Who is /going to lose job/ here?

Besides the obvious tracking of shite, this system would be pretty fucking cool to have for a socialist society, albeit a bit gimmicky.

We should really be using this to make people aware of the failings of capitalism. Hell, it was what pushed me from a centre-left guy to pretty much a socialist.

Capitalism has absolutely zero answers for how society will function after automation removes most jobs and leaves the means of production in the hands of a select few.

Basic income is unsustainable as it'd essentially have to rely on the government to go begging to capitalists, who would then have to voluntarily pay a high tax just so they can have a consumer base.

A lot of prominent companies are looking at pushing automation through over the next decade (eg. Uber, Wal-Mart, McDonald's) and I've already seen a lot of the top comments on normiebook articles moaning about how this will decimate jobs and saying how it must be stopped (i.e acting like Luddites).

If we can link this with the current opposition to globalism we might just be able to kill free-market dogma once and for all.

Who /hopefully no real job for life/ here

Hooray for Academia.

obligatory video:
youtube.com/watch?v=sCoVZEmX1IY

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Niggas are too dumb for that to work on its own.

I'll automate that too buster.

Uneducated people used to theft as a means of getting what they want might indeed cause a lot of problems for this. There will probably be a lot of guards.

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I'm /don't have a job but these inventions will make it EVEN HARDER TO GET ONE/.

kek

I'm sure they'll have safeguards for your average shoplifter, I'd be more worried about the inevitable mobile payment fraud if I was them

walmart and all the other stores already track and monetize your purchase history. they're even rolling out shelfcams, tracking your phone ID via wifi, and all that kind of shit. so actually, the amazon store is a bit worse, but not a lot worse than most big chains already are.

honestly it looks like propaganda from some kind of socialist utopia. JUST WALK IN AND GRAB THE SHIT YOU NEED, AND THEN WALK OUT? This really is late stage capitalism when the capitalists are building the socialist infrastructure for us.

This.

Let the proles eat their hay and pay their prole dollars.

Who needs a job when I can just shoplift everything now

Thanks corporate overlords

lel

So, communism?

Does this not feel incredibly distopian to anyone else?

Next level alienation

kek

collapse soon fellow lefty

This feels like the start of the cyberpunk dystopia

I'm scared

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change amazon/go to anarchy/go and you have a 10/10 meme

test

People would be able to do this under communism. Except without an evil multinational corporation watching/predicting their every move.

Can I formally invite /liberty/ to our thread guys?

What are you talking about? It's not profit from actual Communism. It is simply automation of the checkout process.

go ahead

think about the following, we have the workers producing these commodities and then they go to the store and exchange them without the necessity of tangible money, sure there is still an electronic currency that can be accumulated and whatever, but what if they are getting them via credit? then the system becomes somewhat similar to the labour voucher system, you cannot accumulate credit, as you simply exchange the credit line given to you and then every month make the payment

what if this becomes a global phenomenon and this changes the whole relationships with commodities in a way that people simply exchange values, what if instead of having an amazon account somewhere in the future people just get an account that counts how much value they produced, yet behind the curtain porky is still keeping a part of the surplus value produced and the whole exploting system is kept hidden from workers?

I like how the comments are disabled.

The first thing I did was see how people reacted. Oh well.

They can't stop me having a communist party

>>>/liberty/40151
Joint board thread for Discussion and Friendship.

can someone shop Conquest of Bread into his hand in place of the cellphone? THAT'd be amazing.

Uh, I'm sure it will collapse any day now, as soon as someone invents something! Which has never happened!

actually might get a job at the deli in my local supermarket. Talked to the manager, nice old black man, other workers are typical proletariats. Before I was a cook at a small italian restaurant owned by the poster-child for petty bourgeoisie. I liked my coworkers, they were prole af, but the pay was shit and the bootlicking manager would clock me out earlier.

Sorry for going off topic but the point stands, do supermarkets have a future? Will this ruin the workers of supermarkets?

Well they probably won't have deli bots for a minute so you should be alright.

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It's irrelevant if the people who end up having more money is the upper class you illiterate fuck.

So, like, around 100 millionaires?

The Friendship part is more important than the Discussion part.

Thisthisthis.

Suck my cock, dude!

yes, all workers in supermarkets are fired in the next decade or two. I was predicting something like this, but it is still shocking to see them announce it so soon. They'll automate every single thing. Shelf stocking, truck driving, checkout, surveillance, and so on. And they'll skim a ton of extra profit off the top by selling full dossiers of shopping customers to any advertisers or government agencies willing to pay.

Things they can get from you with this system:
The list fucking goes on.

It's not, though.

Shareholders aren't all millionaires
And everyone spends money. It has no other use.

this is your mind on ideology

more reasons it's stupid

spending money is good retardt

Agreed.

You're like a little baby, watch this:
lainchan.org/tech/res/32116.html
bienvenidoainternet.org/tech/read/1480997030/

I have one question. Are these robots being made out of scarce materials, or heavy duty stuff?

youtube.com/watch?v=YJg02ivYzSs

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That classcuck on the lainchan thread is both hilarious and sad.

They have figured out that it is cheaper to eat the cost of theft as compared to employing people to do it for them.

The thread got locked and the admin stepped in.
When did Lainchan become so fucking shitty?

what the fuck lmao

Haven't been there lately, but Lainchan has always been strict about post quality. You have to argue points semi-nicely.

I wonder how easy it would be to hack this.

No wonder it's so fucking dead.
It's hard not to call someone defending corporations on a cyberpunk imageboard of all things a retard.

I bet you are a classcuck

Fucking this.

This is probably the biggest happening (fapping over geopolitics is dumb) of the year and it deserves a bump

tru dat

This is how capitalism enters its death throes. By liquidating its consumer base.

