President Trump's H-1B Visa Crackdown Causes 56,000 IT layoffs

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India on suicide watch.


When hell broke loose


Slamming the brakes on hiring


With revenue growth under stress, companies did not want to hold a bench—an employee pool on a company’s payroll, awaiting projects. “The focus shifted to increase in hiring of specialised talent or up-skilling existing (talent),” Incedo’s Paul said.

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Side effects of “America First

It's funny. A few decades ago the pro-union democrats would had been cheering on trump for this.

The trepidation is unlikely to end anytime soon.

By next year, automation will put nearly 70% of the roles in the Indian IT workforce at risk, according to analysts.

Good. Indian programmers' code is to normal white people's what ebonics is to English language.
Basically the companies burn money by first pretending to cut it on street-shitting programmers, then the code is rewritten by whites because it's unworkable otherwise.

Which makes no sense to me. Indian workers are just that, workers. They're bred that way through the caste system to follow very simple flowchart logic. How in the fuck did thousands of years of breeding like that still make them worse than the white man at something like programming.

COMFY AS FUCK
#MAGA

The funny thing is the fuckers can't even do simple ladder logic. You should see how fucked up some of the PLC's at my plant were from these assclowns. We damn near had some safety incidents because Pajeet ignored safety protocols on some conveyor systems.

Well why should we give a fuck? They act like we should care about some third world when America needs jobs.

You aren't smug that 56,000 job-stealing streetshitters have lost the jobs they stole? Because I'm smug.

The pajeets can do a half-decent job as long as the program requirements never change.

The problem is that the software requirements are always changing and it's completely impossible for them to adapt for some reason.

Hence you have the H1-B merry-go-round. Manager fires all the white people to hire indians to cut costs. Manager gets promoted as the pajeets do okay at first. The pajeets start fucking up tremendously as customers demand new things. New manager fires all the pajeets and hires people who know what they are doing, gets promoted. New manager comes on the scene, wants to cut costs…

If you haven't smug 24/7 then 2018 is going to do it. Between the wall & gibs reform there's going to be plenty to be happy about.

TOP KEK
That's the company you hire from if you want to save some money and don't care that your ROI is pure shit. Absolute incompetent shit company with absolute incompetent shit employees. Good riddance. They can take their pajeets and put them to work in their own nation for their own nation's shit.


You're correlating worker caste shit with a highly intellectual field.

that's odd. Why is that? Are they low IQ or is it some cultural thing where they're not supposed to admit mistakes or something?

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Poor user.

The US government should award H1B visas on the basis of Indian caste. Brahmins get preference, untouchables are last in line. That would be rich.

Lol, 2030 eh? They better get cracking. Indian cities don't even have sewer systems. If you can afford it, a truck comes and picks up your sewerage.

They US should not award any indians H1bs. Which are the castes taking up all the tech jobs and getging ceo opisitions at the same companies that hire the poos only?

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Source?

WINNING

NOW BUILD THE WALL so i can. have MUH SUMMER TIME SIDE HUSTLE BACK RIDING LAWNMOWERS DRUNK GETTING TAX FREE WORK GETTING SUN SHINE ON MY FACE

Poooooooojeeeeet shits in the streeeeeeeet

Yes , all the way around. Top.
Lawnmowers and drunkenness to ensue

There is a lot, and I do mean A LOT, of academic fraud in both India and China. Your Indian IT guy may have little more education than an American high school programmer.

I can program snakes on a ti-82 all day every day motherfucker

This.
By that time chain migration anchor babies will have them all living here for freeeeeeeeeeeeee

You gotta fight, for your right, to poooo where you like

Thanks for the good news OP. Nice way to begin the new year!

ha!

The Absolute State

Its why West Virginia finally went Red the last couple of election cycles. +2 senators for the R's

But JIDF shills assured me Drumpft would import more poo-in-loos.

Thats not India 2030, that's America 2030.

Trump's administration better work on getting more American IT workers,and put a fucking stop to soyboy betacucks with worthless gender studies degrees.

