What is the anarcho-communist stance on traps?

Do you even know what the word means?

insidious

It's not gay to have sex with them– as long as they're cute.

tankies accuse everything they dislike of being bourgeois

Alternatively they're men trying to live to male perspective on female experience.

Both are traps, I got these images from >>>/trap/

You mean like a census? There is none, it's all personal opinion. They're allowed, I'll tell you that much.

Sex with trap = revolutionary act

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If you want fine. Gonna have to convince the community to give you the resources though

Perhaps they could be persuaded if you demonstrate what "services" they'd help you provide.

If it's cute, fuck it.

It's not mentally healthy. Besides they can't pull the act once they hit thier late 20s

this is a spook free zone

are you talking about people that started after their late 20s? Obviously they have a harder time passing considering they're fully done with puberty. If you start HRT when you're younger, you avoid a lot of that nonsense.

It's not a girl, it's a trap. Anyone who speaks of "traps" believes in gender roles.

Believing that clothes or hair have or should have a male or female quality to it is spooked as fuck and reactionary.

some clothes clearly are designed for male/female bodies though, like it or not

I agree with hair though

dont care

I think the "trap" quality comes from a subversion of expectation regarding physical genitalia rather than gender roles.

Reverse traps are better.

dosnt matter, would still fuck

It's weird, but doesn't conflict with my ideology.

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Traps are okay, its the same as wasting money/rescources on anything else that is no essential. As long as they recognize class is the fundamental struggle they we can get along. I worry though that they will be too spooked. If they think trans rights is the struggle of our generation then they can go to the gulag with the rest of the bourgeois.

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pics pls

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It's acceptable to want to fuck a trap.
The REAL perverts are the ones that want to BE traps.

No :^)

Besides, she's kinda sensitive about pics of herself being shared willy nilly. Maybe once she gets those much coveted stockings.

Technically she's trans, but whatevs

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Horribly meme'd

is she qt?

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Is "bourgeoisie" Holla Forums's version of de.generate?

Verily

No, but your understanding of it certainly is

are you implying gender is a social construct or some shit?

Hardly. It's just that when a person looks like a girl, biological functions like a girl, produces estrogen, and has the necessary physical traits, they are for all intents and purposes a girl, chromosomes not withstanding.

It's Holla Forums trying to fit in

tankies do it all the time too

Fugging degenerates. Not my comr8s

Fugging degenerates. Not my comr8s.

Literally the worst fetish

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But the expectation comes from a gender roles mentality.

That's because nazbols and tankies are the same thing

"Bourgeois" and "degenerate" appear similar on the surface, but bourgeois doesn't just mean "shit I don't like." For something to be bourgeois it has to demonstrably be a result of the bourgeois superstructure, and subsequently a part of maintaining the dominance of capital/bourgeois thought.

For example, homosexual marriage is sometimes considered a bourgeois goal because it's seeking to integrate homosexual individuals into the framework of the prevailing bourgeois union and all of which that entails. It doesn't seek to bring an end to the bourgeois practice of familial alliance and property consolidation, but to merely to expand it to a new portion of the population.

I don't think anyone using the word bourgeois here actually puts that much thought into it. More of a kneejerk reaction like "degenerate".

Oh fuck off. This is bourgeoisie that is bourgeoisie

The only thing that is bourgeoisie is people who have an enormous amount of capital. Many trans women, do not have that at all. In fact more than anyone they're likely to be murdered from any way to being killed in the street to being found out, hunted down, and killed in their own homes. Most of them are at most middle class like all of us are.

I'm also in university to be a psychiatrist, I can tell you there is nothing "bourgeoisie" about having gender dysphoric disorder you mong.

I swear the more nationalistic morons on here don't even know how to quantify what "bourgeoisie" actually is. What it actually means.

There are actually people here who know what they're talking about.

Don't know if you've actually met people from the middle class, but in one way or another, they're not very nice individuals.

What does this mean in regards to what I said. This has little to do with if someone is nice. Can you explain?

Yeah, people misuse terms here all the time, but if we know better we need to point it out.

It's all part of the dialectic :^)

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But what does that have to do with them being nice or not. I meant come from middle class backgrounds. I was making some generalized assumption most of us came from lower middle class to anywhere below upper.

