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Don't give a fuck

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jesus christ the ideology of those pics

They're cartoons denouncing liberal hypocrecy
I like them

I like holding onto them, good way to show centrists what moderates thought of people like MLK way back when

DemSoc is acceptable, Socdem is just lazy.

Hillary isn't even center left you fuckwit.

I'm ok with social democracy and reformism in the first world.

However in countries where people starve or work 12 hours a day a revolution is needed NOW.

I'm with you.

also I voted Trump.

>>>/liberalpol/

ayy lmao?

I really love this picture

I really love Christ-Chan

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_to_moderation

hell of a lot better for it than Hillary. I voted Bernie in the primary

I pray you aren't stupid enough to believe these illustrations of liberals.

There is no center.

Should've voted for jilly tbh

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I don't mean to be the "muh Third world" guy but if revolution did happen in theThird World it would probably put heavy pressure on capitalists in the First World and make the class collaboration necessary for reformism untenable. Just saying.

Good

You're the worst. Instead of overcoming the nostalgia for 20th century style revolutions you've regressed to centrist economics.

That's fine with me, I just don't know why anyone would recommend "revolution in the 3d world, reformism in the first" if the former is going to lead to revolution or outright fascism in the latter anyway.

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The difference is that Porky actually deserves it.

lefty/pol/ take note, this is how you be smarter than both sides

he is also a train hopper.

oh hi rebel

I agree, being able to exercise your constitutional right to vote, and elect the most suitable candidate for your interests is a muh privilege your ancestors didn't have centuries ago.

How are you any different to stormfags posting hehehehe jews? Both are caricatures and generalizations of vast swathes of people justified by sheer ideology.

are you retarded?

Can you front a real argument? No? Then we have nothing further to discuss. Begone with you.

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I don't want to kill porky out of any love of violence for violence's sake; in an ideal world, porky would submit without a fight.

But the system which leaves a few with more wealth than they could ever use, and billions of people scraping desperately and selling their labor to survive (or worse, failing outright and dying of poverty) must change; if we rounded up and shot every porky in the world we'd struggle to even approach its death toll.

And such a change may sadly, at some point, require the use of violence.

DemSocks here.
I don't have very much faith in violent revolution, but really, I haven't since I was a teen. At least here in Canada and the US, violence pretty much always makes everything worse, and the notion of socialism only seems to have become a household item again because we've been working within the system. Sure, it's a laborious and irritating process, but people don't listen to violence anymore; there isn't enough motivation for it and the hordes of rioters recently have only made the situation worse.

fuck that shit, these pieces of shit will suffer painfully and slowly for what they've done.

that isn't propaganda in any way you fucking retard, those are political cartoons that represented the political attitudes of the time that shows the moderate/liberal stance on social issues. To the fucking wall with you.

Can you get any more ideology if you tried?

Saved

make them work a menial job for less reward than they deserve for the rest of their life

pick one

idk if reformism can be successful but I find the glorification of violence and revolution on here a bit disconcerting sometimes

Who /centrist Marxist/ here?

Military spending is crude Keynesianism
Every Republican jacks up the deficit aka Keynesianism

Meanwhile, Communists killed 2.5 times more people than Nazis.

It's okay though, because Communists have good intentions ;)

a shame you or your parents weren't among the dead

If anything I've learned this past year is you "moderates" are the most insidious and ferocious defenders of Capital there is.

Well im more like soc dem and waiting for a better socialist theory and for technology to make planned economy more viable.

Same here m8

Left Forum hosts Dr Paul Cockshott on Cybersocialism
youtube.com/watch?v=LtlZys7QOO4

how does being a centrist mean you dont hold serious convictions or beliefs? not a very good strawman comment tbqh.

Paul Cockshott wrote a book on this.

ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/socialism_book/new_socialism.pdf

I have a few questions…

First one - what are your views on the Overton window?

Follow up question… Do you believe capitalism can carry on indefinitely and if so, how do you think socdem or "middle ground" policies will solve any potential problems that may arise? (Eg. Widespread automation of labour)

Final question - do you believe that centre ground policies exist in their own right or that they're just an amalgamation of the most "sensible" left-wing and right-wing policies?

i was just about to say that

This reeks of COINTELPRO or just plain 'ol shilling/bait.
Liberals are not welcome here. Go to >>>/liberalpol/ or >>>/politics/ to jerk off over the exploitation of proles you shit-eating, masochistic bastards.

or alternatively you should read a book or lurk moar.