The ongoing leftist presence on 4/pol/

Thread for discussion pertaining to the leftist presence on 4/pol/ that has been present for the past week. Their safe space/echochamber has been completely fucked over the past week and they are furious about it. The current general at the time of posting this can be found on 4/pol/ @ boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101045088 .

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please no. there was a 12 hour raid yesterday because of this. this board doesn't have the moderation staff required to deal with the blowback

They're all confused and most think it's reddit. This is simply a thread to discuss the ongoing leftist presence on 4/pol/ and to raise awareness that it exists.

well they blamed us yesterday when they were shitting all over the board. i just hope it doesn't happen again

Yeah, it's a problem for now, but in the they will be the ones who convert. The free market of ideas is dominated by capitalists and as soon as leftists take part in the free market, they seize to be leftists, because leftism is weeded out rigorously with logic, reason and evidence. The more the merrier.

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and here we have our first tourist

It's sort of like a Safari. Confused animals and easy targets everywhere.

Except its not and its why it survived a century of peer review while right wing nationalism hasn't.

There is no such thing as the invisible hand of the market, it simply does not exist.

Most of us started out as capitalists dumbass. Then we noticed the contradictions, then eventually found the alternative….==GULAGS==

If you defend capitalism it must be because you own an enterprise in which all you do is manipulate money and extort workers surplus value, then it makes sense. But if you are a worker you can fuck right off, even if you are a well paid worker such as an engineer you are being ripped off.

I am sure you did. And you started noticing that you are inadequate, obsolete and selected by nature for extinctions. That's when it dawned on you that you are a leftist who wants to overthrow the capitalist system.

If you're going to pretend your college educated do not say the sentence "And you started noticing that you are inadequate, obsolete and selected by nature for extinctions"

Holla Forumsacks are essentially a collective hive-lolcat.

We're not the ones who want to ban niggers and mooslums because white girls aren't willing to fuck us.

God damn

Actually it's when I figured out property.

Most don't realize this but there is actually a significant minority of leftists on 4/pol/. You really don't need to 'zerg rush' them to create a presence of leftists, you just have to create threads for leftist discussion and some will come out of the woodwork.

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I made a bunch of shitposting marxist threads back in september

I've been stoking flames there for years myself.

I don't think it's a bad idea tbh. If we're subtle about it we can probably play a long game and win. I do it on 8/pol/ every time my ban wears out too, and I usually last a while making sneaky posts until they ban me for something

They're a bunch of brainwashed retards, literally so cucked by cold war FBI propaganda

Relentless challenging of their nationalist doctrine and denial of their echochamber status is a good thing for us to pursue. It's one of the few things that we can actually accomplish at the moment with our low organization and loose unity.

Just don't make them come here and it should okay

Stormfront is a fucking goldmine for retardation

I frankly rather have that board stay as it is

Not just because I don't want them to start invading other boards, but because it's sort of a relic. If they won't rant about niggers and Jews, who will?

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101072191
boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101073774
here's some

When you hijack a board and then accuse others of trying to hijack it

Godammit stop posting Stalin in the OP

It'd intellectually dishonest to call you a fedora tipping neckbeard, but I really want to.

Yeah i'm getting pretty close to advocating raids and getting even outside influences like TRS to help us. If this is what you faggots want we can go this way.

I was browsing 4pol for over a year before I found leftypol. I couldn't fucking stand reddit so in terms of unfiltered political discussion, 4pol was pretty much the only place I knew of. I'd imagine there's quite a few more like me.

I have no idea why polacks think that anyone who hates the faggotry that is reddit must be a right-wing nationalist.

New thread
boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101078770

This amuses me.
Let them raid, they'll give up eventually - as long as we don't shit post on Holla Forums they'll get bored.

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boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101084046

You're joking, right? It's an ecosystem more than anything. You can't use the term "meme" without understanding that. The dominant selective pressures are seldom towards rigorous reasoning and objective truth.

Look at all the spam were getting, faggots are triggered as fuck

Lurk more and read more

the ideological supermarket, like any other supermarket, is only fit for looting

Keep em coming

just leave me alone I go to Holla Forums to talk about the death of the white race and I come here to talk about the death of capitalism

just me alone please there's no need to mix my prowhite corner of the internet with my anticapitalist one…

I'm not doing any raiding tbh

So..our goal is to turn Holla Forums Red?
H..How is that possible?!

What's the point of having a Holla Forums view of race if you know that capitalism is the source of whatever "white-genocide" refers to?

THIS IS NOW A SPURDO THREAD
HAIL GOMMUNISM AND SDALIN :DDD

It isn't, but keep trying cucks

They will fall eventually

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Is that you Varg?

I'd be happy if Holla Forums became about politics again, instead of alt right feels central

You are pathetic. You can't stand the pressence of people who don't agree with you, despite the fact that you don't have to engage them. You yell "Holla Forums raid REEEE" for one active general and a lefty shitpost thread, while the rest of Holla Forums is full of the usual Holla Forums threads.

Just go there, talk about "the death of the white race" and stop whining. No one is taking away your precious threads.

This board is hilarious, Nazi snowniggers larping as pagans and declaring everyone non-white is nothing compared to this.

Why the fuck is our only major propaganda effort on a site that is actively hostile to us?

We should be trying to educate normies on instagram or trying to foster anti-capitalist sentiment on consumer forums, not wasting our time trying to de-spook nazis.

