OY
FUCKING
VEY
IT’S NOT AMNESTY
WE TOTALLY DIDN’T DO THE SAME LIE IN 1965
Reported. Thanks for admitting you support white genocide.

They are going to try to rely on the lower court ruling on DACA to Ram this through the back door. Lol. Meanwhile the spics will just see the DNC using them as pawns.

Trump isn’t offering amnesty though.

what happened in 1965 will happen now because you say so
I knew you were a kike. Just type it out, “O YHVH, my GOD, please gas all Jewish people without exception.” You can’t do it.

IT’S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN, GOYIM
TRUST US
This is how retarded white genocide shills actually are. This is what they expect us to believe.

and YOU know this how
1) You have to be dumb or not paying attention to not notice that the proposal would be DOA (Trump is neither)
2) Democrat leaders have LITERALLY said that with wall funding will never be caved on. They have basically made public the idea that any wall funding requirements will make it DOA. Pay attention, dummy!
Literally everything the jews have ever wanted to happen in the last century has happened
no
now their "opposition" is literally offering up what they want on his own
Oh my god dude how do you not understand yet? How could anybody be THIS much of a simpleton?
No, he is not "offering" it up, stop being such a surface-level analyst. He is "offering it up" contingent on wall funding, which makes it DOA. Do you understand frames? strategy? Obviously not.
literally fucking meaningless
100% worthless
fucking lol. Lrn about how many illegals pour over the border, then learn the conservative estimates of how many the wall would stop, then run that number through 10 years, 20 years, and so on
Also, you must realize it was Trumps biggest promise, it is NECESSARY to have it up, you haven't a single cell in your brain that can comprehend strategy or see beyond the immediate, jesus fuck lad

And I mean, I have been vindicated countless times against you stupid fucks who refuse to think beyond surface level.

rely on the lower court ruling on DACA to Ram this through the back door
Are they stupid enough to actually think that will work? YESThe answer is yes

Why won’t you write out an earnest prayer to the God of the Jews to gas all Jews? Because you can’t, because you’re a kike, not just any kike, but a kike with a very distinctive whiff of faggotry which we all recognize.

Literally everything the jews have ever wanted to happen in the last century has happened
<no
Go fuck yourself. You know nothing about the last century, then. You have absolutely no capability to reply to the conversation.
Lrn about how many illegals pour over the borde
IMMIGRATION COULD STOP TOMORROW AND WE WILL STILL BE BRED OUT OF EXISTENCE. YOU NEED TO READ POSTS BEFORE REPLYING, SHILL.

Their only fight against the travel ban was based on the same tactic. They haven’t tried to fight it at all except by way of little faggy tactics from lower courts.

It’s funny but also great because it exposes the activist judges which the libtards claim don’t exist in the first place.

Gas the kikes, race war now.
WHY WON’T YOU SAY THAT AMNESTY IS GENOCIDE, PAID SHILL WHO IS OPENLY ADVOCATING FOR AMNESTY?

There’s that extremely distinctive, Jewish posting style I like to see. You’re probably responsible for half the shilling on this board.

SAY THAT AMNESTY IS GENOCIDE, JEWISH PAID SHILL.

No no, you have to phrase it as an earnest prayer to Jehova, the God of the Jews.

SAY THAT AMNESTY IS GENOCIDE, JEWISH PAID SHILL.

Amnesty is white genocide, thank Kek that Trump isn’t proposing amnesty at all.

They did not win the presidency for about a decade
This is a good point. The Republicans themselves were also an amalgamation of Free Soil party voters. They had a strong presence in New York, NH, Illinois and Mass. where they had previously been free soilers, and before that, Jacksonian Democrats. There were several Democratic-Free Soil coalitions in the 1850's that set the stage for the Republican Party. The key here is continuity mixed with the possibility of great change. A new party would have to incorporate aspects of American-style conservatism, but re-direct it in a non-kosher way.
Okay. I've been right 3 or 4 times on this. I will be right come March 5th
I earnestly hope you're right again, and the Democrats shoot both their figurative feet off, and nothing goes through while DACA dies like it should have done months ago.

trump isn’t doing the thing he’s doing
Great going, shill.

Im not owned im not owned im not owned im not owned
fucking lol, you're out of arguments (which you didn't have in the first place)
I cannot wait until march 5th when no amnesty is given. It's a shame I wont be able to shove it in your dumb fucking face.

Words have meaning and Trump isn’t proposing amnesty.

DACA is fucking done, they're all going back. All these naysaying faggots will be back next week with the new script. kek

you have no arguments because i say so
now i don’t have to reply to any of your arguments
Reported.
lol u dum i win i smart
We’re in for a fun three years.
trump isn’t doing what he’s doing
Okay, shlomo.

You absolutely will be able to, that faggot has an unmistakable faggoty posting style and he will be here kvetching on the 5th, I guarantee it. It’s his job you know.

Quite a few of us before the election expressed concerns that Trump was going to be a release valve, doing just enough to pander to the voters while doing nothing to change the demographics.

And it looks like we were dead right. I'm going to be voting for the most nutjob liberal I can find from now on, fuck this neocon cuckservative bullshit. Accelerationism or death.