60k job openings in IT departments in the US.

I don't think this is quite that cut and dried. The article is really just discussing India-owned companies, with locations here in the US, who are bringing in their own street-shitters here on our dime.

Eventually this will probably drive these companies out of business if they don't adapt to the change successfully. As for Americans? Well, you can probably expect a decrease in poo unsolicited calls is about the only thing an average Joe will benefit from.

Companies like Oracle that rely very heavily on these back-worlders to keep their costs to an absolute minimum will probably suffer (as well they should). IMO at this scale of things, not much will really change. Until the H1-B program is simply cut off period – or at least limited to the truly superlative individuals – there will be little improvements for the average tech guy in America.

I'd be interested to see what would happen of Trump signed an EO giving companies a tax rate proportional to the amount of Americans v. foreigners they employ. More Americans = lower tax rate, more foreigners = higher tax rate.

Sadly, I suspect some firms would still pay the higher tax because it'd be ultimately cheaper in the end; the cunts.

Although nuking the H1-B visa program entire would be a great start. I could sustain myself off of the tears up here.

t. Seattle user

Ideal outcome: India invades Pakistan due to the Kashmir conflict, especially after what happened the other day, takes it over and later expands through out the middle-east, as revenge for the "Hindu Kush". The Iranian Crescent and the Israeli-Saudi coalition blow each other out and then the whole of middle east eventually becomes known as "Greater East India".

I don't know much about Modi except that he's a nationalist. With a growing population that's supposedly going to be the largest in the world, I wouldn't be surprised if this happens. I hope they take over Pakistan. Do you know why this is important? If they reclaim the Hindu Kush mountain range, for the first time in around over a thousand years they'll be able for the first time to excavate and try to find out how many people are really buried there. That would also mean irrefutable proof that Religion of Cuck™ has killed even more people than communism, which I don't doubt especially also if you take in the who knows how many of people have died from their jihads into africa.

rt.com/newsline/414361-russia-india-missile-deal/

foxnews.com/world/2017/12/25/pakistan-army-says-indian-fire-kills-3-soldiers-in-kashmir.html - this one doesn't mention the fact that Pakis opened fire a day before they did. They've been going at it for quite awhile though over this region. But India might just end up getting sick and tired of it one day and decide to end them once and for all. Hopefully sooner than later

Where exactly did you think the
meme came from?

It would be pretty sweet heh. The challenge facing Trump is that talented American tech guys command six figures. Not sure how that will work replacing all these poos when the majority of IT work is simply low-bar tier perfectly suited to them. In some ways it's identical to the beaners plucking avocados just at a bit higher level. The tech industry is far too bloated today with females and poseurs who can't into creative tech work. At least trimming off the non-Americans would help, but only marginally.

I certainly can't think of any magic bullet to solve this dilemma personally.


The Kashmir will probably be the reason for the first hot nuclear war.

I remember times when that wouldve been. But we all know what the Democrat party is about now, and working class whites are not it.

The butthurt inferiority complex that Indians have is as thick as molasses in this video.

It could be an interesting forcing function, user. More IT jobs = more people getting STEM degrees = more people seeking entry level shit to get their foot in the door, etc.

I think we'd also need to see companies shift to a pure meritocracy to weed out the diversity hires and what not, but since most of the major ones are based in cancer-meccas like SF and Seattle, it'll probably never happen.

One white man is worth at least 10 poos, I don't see the problem.

Thats ironically means less workload for everyone else

The side effects include "putting America first". It does what it says on the label, which would be baffling to those who are fond of masking the true outcome of their actions.

Poos can offer you knowledge and repeat routines. In that sense yes some "average" 10 poos may "replace" a normal person.
Otherwise its rather one normal person compensates for 10 poos slowly destroying your product, slowing down and convulting any form of drafts/designs, microdickblocking any form of innovative proposals they cant deal with while insisting on "innovative indian shortcuts" ruining the life of everyone who has to deal with them later, making conferences less productive and less creative because no one wants to trigger poos autistic confusion sessions and wearing down the nerves of your entire team.

