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serb here
wtf i hate serbia now

You shouldn't hate Serbia, you have Tucovic to be proud of. You can hate the serb bourg al you like though. (This is from Kosovo Albanian)

why am I not surprised

You do realize that it's possible for an actual unjust political situation to be coopted by NATO / global capital? Apartheid in South Africa was coopted similarly (after it was abolished the ANC dropped all talk of nationalization, socialist policies etc and became neoliberal shits they are today).

i was kidding
it's nice to see that albanians recognized based dimitrije tucović as well
too bad a lot of serbs haven't :(

fuck what is this autistic stuff
yeah they do a great job going around town making shit tier graffiti

Yeah, read that they moved the statue…

they recognize him because he was against the """"""genocide""""""" the serbian army did when retaking Kosovo from the turkroaches

i swear, if leaders during balkan war listened to him, a lot of future conflicts would be prevented because we wouldn't kill each other ever since balkan wars
(before that our conflicts were purely based on whose side we were on)

Holla Forums pls go ::DDDD

We'd be living in balkan communist federation by now :3

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balkan_Federation
That was a very interesting idea that never happened :D

sure thing

Boro: wikiwand.com/sh/Boro_Vukmirović

Ramiz: wikiwand.com/en/Ramiz_Sadiku

are you butthurt serb or something?
i said that if we didn't start a conflict there that albanians wouldn't have a reason to fight us in WW2
you look at the big picture, also i think kosovo should have been split across ethnic lines long time ago
right now we got nothing out of it and brussels agreement in 2013 is a meme where our politicans pretend they didn't recgonize it kek

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Yeah i live near it, its like the Zizek joke about the missing lenin in Pravda, who do they think they are fooling?

"after Krushchev’s ‘secret’ denunciation of Stalin at the 20th Congress of the Communist Party, Stalin’s statues were replaced en masse by Lenin’s: Lenin was literally a stand-in for Stalin. This was made equally clear by a change made in 1962 to the masthead of Pravda. Until then, at the top left-hand corner of the front page, there had been a drawing of two profiles, Lenin’s and Stalin’s, side by side. Shortly after the 22nd Congress publicly rejected Stalin, his profile wasn’t merely removed but replaced with a second profile of Lenin: now there were two identical Lenins printed side by side. In a way, this weird repetition made Stalin more present in his absence than ever."

you do realize that's impossible
sure majority is north/south now
but before you had serbs all over kosovo and metohija
now you just have enclaves in the south
you are joking right?
the first balkan war was to kick out the OTTOMANS that still had garrisons around the area
and another thing, explain to me why they didn't attack us during ww1 then?
the only albanians attacking were the on and off raiding parties that trailed the serbian army across albania
and they didn't even dare attack them head on

What are you talking about. Kacaks where the Albanian guerrillas that were resisting the 1912 serb colonization.

I dont think dividing based on ethnicity is the solution unless there is 80:20 ratio. After 3 attempted colonization attempts in once century the Serb monarchists and expansionists (who had their eye on the adriatic coast of Albania as a great potential economic boost) the Albanian population in Kosovo was and still is too high. Rankovic failed, Milosevic failed. Albanians of Ks have right to self-determination. That means learning in their own language and they should learn serbian as second language.

Kosovo Serbs right now are taught Russian as a second language in Kosovo. No Serbs know albanian (this has historically been the case).

wikiwand.com/en/Yugoslav_colonisation_of_Kosovo

This is a geographic distribution of Albanian dialects: dialects.albanianlanguage.net/

Albanians were pretty backward and agrarian, and didn't have any expansionist aspirations (contrary to Cetnik propaganda).

Please note how similar the contemporary distribution is to the 1912 proposed borders of Albania : wikiwand.com/en/Partition_of_Albania

I'll note that Albania was powerless and the borders were negotiated by England and Russia. These synthetic borders created the conditions for a century of war, and will continue to until there is talk about a right to self determination for albanians and serbs.

