Fascism's actual political goals and economic theory

Alexander Gonzalez
Alexander Gonzalez

Fascism is an authoritarian Nationalist political ideology that exalts nation (and often race) above the individual, and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition. It often claims to be concerned with notions of cultural decline or decadence, and seeks to achieve a national rebirth by suppressing the interests of the individual, and instead promoting cults of unity, energy and purity.
In economics, Fascism sees itself as a third way between laissez-faire Capitalism on the one hand and Communism or Socialism on the other. It acknowledges the roles of private property and the profit motive as legitimate incentives for productivity, but only insofar as they do not conflict with the interests of the state. Fascist governments tend to nationalize key industries, closely manage their currencies and make massive state investments. They also tend to introduce price controls, wage controls and other types of economic planning measures (such as state-regulated allocation of resources, especially in the financial and raw materials sectors).
The term "fascismo" was coined by the Italian Fascist dictator Benito Mussolini (1883 - 1945) and the self-described "philosopher of Fascism" Giovanni Gentile(1875 - 1944). It is derived from the Latin word "fasces", an ancient Roman symbol consisting of a bundle of rods tied around an axe, used to suggest "strength through unity". It was originally used to refer specifically to Mussolini's political movement that ruled Italy from 1922 to 1943, but has subsequently also been used to describe other regimes.
Fascism usually involves some degree of some or all of the following elements:
Nationalism (based on the cultural, racial and/or religious attributes of a region).Totalitarianism (state regulation of nearly every aspect of public and private sectors).
Statism (state intervention in personal, social or economic matters).
Patriotism (positive and supportive attitudes to a "fatherland").
Autocracy (political power in the hands of a single self-appointed ruler).
Militarism (maintaining of a strong military capability and being prepared to use it aggressively to defend or promote national interests).
Corporatism (encouragement of unelected bodies which exert control over the social and economic life of their respective areas).
Populism (direct appeals to the masses, usually by a charismatic leader).
Collectivism (stress on human interdependence rather than on the importance of separate individuals).
Fascism usually also expresses opposition to the following:
Liberalism/Minarchism (policies of minimal interference by government, both politically and economically)
Communism (specifically Marxism, but generally any communal social organization).
Democracy (majority rule and competitive elections with freedom of speech, freedom of the press and some degree of rule of law).
Individualism (stress on human independence and the importance of individual self-reliance and liberty)

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Camden Evans
Camden Evans

Fascism was communism confirmed!!!!!!

Matthew Gomez
Matthew Gomez

Fascism or religion is how you beat communism and social decline. I''m not sorry if that jeopardizes your ability to sit unemployed at home and watch porn all day and wait for happenings.

Jaxon Morales
Jaxon Morales

A lot wrong with that.

Not sure if pretending to be retarded or…

Dylan Sanders
Dylan Sanders

(checked)
Explain.

Jayden Gonzalez
Jayden Gonzalez

Was gonna say.

*It’s centralized by exalts nation over individual. Blatant contradiction.*

Fascism is Jewish

Jeremiah Stewart
Jeremiah Stewart

Wow editing my post after is a dirty trick. You can’t even win by playing straight and call me the loser.

Liam Hall
Liam Hall

What?

Logan Carter
Logan Carter

Is nobody actually interested in discussing fascist political philosophy? Looks like Holla Forums really has turned neoconservative.

Hudson Campbell
Hudson Campbell

Corporatism and Totalitarianism aside that sounds fine, assuming that the correct people are in charge.
I'd like to learn more, but whenever someone tries to explain methods of government they give the bare minimum.

Jace Miller
Jace Miller

Proper definitions of fascism in mainstream texts are elusive because fascism is explicitly a response to communist subversion in an open society. Fascism is a series of approaches and techniques that are deemed necessary to address the result of that communist takeover attempt. This is why in the midst of such, suddenly things seem much more reasonable to a public that would have been opposed to same just a few short years prior.

Regarding the strong leader, it is the succession process that is usually an issue in such environments. I think keeping the executive management team light and attached to the leader, rather than as a continuing apparatus, resolves this. if you are up to the job of ruling you can assemble a team.

Circling back, fascism is appealing now because our societies are failing to meet their potential and our expectations. We are looking at OURSELVES and asking what we can DO to reverse this, and finding the fascism option . There is nothing wrong with this, provided you are free to speak openly about the problems that exist and their root (((causes))).

Evan Anderson
Evan Anderson

Natsoc =/= Fascism

Fascism is gay and might as well just be civic nationalism.