But I don't get how that goes into whether someone is nice or not. Of course I know that. I grew up in LA.

When you conceptualize it like that, you can claim almost any change that isn't explicitly revolutionary to be bourgeois. Do you also believe that stopping police shootings is bourgeois because it takes the idea of a police force for granted? Or that Trots' transitional demands are bourgeois because most of them are in a social-democratic framework?

I've heard that one from tankies before.

Self perspective on class carries with it the form of its entire relationship.

The use of bourgeoisie in this context reflects that. If you're really studying for a psychiatry course, this wouldn't have been an oversight.

But please.

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Gonna play nazbol's advocate here (considering they're pretty much the devil) and admit he deserves one (1) good boy point for this post. Identity politics is the bourgeoisie's tool to divert discussion of economics.

Traps are fine. Nothing wrong here. Moving along now.

Bourgeoisie means those with an enormous amount of capital and what stems from that.

I don't really accept any other definition.

Having gender dysphoric disorder is not identity politics. It's having gender dysphoric disorder.

Autism rights is idpol these days despite being a neurological disease.

fuck off /pol
bourgeois means someone that extracts surplus value from the proletariat by means of private industry

What a fantastic psychiatrist you'll make.

that's a big ass dick. time to rub one out

First off not Holla Forums, second off that goes without saying. But I don't see how the definition connects with people with said disorder.

I mean, yeah? Medical professionals tend to be pretty concrete about things. It comes with the job.

It depends on how those demands are framed and what their ultimate goal is. In regards to police violence for example, BLM ostensibly wants to put a stop to police shootings but it's in the very bourgeois context of putting black people into positions of bourgeois power–city council seats and other governmental positions and the like.

Contrast that to Malcolm X's approach of opposing police violence against black people in terms of community organization and mobilization. I think the biggest material difference is trying to dissociate from the bourgeois power structure rather than integration with it.

How else do you get enormous amounts of capital without exploiting surplus value?

Look around you. How many multibillionaires do you see in the world that AREN'T exploiting the proletariat?

The fact of the matter is that having wealth gives you the ability to invest capital into gaining more wealth. It requires exploitation of surplus value somewhere down the line whether you like it or not.

the "fact of the matter" is that saying hurr durr it means rich people enables liberal retardation

Look man, I don't need to explain the entire definition of it, I just thought it was included with

I know what it means.

But what I don't know is why we're arguing.

Something's not adding up.

I'm sorry, I just get annoyed at the possibility of there being liberals here that will misunderstand it and pollute leftist circles with their nonsense

What are you even arguing for anymore?

Name me a wealthy family that did not exploit proles.

What about "by chance" wealth such as treasure hunters or those that got lucky with cryptocurrencies?

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Are reliant on capital that was already extracted from surplus value long ago. The fact that the wealth was buried in the seas or the sand is irrelevant as toward its origin.

Regardless, the money to be made in treasure hunting is vastly overstated by media. Many of the big treasure hunting firms end up getting sued by salty investors, not to mention the capital gains tax. Mel Fisher was forced to give up 1/4th of the Nuestra Señora to the state of Florida.

Do we consider stock/commodity traders to be proles?

Well stock traders trade extracted surplus value, but cryptocurrency is different since it is not surplus value, it is value in its entirety, the pay is equivalent to the labor performed.

I think you're misunderstanding where the disagreement over bourgeoisie is. You think that they're saying "not all those with enormous amounts of capital are bourgeoisie" but they're actually saying "some bourgeoisie have only moderate or small amounts of capital."

shig dig

this tbh

Can she give birth?
What about menstruate?
What about stop taking hormone pills?
Not trying to be a dick, but be realistic.

finding a massive amount of gold in a river

I'm a lefty trap

are you cute?!

pics pls

I believe in and support individual liberty, bodily autonomy and morphological freedom very strongly.

I don't agree with what they choose to do to their bodies, and I might find them unpleasant and uncomfortable to be around, but I support their right to do what they wish with their bodies.

I've heard scientific evidence supporting either side regarding trannies. I'm not sure if it's a good idea or helpful to them to let them begin to transition and shit without first correcting their diet, sleep, and exercise habits and seeing to any mental health problems they might have outside of gender dysphoria. I also think it's a terrible idea to do so at any age before their brain has finished fully developing.

