Utopianism

The origins of the Globalist/Communist cult

Before Hegel, before Marx, Moses Hess, and Rothschilds there was the Vatican writer and anti-Protestant Thomas More, author of Utopia.

In Utopia, there are no lawyers because of the laws' simplicity and because social gatherings are in public view (encouraging participants to behave well), communal ownership supplants private property, men and women are educated alike, and there is almost complete religious toleration (except for atheists, who are allowed but despised).
More used monastic communalism as his model (cults), although other concepts such as legalizing euthanasia remain far outside Church doctrine.

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, the Russian Nobel Prize-winning anti-Communist author, and survivor and historian of the Soviet prison camps, argued that Soviet communism needed enslavement and forced labour to survive, and that this had been " …foreseen as far back as Thomas More, the great-grandfather of socialism, in his Utopia"


Utopianism infecting 1800's Freemasony

After Thomas More was executed for Treason against the British crown by siding with the Vatican, utopian thought moved to the occult section of European thought. By the 1800's the neo-Freemasonry, modern esoterics, and neo-Templars can be explained against the background of debates about the origins and character of True Christianity.
It has been pointed out that these debates included contemporary forms of Romantic Socialism, or Utopian Socialism, which were seen as the heirs of the Gnostics, Templars, and other mystics.
Eliphas Lévi (father of the modern occult pre-Crowley), being himself an adherent of these schools since the 1840s, regarded the socialists and Romantics (such as Lamartine) as the successors of this alleged tradition of true religion. In fact, his narrative mirrors historiographies of socialism. Consequently, the Baphomet is depicted by Lévi as the symbol of a revolutionary heretical tradition that would soon lead to the "emancipation of humanity" and the establishment of a perfect social order.


Baphomet = Templar's god of unity, wealth and wisdom… which became a sabbath goat later with Levi and Guaita

Baphomet symbolism is now being used by the Globalist along with other occult, Templar-Religion of Cuck™ic and Freemasonic symbolism because of their revolutionary origins and opinions on the state of "True Christianity" or "Utopianism"… later known as World Socialism.

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The origin is jews.

SIDE NOTE:

The highest Alchemist goal of turning iron into gold (non-precious metal into precious metal) was solved by the Templars and it made them rich. The Answer: FAITH.

Back to /fringe/ tinfoil nigger.

This is a basic history thread nigger. No magic involved, just writers on it who happened to influence Marx/Hess and create the modern Brave New World.

You're dumb. Don't post anymore on Holla Forums.

No one cares about your kosher Satan kikery.

Look at any Hollywood actress posing for the cameras, every single one of them makes the Baphomet sign (index and middle finger extended, other digits retracted), the horns of the goat god (index and pinkie extended) and the sign for 666, misinterpreted as "ok", and the tongue of the baphomet (tongue protruding as far as possible and curling down over the chin.)
It is not fringe, it is reality.

No one cares about your (((Alt-Right))) poser double-speak you fucking shill.

This post is good.


This post is not.

It's well documented that the Templar's created a "banking" system where potential pilgrims would leave their funds with a Templar near their home, and they would later be able to withdraw those same funds from where-ever they were pilgrimaging to. It's not surprise that people accused them of sorcery, alchemy, thievery, extortion and all manner of things - a rich and influential military order is going to attract many enemies. These claims however do not mean anything; it's akin to niggers saying that white people get good grades because they cheat / teachers are white too and purposefully mark niggers down. Such a claim is idiotic and worthless.

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Good info, but used by a sensationalists OP who misinterpreted utopias with the (((Yahveh Squad))) like a nigger.

It's the first use of the term Utopia, from a book called Utopia.

Imply Kim Kardasian isn't a succubus

I mean you're not wrong about her.

here is the secret

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And? What's your point?

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There it is… Vatican-Jewish-Occult Utopianism.

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What do you want /pleb? You want me to explain all those historical symbols to you because the alex jones inspired youtube channel you watch said it was all "Iluminati"?

Stop spamming.

There isn't a "Globalist/Communist cult", there's jews. Their endgame is a jewish utopia, as outlined in the Talmud, governed by the Noahide laws.