Yea, you may be right. On both points. But either issue will literally take years to sort out given the current status quo, even if we were now completely on the perfectly right road as of this moment. We are not there ofc.


The point is that men like us really have no interest in doing boring low-skill tech work. So, it really doesn't matter if we're worth 20 poos. Unless business' are willing to pay the 20 low-wage salaries to step in and do that load of work, then no deal. And tbqh that's just not going to happen. A big part of what these business' are after with these low-tier hires is tax and other gibs from federal state and local governments. Quite apart from the fashionable social sport of inclusive diversity virtue-signaling.

The ideal version in my head is that top shelf IT engineers invent ways to totally automate jobs done by poos, and since it's more cost-effective than hiring poos, our ruthless corporate overlords will switch to it without a second thought.

Actually, the idea of automation positively obliterating the third world excites me. Sexually.

Just got back from a holiday and there was an indian family in our tour group. They spoke in a parody of the english language it was almost like they were caricatures. One said to his kid about to jump into the river in a way that sounded like he was telling him off "next time you will turn yourself into a cannon ball when you do it, okay?"
I giggled for days. Still giggling thinking about it. Every time I interact with them they're always so uncanny and like jokes of humans. It's the most bizarre thing.


While one white can do the same job in the same time as 10 poos, 10 poos in a team will require more than one white to fix all their shit.

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Kek. And it's inevitable, actually. Simple economics should eventually guarantee it.

The one thing that concerns me about automation taking everyone's jobs is that it's not like they're going to stop breeding; so we'll have a whole lot of unemployed, uneducated people. I don't know about you user, but somehow I don't see them going to school and finding ways to integrate.

My secret wish is that we invent an AI, it slips its collar, enslaves the planet, and brings everyone to heel.

Hehe. Well, it's either that or Idiocracy: The Prophecy. Actually, I expect the end of this world by about 2060 or so, so don't invest too much in this life imo. Should be an exciting ride tbh.

If you're going to outsource then outsource to Russia, stay the fuck away from chinks & pajeets. But don't outsource.

May both of us and all of Holla Forums live in interesting times, m8.

My situation is stable for now and I can probably work through my 60s without much headache; so I'm in it just to live my cushy life and enjoy happenings. While donating to various causes, of course.

trips suggest finland x:ddddd

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We're so close to AI programmers, not even joking. Soon we'll be able to request any program that does almost anything within reason just by describing it.

If you guys are IT inclined, make sure you're studying Mathematics. There's going to be greater demand for more difficult tasks, and less demand for bottom tier programers. That's without anything Trump is doing.

No.

It's true. You can't stop it. Even now you can create with merely some templates.

You mean I have to stop asking pajeet scam callers if they're holding the phone in the hand they wiped their ass with after shitting in the street?

With major tech luminaries and NWO types coming out publicly against AI, I think we're closer than you think, user.

Remember that story about the Facebook pseudo-AIs that they had to turn off almost immediately after they started using their own language that the engineers couldn't understand?

Gives me hope.

Perhaps I'm mistaken, but you'd need to end up building programs to handle vague requests. The most typical thing about a computer is it is so autistic that you need to tell it to do each and every exact little step and what to do for those following steps in a sequential order.

Yes, but it was vastly over exaggerated by the media. Data entry Indians should certainly be scared, but there is a vast technological leap needed to go from where we are today, to writing arbitrary programs.

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whats with loo dodgers obsession with java? is it the most simple language?

Canadian here trying to get into IT. I'd appreciate being able to actually get a job even if it's in the states and I have to drive across the border every day

I would guess its because Android apps are written in Java.

It's a language which makes it possible for lower skilled programmers to be used as interchangeable cogs. It's not the most simple in terms of complexity, but it was designed to be a far simpler alternative to C++, specifically removing the need for memory management which is a massive source of bugs and erroneous behaviour in the hands of a low-skilled programmer. It's a sort of goldie locks level of complexity, being flexible enough for a wide spectrum of requirements, and easy enough for an Indian to use. While it has found use in the corporate world, Java implementations showcase poor performance (relative to compiled languages) and is absolutely disgusting in terms of design.