Parker Hughes
Parker Hughes

Between natsoc and fascism, fascism is the more coherent ideology. Italy wasn't as militaristic as Germany, but their infrastructure and social policies were far better. If it weren't for the war (which was Italy's weak point), i'd say Italy could have outlasted Germany with their economic system.

Thomas Johnson
Thomas Johnson

Name a feat of fascist Italy on par with the Third Reich's Autobahn.

Christian Lopez
Christian Lopez

Mussolini's Fascism was corporate syndicalism, essentially creating a merged trade-guild/governmental-department for every possible domain (agriculture, construction, sanitation, environment, energy, etc). These bodies are similar to the alphabet soup agencies created by the new deal, except that they are comprised of the entire populace involved in a given domain. Within each domain free market competition is encouraged, but the evils of capitalism were held in check by mob-style "don't fuck around with us or we'll break your legs" type threats. In many ways the current US government has been fascist since FDR, except without various departments actually representing their constituents, and with a more encoded set of regulations which are much less vigorously enforced.

tldr: NS in better than fascism in every way

Adrian King
Adrian King

US government has been fascist since FDR.
There's a difference between social democracy and fascism.

Dominic Cooper
Dominic Cooper

autobahn
roads
sage for shitpost

Chase Scott
Chase Scott

/liberty/ pls go

James Thomas
James Thomas

the trains came on time faggot.

Brandon Carter
Brandon Carter

fascism
Ew. No.

Caleb Ortiz
Caleb Ortiz

FDR was a fascist
National Socialism is anything other than a German expression of Fascism
Fascism is an ideology and not the worldview of cosmic order
The absolute state of Holla Forums. This board is antifa tier with all these redditors.

Aiden Gutierrez
Aiden Gutierrez

Fucking halfchan tier. You're such a subhuman you are still thinking about ideology and not worldview. I miss ironmarch.

Zachary Hall
Zachary Hall

What communism seeks to destroy, facism preserves. Where savagery as well as degeneracy are promoted in communism, we promote instead a civilized and lawful order.
We seek not the destruction of the middle class and upper class, but the preservation and advancement of the so-called bourgeois, who in reality are the ones who drive economies (if they're not jewish or shabbos goys). We seek to not only advance the middle and upper classes, but to connect to the lower classes to the upper and lower classes. If they have gotten to that class, one way of the other, they shall remain there if they are deserving. By means lawful and just, but not deceitful means that plague the world. We shall destroy all notions of "class" in favor of state, family, and tradition. Communism seeks to turn the lower classes into the ruling class, and abolishes natural law and order (ie, common sense), ignoring the fact that once the top of the pyramid is abolished, others rise to take their place. Imagine turning grass into an apex predator, or turning lions into sheep. This is what communism aims to achieve, for it presumes the world is a void. A blank slate, if you will. But the world is not a blank slate, and it has never been since its conception, as inequality has lead to the birth of stars, galaxies, and our very own world. It is an essential fact of life that inequality exists, but to claim that it is to be destroyed would be leave it as a dark empty void. We must work with this inequality, along with the tides of nature, not against it. We shall not abolish inherent human nature, nor shall we deny it. We shall not punish those who are successful, nor will we reward those who fail.
This bit is a personal observation, but on the theory of "relativism", I find that relativism is relative in its relativeness. Ie, relativism is not applicable to everything. Just as in a mathematical linear equation.
y = mx + c,
Where m, the gradient ,is constant and so is c, the y-intercept, but y and x are variable depending on one another. Hence to claim everything is relative is to defy reality where physics indicates that constants exist. The speed of light, Hubble's constant, Plank's, and many more.

Thomas Price
Thomas Price

Anons, tear into my thoughts and expose its weaknesses. I am but a human who is flawed and seeks to learn. We are not Gods, but we shall strive to become them.

Evan Parker
Evan Parker

Everyone that is worth their thoughts in pennies left this board ages ago. All that's left of this place are schizo retards that couldn't cut with people criticising them on 4chan. This board is actually worse than 4chan Holla Forums because at least as far as I know, they don't have shitty and retarded word filters and a moderation policy of making their place the biggest hugbox they possibly can. Trash from r/The_Donald and other shitholes.

Its just as stupid to me that people ITT think that any kind of feud/critique between Communism and Fascism is necessary or even relevant at this stage. They're trying to apply the mindset of 70+ years ago to current day political thought.

Oliver Cox
Oliver Cox

Wasted dubs. This is a blackpill.
Remember: The will to power is there if one seizes it. We must never surrender until our last dying breath! We shall fight to the bitter end, did Germany not?

Colton Diaz
Colton Diaz

Pictures speak a thousand words.
Slavs are white btw.

