Let's talk about Pokémon and the majority of their designs, Holla Forums...

Let's talk about Pokémon and the majority of their designs, Holla Forums. The first image is now more relevant than ever before, It appears it's not a problem with the things they're based on, but the execution and STREAMLINING of said Pokémon, compared to the detail and effort that was put into them before.
This has happened since Gen 2, but has improved in gen 3, then went back to being simple in 4+, for the most part.

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As you can see here, the detail from Vulpix, to the Alolan Vulpix has watered down significantly, see; paws, tail, stomach, snout, ears, etc. Further proof of said streamlining can be seen with other Pokemon as well. So, that being said, how would you, the artist, re-design and improve the currently existing and/or future Pokémon, along with series as a whole.

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Hire a furry artist and tell them to draw everything in his own style.

Someone like Guoh maybe?

OKAY user, you have to remember, this is an E-Rated game.

If this was M-Rated on the other hand…

good style

E rating on image boards means Explicit, so technically…

Besides furry art is only a swipe with the eraser away from modesty.

Make every Pokemon a bland orange dragon, a dog and a combination of 3 Pokemon.

S-stop that.

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They'll look the exact same then, there will be no difference. Look at gardevoir, she's not lewd or anything, but she's a fan-favorite for being porned and such.

Mexican Rats and Normal Rats are both gud ones tho.

Of course Rattata and Raticate were basically my favourite line in Gen 1, so im biased.

That's the point, is it not?

Get a single person to redesign it all.
Embrace the lewd.

Yeah, I know user, that's why I said most. I know each gen has a batch of really good designs, with very good execution!

Everything else is OK, but dat Absol is trash.

Hey user, try taking a later gen pokemon and designing it back the way gen 1 would. It's fun and it makes autists rage because they have no justification for why their shitty favourites need to have so many random stripes and spikes.

I'm tired of furfags doing this shit and derailing vidya discussion.
Why does Mark allow this?

Can someone do a chart like in 4th pic but with pokegirls? I don't have MS Paint or the autism needed to analyze it

WOWWW IT'S SO DIFFERENT!!! At least post the garchomp one that actually has meaningful changes.

Report it, if you don't like it.
As I recall, three or more porn images, spoilered or not, breaks the rules.


I'll do it when I get better, I need to keep lurking >>>/loomis/

Shit man, I did that in paint.


I know right? I barely did anything and its twice as good. Just goes to show that there's some talent still left in Game Freak buried under the crap. :^)

because it bothers you

I feel a little guilty for liking that gen one garchomp better than the spiked one.

It looks cleaner.

amazing style, would fuck

Three or more posts

This one is just fine

Well the main point someone brought up to me is "gen 1" garchomp doesn't look like a dragon. It looks like a water/flying type, while gen 5 charizard looks like a dark type. Well, I did agree with them, but if Litten's evolution turns out to be dark/fighting then I'm just going to take anyway any credit I would have given.

It's 3+ posts, not 3+ images.


The question was how to improve pokemon designs.

I even chose an artist that does everything the OP wants from Pokemon designs.

It's Fire/Dark. A starter can't be anything else (un)fortunately.

Gotcha.

GEN V VERSION

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Shit, meant fire/fighting. I'm hoping it turns out fire/dark. They haven't released the type of the evos yet, have they?

can i get a job at nintendo now?

Pretty fucked / 10

Also for the reason I came to the thread, what's with this no Gym thing with sun and MOOM, friend messaged me saying this makes it new and fresh now but I'd imagine it just replaced them with something that's the exact same but different name.

It is Fire/Dark!! user, It's based on a Heel. This means you can tell your friend to shove it. I forgot where I saw it, but it was official. SHIT.


Fucking hell, you probably can if you can make a blank slate and then just add random cosmetic changes to the fucking thing.

Hired fam

It's also a luchador, so it could still be fighting.

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Honestly, I'd prefer a middle ground garchomp, with the shape of gen 1 garchomp and the coloring of gen 4 garchomp to make it look appropriate for its typing.

Also, there's plenty of nicely-done stuff, like the vulpix and sandshrew line or eggsecutor.


Dammit, why is gf so obsessed with fire/fighting?
I'd have loved to have a feline answer to houndour and houndoom.

They wouldn't be retarded enough to release a fourth fire/fighting starter.