I'm surprised Holla Forums didn't start using the redguard meme after Holla Forums took over

disgusting

Raiding, obviously

Defending the fatherland


A leftism general isn't going to disrupt Holla Forums's normal operations


1. it's not
2. daily reminder pic related

OPs thread was closed when I tried to comment. Did it reach halfchan's bump limit or did it trigger the mods? Whats going on over there?

DAILY REMINDER THAT NORDS ARE THE NIGGERS OF ELDER SCROLLS

Does getting hostile response upsets you? You have to work harder, you can't give up fighting against those nazi spooks. Try to copy-paste your arguements faster, before they spam your thread with shitposts and images of dead trai.. I mean martyrs of your movement :^)

Anyone want to come help?
boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101086126

I'm on multiple front now, famrade

Is this a troll? You can't be a racialist and a leftist

For reasons that are uknown to me, I can't post to any halfchan board, despite not being banned myself.

Here are some pics for shitposting and regular posting, and an interesting imgur post for the Holocaust

imgur.com/a/725A7

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Thanks I was looking for that second one

Could you get the venezuela gif under 2MB for halfchanposting?

sounds like someone's in need of a good de-spooking

Keep this bumped for salt potential:
boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101102161

We need to spam more propaganda pictures. Can you comrades post itt what you have?

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“Ah…finally a moment to rest!” Pavita sighed quite contently as she stepped through the front doors of the rather lavish hotel, having just arrived in America in the past few hours; Florida to be exact. After having been purchased by an Escort service, the busty Cuban turkey was granted an all-inclusive trip to the states to begin her new job, though as a courtesy, the service had paid for a week’s stay at a very high-class hotel.

With an inviting smile, the buxom turkey stepped up to the front desk, gazing down at the rather pale-faced clerk, who had been watching her most prominent features bouncing and jiggling with every step along the way. “Good day, senor~! Pavita was told that there was a room reserved for her?” she cooed in that sweet Cuban accent of hers, watching as the now very nervous clerk reached into a little drawer beneath the counter, pulling out a small card and shakily handing it to the turkey.

“Ooh, gracias~!” she chirped, taking that card and heading over to the elevators. Once inside, she swiped her card along the little terminal, which beeped a couple times before the elevator started moving, swiftly heading all the way up to the top floor. The doors opened right into the quite spacious penthouse, and waiting just a few feet in front of those doors was what seemed to be a butler, of sorts.

“Greetings, miss Pavita.” his voice sounded out, though Pavita only tilted her head slightly with a bit of a confused look, wondering why this butler’s head seemed to be completely green, with a large question mark right down the middle of his face, which seemed to be featureless, save for a mouth and a bit of a nose-shaped lump. Not wanting to be rude however, she smiled once more as he continued to speak, “May I be of service to you, today?”

“Ah…Pavita has never had a butler before!” the busty avian giggled softly, stepping out of the elevator now and up to that seemingly green-skinned butler, who grinned in return, though mostly due to having those huge feathery breasts jiggling rather close to his face; even half-covered by the turkey’s dress, they were still quite a delicious sight! “Pavita supposes you could fetch her something to eat…if that’s not too much trouble?”

The turkey’s words made that anonymous butler smirk just a little, “Something to eat? Well, coincidentally that is already taken care of, Miss Pavita.” he motioned for the turkey to follow him as he stepped into one of the side rooms of the large penthouse, holding an arm out towards the opposite wall as Pavita stepped in and took a look, both of her eyes widening quite a bit!

“Ooh, wow…” she softly spoke, gazing left and right at what appeared to be quite a massive spread of food, looking as if two or three separate catering services had set up across the various tables and shelves. She quickly noticed that just about all of the food was American, everything from hamburgers to apple pies to pizza, takeout Chinese food and Taco Bell.

“The host wanted to give you a bit of a warm welcome to America, and what better way than to gift you the finest American cuisine?” the user continued, stepping further into the room and turning back to the buxom turkey, “Go ahead, you may start wherever you wish.”

Pavita gently licked her beak as her stomach gave another hungry gurgle, the sights and smells of all of the food in front of her only serving to increase her appetite even further. “Mm, yes, Pavita shall!” she grinned eagerly and headed right for the first tray, a rather stacked pile of hamburgers; delicately picking one up in both hands and biting right into it, giving quite a pleased sigh from the rich flavors crossing her tongue. “Mmmph…ooh, Pavita has never tasted a burger as delicious as this!” she happily chirped, that delightful flavor driving her to momentarily forget her manners, digging right in and noisily chomping down that burger, licking all around her beak after finishing it.

“Well, there’s more where that came from, if you so desire. You are free to eat as you please.” The user butler kept his grin as he watched the busty bird stuff her beak, mowing down burger after burger to fill her rumbling belly. The delicious flavors only drove her to keep eating more and more, her hunger seeming to persist despite having just finished her seventh or eighth burger!

“Mmpmhh, mmmh, oh, these are simply wonderful~” Pavita groaned happily between beak-fuls of meat, bread and veggies, her seemingly endless hunger not even really registering in her mind; all of her thoughts focusing on stuffing more of that wonderful food into her beak. All the while, the user watched intently as the turkey’s belly steadily distended, along with her hips and thighs; each burger adding extra inches to her waist! With how snug her dress was, the outline of her steadily-fattening form was quite visible.

“Enjoying America so far, Miss Pavita?” he teased with a bit of a chuckle, watching as the busty turkey downed the last burger, licking around her beak, “You were certainly hungry!”