Charles Hall
Charles Hall

Fascism is greatly misunderstood nowadays, even by many people on h8chan, because the lexicon has changed slightly since the time the Doctrine was written. The most important thing is the word "State". People today read state as "the government", but that's incorrect. When fascism uses the word "state" it means "The people". So when you read the speeches and tbe writing, you should be replacing "state" with "the people". Its exactly the same lexicon issue the second amendment of the constitution runs into with the young and ignorant. "…being necessary to the security of a free state", means the security of a free peoples, not a free government.

"Everything within the people. Nothing outside the people. Nothing against the people."

To put Fascism in lamens terms, it just means teamwork. That's how I get my foot in the door explaining it to boomers and kids alike. It just means teamwork. In the service and security of the people, you need to be strong and make protective choices. I highly recommend reading the doctrine of fascism, its not long at all. I was actually surprised how short it was the first time I read it. You can work through it in under an hour if you sit down and actually put thought into reading it. Seriously, when you get out of work.or class one day, just give it a read.

Another thing to consider is that fascism is more of a worldview and less of a specific defined form of governing. It says it right on the second page that fascism will look different for every country and nation. The underlying principle pinning all of the different possible brands together is that, you need to be strong so your family can be strong; and your family needs to be strong so that the state (your peoples) can be strong.

Henry Howard
Henry Howard

< the current US government has been fascist since FDR
thinks (((FDR)))'s (((democracy))), a moderate form of communism mixed with parts of capitalism, is Fascism

Aiden Price
Aiden Price

posting smiley's autism in image form
You have to go back

Ayden Smith
Ayden Smith

Where did niggers like you come from? This is what happens when book threads are deleted on sight.

Carson Wright
Carson Wright

National Socialism is anything other than a German expression of Fascism
That's a no no user. You're obviously a civnat shill if you want fascism molded to your own country's sensibilities instead of Gernany's

Eli Miller
Eli Miller

Giovanni Gentile
kek fascism truly is for bad goys

Isaac Murphy
Isaac Murphy

Thanks for the good post instead of thread derailers

Landon Brooks
Landon Brooks

Everyone that is worth their thoughts in pennies left this board ages ago

but where did they go?
ever since the election the quality has been terrible and the retarded mods and wordfilters don't help, but i haven't seen anywhere better

and don't even say going back to cuckchan that place is total cancer at this stage with entire threads consisting of 3 word replies

curbing the mafia, something democratic regimes seem incapable to do
fun fact the usa put them right back in power and allowed them to run all sort of monkey business in the states too

Dominic Scott
Dominic Scott

fascism is national bolshevism rebranded to lure in both nationalists and communists. subversive sophistry is all.

The term "fascismo" was coined by the Italian Fascist dictator Benito Mussolini 

en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Benito_Mussolini

Noah Flores
Noah Flores

This entire thread is just a bunch of autists arguing over wordisms.

Samuel Powell
Samuel Powell

Smiley made that shit
Source? Explains a lot. Like how syndicalism is somehow the second most free, when it births fascism and communism.
dude politics are baaaad
you just gotta be anarchist my dude
Greenpill brah still has Prometheus Rising instead of Emerald Tablets, Oera Linda Books or Gödel, Escher, Bach
promoting eris bullshit
Hasn't he killed himself?

Ethan Mitchell
Ethan Mitchell

Always thought that meme was comprised of the wrong type of autism.

Robert Nguyen
Robert Nguyen

Yea, fuck that. I'll stick with my Constitution. I'm not trading with authoritarian ideology for another.

Chase Thompson
Chase Thompson

Which assault did he lead in WW2?

Oliver Torres
Oliver Torres

Does it matter? Our problem isn't the wrong economic theory, our problem is the FUCKING KIKES. Kill the kikes, kill the nonwhites, and it won't fucking matter what economic theory we use. Arguing about which special snowflake socioeconomic theory will work is what leftists do when they aren't sucking copious amounts of dicks.

Caleb Parker
Caleb Parker

Holy dubs checked!

Know what mate? I know nothing about politics but I came along with the first exodus because I'm a white man living in Africa and I believe that the Nationalist Party, despite having traitors in our midst, ran SA during the wars against communism better than the shithole I know now. SO IDK about what real fascism is. Fascism wouldn't work in today's times unless it were a homogenous society like Germany. I'm not pointing fingers or asking questions, i'm just simply saying that you shouldn't bitch when you could be contributing and teaching us some a thing or two. This place is a party because it's full of people who still think critically and we don't see that on the international TV stations. Sadly, it's also full of jews, but we know who they are because we do see that on the international TV.