I'm not going to claim to be a medical or psychiatric professional. I would hope that people who have to go to intensive school for years and years would have something conclusive regarding it and know better than I do about each case.

I'm just concerned that not doing aforementioned steps (diet, exercise, sleep, mental health, etc.) before them transitioning could lead to possibly preventable suffering as a result of regret or crazy hormonal shit or discrimination or something.

I also have concerns that the transgender phenomena has arisen out of an incredible rise in the use of plastics, artificial chemicals, pollution, pesticides, and hormones in meat that are just chock full of xenoestrogens and testosterone blockers and all sorts of other terrible things from our environment that cause an imbalance.

I think a lot of mental health issues (probably trannieism too) could be fixed by proper diet, exercise, sleep, philosophy/change in outlook, and avoidance of aforementioned terrible environmental things.

But I still believe in everyone's right to morphological freedom and bodily autonomy regardless, I just want people to exercise these rights intelligently and in a way that they don't end up regretting.

i've been quite critical of my looks lately so I suppose it's up for you to decide.

this will either confirm my suspicions or pleasantly surprise me.

power to the people.

lmao was only joking ur a fken fgt dude

sort ur life out

k

Gender is a spook, everything is permitted

lmao these tears

3D ones aren't my thing and harm none. So idgaf one way or the other.

so is turning down the brightness on your filter

No, just tankies' and nazballs' version of it. We're not a hivemind like storm/pol/.

yes, you seem very upset that i posted a picture.

an ugly picture of yourself and now your fucking REAMING with tears.

pathetic!

projection is very pathetic.

I think it's an interesting hobby. You seem very upset.

1st rule of trapping: keep your hands hidden

I'd still engage in a dialectical critique of gender roles with you tho*

wow we can't even agree on traps, this is a sad day I hoped would never come comr8s

our revolution is foiled again.

sage

Traps are disgusting tbh.
Let people do whatever they wish to be happy but it does erase that fact.

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Thank you for this gift.

memes are for all to enjoy lefty friendo

just jken fken retard

;_;

t. Sam Hyde

How the fuck is this bourgeoisie?

You're cute

bourgeious as fuck. ban it

kek

How the fuck is dressing in womens clothing a bourgeoisie concept? If you're claiming the concept of gender gender identity itself is bourgeoisie, why would you have a problem with people who transgress those boundaries? "Transgendered" may be horseshit, but "traps" and drag queens are an explicit rejection of gender identity.

Kek. I'm pretty fucking sure I've seen you on halfchan lgbt.

Little did I know you were a dirty commie…

you did.

what i have learned from this experience is that there are people that find me ugly and people who find me cute. however not once did i ever consider an individual from either group to not be a comrade.

Why do you say "commie", it sounds a bit annoying to me. Just as an insult it fails.

Lel.

It's pretty much a term of endearment here on leftypol. Don't get so butthurt.

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That's pretty much standard for all people tbh. Just be happy there are people who find you attractive in the first place.

In any case, I'd class anyone a comrade who realises the failings of capitalism and actively supports the progression and eventual introduction of socialism.

I'd suck your feminine dick trapanon

I wish everyone in the world was just really cute.

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Are you cute?

im a trap

please hold me

Having a neurologically observable deviation is bourgeoisie? Are you high?

How do I tell if someone is trap exactly? Any tips?

Ask?

Check for penis and testies.

please im very lonely and ill succ you as much as you want

it is saying that gender roles exist outside of capitalism
they seek to enslave the opposite sex by picking up their place in the system as an identity
trans rights take away human rights

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Most ancoms I know hate traps, because men dressing up as women is "transphobic" if they're not actually trans. Then again most ancoms I know are "intersectional" liberals who just use politics as an excuse to be attention seeking brats so ymmv.

What if the trap is a commie as well?