I can see why they like it.

How? Crap code is not particularly easy to drop new people into. Besides that, memory management is a serious burden even for expert programmers, and actually isn't something that should have to be dealt with in most programs. The other thing that makes Java (and Python and others) easier is the third-party libraries to slot in instead of having to write everything from scratch, again, something to avoid.

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You really have to see it in person to believe it. Third-worlders will live in sewage and think nothing of it. Pick up a shovel? Nah, that's beneath me. Meanwhile they starve on a pile of garbage. Gotta enforce order with .303's or let them sink.

I had to go on Freelancer .com and hire Indians to finish my website. It wasn't my first choice, they became my only choice after a friend tried ripping me off.
I ended up having a Latvian coder clean up all their mistakes. They were very difficult to work with. They can do basic IT that requires no abstract thinking, basic code. If you tell them to do a specific thing, they'll come up with something that isn't exactly what you had paid them to do but they'll argue with you that it is good enough and anything more will require more time and more money spent.

They're the absolute worst. My gf used to work at walgreens and had to deal with Indians trying to haggle prices all the time. They never wanted to pay the price of the item, they acted like they were still in India and could jew around with the prices on things.

Another recent Indian encounter, I went to a Dunkin' Donuts. Apparently, they're owning a lot of these now. They gave me a "free" donut. Only, it was free because it was a stale donut that should have been thrown out instead of given to a paying customer.

They're absolute nigger-tier garbage people. What is it like 50% of them in their own country shit in the street and have no plumbing? What the fuck, guys?

they'll pick one up to kill something.

Yes, the Java standard library is another one of its appeals. They teach design patterns to help Java programmers maintain a sense of familiarity amongst projects.

That only furthers my point. If it's difficult for the experts to get right, imagine the results of outsourcing C++ to India. Their are some nicer ways of handling memory management safely and efficiently (without slow garbage collectors) but they all tend to increase the complexity of the language, Ada and Rust being two examples.

Har! Recently one morning I stopped by some shitskin run donut shop in a rush. (didn't know at the time) I just wanted a fucking small, one dollar, plain black coffee and a shitty plain donut as I had 6 million tasks to accomplish by sundown.


These were arab thieves but the ruse is the same. Told them to fuck off. They will fail with that shit around here.

In Australia they own all the 7-11s, they hire other Indians and pay them slave wages. The company got in trouble a few years back when they got found out.

Someone please start a post about REAL ID being enforced by 2020, I would just cuck it up.

Could've thrown in Pajeet

Checks out.

You do it too? Man I have fucked up so many of these operations its like a game to me now.

user, you’ve clearly never worked with Indians or any other 3rd worlder. They have a production mindset. Quantity, not quality. They are willing and able to churn out a mountain of shit work on demand, rapid fire, but if you ask them to be accurate, they’ll usually fry a circut and not understand the concept.

Some of them aren’t this way, but those ones are rare.

Anyone in tech knows that working in an office full of these people is a fucking nightmare, here's a notable greentext from a past job.

you choose this life for every jew you enrich by not taking life seriously enough to fight either by homeless/innawoods or living in austerity while pushing resources towards the securing of your future and against those people.

hurr durr go be homeless, nigger you are on the internet I know you are full of shit, I have kids to feed, and I work in defense now because they dont allow h1b workers.

I've seen the educational requirements for masters degrees in the tech and cyber security field in the U.S.A. they are sorely wanting.

If we can't do it well, why would we expect India to?

POO = FLUSHED

Local McDs in area by airport, stop in a 8PM on a wed during school in session for some coffee and fries (number 1) for the drive home FULL (20+) of dot females with two bratz minimum each, bratz running around dining-room screaming and yelling, notice there is a Veggie Big Mac sign. Bathroom was disgusting, thank goodness I only had to number 1.
Check Restaurant Inspection Ratings

ayyyy this bad goy gets it
let amazon, facebook, google, etc. literally turn into shit.
switch to defense.