“Ooh, yes…those were absolutely delicious!” Pavita chirped, grabbing a few napkins nearby and cleaning off her hands, only to reach for what appeared to be a three-gallon pitcher of a bright-pink liquid on the table beside the now empty burger tray. With a soft grunt, she hoisted it up and tipped it to her beak, slurping up that rather sweet liquid, the flavor quite recognizable as pink lemonade. In just a few moments, the big turkey guzzled down nearly a third of the pitcher, only distending her belly out that much further, starting to really press outward against her dress now. “Mmnh, Pavita is still feeling quite hungry though.” she softly cooed, licking her beak once more as she gazed to the side at the next tray, stacked with quite a pile of apple pies.

“Another American delicacy…mm, let us see if it really is as good as they say!” she softly giggled, reaching over for a couple of those baked goods and eagerly stuffing her beak just as she had with the burgers, while her butler stepped up beside her to get a closer look at her steadily-expanding body. Each pie she downed added more and more to not only her belly, but also her bosom and butt; her already massive breasts starting to swell even further, while her comparably petite rear plumped up nicely; her dress really starting to strain with her hips growing so wide!

“Indeed…feel free to eat as much as you would like.” he reassured her, grinning quite eagerly as the now quite plump turkey kept gulping down more and more pie, cleaning each tray and immediately going for another, until she finished the whole tray, leaving it empty just as with the previous one. “My, you must have been really famished, Miss Pavita!”

With quite a pleased sigh, the now quite large bird licked her beak after taking another large swig of that sweet liquid beside her, gazing over towards the sharply-dressed user. “Ah…it has been quite a few hours since Pavita last ate, yes…but she agrees, this was certainly a large meal!” she chirped with a grin, stroking her hands down along her belly, finally realizing just how much it had swollen!

Both of her cheeks flushed a bright pink as she gazed downward, seeing that not only had her bust swollen a good few inches larger, but her once slim and slender belly was now swollen and round, looking like she was heavily pregnant! “Oh, my…Pavita has really let herself go!” she softly gulped, her hands sliding even lower still and rubbing over her hips and rump, feeling their increased size as well.

“Yes, you’re picking up the American diet rather quickly.” the user crossed his arms over his chest, keeping up his light smirk as he watched the chubby turkey feel up her own body, “Do you find it to your liking?”

“Pavita is…not sure.” the busty turkey tilted her head lightly, reaching back and giving her plump cheeks some soft gropes through her dress, “Pavita has been quite fit and thin her whole life…this is an interesting change of pace, to say the least!” she gave a soft sigh, not particularly minding having a bigger bust and rump, but having such a rounded belly was a bit jarring for her.

“Heh, well…that was just an appetizer, Miss Pavita. If you truly wish to embrace the American life, you must continue your feast!” user continued, gently grasping the handlebar on the end of one of the other trays and rolling it over towards the turkey, “I promise, the American public will absolutely love you, after putting on some pounds!”

Pavita gazed down at the tray presented to her, a small mountain of french fries covered in nacho cheese and bacon pieces. “Well…if you are that sure, senor…” she lightly smiled again, certainly enjoying the delicious scent radiating from the fried potatoes before her; that big belly of hers giving a soft growl and gurgle, seemingly still hungry even after eating so much! “Pavita will continue then…for her American fans~!” she chirped, licking her beak again, before grinning wide and leaning down to just bury her face in that pile of fries, happily munching away at it.

While she did that, the user only smirked eagerly, kneeling down beside the gorging avian and reaching out to her belly, rubbing a hand over it, “Heh…atta girl, Pavita. For America!” he chuckled, patting her gut amidst the light rubbing, feeling it lightly swell and distend even further outward with each beak-ful of fries that Pavita gulped, continuing to slosh and churn and gurgle with so much fattening food inside.

“Mmpmh…mmm…!” Pavita sighed blissfully, the combination of fries and cheese tasting surprisingly pleasant, with the bacon adding an extra bit of strength to the flavor. The soft rubbing to her belly made her blush a little more, but she didn’t particularly mind; finding it rather soothing as she ate. Just as before, her belly, hips and butt continued to swell and fatten as she gorged herself, really starting to strain her dress now, making it cling to her plump belly and waist, with the threads lightly creaking, threatening to snap at any moment.

Hearing those light creaks and groans, the user scooted back a bit and stood up, watching as the busty turkey’s dress began to rip and tear over the next few moments! “There we go…keep it up, Miss Pavita, you’re doing great!” he kept his lewd smirk as he moved behind the turkey now, gazing at that now quite huge and wide rear of hers, more and more of it being revealed as her dress continued to tear! Even being covered by a pair of silken pink panties, it was still quite a lovely sight for that user, who was now struggling to contain his boner.

Pavita had been too engrossed in gorging herself to notice her dress tearing off, continuing to just shovel handfuls of fries, bacon and gooey cheese into her beak, eyes closed as she enjoyed that heavenly flavor! It wasn’t until her dress gave quite a loud rip, tearing enough to finally slip off of her body, leaving her bare, all except for those panties! At this, she gulped one last time, blushing quite heavily and gazing back over her shoulder, seeing the user standing behind her with quite an eager grin.

“Oh yes, you’re plumping up so nicely, Miss Pavita!” he chuckled, reaching forward and pressing his hands into those now quite massive and doughy buttcheeks, ruffling his hands through the soft down feathers, and tracing his fingertips over the edges of those pink panties, which had become quite wedged in between the turkey’s monstrous cheeks. “I can already see it, you’ll easily be the most popular and sought-after escort in all of America!”