Most ancoms you know are retarded.

this guy gets it

hmmm…there's an "Anarcho Communist" board? Why the fuck is its about tarps? Old skool, don't get too poli on me.

here's a thought. "Do in Rome as the Romans" (we are talking about legal aged "traps" I assume). If so, I've no problems with "traps" but the timing is crucial. All people are people, should I choose to refuse, I deserve to be given an upfront answer as quickly as possible…giving me time to formulate a decision.

ha…you guys are kids or pretending to be kids (I just read some of the posts)…1) I believe, correct me if I'm wrong, this is an 18+ site, 2) Anarcho - (fill in the blank) should have no problem with "traps", aside from the fact that it is a VERY deceit filled act if not quickly admitted and 3) I entered this image bored to discuss philosophies, not tarps…only a very youthful person or a person of ill-intent would ever mix Anarch and "traps"…

good day

It really is a mental illness that should be treated with counseling but not encouraged. Either way, they are such an extreme minority that it is odd anyone gives a shit about them. Honestly it is just a fetish perpetuated by the most bourgeoisie industry on the planet, the pornography industry.

alright my dude, I am going to call bullshit. I don't want to be an ass but your "gf" does not biologically function like a girl. "She" does not have a uterus, "She" does not get a period, "She" still has a dick, which produces semen, "She" has testicles, etc. You are dating a man with Gender Dysphoria. Because I am not a liberal, I say that you should try to get him real psychological help.

Gender Dysphoria was classified as a mental illness up until the DSM-5 was published, where it got its own section. This doesn't mean that it should be encouraged for the patient to just go through with their impulses and try to act and look like the gender they identify with. All this means is that the extreme pressure from neoliberal sjws to move gender dysphoria from the "sexual disorders" section of the DSM-4 succeeded, and it was granted its own section without the perceived negative connotation of the word disorder. Also, let me say, real transgenders are extremely rare. A lot of this shit is just fetish shit being taken further and further by sex addicts and sexual deviants. I am sorry if I sound angry, it is just upsetting to see liberals have such a sway on actual science, to see them actually worsening the mental conditions of working class men and women who actually have mental problems, whether it be sex/pornography addiction or gender dysphoria.

btw I am not trying to samefag I just forgot my flag on my last post

and I give you my own response, I am not an anarcho- anything. Sorry man, just needed to vent that stuff. In an anarchist society I don't think anyone would give a shit about traps too much, although I don't know how they could contribute to the commune sufficiently or how they could get """"safe"""" srs surgery and hrt.

The same way I feel about people selling rotten poisonous meat in the guise of food.
In any just society it wouldn't exist.

Sounds like someone's mad they got surprised.

If they are cute they are cute but if too obvious it makes me feel uncomfortable but I dont mind.

Fuck off you spooky bastard, who doesn't want more chicks with dicks?

ssssshhh these naughty boys arent ready for our cuteness yet ;3

Communism confirmed for mental disease.

t. schizophrenic frogposter

gulag

mah nigga fellow lenin hat poster

your skin looks very smooth

I'm ok with it but it's a disorder if you need hormones to feel normal.And I wouldn't care that much if they wouldn't fuck with your brain an body and slowly drive you crazy to the point of no return.

There's really two ways to look at this. There's gender dysphoria, and there's questioning along what lines gender exists that people can't accept men wearing women's clothes without clubbing them to death more often.

There's more "psychosis" in the latter, and yet it occurs.

This is why people take estrogen and it's allowed in the dsm-v, not simply because of the fact that they "need" it, but simply because if they dressed outside of general norms and that was that they would be more likely to be brutalized.

And that's because there's a larger mental health problem in America.

I get what you are saying. But in no way is "she" really a she. When "She" has sex there is no threat of pregnancy. That makes a huge difference to both parties involved on a subconscious level.

Still we should have tranny gulags where we force transition all effete men.

don't remind me user

Rephrase your post man

There's a difference between sex and gender, names serve purpose but we also strive to categorize biologically in ways that effect greater problem.

Like I said before, trannies being seen as mentally ill when the majority of them being killed isn't a mental health issue.

I'm typing as if I were talking casually. What I meant to say is, that the violence against transgendered individuals is not seen as a mental health issue as much as being trasngender is.

Hol up.

Is violence a "mental" thing these days?

Killing someone is a symptom of something wrong, yes.

So we should hospitalize transphobic bigots? They might kill someone after all…

Better pump them full of tranquilizers until they beg to suck tranny cock to get out. That'll teach them.

