What will happen to anime after the revolution?

What will happen to anime after the revolution?

It'll have better plots.

"plots"

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Anime won't exist in communism. Manga and comics though, those will explode.

If people can't work together to make a fucking anime what makes you think that they can achieve communism in the first place? You're being too dismissive. Even though it's a hard job, people definitely want to learn to be animators nowadays. If everyone was just in it for the money we'd be living in a world solely populated by STEM autists and wannabe investors.

It'll exist, it will just be released on a far slower time schedule. Also you'll probably see less show format and more movie/short format, as the former is usually only needed for better commercialization when shown on TV.

I honestly can't see as many people making anime that's pure fanservice anymore.
I know people like that shit, but I'll happily say good riddance to it.

Anime is getting cheaper to make every year. I wouldn't be surprised if people can contribute to a work on the fly just because. The future of work is de-centralized. People will go from project to project, just contributing a little here and there. The only people that need to stay for the duration are voice actors ( and software will do that too), and directors. Honestly, things are going to be fucking great.

Are you kidding? The internet loves porn. If anything, it will become even more pornographic.

Somehow I doubt it.
Maybe I just don't know as many artist who are willing to dedicate vast amounts of their time to that.

Let me tell you about a man name Shad.

Everything will be OVAs and it'll be cool as fuck.

As I understand it, anime is only able to exist as it does because animators are ridiculously over worked and underpaid. The obsessive directors might be able to do what they wish without market demands, but that says nothing for the hundreds of other workers who are currently made to actually do the work of those projects. It will be very different.

there are an extremely large amount of people who animate porn

But that's only because they seek profit. Most animators want to do the job. They aren't doing it because they're desperate. It could be said they stick with their job even though it doesn't pay because they love it so much. Imagine a world in which they could work as they wished with no pressure to make money.

It will perish in the revolutionary holocaust.

Well there'll be less miserable artists and probably a bit less pandering

Purged

Well then their team might very well vote to fire them.

Who is this semen demon?

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Hopefully it will cease to exist because with some propper education programs teaching critical thinking skills, future generations will be very sophisticated and highly cultured, thus they will find anime idiotic.

That's where I remember seeing her from, thanks comrade.

very good analysis

Imagine a world where they can quit whenever they want because starving isn't forcing them to be there. You're an idiot who doesn't understand Japan doesn't have an abundance of great paying jobs to quit to. If you're going to.work.for.shit, might as well work what you can enjoy a bit. Animators will do a lot, but group.projects of mass scale will not be found much because of this.

Yeah, go ahead and fire the guy who is the soul of the project to begin with. It's like firing Mozart because he's an asshole and some other no name can write your world class music right? Just fire Video Kojima. Just fire Miyazaki.

This is how mediocrity and soulless shit ends up being made. ALL world.class artists are fucking insufferable assholes and get away with it because they're the soul of their works, not the workers that help make it become reality. There are a ton of writers, a ton of actors, a ton of directors, but there is inky that one person who has the pure vision that will make something mediocre a masterpiece with their touch. Yeah, just fire that person ;)

Fucking autocorrect.

Fan-made anime already exists. There isn't more of it because it's expensive to make. 3d animation is definitely a trend, and it looks increasingly more like 2d of the past. Remember that communism is high tech society. Anime will exist in one way or another.

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It gets banned hopefully

Well, in Video's case I don't think anything would change that much cause he gave up giving a shit about the series about a decade ago. Using Metal Gear as an example there will be new games and you'll still play them, you'll bitch about how the magic is gone now that le Jap Video-man is gone but its likely cause you're not 14 anymore, the series isn't as groundbreaking as it was in the 90s and early 2000s and you're aware of the bourgeois ideology within it.

Producing art in a capitalist society is more of a collective effort then we're lead to believe. But despite this there's always that one person that is always heralded as the visionary, this ideological position is so pervasive that if there wasn't one one would have to be invented. The thing about this visionary person is their usually the one who walks away with all the money after the corporations are done siphoning off the profit from the work. So no wonder their assholes!

Most successful CEOs are also assholes–at least while their on the job.

But let's take the examples you've raised: Hideo, Miyazaki, Mozart. How many world class game designers, artists, directors, musicians, programmers, techies etc. did they work with? How many great rival artists and producers in their fields did they work know, were friends with, were familiar with etc? Isn't it also true while someone like Miyazaki or Mozart was receiving their education that chances are some equally bright was working in a mine, a factory, waiting tables etc. just trying to survive?

Meanwhile, isn't it also the case that many of the world-class artists and techies etc. with often disappear into relative obscurity and even poverty? Where would their vision be without someone to help hone their craft, polish the rough edges and generally make their lives easier?

Everyone in the industry knows that who you know, who you're fucking and how much money you have plays at least as big of a role in whether you make it as skills, talent, "vision" etc. Of necessity, since most of humanity lives in poverty and away from the centers of cultural production, the number of artistic geniuses is a relatively small number of people. In the bourgeois way of thinking about art they are always demigods, master-craftsmen and their warts never seem to diminish their appeal. Which you express here:


To me this is pure mysticism. Even if 1 in 50 couldn't write a decent play to save their lives where do you draw the line? 1 in 1000, 1 in 10,000, 1 in 1,000,0000? If that's the case then CEOs truly deserve every penny they make because only a "true visionary" can run a successful company. I don't think there's anything magical about these mental traits whether we're talking about success in art or business.

When want is removed from the equation and the general cultural and educational level of humanity also rises, I expect such artistic "geniuses" to become more in more common.

Communism will have brain imaging tech that will make any artist of today jobless. Imagination will be external as easily as it is internal. The true visionaries won't even need the nobodies anymore for their craft. A true society of elites as Nietzsche wanted.