Also, it's inevitable and favourable that republika srbska unifies with serbia. But if the newly drawn borders are informed by leftist principles of self determination then i think we can move past the 20th century and begin work on balkan fed

you mean liberation of a land that used to be ours before the Ottomans took it?
but i just checked out the link you sent me bellow and it's funny how most of the sources are either Albanians or Western Europeans with bullshit degrees like 🍀🍀🍀gender studies🍀🍀🍀
heck I've even seen a Rothschild float about (DA JOOOS RITE)

well that's how it is mostly in normal countries, you learn the native language, while the natives shouldn't even bother with your own

And kosovo serbs not knowing albanian is shit, most can speak it in some form

"land that used to be ours before the Ottomans took it"
Riight. Should Ottomans by your logic get to reclaim Belgrade because it was theirs before the Serbs took it back?

Serbs arrived in the Balkans in 7th century and spread "conquering." If this is permissible, why is not permissible that Albanians "conquered" Kosovo? Thats not true but I digress.

Albanians were even higher up north in the 19th century, should we start reclaiming our territories all the way up to Nis?

When does it stop?

Right, 90% ethnicity albanian Kosovo which had Autonomy in Yugoslavia, and they have to speak serbian…

wikiwand.com/en/The_Expulsion_of_Albanians_1877–1878

Wow, yeah it really is so strange that Albanians write history about Albanians, and also weird that Westerm European Historians exist.

Wikipedia sources on Albanians should exclusively be Seselj right?

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^That's someone who agrees with you

sure thing tonibler

that means that's extremely biased information
like the shit about DEM EBIL SERBS genociding siptars on kosovo
HELP ME NATO

Ok troll. 10,000 albanian civillians died in 1999. Kosovo is super small so everyone knows somebody affected.
20,000 women were raped.

That means in serbia right now there exist maybe 10,000 - 12,000 men that served in JNA or paramilitary units and killed or either raped 1-3 women during their campaign. It's very concrete what I'm trying to convey. Could be your dad, uncle, teacher etc.

There have been almost no convictions for any crimes here.

Stop trying to appropriate american racism btw.

didn't you fucks push for a 100.000 missing albanians eaten by the evil serbs?
but honestly it's typical coming from an albanian
i mean you take pride in your Yellow House
you worship OVK terrorists
you attacked serbian churches and monasteries

My neighbor across the street was an albanian
and he was killed by your LIBERATION army for speaking serbian

wew lad
can you agree that war crimes are bad? i mean im serbian but i don't agree with this petty squabbling over who hurt who more
what matters right now is to avoid a proxy war conflict if our politicans go for russia while albania and kosovo remain pro-american
that can spark another conflict

Your brain has decomposed from all the Cetnik Propaganda you've been eating

Your own State Security Servic Radomir Markovic admitted that many operations that were supposedly "UCK" were carried out by Milosevic's goons.

Markovic admitted that the "Panda bar" massacre in which 6 innocent teenage serbs were killed by "Albanians" was actually done by "Legija" the notorious henchman of Milosevic.

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All you nationalist idiots just took the fucking bait.

I agree.

can anyone explain why serbs are so hateful? what did the surrounding nations do to warrant such violence and contempt from even average serbs?

idk fam
we were raised to think this way i guess
other balkan nations are not better tho

the same Radomir Markovic who was offered a new life for speaking against Milosevic on the trial
there is no way he lied his ass off for anything more
but sure you were good bois, it was all milosevic false flagging, making you look bad


a joke, there's no chance the retards we have up right now would do anything like that
pussylips is doing a good job offering his ass for both sides

Coming from albanian, serbs are just as hateful as everyone else. Balkan is the same, europe is the same, america is the same. Just go on pol and see what americans say about the oppressed. Americans took the "right side" in the ksoovo serbia conflict of 1999, but they did so in a pathological way. And they moralize in a pathological narcissistic way about it. If you do the right

Theres a chris rock joke about this phenomenon:

""You know the worst thing about AMERICANS? AMERICANS always want credit for some shit they supposed to do. An AMERICAN will brag about some shit a normal man just does. An AMERICAN will say some shit like,I take care of my kids." You're supposed to, you dumb motherfucker! ( i replaced the N-word with AMERICAN)

i only hate zergs from kosovo
since i am from kosovo

Do you actually live in Kosovo? Are you a settler or are you an actual Kosovo Serb?