No I'm saying that there is a broader problem with mental health care in America, and focusing the only topic of mental health on gender dysphoria is damning.

There are genuinely sick people out there who would want to murder a person over their clothes worn, and that brings up broader topics of our society and mental health.

EG What kinds of symptoms of mental illness is and is not permissible basically.

You're muddying the waters here. what you strawman as "violence" is in reality just a very broad and healthy disdain for mentally ill trannies. It is not something that should be "fixed" by drugging people.

You think actually killing trannies is permissible in society? Victim mentality much?

Transgendered people are more statistically likely to be murdered than other groups, basically. If Holla Forums would stop fearing for their entire race getting murdered, as murder is a negative, they would care about said statistics. Apes murder after all.

There's more dimension to this.

How we discuss transgender people is utterly simple and primitive.

One would think if violence against a demographic weren't, larger discussion about mental health would be discussed in such a way

And no I'm not transgendered. I just don't really know why you're arguing over something so simple and clear.

In what way? So you are saying that you think people accept murdering trannies? Let me guess what you tried to say: if murdering trannies for fun and profit weren't an acceptable hobby we would hear lots more discussion about the very specific problem of people going around murdering trannies (which happens all the time, I swear). So you're saying we should focus on murderers instead of trannies? So why can't we discuss trannies ITT anyway?

What is clear? I don't understand what you're saying.

No.

I'm saying that the mental health aspects of murdering people is being ignored for further focus on something comedic about mental health. This ignores the actuality of mental health problems in America, and indeed, seeks to ignore them by pretending mental illness is so identifiable.

It's not.

In fact most people who focus their lives on the internet are in some fashion mentally ill.

LGBTQ as a whole was a mistake. It is a waste of time and is alienating to the workers. All for what? Some bourgeois degenerates? Now the working class is falling to reactionaries because for the last 30-40 years they have been fucked constantly while the left coddles these faggots instead.

Every gay person is rich, third world maoists unite

Fags are almost always upper middle class privelaged white kids or liberal actors.

You either have enough time and money to stay at home all day or you're upper middle class.

The AIDS epidemic did not effect your mother or father, or you very much I don't think.

Do you have a source I can chew apart on this, anyways

thank you, i think it's because i eat a lot of cabbage and peppers.

:3

KIll them all, only biological womyn are real womyn. THis is hegemonic masculinity.

You'll never pass, take your pimozide you hegemonic masculinity nazi.

you are, in a word, "unrespectable".

also i don't care if i pass, i'm not ashamed of being trans.
although i do understand that some trans people feel the need to pass for fear of violence directed at them. currently i am not one of those people.

4chan's /lgbt/ would like to have a word with you

don't worry trapanon, you're welcome here

ur cute. and i don't even see the argument in this thread. lefty people who don't support LGBTQUIA? wot? is it a meme?

see'

yes, sometimes i do things to myself that go against my own principles. what can i say, beauty standards, sometimes i hate my body and so on.

i believe that the class struggle prevails over the LGBT struggle, as well as the feminist struggle. but i do read a lot of anarcha-feminist and queer anarchist stuff, and i think that to be a woman is in some dimensions, the most common way to be queer.

awesome i love it

you are, in another word, a "coward".

Holla Forums and Holla Forums are like, inseparable now aren't they

South Korea stop being that one asian guy who defends white nerds all his life

well…i mean, for me being lefty means believing in everyone having the right to a respectable and fair life, whether it's about having enough to provide for yourself and your family or being treated the same way of anyone else by anyone in your path. so i don't think there's something…prevailing

I'm 100% pro trap and trans because of who opposes them, got to stick it to the reactionaries and radical feminists whenever you can

You are severely delusional if you really think it's possible for stupid monkeys a.k.a humans to treat anyone else the same.

thank you, here is a pic of me saying hi to hillary clinton.

no i certainly agree. What I'm trying to say is, if the world was communist already, bigotry would be gone a whole lot faster.
I also think class discrimination is the most invisible form of discrimination, even within leftist circles. Not to mention class is often left out of intersectional feminist discourse.

a low opinion of human agency is the life-blood of the bourgeoisie

hahaha yeah maybe, but it is possible i think, it just takes…an enourmous amount of time. I wouldn't say we are on a completely wrong path given how it was in the past, although the road is still very, very long.

oh i'm a dipshit

No, it's saying that neurological sex can be incongruous with genetic sex. Gender roles are unimportant. Tgirls don't necessarily like doing dishes and picking flowers; they like being girls.