That actually sounds really awesome. Now I'm sad that communism isn't here yet.

There is the 'visionary' and then there is the VISIONARY. I'm talking world historical artists, not Miley Cyrus. Miyazaki and Video were just off the cuff names, I don't consider them artists.

Mozarts get to be assholes because they are the ones people want to hear the work of, the ones that concretize a universal moment in their historical art. These people do not compromise their visions and are insufferable precisely because they consider their work as true and serious, they are the convinced idealist with a message and they know exactly his they want to show it. Time's short? Too bad, work unpaid overtime. You think this is good enough? Good isn't good enough, it.niat be perfect to a T.

These people are 'my way or the highway', and I prefer it fucking stay that way because a compromised Artistic vision is garbage.

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Mozart wouldn't need anyone to write music today. He could even have it performed for him without any other people involved.

Beethoven is superior in his divinity.

Son, indeed someone had to do it, and it is specifically they who did it. You don't just fire a genius because someone else will hopefully have has just the same.perfect.experience to intuit the moment of.genius and you'll wait around for them not to be a hardass. You'll be long dead before some.of these assholes are.repeated if they ever are. Geniuses and special snowflake artists aren't simply.products of their time, the individual has to be gifted with the moment of intuition. There a reason we don't have a way to 'make geniuses', half of the moment is something we have no clue about. Unique individual, unique circumstances.

What I find funny is you seem to be open to questioning capitalism which encourages bosses to take this approach to extract profit from workers but aren't willing to question if this is the best way to organize art, artistic workers must be crushed under the boot of porky apparently if that porky happens to be a "genius". The artistic sphere is truly the last defense of meritocratic ideology.

The romance around "the starving artist" or the visionary who would cut his own mother's throat has always been a con to sucker cultural workers into working without pay, benefits, overtime etc. It's always a catch-22 isn't it? If you really wanted it you'd be willing to work for free to get it or for less pay, as you graciously made that point of the ideology clear, but if you were any good at it you'd be getting paid, or at the very least not "selling yourself short"!

In many ways, you might say the world of cultural production is more brutal then the boardroom and the factory floor with maybe even less chance to advance despite its shining lights.

Art is a business and throughout most of its history it has served one class or another. Even the great geniuses are serving one class or another or torn in their loyalties. It's intimately social, and while a lot of popular schlock gets pushed aside, its no coincidence that many of the artists who last were commercially successful and hence they spoke to their time and the society around them in a major way. You really think the the great artists never compromised their "pure vision" or their "ideals" to survive in the rude and brutal world of business or patronage?

It's already compromised and we're taught by bourgeois society which artists we should respect as the true geniuses.

I don't see why we shouldn't try to organize art production to be more social, democratic and to serve the needs of the new society in post-capitalist world.

Seeing how we have 7 billion people in the world I'd be willing to reckon there are a few geniuses among them who aren't complete assholes and could deal fairly with other artistic workers. I see no merit in keeping "the genius" around as basically the archetype of the coke-fueled 80s board-room executive who knows how to get things done transposed into the context of cultural production.

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You misunderstand my positions. I'm not anti-capital. In fact I've come around on it because of Levine's critique of Marx's logic. Capital has a place in the social world, communism will not destroy it, it will incorporate it fully and pit it in it's proper.place: luxury production.

Capital is not a system for meeting natural needs, it is a system for meeting luxury needs by enslaving every person to the one next to them. They who draw the dollar call the shots, and all have and need the dollar to keep the cycle of enslavement going such that nine can escape producing for someone else directly.or indirectly. In the old days it was the aristocrat, the church, or the renaissance bourg which gave the artist the means of tools and assistance. Today no one gives a ahit, so we instead get pieces ofshit.like Banksy. In the USSR it was the commissar of culture that enabled the artist (for propaganda rather than art).

I recognize that luxury exists because of a mechanism of coercion on society as a whole. This idea that art is this great collective.work of.love is only true for what individuals can muster, but not for great social productions which require heavy resources, timely delivery, and suffering the assholes who do (and should) call the shots regardless of your feelings.

Great shit in the world does not get done when people can just quit. Mass.luxury does not get made when people do not have to be forced to produce for.others what they themselves.don't care for. The social artist is never free, they are at the mercy of others. What they have is their unique mind and connections of money, politics, or lucky fame to.leverage their visionary productions.

I want my luxury, you cavemen can go.to hell.

This is why I don't post from my phone, fucking autocorrect is garbage.

There's things i don't like which i can still respect. Anime is not of those.
Anime offers absolutely nothing to the viewer. It's completely empty. Silly escapism for braindead people.
Also weaboos are sick people. They are completely addicted to anime and simply can not talk about anything else. It's like a drug and they just waste their time away watching that garbage, soap opera tier.

Unless you can convince there are animes out there with compeling stories, awesome character development etc. etc.

There'll be a guillotine set aside for you, A.W.

you shouldn't post at all

It will be made for purely creative purposes instead of meeting dwlindling profit margins which is good but there will be less moeshit which is bad for me because I like muh moeshit

but it's a worthwhile price to pay for a fairer industry

Hey lads, nice argument ;)

This is why I consider all of you garbage no better than Holla Forums when it comes.to your intellect. Literally feels > reals.

I've got to finish my Marxism blogs stuck in the pipeline. Oldfags here know I was (still am) an ardent proponent of Marxism and the theory of capital. It's just that by grace of luck I finally found a proper critique of Marx that finally convinced me he was wrong in a way that derailed the validity of his conclusions. Who knew that it would be a Hegelian nobody has heard of who only wanted to correct and expand what Marx could not finish?

Idealist af.