Words have meaning
So what's your word of choice?

His favorite phrase is “totally not like 1965, goyim”

I sure hope so, but even with the proposed deal it’d be a win as long as we get the wall and an end to the lottery and chain migration.

Words have meaning and Trump isn’t proposing amnesty.

lol you’re a paid shill because everything you said is true and i can’t refute any of it
Great going.
trump isn’t doing the thing he has publicly stated he is doing
Reported for kike spam.

Im reporting you because you just owned me
k
We're in for a fun 3 years
I agree, lots of vindication for people like me, and lots of kvetching from one-dimensional thinkers like you.
I didn't want to call him a kike, but he sure as hell argues like one. Can't stand faggots like that

how do we implement this
Do exactly what I'm doing now. Point out to others how circular and self-defeating their logic is when it comes to voting D/R and shame them for voluntarily perpetuating a system they hate. The only person's vote you have direct control over is your own, so the best form of direct action is being the change you want others to be.
what does voting for someone who best represents you accomplish
it doesn't perpetuate a dystopian system that's eroding the foundation of representative democracy.

one thing happens in 1965 which is materially different than this thing, which will undo most of the nonsense implemented since then
Words have meaning my Jewish friend.

“AMNESTY FOR ILLEGALS WOULD BE A WIN.”
t. Paid kike shill

amnesty is different from amnesty
jews totally will keep their word this time
allowing any number of nonwhites in the country is acceptable
lol paid shill

It’s not amnesty and it will ensure that a much larger number of shitskins are kept out. Of course it’s a win.

still thinking that trump is trying to give amnesty to illegals
Doesnt understand contingency of wall funding means DOA
Still think's they're getting amnesty
What's it like being this much of a brainlet lol

lad, it's nothing, it cannot and will not happen. Just watch. DACA will expire, NO compromises will be made regarding DACA. None. Not one. It is dead in the water, and it leaves in less than a month.

amnesty isn’t amnesty
This is the best shilling money can buy.
u dum i say so no i don’t have to prove you wrong or justify any of my claims
What kind of fucking faggot underestimates jews?

If it's not Amnesty, what would you call it?
Btw. what happened in 1965? I'm only familiar with the 1986 Amnesty under Reagan.

You’re the paid shill and your distinctive faggoty style is unmistakeable. Everybody knows you by now, you’re a Jew.

Trump isn’t proposing amnesty.

In 1965 a bunch of Jews lied to get their way and harm the goyim, same as now.

you’re a paid shill because you out paid shills
you’re a jew because you want to exterminate jews
“AMNESTY FOR ILLEGALS WOULD BE A WIN.”
t. Paid kike shill

Trump isn’t proposing amnesty.

if I repeat it a trillion times it magically becomes true
oy vey jews lied then but they sure aren’t lying now
“AMNESTY FOR ILLEGALS WOULD BE A WIN.”
t. Paid kike shill

“AMNESTY FOR ILLEGALS WOULD BE A WIN.”
t. Paid kike shill

This is correct, the "republican" congres is.

Trump isn’t proposing amnesty.

“AMNESTY FOR ILLEGALS WOULD BE A WIN.”
t. Paid kike shill

I sure hope so
Actually, I'm mistaken. They won't let off of this till March 5, when DACA expires. They'll likely tucker as the weeks pass and the bill takes on more flops and everyones talking shit on twitter.
it’d be a win
There's like 200k even signed up for the damn thing. Trump is offering them 1.8mil free beaners and they're gonna throw 'em in the trash haha.

Going to screencap all your posts so I can remind Holla Forums how much of a dumbass you are when I turn out to be right and you turn out to be wrong. Stay mad, brainlet!

has no argument
can’t refute what anyone says
can’t substantiate his claims
lol u dum i win now

Holla Forums is fucking dead, we never should have gotten involved in the election. Look at all these shills pushing for fucking amnesty like it's some kind of win. Fuck this place, I'm going to find a hobby and wait for the race war.

“But but but but but but but it’s totally not amnesty, you stupid goy!”

I like how this has been ignored. The bill is going nowhere.

I presented my argument, you literally did not provide an argument. Your argument amounts to "He said he would do this so he is going to do this"
You are possibly the single most buttmad individual I have seen on here, but I understand, I'd be the same way if I was a literal retard too.
I look forward to seeing you when I'm vindicated, the screencaps are ready faggot
The amnesty is a frame game, it's dead on arrival when it is contingent on wall funding, it will NEVER HAPPEN, that is the whole fucking point.

I'm going to find a hobby and wait for the race war.
If you aren't already putting this to practice, you should lurk moar.

"Hurr but trump said hed do amnesty that definitely means he wants to do amnesty and plans on it, right"

you have no argument
you just expect someone to keep his word
ha ha you’re dumb now
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screen caps
Of what, me denouncing amnesty? Oh boy, you’ll sure win people over by supporting that here.

Oh boy, you’ll sure win people over by supporting that here
Just atrocious. Y'all used to be better at this.

so mentally fucking defective that he can’t even reply
lol

What user? Pointing out the bill is going nowhere is me saying it's dead on arrival which is what you've said, shills getting to you?