World Zionism wasn't utopian but world dominance before "Utopian" was invented. Etimology is important pleb. World Zionism is more like an authoritarian messianic line of royality ruling over the plebs. There was no Talmud before Roman Christianity, it's not that old. They wanted their own Cesar to rule over goy slaves and ATTACHED themselves to utopian socialism.

It's a fact that Socialism came from Catholic writers. It's a fact that Catholics wanted and still dream of a New World Order under their own homosexual preisthood. It's a fact that they destroyed Aryan history of Western/Eastern Europe and pasitically replaced our legends with Saints (Merry Yule).
And they did the same thing in South America.

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Read what was written, you filthy fucking yid.

The etymology of the word is irrelevant. The Talmudic tradition existed orally in the time of Christ, and it is the source of the "New World Order". Anti-Catholic conspiracy theories have always been a distraction, often manufactured, spread, and financed by the jew.

No. When Titus destroyed the second temple, one of the leftover rabbi's sought permission to resume their teachings, this resulted in the Talmud.

This is why many people point that modern Judaism is functionally not the same religion as that of Christ's, they do not have the ark nor a temple to offer sacrifice for sins. This why many argue in terms of supersessionism, the method of true sacrifice and forgiveness of sins has been passed on to us through the Eucharist.

fun-fact: the Churches used to uphold the welfare of the people, the State by holding up the Church took care of the welfare of people this way. There were no taxes in England for the sake of welfare, the Church took care of everything.

It went from donating whatever you wished to petition to the Church, to mandatory taxation.

Yep, reported for jewish shilling.

It's NEVER irrelevant. Semantics and origins in history topics matter. That's a huge life lesson for you.

Whilst it's a good idea to point out where there is corruption in various institutions; including Freemasons, Templars and the Vatican - your linking of a single text, believed to be ironic, written from a single man who himself was executed; as reasoning for blaming an entire religion and everyone that is and has ever been a part of it - is ridiculous.

More ridiculous still is that you're posting on Holla Forums and haven't heard of the Oral Torah. You're a shill, get out. May Christ has mercy upon your soul, parasite.

Eric Jon Phelps is the most popular jesuit conspiracy merchant. He's an Israeli diamond merchant with a jewish wife, who wants to establish a Protestant/jewish ethnostate in Pennsylvania. He's kiked.

And that's the rule, not the exception.

Maimonides, who popularized the idea that Gentiles would be a part of he jewish new world order, and would be forced to adhere to the Noahide Laws, lived in the twelfth century.

The God you are looking for is Khnum.

He is part of the original trinity, but is also just a scam.

The cult that invented Khnum knew that religion could be used to control people and their secrets are spelled out on red granite obelisks cut from quarries in Aswan Egypt, where Eratosthenes was able to measure the circumference of the earth.

Eventually, the Red Granite obelisk was moved to the front of the Library of Alexandria, that held the secrets of the psychology cult that rebranded their trinity every few generations to keep religion "updated" properly for mass appeal.

That same red granite obelisk still stands, only they moved it in front of the Vatican in St Peter's square.

Communism is just another rebranding.

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hipster

Ideas of origins. Socialism, Utopianism has origins. He was executed by the Brits for siding with the Pope.
t. "not all Jews"

What's more ridiculous is that you're constantly supporting Jewish myths thereby giving them meme power to their degenerate inbred cult.

Don't curse me with your rabbi demon, user. It doesn't work on me.
Praise KEK.


This has nothing to do with Jesuits.

You have to provide more information than that… Again, that's not Socialism or Utopianism, it's World Zionism, and that was inspired by Roman Christianity.

New information is hard to swallow for anons who think they are redpilled beyond learning, repeating memes/ideas out of defensiveness and refusal to learn
You're never too old to learn new things user. Grow up.

sage

were watching you

endless

Yes, your spam is endless. Fortunately our hatred of your kind is endless. sage

Faggot cannot speak English.

If you think that was the first instant of proto-communism then you're an idiot without compare. I liked your first post, the rest of what you've said is idiocy.