Please don't answer that

You just answered the same question, basically.
Shin Megami Tensei needs better writing
I fucking loved soul hackers
I wanna fuck the Apocalypse MC


It's Dark, user, I recommend you rub it in your friends face immediately. Then laugh at them harder when the game comes out.

Yeah I'd rather not rely on gramefreak doing something interesting with a starter only to end up ridiculed by friends who said it was just going to be another fire/fighting.

Alright, user, but I told you so.

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Yup, especially 4 and 4 final, most of the games could also try to not make every decision look obviously black or white.

Devil summoner translation never :^/

It's a dude so you're aware

What if shiny litten's palette was black/orange

sweet fuck

S T O P

It worked the first two times :^)

It had better writing, then Atlus decided to shit the bed in favour of waifufagging
OP is gay, big fucking surprise

Tetsuo Hara go back to bed

I agree, I'd like it to not feel so fucking linear for once, just hire better writers, maybe the ones from Super Paper Mario or FE, hell, even the same ones from the PSX era would do it more than enough justice.

There's so much shit I'm missing out on, I'm considering learning nip.

>It's a dude so you're aware
That's exactly why I wanna fuck him
He looks like a submissive faggot fuck that would bite his lips as he bounces on you, asking, "You like that?!~"

sage for off-topic.


Had. Had better writing, HAD.
H A D
Blame the Jewpenese.

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Every fucking time.
We need to kill furries already.

The head things bug me. Is it meant to be a hammer head shark? They have their eyes on the 'hammer'.

Still looks VERY good.


I'm starting to get sad, the right looks miles better than the bland official one.

why don't you ask nintendo to stop? oh right, you'll pay them 60 bucks for their next piece of shit.

I haven't given Pokemon any money since Heartgold/Soulsilver. Black(2)/White(2) were good, but not 40$ good.

Yes, that's what i said
They just woke up the gay, you always were one. Otherwise you would have played Digimon

Nigger you may overract a lil' bit

I don't care if Junji Ito is your secret identity, you still need to go to bed

I just added the head things back in since it just looked too dopey to me without it and Charizard also has head things anyway. I don't really like them either, the perspective on the one behind it's head always bugged me.


I was going for that.

Tried fiddling around with what that other guy started.

There's one for Vita with an chinglish translation, I wonder how good it is! I'm going to download it right now, then I'll pray the gay away., I'm actually bi, but enough about this I want to talk about Pokemon.


Wait, YOU did it!? That's awesome! Shit, I wonder what you can for Sylveon, Abomasnow or the ugly piece of shit that is Barbaracle, now I'm curious.

Now it just looks like a hairy, six-eyed spinarak.
I want to see where this goes

you cant just add thick black outlines to everything

Moar liek alolan spinarak, amirite?

FUCK
I forgot that I was supposed to add THIS to the OP.

bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:Altruis/List_of_Pokémon_by_their_designers

Now I want to delete this thread, but I'll wait it out for a few weeks, then make another.

oh but i can

and i can sell it to idiots for 60$ a pop every 2 years

you cant just add thick black outlines to everything

oh but i can

and i can sell it to idiots for 60$ a pop every 2 years

Uuuuh, thicker?

Lugia is perfect.

Just to be clear, I only added the eyes and headpieces back in.
Don't zoom into them or you'll see the mess.

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Gen 1 designs were simpler because the less powerful hardware forced them to be. Anything super detailed would either look like garbage or the detail wouldn't be visible at all.
Also notice how a lot of gen 1 pokemon share design aspects. Rhydon, lapras and nidoqueen have the exact same head.

cheeky fucker

More like this


please

Not only that, but it affected color schemes as well.
A pokemon would need to have two distinct colours to make use of the black and white palette, but at the same time any colours that were similar to eachother (such as blue and purple) would appear the same in the sprite.

Would actually redeem it then

Not big surprise

Well, it's ruined now.

Digimon?

Last 2 images are blatant shitty bait from a cherrypicking faggot.

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The first one can be argued but the second is literally pointing out a fact. It's not 100% accurate but there's no denying that gen 5 rehashed a lot of gen 1 designs and concepts.

THICKER

At least he kept the good ones.

The eyes are definitely better, but I still prefer the original for some reason.