Those teasing rubs and gropes to her fat rump only made Pavita groan softly, her tailfeathers lightly twitching from the lovely tingles coursing through her jiggling rump; licking around her beak before speaking up, “Mmnh…y-you really think so, dear?” she softly cooed, still blushing heavily, stroking her own hands down to her belly again, feeling how it had nearly doubled in size from before, incredibly round and pudgy now, jutting out at least two feet from her body. “Pavita is getting so large!”

“Mmhm, that’s exactly the point. Getting you as large as possible!” the user nodded, raising one hand and swatting the turkey’s right buttcheek, making her softly squawk as that smack made the fat cheek ripple and wobble. “Americans really love thick, stuffed turkeys…and you’re shaping up to be the thickest one yet!” he teased, before stepping out in front of her again, this time setting down what looked like a five-gallon chocolate milkshake in front of her.

“Ah…Pavita is glad to hear it, senor~!” Pavita happily chirped, smiling again amidst her blush, watching as the green butler hoisted that hefty drink up in front of her, and placed a rather large straw into it. “Ooh, ice cream? Pavita has always wanted to try American ice cream.” she licked her beak again and stood up, hefty bosom bouncing from just that bit of movement, before she leaned in to close her beak around the end of the straw, eagerly sucking that sweet frozen cream up through it.

“Heh, yes…made with whole milk and extra heavy cream.” the user continued to watch the turkey’s body fatten even further, that milkshake seeming to add more size to her than any of the previous meals! Each gulp added inches to her waist and belly, her thighs becoming incredibly thick now as well, to match her massively wide hips and just impossibly huge butt. Those feathery breasts of hers kept swelling too, gaining cup size after cup size; already making her original size look tiny in comparison!

Pavita continued to happily gulp down the very thick and extra-sweet milkshake, swelling so fast that she could quite noticeably feel herself getting bigger and heavier by the second, her gut really pushing outward while her feathery rump swelled to insane sizes, once more drawing the user in to rub and squeeze at both of those doughy cheeks, making them jiggle and wobble like a waterbed! The pink panties that once stretched over her rear had now become tightly strained around her waist and between those mountainous cheeks, finally tearing off and falling to the floor at the turkey’s feet.

In what seemed like only a minute, she had already finished off most of the milkshake, prompting her to stand up and tip the jug to her beak now, gulping that fattening deliciousness right from the edge of its container, now allowing the user to watch her gut balloon outward in front of her. With quite an eager grin, he moved around in front of her and pressed both hands in against that tubby paunch, feeling and watching as they just sunk right in, as if he were pressing them into a huge mound of dough! “Yes…yes, Pavita! Grow into the biggest, most American turkey of all!” he cheered her on, gazing up to see her cutely blushing amidst her gulping and guzzling, her neck bulging out over and over with each large gulp, though with that now quite titanic rack of hers in the way, her face would soon be obscured from the user’s sight.

“Ahh…ooh…mmmnh…” the now massively-plump Pavita panted quite heavily as she finally reached the bottom of the milkshake, setting the huge jug back down on the tray and licking around her beak one last time, giving a deep, pleased sigh. “So delicious…” she softly cooed, looking down upon her now absolutely massive body, every part of her swollen to immense sizes, from her bust, which had nearly doubled in size, to her gut, which protruded outward even further than her breasts did, continuing to wobble and jiggle as the quite lustful butler squished and kneaded the rolls of fat. “Pavita is so big now…is this what you had in mind, senor~?” those chubby cheeks of hers blushed cutely again as she felt that user cuddle up against her massive gut, pressing his head and upper body in against it.

“Even better than what I was expecting, Miss Pavita.” he sighed quite happily, squishing in against that doughy belly while his hands ran down to the turkey’s incredibly wide hips, quite thick and fatty as well, her thighs having plumped up to match her hips and enormous rear. “There’s not a single doubt in my mind that you’ll be the most popular escort in the country.”

“Hehe…you flatter Pavita~” she blushed a little more amidst a soft giggle, bringing her own hands down to the user’s back and really hugging him in against her massive gut, while her titanic feathery tits wobbled just above, lightly tapping down against the top of his head, “Pavita will do her best to please all of her new American fans!”

youtube.com/watch?v=FaCHBmGWcBc(Include credible sources with your claims next time)

Every site is actively hostile to us. If you think the Holla Forumstards hate us, you should hear reddit and tumblr screech and holler when they hear mention of those mansplaining white cis-het mysogynisyic #notmycomrades at Holla Forums who they know are just like nazis because they use excellent language like class.

These are classic.

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Literally what

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this is what every lefturd thinks. Get over yourself, you want to change the world in a shitty way, join the club of people getting ridiculed for it

You're just dumping random unrelated stuff without giving any context

youtube.com/watch?v=1tDOZOW0IFg&list=PLo0ThsDnveH5nv5TNviBrGTX9P6IrYfIe

Well, black metal is irredemable shit.

the context is "IM RITE UR RONG DIS JPG PROOVE IT LOL CHEKMAET LIBTARDZ"

Isn't Asserism considered leftist?

I can't tell if this is a raid or some Holla Forums troll who spent the afternoon on Holla Forums digging up the goofiest shit that he could find and bringing it to us for our amusement.

no, it's typical 3rd positionist shit

Their bizarre obsession with Jews always reminds me of Robert Service's Trotsky bio
wsws.org/en/articles/2009/11/serv-n11.html

why is it only MLs who bother with these Holla Forums threads. You realize that by acknowledging your support for Stalin, you've prevented us from actually converting any of these fucks right? Honestly what the fuck is wrong with you? Maybe link to polpot's little red book and some North Korean propaganda while you're at it you fucking dipshit.