HEY that is not cool.

One of the few times I agree with Milo. Traps are gay.

well…communism tho is complicated….yeah bigotry would be gone because we would need to be perfect to implement communism in our society, perfectly honest about anything.
I like to see communism as something working amazingly in a world with robots, but, unfortunately, not in a world with humans. And that's not because i have a "low opinion of human agency" but just because I acknowledge that we are not perfect.
And while we can work towards a better society in regard of equality, we can't implement a system that has the better society we aim to reach as a requirement.
I agree on class discrimination being the most subtle of all but…that's improvable, and has already improved a lot from the past.

ok so they're saying something incoherent within their own philosophy– this simply can't be reconciled with the idea that gender is a socially constructed set of behaviors and performances.

wow, really cute :D in any case, i'm off to bed. gn all.

there are certain LGBT groups at universities in US and Europe that are considering excluding gay men; Milo makes me, if not agree, at least sympathize with those groups.

He's a bullshit machine, he's obsessed with fame and will do anything to get it.

Being ourselves is what makes dress and present ourselves the way we do. Being myself is why I felt like a 1 kiloton weight was lifted off my shoulders about a week into HRT. Gender as a social construct is why we call ourselves "trans women" or "trans men" or "androgynes". It is how we define ourselves in discussions of oppression and class struggle.

Yeah, I disagree with the idea that everything to do with gender is a social construct. The ideology trans people have had forced upon them by neoliberals has nothing to do with the fact of the matter, which is that there are scientifically verifiable transgender brains, and more specifically, that the key areas in the brain that differ in trans people have to do with sex response and the like, i.e. The parts of the brain that literally force one to think "I am male" or "I am female", which in such cases usually manifests in the idea that one's body is not suited to one's identity and, more optionally, that one would like to change it physically to suit their identity.

Gender roles, on the other hand, are just extra fluff nonsense that people think men and women should do, rather than having anything to do with what they are.

Qt!

Wait!
Someone blatantly plagiarised our character and turned her into a trap?

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Holla Forums has become the new Holla Forums
It is now at 190m sessions

youre mentally ill

If this is accurate it explains so much

I remember Holla Forums laughed at Trump initially. They were all supporting Rand Paul until the stormfags started raiding

identity politics

bump for cute traps

I was a commie trap. Eventually got SRS and went stealth, and now I'm just a commie girl.

Hey! I remember you from /lgbt/. HRT has done a lot for your face. You looked kind of androgynous last I saw you, but now you just look like a relatively normal girl.

Do you ever feel like /lgbt/ is halfchan's Holla Forums outpost? I swear I see more commies there than on any other board. I think we even had a thread there about it just a few days ago.

Someone started a thread to call us out, yeah. Actually, maybe this lends some credit to your theory, but I started visiting /legbutts/ again because it's less SJW than most other LGBT sites at this point.

A trans Nazbol? Interesting

Is this you?
boards.4chan.org/lgbt/thread/7335694#p7341680

Yup!

Lol, I'm boards.4chan.org/lgbt/thread/7335694#p7342353

Good to know that we have some crossposters.

I mostly borrow a lot from the ideology for my country, which has been characteristically been decent about trannies for a long time.

Oh hi! Yeah, I'm not the NBF type, so I just hope I don't seem like too much of a contradiction.

What country? I'm from Germany, and I have to say that I have a lot of admiration for this place and it's people, even with some of it's faults. I'd actually even looked into nationalist ideology before, but I could never really bring myself to get into it, mainly because I have a lot of friends from different cultures/countries.

Iran?

pan-nationalism can span multiple countries. Usually culturally compatible ones.

I live in Canada. I grew up long before Harper and before the current liberal government, and we used to have a much stronger socialist strain in our country, so we've never been that bad about LGBT people, and I think there's a lot worthy of preservation here. The liberal government has been worryingly generous with accepting waves of immigrants indiscriminately, and I just don't think that's a good idea for our working class because rather than being spread out, they'll all be shoved into working class areas and radically throw off the culture of my country.