Slippery kike tries to conflate Christianity with Judaism. Here is what you need to realise:
For the last 1,500 years almost every white person has been a Christian. Almost all of our heroes were Christian, and the few who were not were heavily influenced by Christian ideas. By attacking Christianity in this way you serve the will of the Jew, the children of Satan, by leaving us without origin or heritage - this same ploy is pushed in a variety of ways constantly by your verminous kind. It is beyond obvious to us here what you are doing.

Regarding the 'not all jews' bs - Judaism literally tells Jews to enslave, extort, manipulate, deceive and rule over the rest of humanity. It marks them out as the 'true humans' with us being mere beasts who they are allowed to murder, abuse or profit off in any way they desire. Now it might be true that there is one or two Jews out there who don't hold to the actual tenets of their Satanic faith - but we can assume that most Jews actually follow the Jewish ways, and as such it IS all Jews. Christianity does not push anything that you've said, or the few verses that are always taken out of context are such a small part that very few if any Christians EVER have taken them to mean what the Jews and Communists today try to assert.

All you're doing is trying to attack Christians on Christmas. It's the same thing every year Moishe. You're all going to hell.

The idea of a jewish world order is ingrained in judaism, it wasn't inspired by any form of Christianity.

Deuteronomy

Reminder that the only ideologies to name the jew are Christianity and National Socialism.

This. Judaism/Talmudism is everything shitty about desert religions but without any of the uplifting spiritual components. Instead, it focuses on hedonism and base pleasures. The Jew version of heaven is just Earth with all the non-Jews bound as their slaves. That's not an exaggeration. Jew heaven is when their messiah comes to Earth and instantly enslaves all non-Jews to serve the Jewish overlords for eternity.

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This stuff always seems to come down to conflict. These people think conflict comes from some source, that its not intrinsic to existence - which is funny, considering most will claim to believe in Darwinian evolution, which functions on struggle and conflict - and therefore believe they can excise the source and allow a state of existence for humans which is bereft of conflict, bereft of struggle.

But that's retarded.
Struggle is well-spring from whence strength flows.
Conflict is eternal, ubiquitous, is the platform upon which life develops.

Thank you for an interesting little historical examination of the origins of these deluded deviants, and happy yule.

It's because the whole world view is based on blind faith in a creator whose divine order should rule the world. But outside forces constantly besiege this order, in the form of non-believers. So they must constantly struggle against them to restore that divine order. Jews, mosles, and early Christians all had this world view, and there were even more religions. Read Decline of the West from Spengler, he explains it quite well. Although he obviously wrote that book a century ago, and he couldn't foresee the march of Marxism, and he also failed to see the true extent of jewish influence.

Full time non-Christmas celebrating Mossad agents and the Catholic-homosexual-pedophile occult shills who monitor full time are trying to destroy the thread

this thread is not about Christianity


this thread is not about Christianity


this thread is not about Christianity


this thread is not about Christianity

this thread is not about Christianity

this thread is not about Christianity

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this thread is not about Christianity

This thread is not about religion

This thread is about the origins of Utopian theory, written by a man who invented the term!


shill

False
Western Europeans were not Christian until the mid-1200s AD. It was only 6-700 years before Europeans rejected rabbi worship, and during those years the white race lost its genetic unity and put Jews in power.

Anyone who was not Christian was murdered.

This thread wasn't about that.
=you=
made it about that. Because you're a shill and a stupid shill at that.

Not all Catholics my fellow faggots and Rabbi worshipers!

Hence utopia

Yule. Your religion is parasitical Semitic cult.


Dues Valt! KILL ALL NON-CHRISTIANS! Covert Africans or die!

t. 5 books of Moses…. Not Jewish at all…


Reminder that Roman pagans like Cicero, Pantheist Founding Fathers, Athiets, Odinists, even Marx himself named the Jew. You rabbi god is a fucking Semite


Utopian global Socialism is still inspired by ==Vatican writers and EVERY Catholic Priest you will ever talk to.==

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Christians don't see the world in that way, though. Christian ideology teaches that sin is a part of the world - an inevitable result of humans possessing the ability to act morally. The mortal body is a trial, and struggle is to be accepted. It is through this that man is able to grow stronger and eventually grow closer to God.