Sorry Hiro, don't like being datamined.

Not him, and I agree that distorting the message to fit the mood of the workers is inherently counter-revolutionary, but it seems strangely appropriate to jerk off to stalin when talking to people who unironically love hitler. They seem vastly more preoccupied with how many bolskeviks were technically jewish than the whole "murdering innocents" thing.
Holla Forums is at its core nothing more than aesthetics. You can't truly expect to present substance and win people over by logic on there, though that's all I really do. "My tongue and soul in this be hypocrites" and so on

it's not a true shitthread until this pic is posted lol

Current threads:

What's wrong with communism?
boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101111892

Communism is for the people. Prove me wrong.
boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101084825

Anarcho-communism is the obvious solution. Prove me wrong.
boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101106407

Are Trumpards the new SJW? They use the same identity politics
boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101102161

/left/ General - Anons Of The Board, Unite! Edition
boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101101842

SOCIALISM/COMMUNISM HATE THREAD
boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101094909

TRIGGERED

From 4pol.

I'm pretty sure I was a Nazi before you guys came in.

New thread:
/left/ General - Dictatorship Of The Holla Forumsetariat Edition
boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101117272

Nazbol?

lol they are literally as fucking stupid as the norms that thought ebaumsworld was the internet boogeyman

I seriously applaud those of you who participate in those threads. I seriously doubt I could handle spending a meaningful amount of time in those threads without contracting incurable cancer from the sheer mental retardation that lurks that den of autism. It's all "muh benezuela" and "muh 60 gorillion". I can't spend more than 10 seconds there without suffering a mental breakdown.

boards.4chan.org/r9k/thread/33105698

get in here fellers

you still are apparently

Woops forgot to turn off shitposting flag.

It seems I am now, I guess.

I don't care as long as we can get more people on the anti-capitalist train tbqh

All you gotta do is shitpost some memes and the autists will bump the thread to page 0 constantly.

Anyway there has been a small amount half/pol/ anons that have asked questions in good faith and some that have come here for discussion; and at the end of the day I'd rather have an user NEETarmy comrade than some PB nomenclatura liberal from a university.

Get in there comrades: boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101113550

We're getting rid of their addition addiction to porky through the power of Christ!

Agree make it broad left but meme Stalin for the edgelords

this

wew, we're taking over. is this the vanguard?

Okay so just never mention here at all

Too late cunt

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kek

Oh good, come to talk about how your candidate just hired a bunch of Jews?

the retards at 4/pol/ are raiding 8ch.pl/leftypol/ instead of here.

they really are complete newfags

top kek

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No I've come to break up your delusion

don't forget the booru.

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hey niggers, stop posting plain http links. Use https.

ha, shoot.

Did your candidate highering a bunch of jews not break your own delusion?

Seriously how do you feel about that?

That explains a lot.

New thread
/left/ General - Running Out Of Scoialist Puns Edition
boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101127429

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top fucking kek!

You lot are politically impotent and any effect you meme yourselves into believing that you have had on Holla Forums is laughable.

I said use HTTPS. You understand if you're not using HTTPS, anyone can intercept your connection, right?

BECAUSE 8CH.NET IS BLOCKED ON GOOGLE, ONLY THE .PL SITE SHOWS UP
BASED CODEMONKEY

Clearly there is a Jewgle conspiracy to prevent Holla Forums from finding our secret hacker website.

Unlike you faggots who are really good at getting jewish bankers into power.

Do leftists see a problem with Jews all of a sudden?

how many dimensions are you playing on right now?

Yes, so politically impotent that your whole reactionary ideology is broadly defined as 'anti communist' yup we're really insignificant and thats why you constantly bitch about how we rule the world nefariously in secret.

Can you answer the question about our new Jewish overlord please?

Or are you just going to keep pretending your candidate isn't going to be just Hillary in a fucking toupe with a little more fake tan

1488

fuckin a

you are like a little baby

watch this:

1917

Do you fascists not see a problem with Jews all of a sudden?

I could give a shit about their race, the fact they work for Goldman Sachs means I give a shit about them being quickly got rid of.

My ideology is based around the furthering a welfare of my race, principally.

You fuckers are just the most consistent enemies to that.

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Funny that, because all the whitest countries lean the furthest left

Work or worked. There's a difference.

I don't know anything about this guy yet.

So you're a black nationalist? Like an SJW?

When leftypol has been on his case for years.

Well what does that tell you.

He works for Goldman Sachs, literally what else do you need to know?

He is the establishment, Trump has hired only the Establishment.

Because socialism only works in homogenous countries.


I have pride in the accomplishments of my ancestors. I want the world they created, that you reside in, to continue

Idiot

your ideology is literally WE WUZ KANGz

What the fuck does this even mean? I see nazis parrot this constantly yet they never give an explanation.

But it quite simply hasn't continued. We've got a sort of ship of theseus thing going on, but Europe today is quite alien to Europe of 2000 or even 200 years ago


Ultimate cuck. Are you proud in your wife's son for getting an A on his math test?

Except it lacks the irony associated with Afrocentrism

Your ideology is literally gib me dat shiet

I would be proud of MY son for getting an a on his math test

Then why does it work so well in Kurdistan?


