Why do far leftists make such a big deal about extraction of natural resources and what is their solution to it?
You can't expect people to go on with without cars and electricity and smart phones and plastics after the revolution, can you? I thought increasing the standard of living is your endgame.
Explain.
because if the natural world is destroyed, we won't be alive to use cars, electricity, smart phones and plastics. is this a serious question?
Maybe others mean it differently, but I think resources should be used to their fullest extent, as long as it benefits humans and doesn't have any long-term side effects. The issue is that resources are being extracted from other people's lands, and not to the benefit of the people of that land. The elite of a country might make use of a natural resource, but by selling it to a foreign power and enriching themselves while their people are impoverished and might not even have access to it themselves.
smart phones under capitalism
smart phones under socialism
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kek.
Because we do it insufficiency, capitalism here waste too much to produce a single product, and after the compunction of the product there will be even more waste.
That is a bad system fam, we need to make the most that we can possibly can of the least that we can afford and have
Energy will go full nuclear and green
And products will be far better quality "unlike today planned obsolescence" and with the minimum production waste.
But never fool yourself, if you want to save the plant you will need to engineer it to fullest and try to control nature itself.
Maybe if you're a tend whore. I am a poorfag and I still use my smartphone from 2011. Planned obsolescence is a meme.
my cheap android phone:
That's planned obsolescence. Meanwhile I can run modern Linux distros on laptops that are over ten years old, no problem.
Don't need an SD cars and my battery is removable.
Planned obsolescence is just people seeing a jump from 9 megapixel camera to an 11 megapixel camera and convincing themselves they need it.
No. It's a design and engineering trend, and it goes beyond consumer tech gadgets.
Wrong. That's marketing.
It's a lot more involved than that. Using sub-optimal solder alloys to induce premature malfunction, repair prevention, and lack of forward compatibility are all real examples of planned obsolescence that have nothing to do with marketing.
complete moron
How do you tell that OP?
Certain resources are very limited in quantity. Certain methods of extraction are very damaging to the environment. We should aim to preserve the environment long enough for us to develop the technology to either repair the damage or move to a new planet. Running out of certain resources would hinder that goal.
Use resources wisely.
Scientific research is a good use, as is feeding people and keeping transport and communication links up.
Designing consumer products to break after 2 years so that people are forced to buy replacements is simply wasteful. Expending scarce resources on fighting each other and killing innocent people is even more wasteful and abhorrent.
It is. If you think our current patterns of resource acquisition and usage are optimal for that goal, then you're an idiot.
One time a Holla Forumsetarian who works installing HVAC systems made an insightful and informative post about why you're full of shit, I wish I had screencapped it
worked in a factory that made refrigerators the tech to make fridges that could last for 100 years has been around since like the 40's. We just dont use it
It's a delusion. Socialist states were horrific to their environments (see: the entirety of Aral Sea) and relied on resource extraction for the economy.
No political movement gives a shit about the environment other than Greenies - and nobody takes greenies seriously.
Human civilization on Earth will either collapse, or convert the Earth into a ecumenopolis centuries from now. There will be no middle ground. Humans are not creatures of compromise. We will either destroy the environment around us or we will be destroyed by it.
You seem to be under the impression that we approve of the various "socialist" states throughout history.
Only when it's convenient for you, you do.
Regardless I do not expect you to act any differently to any other human system of governance throughout history in regards to the environment: thus, Earth is doomed.
Environmentalism has always been a part of socialism.
Cool. Now, do you have anything to contribute besides prophesies of doom?
Cry about it all you want, but it won't change the fact that your revolution will be fighting over the scraps.
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