The problem is already evident as both consumption and job creation are stagnating. Without the purchasing power of the working class there is no market for all these automated goods and services.
And as one infamous TED talk showed, the rich cannot consume enough to make up the difference.

There is a limit to how much an individual can or wants to consume. Imagine a situation in which a handful of people own every factory and every store. How are they generating more income? By trading all those goods amongst themselves?
Even if they buy thousands of cars, thousands of houses and spend all their days eating and watching netflix, that will not somehow improve the lives of the millions of unemployed that now operate outside that system.

it will be just like my vidya games

hell yes

Does anyone else kind of want this to be a thing before the revolution?

not like it's not gonna be lol

Don't forget everyone with internet access and a 3D printer being able to print guns and drones themselves.
And of course access to genetic engineering and by extensions bioweapons is next.

Global capitalism has no future.

It's actually pretty cool but only if it keeps track of price alone not monitoring the items being purchased itself and if you can return it without needing a receipt that lists the items.

absolutely, cyberpunk is my favorite dystopia

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:^)

I know Pepe isn't cool or anything anymore, but that one is so mischievous, holy shit

We're already a halfway.

It stopped being annoying, it's become hilarious

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Fucking auto-aim bots

that's why the DDR had it good
if there's a lack of people in a certain branch, college becomes "free" for you
my mother for example was forced into medicine that way

Mark of the beast when?

i remember seeing weird proto-alex jones conspiracy theorist docs back in the day try to claim your SSN is the mark of the beast

Geez I wish I was forced into med school especially during this shortage where a GP can earn £70k.

FULLY

It might be

I won't be losing my job, but I'll certainly be more disposable with more hungry desperate unemployed waiting in line for my job.

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Well thank fuck for that!

As someone who works at a gas station, theft is not even remotely a problem. We throw out so much food everyday, you'd have to have a dozen people cramming their trenchcoats full of beer and butterfingers everyday just to match the amount lost to spoilage.

This makes me less guilty about all the shoplifting I've done at gas stations.

I don't like this

dont feel guilty, feel happy about it. Nice work, comrade

fortune.com/2015/06/19/walmart-amazon-grocery/
Walmart is getting in on this, god damn it.

What's the best way to do it?

In my country (Chile) gas station workers seriously don't give a shit about it.
Just enter putting on a mean attitude, take something and leave.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

turns out the free market is actually free

wtf i love friedman now

here's your (you).

well that sucks because anyone who has it isn't getting into heaven

MORE LIKE 19-80-STORE AM I RIGHT GUYS

george plz

no, not everyone is a kleptomaniac. there's no reason to steal shit that you don't need.

I haven't seen many people here complaining about the loss of jobs to self-serving gas stations. Why is this so different?

Hahaha you lefties got your just desserts

Because full service gas stations went out decades ago. The same thing with drive in theaters in case you have been wondering about that too.

Self-checkout isn't automation. Actually, it adds labor to the checkout process, because it also requires you to weigh all the items in the bagging area and so on. Self-checkout is an example of just how impatient the porkies are to start getting rid of workers, but it isn't even in the same league as Amazon's convenience store. Amazon is clearly doing real automation here.

Ironically amazon are better revolutionaries than anyone here. It's this kind of technology which will ultimately kill capitalism and bring about FALC, regardless of whether the proles have a revolution or not.

It's not going to be confined to just Seattle ya knoew

Couldn't you just walk in, grab something and walk out without a phone?

Not gonna lie I'm kinda excited

Well if you walk past that store entrance with no phone or without the app installed the alarms will go off and a store greeter will probably come to explain it to you.

I'm wondering how they track the products tho. I guess they could just RFID every item, some people say they already do.

Anyone read: A Scanner Darkly?

Reminds me very much of this. In the story the malls of the future were built so you had to swipe your credit card to get in.

'off like a rubber ball—unless you had a credit card on you and passed in through the electronic hoop. Owning no credit card for any of the malls, he could depend only on verbal report as to what the shops were like inside. A whole bunch, evidently, selling good products to the straights, especially to the straight wives. He watched the uniformed armed guards at the mall gate checking out each person. Seeing that the man or woman matched his or her credit card and that it hadn’t been ripped off, sold, bought, used fraudulently. Lots of people moved on in through the gate, but he figured many were no doubt window-shopping. Not all that many people can have the bread or the urge to buy this time of day, he reflected. It’s early, just past two. At night; that was when. The shops all lit up. He could—all the brothers and sisters could—see the lights from without, like showers of sparks, like a fun park for grownup kids.

Stores this side of the mall, requiring no credit card, with no armed guards, didn’t amount to much. Utility stores: a shoe and a TV shop, a bakery, small-appliance repair, a laundromat. He watched a girl who wore a short plastic jacket and stretch pants wander along from store to store; she had nice hair, but he couldn’t see her face, see if she was foxy. Not a bad figure, he thought. The girl stopped for a time at a window where leather goods were displayed. She was checking out a purse with tassels; he could see her peering, worrying, scheming on the purse. Bet she goes on in and requests to see it, he thought.'

Yes, and this is the true meaning of accelerationism. Not just making things "worse," but actually accelerating the development of the base.

They are being very vague on this issue. They are saying that machine vision and machine learning play a part in this system. If so, they could possibly do away with the costs of RFID altogether, and just use cameras to determine who picked what off the shelf. RFID is a very real possibility for shopping, but it is a bit more expensive than barcodes, and it comes with its own problems.

Would this work with alcohol

Lotta paranoia itt

Why not just scan you phone, turn it off, and proceed with your shoplifting?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Booster_bag