I want to create a better world than my ancestors created, not just perpetuate mediocrity.

He worked for probably the second or third most corrupt organisation on earth. An organisation that in fact….funded Hillary Clinton of all people. Yes that tells me all I need to know. I mean, there is pages and pages more that I could know, that would prove the same point, but really that is all I need to know

That's appropriate because you would've undoubtedly had a hand in that and it's as much your achievement as his
Pride in your ancestors and their buddies is a very false sort, however. Put any weight on it and it will crack.

Want me to cycle this thread?

You're ideology is theft from the working people by elites. Our ideology is working people owning everything they work for.

You are the gibesmdat just you do it with Goldman Sachs and the CIA

sure, madam

yea that would be awesome but people need to cap Holla Forums butthurt for posterity

Have we not been doing that consistently for generations? Is now not the best, most comfortable time in human history?
Idiot


You can think what you want. But I appreciate that my ancestors did everything that they did while putting me here now

I think many of them are legitimately The_Donald refugees.

You're confused, Not Socialism is for the Volk und Reich

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Its funny watching the NEETsocs getting runout of half/pol/ by the Trump Neocons from reddit and the normiesphere.

Watching Holla Forums bending over for Goldman and Soros is like pottery

They're still fucking doing it, what a bunch of absolute retards.

You can appreciate them, for sure, but appreciation and pride are altogether different things.
And I won't say you "can't" have pride in something you weren't part of. One can't legislate feelings. It merely doesn't make sense to make a theory of fetishizing the past.

Still waiting on an answer.

Yes Kurdistand successfully fighting ISIS and maintaining the most free society in the region. Living standards are going up and up. Incredibly diverse racially.


No, it isn't, comparable to other times. Wages across the board were higher and products cheaper ten years ago.

Why? Oh, a capitalist market crash (which had to be saved by socialism)

useless slogan, meaning absolutely nothing. The 'Reich' is inherently designed to steal from the 'Volk' it must do this to sustain itself.

this thread is great. we're making inroads


sure, why not

Yes Kurdistand successfully fighting ISIS and maintaining the most free society in the region. Living standards are going up and up. Incredibly diverse racially.


No, it isn't, comparable to other times. Wages across the board were higher and products cheaper ten years ago.

Why? Oh, a capitalist market crash (which had to be saved by socialism)

useless slogan, meaning absolutely nothing. The 'Reich' is inherently designed to steal from the 'Volk' it must do this to sustain itself.


nydailynews.com/news/politics/trump-treasury-pick-bank-foreclosed-senior-owed-27-cents-article-1.2895095

Is that why the Reich charges extortionate interests on the Volk?

Hilarious


They are two sides of the same coin.

yes, prease

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This isn't any kind of a response, wages and living standards were higher ten years ago before the recession. This is an extremely well known fact.


So, if you took the state away their would be no people?

Nope. Try again.

show me any one instance of you BTFO of any one of us in this thread? You literally haven't presented one single point with any merit

How many levels of pure ideology are you on, my dude?

Its hilarious when you're saying that civilization has been perpetually mediocre while using such a small length of time to prove your point.

It takes the people to create a state to complete goals and tackle issues that they couldn't handle individually

Oh fug lads :D the trumpenprole geniuses found out.

new thread
/left/ General - Better Red Than Dead Edition
boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101135393

8ch.pl/leftypol/res/1442.html

what we really need is someone to screencap THIS:
8ch.pl/leftypol/catalog.html

>WE'RE ON THE WRONG BOARD!!
>WE'RE ON THE WRONG BOARD!!
>WE'RE ON THE WRONG BOARD!!
>WE'RE ON THE WRONG BOARD!!
>WE'RE ON THE WRONG BOARD!!
>WE'RE ON THE WRONG BOARD!!
>WE'RE ON THE WRONG BOARD!!
>WE'RE ON THE WRONG BOARD!!

what did you expect? 8ch.net is delisted and halfchan is made up of retards from /r/the_donald

guys, bump the other shitpost threads so that the ones directing them here get slid.

Oh my god, what dumbfucks. Retards spent hours raiding the wrong website.

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yeah but I mean we need one that compiles the whole story, with tons of reaction images and everything. does anyone here have experience with that stuff?

Days, actually.

Is anyone here ACTUALLY the .pl Holla Forums owner? If so, you could help keep it as a containment board by deleting the redirect threads.

:^)

or better yet, do a wordfilter changing 8ch.net to 8ch.pl or something like that

Good lord. I knew that halfchan has been bad at raids since 2009, but that is just pathetic. Remember when 4chan actually got shit done?

No new generation took up the torch. The old ways are dead.

No I was directly answering your question about this being the most comfortable time ever. It isn't.


Why does this require a centralised state?

Why is it that anytime Holla Forums gets butthurt that someone has a different opinion one of them decides to spam guro shit? Its like they think all of us just got on the internet yesterday.

well Holla Forums did help elect the new president

RIP Final Boss of the Internet

Not really. Hell, we probably did more for Trump than they did by turning all of the Berniebros against Clinton.

If halfchan did a Holla Forums, would you guys move there?

BLUNDER OF THE YEAR
Wish I was a drawfag to make a comic about this.

It would never work.

Fuck no! I have no interest in being a part of japmoot's data farm.

probably, we would at least be on google then

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lel

When i first went to 8ch.pl i was so disappointed to find out the leftypol there was pretty much dead.

This would be so great.

