Living with parents

I could understand requiring your kids to pay for their own needs and for their share of utilities or something, but rent? To one's parents?
I'm a Stirnerite and the only word I can think of for this is "evil".

rather, it is a sign of change in the base.

I wouldn't mind contributing to household upkeep if I lived with my parents, but they treat me like a tenant rather than a son. It's still 'their house', they'd just be letting me live in it.

I know a bunch of people who have had to do this. America.

Yeah. It confirms the Marxist thesis concerning family as part of the superstructure and economics as the base. When social democratic policies were common, the traditional multi-generational family structure began to change. The New Deal brought about an age when state-regulated modified capitalism was seen to be the norm. Young people could afford to buy their own homes very early on. Those social democratic policies were assaulted during the neoliberal age, reversing this trend. The poorer the people the more the multi-generational family structure holds.

no such thing as a free meal. i had two jobs when i was your age. the baby boomer bank account gotta be littered with millennial hopes and dreams.

B-but pol told me communism was destroying marriage and culture! What's going on here!?

It's funny how they continue to blame communists even with the total collapse of the communist movement in the late twentieth century. It's almost like something else is responsible for social change. Something that is indifferent to sentimentality and nostalgia. Hmm.

…is the answer Jews?

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Student loan debt is most likely going to kill me tbh

There "is nothing wrong" with the decision to remain living alongside your parents; you should simply try to be supportive. The cultural pressure to move out at early adulthood is related to a bourgeois notion of "freedom" that is ultimately conducive to lining the pockets of private landlords, maybe.

On the other-hand and as others have said, yes, original-poster, times are becoming evermore difficult for the (to-be-)in-debt Millennial, and staying within your parents' dwelling is unfortunately and increasingly becoming the economic sensible "choice".

It is amusing to see this era of capitalism crush the values of the conservative liberal.

That is pitiful.

It would be amusing if it weren't for the fact that this doesn't change their actions at all. Instead they blame a left-bogeyman for the results of their own policies, simultaneously absolving them of responsibility, allowing them to deny any need to change their policies and legitimizing further assaults on the left.

Well, are you taking for granted that the parents OWN the place? Don't judge, I know a guy who has to pay his share of the rent of the family apartment. If the whole household is struggling to make ends meet, what would you do?

Her parents just opened up a fitness studio and are considering dropping the rent to $365 a month. Truly she is a fortunate and blessed individual.

Is there anything more Porkyish than this? Doing chores is fair enough but fucking hell.

Anyway this is a good thread and one that is very relevant to young people all over the advanced countries.

I've zero chance of ever moving out. Personally I don't mind living at home and I like the idea of a multi-generational home but people are being forced into it by the economic situation rather than freely choosing it. Like an user said above, the superstructure is crumbling.

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Fuck boomers

If they OWN the place, why the fuck are they charging rent? If they OWN it, they're not still paying a debt on it. The only justification would be splitting the property tax or some shit.

Oh, gee, maybe pool resources to pay for what the household needs instead of establishing a hierarchy based on propertarian values and extracting wealth from the bottom of the ladder.

Completely wrong approach to be honest. They're too deluded to know any better. Pic related is the only right way to feel toward them.

there literally is.

whew this triggered me and I didn't even notice it was satire

It was either pay to live with a random stranger or live at home.

Forget about taxes, food literally grows on trees. Much of it has evolved specifically to be food, so that animals who eat it can help spread its seeds. Meals aren't free because scarcity is artificially imposed.

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Why? Their generation was probably the most 'socialist' of all and yet they are the one that started the anti-socialism narrative until almost no one knows what that word means anymore

Oh, your friend is petit bourgeois. Then I bet she can easily afford the rent, due to all her connections.

No, the ruling class started that narrative. The boomers bought it because they were indoctrinated to and the cold war made that very easy. If you want to hate someone, hate the gen-Xers who didn't fucking stop the boomers.

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… my friend doesn't own or work for her parent's business. Please think before you post.

My grandfather was bourgeois, but my grandmother and parents were both working class, so I'm one quarter bourgeois.

LOL

that's not how this works

Which mango is this from user?

No you stupid fucking faggot

I just don't get it. Thankfully my own grandparents were mostly born in the 30s so they grew up with an appreciate for unions and leftism. But with all the sixties nostalgia and hell even 70s nostalgia that the boomers indulge in its like they don't even notice the radical leftist influence or events in their past. Maybe its mostly porky boomers alive these days given the gap in life expectancy between proles and porkies.

I have to say, something I've seen with my own parents is the "I'm-fixing-to-die" attitude and in the case of the boomers that seems to mean grab everything you can on the way out.

This is mostly correct. The "Generational Wars" narrative is mostly a way to split working class solidarity by splitting the working class along generational lines.

A clear example of such shadow-chasing is demonstrated by the American Ben Shapiro. He manages to never miss an opportunity to reproach the growing, societal failure of the realization of his values, for which he lays blame on the "left", all whilst professing his firm faith in the free market.

From amusement to disappointment, you are correct.

The Irish are here!