The "hard times create strong men -> create good times -> create weak men -> create hard times" cycle is a reflection of this. When there is no struggle, humans grow weak. They become consumed by sin, and lose their morality. The result is societal collapse. This is also reflected in the aristocracy, who inevitably become sinful and corrupt as time goes on. Hence why the great kings of Europe have always been those born into struggle and war, or who have founded their lines. Inbred nobles with inglorious lives are simply a form of well-dressed pond scum.

That the Devil played a part in introducing sin into the world is true - but it was man who made the choice, and continues to make the choice. The original sin of man is to know what is right and yet not to act upon it, and it continues to this day.

More on point to the OP:
Utopian ideology is inherently in opposition to Christian ideology; it's the attempt by Man to reach God. See also: Tower of Babel.

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You are speaking of the Faustian Christianity, not the Magical Christianity that existed in the Roman Empire and in Byzantium. For them it was all about being part of the consensus of believers who had to stand together against the darkness that is the rest of the world. For them the nation was based on faith, not on blood. This is why they, just like moslems and jews, had to create theocracies.

Con't
Another idea at the heart of the banking process invented by the Templars is the concept that money can be “seeded” into a business endeavor, or loaned out upon usury, and, through the miracle of the banking process, grow or multiply exponentially.

These are ideas that appear, allegorically, not only in alchemical manuscripts and in the medieval Grail romances associated with the Knights Templar, but also in the Bible. The practice of tithing contains this principle at its heart, and many of the parables of Christ expound upon it.

King Solomon, renowned for his wealth and wisdom, knew the secrets as well, and may have profited from consultations with a demon named Asmodeus. According to extra-biblical legends, Asmodeus was conjured by Solomon through magic, and conscripted to take over the building of Solomon’s famed temple to God.

The figure of Asmodeus, as described in Middle Eastern legends, has a great deal in common with that of Baphomet, and I believe that they represent the same entity. I see no reason why the demon that the Templars may have discovered beneath the ruins of the Temple of Jerusalem could not have been the same demon who built the original Temple that once stood there.

After all, it was (the supposed) Solomon’s Temple that gave the Templar order its name.

Moreover, when digging around in Jerusalem, the Templars may have even come across examples of an ancient Tyrian coin that is likely to have been among Solomon’s treasury. The coin bears the image of a serpent wrapped around a tree.

This symbol not only denotes the Tree of Knowledge in the Garden of Eden, but it could also be equated with the serpent-entwined magic wand of Hermes, the caduceus, which is a symbol of the alchemical process of transmutation.

It further resembles yet another well-known symbol of wealth:

the dollar sign.

It could be a coincidence, or it could be evidence of the continuance of a tradition, from ancient Tyre, to King Solomon, to the Knights Templar, and eventually to the Freemasons who were responsible for the creation of the U.S. dollar.

This form of the caduceus is used by the medical profession. A common form of the caduceus, a serpent on a Tau cross, could be the origin of the dollar sign, according to David Ovason.
Ovason also notes that the alchemical sign for mercury is very similar to the dollar sign.
Ancient coin from Tyre featuring the Pillars of Hercules and the serpent in the Tree of Knowledge, another possible origin for the dollar sign.

Another piece of evidence linking the U.S. dollar with the Templar wisdom of wealth which they derived from the Baphomet has to do with the number 13.

The Templars seem to have associated their idol with this number, and it is believed that this is why King Philippe decided to have them arrested on Friday the 13th of October, as a gesture of defiance.
The date thereafter became a cursed day. Long after the demise of the Templars, pirates, many of them Freemasons, sailed in ships bearing the standard of the Jolly Roger.
It featured the skull and crossbones, a symbol used by the Templars to represent Baphomet, beneath which was written the number “13.”

This number is not only on the present one dollar bill, it can be found on the early forty-dollar note , on the first fifty-dollar bill, and on the first pennies issued by the United States.
13 can also be found throughout the very structure of the U.S. monetary system.