KEK

D E V I L I S H

Currently sliding .pl Holla Forums. Join me comrades! Let's see how long we can make Holla Forums waste their time!

don't put too much effort in, mods can still clean up some spam here. better to use most of our effort on cuck/pol/

LMFAO
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boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101135932
boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101135932
boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101135932
boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101135932

I knew that 5-D chess set would come in handy

Don't worry, it's mostly just low-effort couple word posts. Gonna start posting on half/pol/ in a minute. Just gotta keep that front page clear of our link, you know?

They are infighting over who may be a shill kek

are you the OP or something?

maybe


at first I visited there and I wondered why Holla Forums was so dead, took me a while to find here kek

shit, this is actually probably preventing interested people from coming here lol

I have a permanent ban on halfchan, os i can't participate on this raid

I almost feel bad, like we are beating up a retarded kid or something.

Probably. 4ch is my home TBH I'm more or less visiting here.

fuckem

They deserve it, comrade. Discipline and punish.

the best part is that you cannot directly link to 8ch.net on 4chan cuz of all the users they lost to it, you can't google it cuz of muh hebe, and if you do you get sent to 8ch.pl, a near identical copy with almost no actual users. we've some how managed to develop the most perfect natural defense system against raiding. Not to mention that all the new mods have cut down on the time Holla Forums shitposts stay up to begin with and it's been long enough since GG that all the newfags don't even know how to get to fullchan anyway.

Holla Forums actually makes for a bretty comfy internet fortress in terms of our relationship with 4/pol/.

How do we get new people lol

Do they just have to seek us out quest style? Follow the freedom trail?

We've made Hoxha proud.


Actually, at least some of the infighting is me pretending to be one of them.

safe space!

6-D chess
Next thing you know you'll be president, playing like that

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there is a direct link through know your meme. other than that, through places besides 4chan. not much I can tell you, but obviously there must be a way otherwise we wouldn't have gained 200 users in the last month or so.

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I highly suspect that they are coming from 8/pol/. The least retarded among them have to have recognized that they have been played by now. That would explain all of the new mutualists, pirates, and nazbols we have had lately. Give them time, and I am sure that they will settle in. At least the good ones will.

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also the mods on 4/pol/ are cucked and have to begrudgingly respect leftist thought unlike 8/pol/ so the worst you can get for exposing leftist opinions is salty stormdrainers getting hurt in the butt

Thank you hirojewki

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a-are those from anime series?

No clue. The first reminds me of some illustrations in the star wars tabletop rpg book, some of those were comf af

WE'VE REACHED FULL HOXHAISM!!

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I actually got here from seeing Holla Forums mentioned a few times on 4/pol/, looked it up and found the info on KYM that mentioned. I already knew of 8ch though.

What's the deal behind bunkers and Holla Forums?

t one month old newfag

we could if we ever built that fucking commune

Can this person let us know who they are so we can ban them for being retarded?

google enver hoxha

try not to laugh too much

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101145783

new bread[line]
inb4 swede spams again

Hoxha

Enver Hoxha was a paranoid stalinist fuckup who cut off all ties with almost every other state and built 700K bunkers in Albania to protect the people from nuclear war.
The memes practically write themselves.

It's about how Hoxha the communist leader of Albania in the cold war built 100's of thousands of bunkers that were never used
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bunkers_in_Albania

It's a joke at the expense of Enver Hoxha who spent LUDICROUS portions of Albania's economic output on building bunkers all around the countries. Small bunkers at that, as the defense plan was essentially to have every citizen act as militiamen and hold out in the style of a prolonged guerilla war.

speaking of anyone got that commie ball thing with the "whats the worst leftists ideology?" with hoxha ball crying?

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I thought that the bunkers were designed yo protect against paratroopers, which was a technology that was already going out of fashion.

thank you comrade

REEEEEEEEE

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101146189
Real thread here, I've been rused

Post leftist/YPJ qt's in this thread, Holla Forums mostly thinks with its dick anyway

forgot thread
boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101107380#p101148516

I'd at least visit. if a better community formed I'd go.

They're trying to split the general comrades. We need to stop making sectarian generals, and create only general /left/ threads. We should also post the correct thread here whenever someone makes a new one so Holla Forumsacks know which one to bump. We can't let them stop our movement!

I think some of them may be trying to spam new threads in the hope that mods crack down on a "raid"

you mean the jidf

It's that too. Is there anyway we can get the mods of 4/pol/ to stop them from doing this?

Yup because we're all Zionists here. That's what communists actually belive.

how is communism not zionism?

its taken directly from the talmud

t. berniefag

it would help if we picked one thread up now and keep to it till bump limit and then post the new thread here so that we can keep track of the legit one

Are these Holla Forums twats the new CTR?
boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101152604

I don't miss 4chan

This. REAL THREAD:
boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101148879
Enjoy your ban.

[Citation Needed]
Karl Marx was an atheist too, so there's that.

They started a " /nsg/ 卐 - Not Socialism General Anonymous"
boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101144918

we need to make a Hibernia thread to educate these people about the real threat

Damn right. Post ammo here. I'd contribute, but I don't have any Hibernia memes saved.

The Polish Hussars (/həˈzɑːr/, /həˈsɑːr/, or /hʊˈzɑːr/; Polish: Husaria [xuˈsari.a]), or Winged Hussars, were one of the main types of the cavalry in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth between the 16th and 18th centuries. When this cavalry type was first introduced by the Serbian and Hungarian mercenary horsemen at the beginning of the 16th century, they served as light cavalry banners in the Polish army; by the second half of the 16th century and after Stephen Báthory's reforms, hussars had been transformed into heavily armored shock cavalry. Until the reforms of the 1770s, the husaria banners were considered the elite of the Polish cavalry.

youtube.com/watch?v=75zmIj_4LFQ

I think we know who the real defender of Israel is.