Yes this has been obvious to anyone who is not libshit or classcucked since early 2000's and has accelerated dramatically since housing crisis

Both. We recognize that work holds no value if we do not keep the fruits of our labor or labor on our terms at firms/corps that represent our interests among co-workers whom we would associate with outside work (how many of your co-workers would you actually want to hang out with?). In addition, capitalism is showing its diminishing returns which peaked in the 1960's and are now all but gone for anyone who is not upper-middle class management or bourgeois scum

???

Me-Teru no Kimochi
Other name: め～てるの気持ち; Maternal Feelings

It's by the same guy who did Gantz.

kissmanga.com/Manga/Me-Teru-no-Kimochi

Nice, is it about this NEET who's dad remarries and then dies soon after, and then new mom gets him out of NEETdom? I recognized the image as I read it years ago, but I completely forgot about this series

Yeah, that's the one. You see his latest manga with the Chanster-Massacre?

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You ever seen It's A Wonderful Life, Holla Forums?

Sure, it's got its fair share of spooks, but take the character George Bailey, pictured here.

He had dreams, he had ambitions. He wanted to see the world, in fact. But he didn't, because a lot of unfair things happened to him, so he remained shackled to his parents' business his entire life, and never went anywhere or did anything he wanted.

Well, if you subtract the business, you get my life. Every time I tried to make a better life for myself, something always came along to take that away. My dad's cancer, my dad's stroke, my dad's accident, my sister's melanoma, my sister's cancer, my sister getting thrown out of her house, my parents almost going homeless, my sister needing a car, and so on and so on.

I could have been an asshole and let my family fend for themselves, but I didn't. So to this day I remain at home, and the way it's looking I'll probably never have a chance to leave and do the things I wanna do, like have a boyfriend or create a local communist party.

I guess you could say I chose it, but I couldn't bring myself to do otherwise.

No, I haven't. What's that about?

He gets sick of being trolled online!! He's fucking had enough of you god damn trolls!!!

Fuck your parents; look after your sister. There. I just cut your problems by two thirds.

Parents have to cut off their kids sometimes but it goes both ways. They're adults. Don't ruin your own life for theirs.

This is what happens when thatcherism occurs.
You eliminate the step ladder for new business.

Also cultural marxism ironically also did not help.
You can't pander to the poor. But you shouldn't also reject them.

Spooks are real but also a lie in itself structurally. You need the spooks to keep the society glued together. Otherwise you get the apathetic cessput we have today.

cesspit*

It's called Inu Yashiki.

These aliens crash land on Earth and accidentally kill a random old man and a high school kid, so to make amends they rebuild them robocop style with all types of built in features. The old man becomes Jesus, saving homeless people in the park and healing terminally ill patients secretly and the high schooler goes full Tetsuo with his powers.

kissmanga.com/Manga/Inu-Yashiki

The real big difference is just how many people live alone.

actually living in a multi generational house, without elderly homes and boarding schools has been the norm for most of history for every class

do you think we'd revert to that under communism?

In the US there are already plenty of homes and they're constantly building more, it's just that no one can afford to buy them.

Compare that to Marinaleda in Spain where they'll build a house for you.

More empty homes and more homeless people.

What comic is this from?

Marinaleda is a special case though

Exactly this. The de-industrialized economy is recreating the extended family unit out of the ruins of the nuclear family.

Thank god my wife and I can afford to live alone. I would rather find a dumpster in an alley than live with my father again. Dude is not a bad guy, but the freedom that comes with living alone is not something that I could surrender again.

I would argue that family is a part of the base in that it is ultimately an economic unit. Family structures are almost completely means to economic survival. It has collective income and collective expenses and changes shape to meet economic necessities.

TRUE OR FALSE?!

If you had a good relationship with your parents you will be pro-family.

If you had a bad relationship with your parents you will be anti-family and use all sorts of rationalizations to call it a "spook."

I have a good relationship with my parents and all of my family and I'm anti-family.

The subject of this thread is the economic cause of this phenomena

That makes no sense, you could make the argument that someone who never experienced a family will be intersted in having one

False.

Actually I'd think those with a shitty homelife would be more pro-family, seeing the shit they've never had in an idealized form and probably glossing over the bad stuff. Dave Thomas (the Wendy's founder) was said to have that going on. Nice ad hominem tho.

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Lmao ur dumb

Autism: the post

Well no because not everybody is drawing the same conclusions from their personal experiences. I remember that guy who came from a very shitty houselhold and had some weird idealized idea of family even tough he hated his own. And even tough i have a pretty good relationship with my family, i don't see it as some kind of sacred cow.

And that's where we are today. It's funny how easy the uniquely European capacity for empathy was twisted into self destructive pathological altruism.

Oh well, so much for the "master race". I for one welcome our new African, Arabic and Chinese overlords that not only lack any semblance of empathy for others, but for their own people as well.

The op's image is statistics that include not only "white" people. (60% of the population)

Not everything is about your obsession with race

Not an argument, friend. Besides, I don't have a dog in this fight, I'm content with watching it all burn. I've got my guns and my vidya, that's all I care about anymore.

How am I even supposed to not live with my parents.

I can't live off 5 euros per hour
I don't get how others are doing it

By being literal wage slaves and everything they receive is to pay for their fantastic freedom filled lifestyle.