For instance, consider the fact that there are exactly six types of coins, and seven denominations of paper money, currently in circulation in the U.S., adding up to a total of thirteen. Then there is the fact that the Treasury Department was created in 1789, exactly thirteen years after the birth of the USA in 1776.

The government even made a point of putting the date 1789 on the Treasury Department Seal in 1966, almost 190 years after the fact.
The Treasury Seal, by the way, contains thirteen stars in its chevron. All-Seeing Eye, 13 stars, and 26 rays.

The Fed was created in 1913. It consists of one Board of Governors overseeing twelve Federal Reserve Districts, and one central bank controlling twelve district banks, which in turn then control all of the member banks.

That's not the source of the "$" sign. Though you seem to believe in demons and making gold via prayer, so I shouldn't try to debate you.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!

WTF is it with you (((people)))? Were you given a mandate to just fuck up threads with nonesense. You got to wikipedia and (((selectively))) use one of their images and ignore the rest?

LOL! You're pathetic.

Is "Kant and Hegel created GOMMUNISM!" some kind of boomer narrative? Cuz it's so laughably dumb.

The dollar symbol predates the formation of the United States.
Normalfag source because that's all you are:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dollar_sign
The pseudoskeptic soon outs itself.

Kant was never mentioned and Hegel had a massive influence of Socialist theory, such as the Master Slave Dialectic and Hegelian Synthesis, all 1800s+ socialist theorist mention Hegel as an influence.

Are you trying to pose as intelligent? Because that's laughable. Try lurking longer before opinion sharing because you're not ready for the big boy talks yet, kiddo.

Yes, and you know what else owes a great deal to Hegel? I'll give you a hint…


No.

This "the cult" terminology is popping up a lot in ">not the jews" threads, is it something from the Q LARP?

Did I say he didn't?

No.

0 for 2, kiddo

You seem lost, here's were you really belong: reddit.com

NICE!

Where did you get that awesome sense of humor (((user)))? Was it the (((Alt-Right))) handbook for modern internet warfair?

I won't deny that there have been alternative views held since the dawn of the Church - gnostics and their ilk being among the various sects who have held peculiar ideologies, while all forms of "spiritualist" sects continue into today with blasphemous practices - but it is nevertheless an inaccurate representation of the faith.

Theocracy is an interesting topic, since when looking over the words of Christ, you can see that he was greatly in opposition to the Church holding sway over the state. His enemies were not the mostly secular (and pagan) Romans, but the religious leaders of the Jewish people. This is because, fundamentally, mankind is all equal in corruption. A group of Christians forming a state is no freer of this than a group of pagans - indeed, a group of Christians may be worse, as they are peculiarly vulnerable to self-righteousness and pride. To paraphrase C.S. Lewis: it is better to live under the tyranny of a robber baron than the rule of moral busybodies; for while the tyrant may grow tired and take rests, the self-righteous man is driven to never rest from his intrusions.

The Catholic Church proves the best example of this. What was meant to be a great organization created to glorify God, inevitably grew into one of the most powerful and corrupt political institutions. The Whore of Babylon, sitting upon the Scarlet Beast of Rome.

I was going to attack your christcucking in regards to "spiritualism" but then you made too many good and truthful points.

You should become Pastor. Fuck Pastor Anderson who says "we are all Africans" though. Arnold Murray is the only Christian I still respect.

And out.

See, this will always be my biggest point of contention with Christianity, even as a Christian myself. I see mankind as beautiful, but weak and flawed. Most acts of evil are made in moments of weakness. This of course doesn't apply to actual fucking evil like Jews and Muslims, all of which act out of malice and hatred. The idea that all of humanity is some wretched animal, rife with sin and in constant need of atonement is highly Semitic and unnatural. Anyone who cites modern culture as the true face of mankind is ignoring the gross materialistic Jewish influences that govern society.

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Christianity is just honest about mankind. Something we forget as Christians is that it was only after man was created that God saw everything was then "very good." Man is the pinnacle of creation. It was given to man to name every plant and animal. Man alone is made in the image of Almighty God-bearing not just his spiritual and intellectual likeness, but also that of imagination-and was given all of creation to subdue it and rule over it.