Religion does that to you.

What's different between the ethnic/religious tensions in Yugoslavia to the ones in say Lebanon? Same brew there, just different faces and cults.

I think you're missing the point. Let's say you're right and it was not a false flag. How do you explain warcrimes comitted by Serbian paramilitary forces then? Taking revenge on random civilians?
This is why arguing about this is pointless
Same argumentation was used in Bosnian war for many attrocities commited by all 3 sides. They went like "lol they did it to us lets kll some random people". I swear people on this peninsula are fucking stupid.

actual kosovo serb
can trace my family to a village (will leave unnamed) near the albanian border to about the 18th century (no idea where they were before)
they took islam and that's when the branch i'm from left the village

conflicts are much deeper here, religion is not the only factor
it's nationalism and sectarianism, too
let's not forget that people of same ethnicity in yugoslavia were killing each other just because some of them were chetniks while others were pratisans in ww2

btw blood debt is still a thing in balkans, in places like montenegro and albania and that is like another form of conflict that exist between clans/tribes

The premise of Yugoslavia was monarchist (when it was incepted) and pan SLAVIC. The Albanians of Kosovo who were not slavic, and were subject to colonization policy were to create a contradiction that unfortunately had to erupt sometime.

The Bosnians are slavs but muslims.

The Croatians are slavs and close enough to serbs but catholics (with pretty fascist collaboration in ww2)

Serbs are orthodox.

The religions are just complementary to sides taken in wars throughout the centuries. So its confusing. Although i'll say I dont think its as confusing as Lebanon (18 sects?)

So your family hasnt lived in Kosovo since the 1700's and your calling yourself a Kosovo Serb?

Get over yourself. My family hails from Nis territories that were expelled in 1800s but I dont go around moping or identiying as a Nis albanian.

yugoslavia was a mistake
if only they didn't push for YUGOSLAV and just left it with Serb/Croat/Sloven things would have been much better

what?
no i just told you where my roots are
most of my family escaped kosovo from 1999-2001
while some remain in the enclaves

i'm not saying serbs are uniquely hateful, especially compared to americans, but there just seems to be a certain intensity/aggressiveness from the serbs in comparison to other groups in the region. from what i've seen, serbs don't regard themselves regular balkanites or yugoslavs, but as orthodox slavs; basically would-be russians. maybe it's a sort of elitism/superiority complex on their part

Socialist Yugoslavia was actually very progressive in Kosovo in the years 1968-1980. Schooling, healthcare, housing,

After 81 it went to shit. All the nations started becoming nationalistic and sensing the collapse. Milosevic surfaced. But the years 69-80 were good.

Oh right, sorry. What did you family do to counter the military apartheid of kosovo that was enacted in 1989 by milosevic? Did your parents protest when all albanians were stripped of jobs (doctors, deputies in parliament, engineers etc) to be replaced by Belgrade serbs being paid 200% what they would be paid in BG.

Did your family protest or idly sit back and watch?

Did your parents protest the 10pm curfew that ALbanians had to abide by (which serbs didn't)

you got me here
no they didn't protest anything
but on the curfew part the militia(police) enforced it upon serbs as well

milosevic was a retard, i agree on that, he just rode the nationalism train for popularity just like any other excommie back then and now

Anyway, Im glad we agree on Milosevic. laku noc, I hope yor family isn't suffering. The current Kosovo regime is a criminal one. Peace.

same goes for the current serbian one
peace