I know, but the friends in question are from Mexico and Egypt, two countries which I wouldn't exactly call culturally close to Germany. I don't really know how to reconcile the fact that I think Germany is awesome, but I also think those two friends are awesome, so I just avoid it altogether and talk about how I "love my country" instead of using exclusionary terms like "nationalism".

If that doesn't make sense, well, it doesn't necessarily make sense to me either. I'm conflicted I guess.

My mom is from there! It's a pretty nice place. I have to say though, Germany literally invented trannies, so that's a one up I have on you guys :P

While I don't think mass immigration is all that great, I can also understand why so many people would want to immigrate. Most of the places they come from are total shitholes, and often are that way because of Western military interventions/capitalism. As a result, it's kind of hard for me to see immigrants as anything other than potential comrades.

Admittedly, it's a difficult stance for me and I'm still not 100% certain about the answer to it, but maybe this explanation will help. I'm not against immigration in general, but I think it's the flooding that bothers me, especially rich countries with similar cultures to these immigrants have accepted none of them at all. I know the West is responsible in destroying the fragile balance of a lot of these places, but that was not the country I grew up in, at least not entirely. We were peace keepers at one point, assistance, you might call it, but not gung ho warriors. That wasn't until Harper (you could maybe argue Paul Martin too). Basically, I think we should continue accepting immigrants, but I think we should take a firm stance on Canadian values and try to stamp out toxic elements of foreign culture, like the oppression of women and tribal distrust of outsiders that comes with Islam. That is to say, they can stay if they wish, but no such nonsense should be tolerated. We have a superior culture here, and I don't want to see its continued degradation. Liberals were bad enough.

Also, where's your mum live? I've been around a bit, so I guess I'm just curious.

I 100% agree. Whenever I see a burka or hijab, I immediately get pissed off and wish that the government was doing something against this intolerant practice that many women are forced into by their family. However, not all immigrants are so intolerant, and few are anything more than passively supportive of such religious practices. My Egyptian friend, for instance, is a staunch Atheist and can't stand anything like that. It's one of the reasons she's glad that she could move here.

Honestly, I don't know too much about Canada's religious culture, but I know that right wing Christians can be just as bad as muslims in terms of toxicity. In my opinion, western governments should be going after both foreign and domestic religious bigotry.

My mom was originally from Edmonton. When she was in college, she met my dad while studying abroad in Germany, and as a result, she never left. That's why I'm here. Nowadays, she lives in Hamburg with my dad.

There's definitely a Christian strain here, but in most of Canada, people are and have been pretty secular for a long time. They've been acting up a bit since Harper, but the feeling is generally still the same. Secularism is the type of thing I'd like to promote, though, because it's been a big sentiment in this country. In other words, I'd rather abolish religion than keep any of it, and I concede that the Christian element here is no good. But yeah, I'm fine with immigration; I just want it to be small and steady, so it can be balanced and assimilated.

I realize I may sound like just an average commie, maybe minus the not-so-open borders part, but it's hard to convey why I think this label is appropriate without first understanding that Canada already had a lot of what I would love to see in a communist society, but it's been sacrificed more and more to capital liberalism. Like, we'be been moving farther and farther away from secularism and our socialist spirit and closer to a schizophrenic religious state with capitalist aspirations and it sickens me. I just want a return to form.

that's hot and all (No, seriously, you're really cute) but you shouldn't let your girliness get tangled into stereotypes about femininity. You still need to learn how to use a gun be somewhat /fit/ (doesn't mean you need to lose your feminine curves and become a butch lesbian but you need the stamina) to be a proper comrade and not a cumdump.

well said.

where can I find a cute trap gf?

Traps is taking the means of production and using it for yourself so it is real communism.

Why are women so cute?

The being killed guy in that video is my friend's cousin.
It's so weird to see it.

Thank you for the compliments!
Yes I'm already buying a gun in tandem with my friend (who happens to be a trans man). I often confuse my friends with my lack of care about gender roles, but they don't matter when it comes to revolution.

Traps are normal people and they deserve respect as long as Idpol is not used to grant special status. People who bully traps are faggots who can't admit they can be qt's/are completely harmless and often have higher autism levels than the average straight white man does