Yet, from beginning to end both Old and New Testaments are honest about humanity. You find examples of both the good and the bad within the Scripture. The idea of constant atonement came from the Law of Moses, with it's annual Sin Offering, which was a shadow of the ultimate atonement offering in Christ Jesus. For he died "once for all" after all.

And let us look at our history, as man. Despite all the good there is in it, all the wonderful things we have built, all the inventions and breakthroughs in medicine and the various fields of science, the history of mankind is one marked with conquest, blood, genocide, murder, theft, greed, and ever evil thing under the sun. It's not that everyone is someone who plans evil all the time, but, lets face it. The greatest of the commandment is first to love the Lord your God with all of your being, second is to love your neighbor as yourself.

Putting aside the first one for now, do you love yourself? Not with vain pride but a love for yourself that you are not worthless, but were wroth the life of God Himself in the Incarnate Son? Then, do you love your neighbor? And is not all mankind your neighbor? The hatred for Jew, Black, Arab, etc, for anyone who is not of the white race on Holla Forums is an indication of something.

The problem with the law is that when you break one law, you are guilty of it all. Thus, despite there being many good people, something had to happen to atone for it all. For all the bad in humanity.

Polite sage for going off topic

no!

Either learn how to spot a paid shill or get out.

Ah, I forget here. Both Old and New Testaments are translations from their native languages, (Hebrew and the Koine (or common) Greek of the 1st century. The Greeks had five different words for love, the writers of the NT took one of those words, and elevated it.

That word is agape. It simply means a love that sacrifices for others, or puts the well being of others above oneself. It is the most commonly used word for love in the entire New Testament. It is not a love that will constantly be shat on, however, simply one that will seek the well being and have good will towards all, and if possible, help all whom the possessor of such love can help within their ability and means.

Honestly, this is one of the reasons why NatSocs and other authoritarians hate Christians, we cannot be racist. Certainly, we can view humanity through an honest lens, and take note that there are indeed biological differences between the various types of man walking around, as Holla Forums loves to point out, but all men are worthy of salvation, and all men are worthy of the love of God should they chose to accept it.

With all that said however, the Scripture also teaches us that we are to live in peace with our fellow man, as best as we are able to (Romans 12:18)

You have no idea what Christianity is. The white race saw its most expansive and dominant period when it was faithfully Christian (think Victorian England which conquered half the world.) The moment they dropped their faith, their empires fell away with them. And the moment they dropped their faith and started promoting sodomy, feminism, et. al.; that’s when the birth rate started plummeting and that’s when pro-immigration became popular and that’s when the white race really became in danger.

A man can be a nationalist and a Christian. A man cannot be an internationalist and a Christian. The purpose of missionary work is to spread the gospel to foreign nations, not to import foreign nations into your own and dislodge the gospel to make room. In fact, it was God who divided the races, and God wants the races to remain separate on earth. Once we get to heaven, we’ll be given new bodies and we’ll all be one race and one nation. That new body will be better than any fleshly body and you will be like God because He will remake you in His image. Christianity is a religion that acknowledges the existence of race. You can still be a racist and a Christian. But you should be willing to give the gospel to those you perceive as lesser races; if you are truly a master race then you should be a good steward and govern the world well as your fathers did. Not promote filth, sodomy, and decay in the name of fighting the “oppression” of Christianity.
I’ll address Luke 6:35. The “love” in “love your enemies” is ἀγαπᾶτε, a conjugate of agape. This is not love like you love your mom–storge–not love like in romance–eros–nor love for a friend–philos. This is loving your enemy like God loves them–agape. God does not love by making you feel good for doing evil. God does not allow one to sin and not suffer the natural consequences thereof. Christ is saying we should endeavor to reform and rehabilitate our enemies. At first blush, this suggests that leftists are right–that killing them is not the answer. But it is not right to go on letting them kill or enslave young Christian girls to be sold on the sex market, either. Where is your love for our brothers and sisters in Christ? Will you throw them aside for some infidels?