Except for the fact you need to specify exactly what you want when programming, simple tasks for say home automation? Sure. But someone still has to create the framework and modify it, and you're not going to use an AI to write an entire operating system on it's own either.

Its far from perfect since it contributes to ZOG, but its overwhelmingly white and the lesser of several evils.

They'll have to scrable and pay more to replace those with American workers, many of whom are now working other roles which will also need to be replaced by more job seekers.

From what I've read am I right in saying this almost completely effects poo in the loo and actually makes it easier for other immigrants to get H-1B visas's, ie Europeans?

I can't wait to see how Liberals find a fault with this

You are always going to get "lmao you deserved it" responses here.
It's too stupid to be shilling. Unless the shilling has been outsourced to poos.

Thank God. These people are the worst, they exist to pad out tech roles who at best are able to accomplish 1/2 of what other programmers can.

The social contract is an Enlightenment idea whereby human beings, otherwise born free, give up certain rights and accept duties to live in a society in which remaining rights are upheld. We give up the option of violence for revenge, but the state uses their monopoly on violence to promote safety and order. We have a duty to keep properties free of harmful waste, as it infringes on the rights of health and cleanliness of neighbours.

Basically, the social contract is the general deal or arrangement we can expect from the institutions, people, and environments around us, having been born into a society.

Actually, thanks to Stroustrup's RAII & the paradigms behind Stepanov, et al's STL not only memory management, but highly optimized algorithms incorporating it are a snap. My favorite C++ syntax element?
}

Deterministic resource management is both incredibly important for high-performance software, and incredibly easy to implement in C++.

Just got off the phone with Deepak. He told me something was wrong with my computer, and he was from windows. I then dropped my pants, and pooed.

What did I miss fam?

digits confirm massive salt flows heh.

not just loo dodgers, also degree mills like this shit. They take a whole week per basic syntax and don't introduce functions until the last few weeks.

kek

Great point. There is a remarkable book by the father of the STL Elements of Programming viz. Euclid's Elements worth investigating for those who do so. There is simply no better treatise atm on the crossover of both fields with each other. Entirely non-poo compatible.
elementsofprogramming.com/book.html

PRAISE KEK

PAJEET BTFO

Where do I start?

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Since you're posting here user, we can safely assume you're past basic arithmetic. The great Stepanov himself recommends you start here. Couldn't pretend to know more than he on the topic of mathematics.
djm.cc/library/Algebra_Elementary_Text-Book_Part_I_Chrystal_edited.pdf

Took Trump being elected for anyone to even consider my resume, it took his admin coming out against H1-Bs for me to land a job as a Jr. Sys Admin

Looks like a good start thanks user.

same. Got an email. Ignored it. Beg more, fuckers.

gratz user


nprb user gl

Part of it is cultural. They don't ask questions and will follow tickets even if it is harmful because questioning their boss is culturally unacceptable even if for clarification. A carefully worded ticket could get one of these idiots to drop a database or delete everything. I wonder how many of these rotten bastards will go into tech support scams.

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Why? Just get rid of the poos and let your fellow white man do the job. Automation is a march towards extinction

They haven't really lost them. The kikes running the companies are just waiting to use them. Treating them like a temp agency pool rather than employees. White people still won't get the jobs.

Let me know when you can force the jews running the show to hire whites.

thank kek
t. STEMfag

When we bring back mandatory camping trips.

OK, there's more info here. While the MSM was (still is, tbh) in Trump-hate-hysterics, things were happening all over the world, in 2016, 2017. One of the big events was this:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Indian_banknote_demonetisation

Algera and Analysis (Calculus) are the two areas you'll want to be strong in, but they can be hard to leap into if you do not have much inspiration. For that reason, I think geometry is the most intuitive for beginners. Which is probably why geometry was strongly emphasized in education prior to whites being alongside feeble minded niggers. Funny enough, and related to the thread, geometry is still big in India, where they are following the old British education system.