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The part that really gets me pissed is calling Haxorus a fucking Dragonite rehash as well as for the fossils.

That's just one of the examples that make it shit.

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that picture fucking crashed my browser what the fuck

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nigger, your pic crashed my browser

I liked Unova, but I'm not defending ice cream Pokemon.

the image loaded fine for me
are you guys using Chrome?

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The guy you replied to was being sarcastic, the image he posted was neogaf inspired.

What if Lucario was proud of his power?

Too much time spent on this shit already.

Now its got the lines on its back again, and the tufts and stripes don't match. They should all be a similar colour for consistency, with only the eyes standing out.

I would have preferred a more tiger-like final evolution instead of a bipedal one but this is fine.

What were the last two pics?

Were they all done by Guoh?

I want the gays to leave

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female or fuck off

Yeah, you had to spoiler that because you're insecure in your beliefs. Gays get into the oven. Even more so if they're furries.

Pokémon is the chess of our time.

Durant by all accounts could basically be a gen 1 or 2 Pokemon.

Is this the thread where I ask

WHICH POKEMON WOULD YOU FUG?

Am I sensing a new hotpocket meme.

>I wanna fuck the Apocalypse MC
user no, do not stick your dick in crazy.

Why yes, I do. Although there's some overlap with shit designs and shit pokemon, to be honest.

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Conclusion: Ken Sugimori is overrated, Atsuko Nishida was the real hero of Gen1.

Now the real question is who designed Rattata?

fucking beautiful user, keep going.

I need to fap and sleep, I have work in the morning.

Would also cuddle.

Either way, I will await your return to do more shitty edits.

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more proof that progress isn't always a good thing

Easily the most generic and most animal-like. Its also the gen with the most fillers
When they began getting more creative, the designs themselves are still limited by the hardware, however
Easily some of the best Pokemon designs with possiblly the least filler of any gen. Creative enough to not be generic but also subtle enough to be believable
Designs more subtle than later gens but getting a bit more creative
When GF started outsourcing Pokemon designs, its shit, might as well be Digimon
Extremely forgettable
A return to form from Gen 3 with a lot more subtlty this time around. Quite possibly the best Pokemon designs in years

The problem with the parody image is the lack of round shapes.

wat

Please fuck off back to halfchan thanks

Oftentimes having to work with restrictions results in more creativity and effort being put into a product. Either way the designs were better, why/how they were that way is irrelevant to the topic

Don't entertain it. It's what he wants.

wew shill

Wut? Did you even look at the image in op?

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weeeeeeeeeeeww

Are we geing raided? Holy shit

Yes. The raid started sometime near the end of 2014 and hasn't stopped since.

kek


TOP KEK

Get out reddit.

You're probably more familiar with Reddit than I.

you're too obvious.

Yeah that's cool and all but does anyone wanna design some MS Paint Pokemon?

Somebody give me two objects and I'll make a pokeman

OK

Gecko
Kitchen knife

Gecookie evolves!

Oh fuck.

I'm drunk

FEED ME MORE

I like how this one imitated the original coloring/shading style too.

Where's the next gen porn?

I can fight it.
Taking down edgy wannabe-psycho kids and pounding them into pussified submissive scene boys is my fetish
Although I haven't executed that idea, I hope to someday, I'm tired of this stupid "he's so edgy, emo and CURAZEEEEE" stereotype I just want to fuck the shit out of them


I think emboar is fine, for the most part. I just wish he didn't
get ragged on for being yet another fire/fight type, I do understand the frustration though.


ABSOLUTE MADMAN

That's why I said majority user, not all. I fucking love my Darmanitan.
I agree as well, they needed to add some circles and simple shapes.


Cocaine
Elephant
Cocainelephant

You're pretty good.

Mouse.
Pneumatic hammer.

MOAR

Pig
Ice

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First image makes the complaint that newer pokemon are overdesigned pieces of shit.
Fourth image makes the complaint that newer pokemon are underdesigned pieces of shit.

Gen wars are as bad as console wars.

How does that mouse even resemble a fucking pneumatic hammer?
You could have at least gave him a building hardhat.
Don't be so fucking lazy lad.

What eyes?
Now to make the tufts on the legs the same colour as any other tuft for consistency and then change eyes around again since it looks too much like another Pokemon I can't remember the name of.
With now, I mean I probably won't.