“That which you do to the least of my brothers, you do unto me.” Matthew 25:40 So, with a choice between effectively letting someone enslave and rape Jesus or destroying evildoers that have already determined to use force, I think it is a Christian answer to fight back. However, at the same time, there are already people fighting back and this Oregon guy does not have the means to help in that way. If this guy is called upon to go martyr himself for the faith, he should do it. His sacrifice for spreading the word will do good for Christ. I do not feel that is what God has called me to do, but the Holy Spirit, while the same essence, may call on each of us to use our talents in different ways. To sum up, 6:35 is not a prohibition on fighting to save oneself or other Christians, although it does put in a strong suggestion about trying other methods first. Just like every secular ideology in history.

How is that contradictory, though? Humans are made in the image of God. Humanity is, by its very nature, the most beautiful thing in the world. That does not prevent it from being flawed.

This is where the pride/humility issue gets in. There is a common assumption among a lot of Christians that since being overtly proud is bad, then being overtly humble must be good. This is the idea you describe - those who see themselves as constant sinners, with a need to punish themselves and to grovel endlessly.

Yet what is instead suggested is that mankind should strive to be accurate in how he assesses himself. Because of human nature, screwing up is something that will happen. Exercising self-control is important, and perhaps for some people, is enough to maintain things. If mankind were to be forced to atone for each sin, salvation would be all but impossible. But because of Christ's death, man is forgiven for these sins - he simply needs to seek it.

This is what differentiates Christianity from a lot of early faiths, including Judaism. Whereas many religions would have a need for sacrifices and offerings made to the gods, Christianity operates under the assumption that this price has already been paid. Christ, as a man born without sin, took on all evil's of the world and washed them away.

Now, one thing that a lot of people have trouble with is the race matter. Christianity does not, in fact, say anything about whether or not races are inherently equal. Mankind - all of mankind - rest above the animals, but not above God. What is mankind? That is difficult to say. There are many who would argue blacks or abbos are another species entirely. Me? I can't say one way or another. I've dealt with blacks that certainly seemed human, and seen a few mentally retarded whites that left me without much hope. Can't say I've seen much good about the aboos, but I've also never ran into any. Whatever the case, it certainly seems the case that whites, on the whole, are superior.

How does it relate to Christianity itself? Not as much. Anyone who attempts to live a sin free life, and accepts Christ as savior, is on path to heaven. Personally, I utilize this as my baseline for "humanity" - anyone so mentally lacking that they are unable to act with their own agency in religious matters, is just a meat puppet with the genetic template required to produce humans.

Even the semitic can walk this path. The Jewish religion, of course, is a faith founded on the basis of specifically rejecting Christ and his teachings, while the Moslems, though they accept his life, nevertheless reject his divinity. Hence why these faiths are fundamentally incapable of co-existing with Christianity.

As a side note: The reason things are bad now can almost directly be linked to the greed of the higher-ups in the Church and state alike, who desired wealth, and thus permitted the Jews to seize absolute control over banking and interest. From this, the Jews were able to become masters over Christians, and eventually, seize the greatest share of power in the western world. Were it not for the greed of the aristocracy, who permitted non-Christians to practice usury on their behalf, this could never have happened. Another example of how men in positions of power will inevitably find ways to screw over everyone else.


It would be nice to be a pastor, but I have yet to reach the point of self-control where I would see myself as fitting to take on such a role. For alas, I keep finding myself masturbating to anime girls.

See, there's only two types of people that can become a pastor - those who are pure enough to take on the role, and those who are so self-righteous that they can ignore their own hypocrisy and do it anyways. The second is arguably the more common of the two, but I was born with an acute sense of self-awareness which prevents me from treading that path.

Er, I'm not sure where you think you and I disagree on.

I do disagree that a Christian can be nationalistic though, since our kingdom is not of this world, though it has a physical presence (the church) it is not earthly in origin. We are called to be good, honest, loyal citizens, so far as the laws of man agree with the laws of God.