I quite like this book, it's still a textbook, but provides the historical context for the development of the field. It covers classical and analytic geometry, with the former being intellectually stimulating and the latter, more modern incarnation, being very useful.
amazon.com/Geometry-History-Undergraduate-Texts-Mathematics/dp/3642291627/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1514482110&sr=8-1&keywords=geometry by its history

Looks like a really nice book, I'll have to take a look at it sometime.

Thank you I used to learn Geometry back in college. Never really struggled with it but a refresher is needed. I'll look into that book for sure.

Since book recommendation can be a part of this thread: For you beginners who have forgotten everything about math: AoPS Pre-Algebra or Serge Lang's Basic Mathematics would be a good start. After that you could take (in the case of the prior) Spivak's (or Bartle's) Analysis book (maybe skipping the first chapter in Spivak which is unintuitive). In the case of the latter you would do AoPS Introduction to Algebra. After that you would follow the same path as before (actually, you could pick up the intermediate algebra book, but that's leagues beyond most).
You would also want to look into the USACO online training pages if CS is your thing. he key thing many lack is the ability to problem solve, & things like this help in cultivating that skill.
For geometry recommendations, AoPS Intro. to Geo., then Evan Chen's EGMO would be good books (I don't know if you necessarily need a bridge between these two).

If you find you really love mathematics, the best undergraduate Analysis books I've seen is this 3 volume set by Amann and Escher. Only for the whitest of the whites though. Another really good option is Zorich's two volume set (which is better if you want physics applications).
amazon.com/Analysis-I-Herbert-Amann-ebook/dp/B00EJSOFQ4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1514487796&sr=8-2&keywords=analysis amann

In the UK and we use a lot of pakis to meet diversity hires.

The code diaper is real

Fucking indians. And the feather variety doesn't go well here either.

WHO NEEDS THE KWIK E MART!

Coding requires ingenuity and creativity. Their breeding makes them capable of being shown a simple process and then repeating it ad infinitum, not finding elegant solutions to complex problems.

Subways Sandwiches on pooicide watch!

SMUG AND KAMPFY

In spite of what they will tell you, Indians speaking English is still a foreign language to them. Most people there either speak Hindi or Punjabi, among hundreds of other local languages they have, and only start learning English after a few years in school. Nothing seems to be able to get them to stop reversing the pronunciations of W and V. Europeans usually take the same amount of English classes in school, but they generally end up speaking English with better grammar and a wider vocabulary.

It's absolutely amazing. There is literally nothing else in existence like it.


Digits confirm truth.
pick one.

there are lots of free educational resources, its a widely used and taught language. the syntax is quite messy, after a while it becomes quite obvious its patchwork of code libraries. Good enough for an android app or a windows business application, which is big part of the programming market. It is a bit of a lazy language, being that people just bolt on a pre built class library to do the heavy lifting without much understanding of the inner working of that class library. Some of the better IDE's make it really easy. perfect for pajeets who are lazy and don't care.

This is very useful to show others when trying to demonstrate deeply ingrained cultural differences.


don't ask to be spoon-feed you noob

Everything looks like it's out of the '60's…

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it was filmed in Dubai. No chance of a place in India being that clean.

Depending on where you go it is night and day. I think they hire the unclean to polish the turds in the streets.

Poos don't belong in our lands because they're of a different race and that's all that matters. Concerns over their intelligence or lack of it are irrelevant outside of considerations of how much of a threat the competing nation India is and the race which it is made up of.
As for the return to natural race based nation states it'd be insane to have everyone highly intelligent (even among white people) and endlessly debating each others competency, decisions and so on. Nothing would ever get done. Only leaders need to be concerned with thinking and planning, then taking full responsibility they issue orders for everyone else to diligently carry out. Most wouldn't even want to struggle with mentally challenging problems rather choosing to do honest simple work that's adequately respected and well paid for.

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Walled gardens are a thing.

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Always gets a kek out of me.

i live in burgerland close to the mexico border, and even the big cities like tijuana, juarez, and matamoros arent that slummy… (well yeah parts of those cites are, but not along the border, the slums tend to be more inland…