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Newer Pokemon have less significant, naturalistic detail, and more cosmetic, deviant-art-tier detail.

Check the filename.

Pneumotic Moose.
I don't get it.

This one doesn't really work, the original had beady eyes and three smaller wings, the new one is just a purple and black King Ghidorah.

It feels better, honestly.
I agree to an extent, give it three batwings and we're set!

Still, in Gen 1 everything had those same angry eyes: Pincer, Kabutops, Aerodactyl, the beady eyes help it stand out from the rest.

I hate that Gamefreak doesn't do fur or feathers right anymore.

GIB ME MOAR POKEYMON TO DRAW

Are you the Lugiafag that tried on his mic at the FullDerp threads?
I will kick you 'ead it mate.

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something's wrong here

WAit no I figured it out

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fucking perfect

Joke's on you, I like King Ghidorah.
The gen1-style redesign just needs to ditch the hair/feathers and it would be golden.


I can see where you're coming from, and I can agree with you on the beady eyes.
The fur/feathers on hydreigon are terrible though, nigger needs a shave.

le rurrs

Yes.
Just go to a furfag imageboard and look for: guoh pokemon

How can anyone defend that thing? it looks like a chinese knockoff.

Cancer

You done did good user.


Not sure if retarded or intentional. I don't see how anyone can justify this design. Yeah I get it. He's a fighting type. The fires a cape. He's wearing clothes. He's still an over-designed piece of shit.

Why can't these 2 get more porn compared to Blaziken?

fixed

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Thanks for the pasta, friend.

I know what you are doing.

r8 my gen 5 poliwrath


you fucker.

Send in a portfolio to see if they actually hire you

What the hell was wrong with Gen IV?

Not sure if we are on the same page, but I meant the Gengar in the first image. A few tweaks and it will look a lot cooler.

im still mad that spiritomb isn't the pokemon n°444

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this piece of shit messed up the order of the last two

OKAY.

What's so special about 444.

4 in Japanese is "shi", which also means death.

444=DEATHDEATHDEATH

Damn. Thats cool.
I wonder what 5 means

that's not how it works, it's just coincidence that 4 and death are pronounced the same. In fact 4 can also be said yon, so it isn't correlated directly at all.

best spider

Best spider

Fuck. I was hoping Darmanitan was something special.

I'm so glad the furfags are going to drown idiots like you out in a few weeks.

A lot of gen 4 designs are shit user

The the ones you posted are exceptions

Also I love hoe people love Giratina's design desipite it being ultra edgy and overdesigned, it's a testament to how good a desigjn it is that people love it in spite of that

You just have shit tastes fuckboi
That's the only fact here.

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10/10 got me good

I was staring at that vulpix/alola comparison and i just understood why the new one looks so lifeless and fake
It has no shading
can someone competent shade it to make it more gen 1 like??

furfags just have a garbage tier fetish
would rather have their autism over retards

It's funny how these threads never take into account the evolved forms of Pokemon. Nearly EVERY Pokemon, Gen 1 to current year, has a cute form for their first evolution. Their second form is always more badass. This shit is so fucking retarded. Charmander is the essence of cutesy shit by simplifying the dinosaur form down to a round head with a stupid dumb smile, but you know what? It evolves into a great design. The same goes for Delphox, arguably my least favorite starter ever next to the fucking fire pig thing I can't remember the name of.

daily reminder genwunners are delusional rightwing goyim who are happy with less

Honestly, there's not many Pokemon from Gen I I even give a fuck about and my first game was Yellow before any retarded faggots accuse me of being a Hoennbabby.

Overall the majority of Pokemon I love are from II, III and V and I personally consider IV the real lowest point of unappealing shit the series has ever gotten for the fact that while Unova inevitably had its shit with so many introduced at a single time, it at least had plenty of mons to like as well.

I agree to an extent, Unova is my favorite region, while Kalos is my least favorite. I'm no genwunner, I'm just noticing a pattern in simpler (but more cosmetic) Pokémon design compared to the last.


I told you so, motherfucker. I TOLD YOU SO.

MY DICK!

Please kill yourself

ok

somewhat disappointed that a shiny alolan persian is not orange.

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Dropped.

Owl*

Ignore this, i'm just testing something