So let me ask you this, if your nation demands that you turn over your fellow man, Christian or not, simply because of the color of their skin, is that in keeping with the second of the greatest commandment? If your nation tells you that you can only preach the word of God to a particular race of people, and to no one else, do you listen to them or to the Lord who said "make disciples of all nations."

I like you. Good thoughts.

Oh shit it's a bot!

NO!

I lean a bit closer to:

In terms of the nationalism aspect.

More specifically, I think you should feel a sense of nationalism with regards to your people. As an American, for interest, you should have a vested interest in protecting your countrymen. The government of these nations is a different matter. Fundamentally, humanity does not need a state, but states require man. If the state calls upon its people purely to protect itself, and not the people which form it, this is an unjust cause than no Christian man should support.

In this regard, Christianity lends itself much closer to civic nationalism than to racial nationalism. The two can be one and the same, in a homogeneous society. But consider a place like Texas, which was formed by a mix of whites and tejanos working together. The nationalism of Texas would thus fundamentally be bi-racial - if its people wished to throw out the Chinese or Africans, or to reject foreign whites and non-native hispanics, that would be the logical outcome.

That is not to say that Christianity and nationalism are fundamentally intertwined - they do not strictly need each other. However, they are also not fundamentally incompatible. To be Christian and to be a nationalist is not an impossibility - It is only when you put king and country about God, that the problems arise. To do otherwise would be to make the state your religion.

Huh. I'd never quite looked at it that way. I agree with that outlook though, which falls into the "love your neighbor as yourself" mindset and living at peace with all men, as best we are able. Afterall, it is hard to live in peace with all men, if your national leaders are doing all they can to sow chaos and bring in peoples who are not peaceful.

The issue is that now we are in a society which has no mysteries. There is no mysterious group of people in the far east or down south (africa). There is also nothing barring one from going to said places such as a long trek or a harsh desert. As a conseqeunce, a global society is what exists. Thus, one must actively (not passively) attempt to maintain racial homogeniety. Stating that it "can" be one in the same (but admit to the civnat thing) means that it would passively "allow it" (racial homogeneity) but would not actively fight for it.
Also, I presume you meant above God.
That leads to a key issue (related to the passiveness I spoke of earlier). If God (read religion since, for the masses, they are one) is above king and country (not really an issue, the issue is moreso the issue of putting God above your family & kin), then if the religion becomes currupted, all falls apart. And, since Christianity only passively defends racial homogeneity (in its passages as well), someone could (theoritically/actually) make a claim that it's "right" in God's eyes that all are equal/should be allowed to mix, etc. Now, you might claim the king/country could become currupted as well, but you can replace those easily. It's replacing a religion (especially one which has to do with the end place of your soul) that's difficult, for who would risk damnation & (easily) replace one god with another?

This thread was wayyyyyy to high IQ for the modern state of the /last man/. It's delineated into (((Christian))) shit flinging….. and they don't even believe in their own tired foreign cult

Quality thread. The Jews browsing Holla Forums absolutely hate quality thread and especially when it's about them.

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Render under Caesar that which is Caesar’s. The kingdom to come isn’t the world of now.

I can't sign on to that idea. I was born white, not Christian. One thing definitely comes before the other, and it's the one that's tied to biology and the natural order. As a Christian, you should attribute both of those things to the works of the Lord and hold them in incredibly high regard.

I think most here would agree with you that Christianity was proto-Communism. I don't think most here would agree that this proto-Communism was void of Jewish influence. Neither of you have provided a source about the Talmud's conception before or after Christ. This is important because the argument is now being framed as who were the first NWO bad guys. I will say, if it is shown that the Talmud came after Christ, it is still foolish to believe the Jews were not evil before this. Mudman Christ himself will tell you this. Also, regardless of who were the original NWO bad guys, it is clear today that Jews control the Vatican and not the other way around.

National Socialism is the only thing I have found where people in power may not screw over everyone else. It is not a fairy tale. It is blood.

Also, the issue with Nat Soc isn't hate. It is separation of the races. Christianity recognizes this.

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And none of you faggots check these quads or dubs, disgusting.

Every belief system that has one worship (((equality))) and being a (((victim))) is from kikes.

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