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Who is this pepe meant to be?

Holla Forums is probably the bigger botnet at this point.
I'd rather move to masterchan really.

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Remember to report any posts on Holla Forums linking to our board comrades! It's against the rules to talk about Holla Forums on halfchan AFAIK, so all we have to do is report them when they post it!

Literally a CP hive. Tankies confirmed pedo.

muke's from there.
I met him before any of you did.

Pussy

It's not that hard to find. I've only been here posting a month or so but I've known about Holla Forums for ages.

u guys make my brain fire XD

Nice victim complex

why

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Absolute garbage.

Think we can convince them to "split" us "strategically" even further? We win either way.

Your pathetic attempt at demoralizing us won't work. We go to your board to argue in good faith, and you just spam bullshit on our board. Mostly because you all can't argue worth a shit. Stay buttmad though.

I replied to your post mistakenly. I only meant to post the picture. He still thinks they covered our board, when they actually went to the decoy leftypol.

holy fucking shit

Someone really does need to make a good graphic of that cause it could be one of the great ones like the humans vs orcs or the hoovervilles graphics

hmmm thanks u made me think

seriously do we have any people experienced making screencap collages? this is a seriously amazing piece of Holla Forums history

We can finally retire, comrades!

What? No way this place has bots

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Yeah. Saw they posted my post about reporting any links to our board. Remember comrades, that's probably the one of the best ways to piss them off! It's against the rules to post about fullchan on 4chan, so if you report their threads they won't have any way of finding us!

Last left thread had A LOT less shitposting and a lot more actual discussion. Good job boys.

all the shitposting Holla Forums fags got tired so real discussion could happen

New General

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101164157

I feel like I should be more surprised

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101174078
boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101174078
boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101174078

New general

Im off now comlads so someone gotta take over

They deleted the thread

You guys are wacky.

Nah they know its you. How about instead of le ebin raid you just say 'I'm a commie, debate me'?

Yeah that autistic finn and thai got triggered enough to report anything

except Holla Forums flooded to /qa/ en masse to beg the mods to delete the wrongthink until they were given the ruling

Perhaps we should flood /qa/ and tell their newfag mods that leftist threads were common before Holla Forumsharbor

Yeah complain on QA

Someone want to make a new thread with the mod ruling as the image or have it be the first reply?

PLEASE MAKE THIS HAPPEN!

got the pic? i can remake

check the op image

Anyway, I made you a thread to go defend your presence there.

Holla Forumsthread/101176180

If I get baned you cunts are stuck with me.

hang on i got permaed lel

I made a /qa/ thread now its your job to post in it

Man they are fukin triggered that we just want to have a nice discussion

This is fuckin dumb and doesn't work
This works

POST EVERYBODY

m8 that thread was a fucking shitshow.

archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/101174078

you can still post now that its on plebs. But that 'discussion' wasn't really going anywhere.

Im still fucking around with the router so ill remake the general in a bit

/qa/ thread
boards.4chan.org/qa/thread/865528

The thread was deleted because the OP image contained a reference to Holla Forums you fucking mongoloids.

oh no doubt but they are so triggered by our existence on that board that they can handle it

*can't handle it

It was banned for spam just like all the other ones by the triggered mods

To be fair it's pretty fucking spammy.

Because of a reference to Holla Forums.

thank you for correcting the record

Now that you've caught up, maybe make an OP without Holla Forums in the image.

Is there even enough people active at the moment to bother with it until later?

Genius stuff.

not enough ausfags to cover the night shift tbh

kek.


Just appropriate my shitty thread you faggots.

The other thread was deleted for mentioning Holla Forums so lets just use the thread called Holla Forums

and yet not deleted.

Yea just got deleted

lel. So I see.

maybe calling it leftypol was pushing it.

HAHAHAHAH BTFO BY HALFPOL MODS

Don't they permaban for Holla Forums stuff? If you are the OP of that thread did you get banned?

Nah no ban. Not even a warning. Maybe 'modz pls no ban' helped. at least if I'd had a warning though I'd know why thread was delete.

I think if you want a thread over there that isn't delete it needs much more content. If it looks like lefty spam and reads like lefty spam, apparently that's enough.

Its not the leftys that are spamming the threads its butthurt Holla Forums

looky here

archive.4plebs.org/pol//thread/101174078

OP was a serious post. First response was an honest question that went unanswered. OP didn't even try to engage beyond making thread and a 'no'. Then you got spammed quite hard. I guess if you're going to have the thread you'll need a couple of dedicated posters to keep churning out content.

Putting something in OP about lease don't delete/spam would likely work, at least as far as the mod is concerned.

I believe that first post was in the first 3 or 4 posts for the last many threads

20 odd posts but yeah was deleted within 15 minutes.

what's pirateflag's ban say?

I was making threads all day in US timezone and barely replying / replying with shitposts / not replying at all and it was all good.

Some Ausfag janitor permed me for spam on the last one.

or maybe it was a mod if i got perned i dunno their powers

Pretty weak reasoning unless you had a dozen threads up at once. But tbh


Is recipe for getting banned. 4pol has a lot of what we call one-hit-shitposters. Maybe you came across as that.

Might be worth requesting unban.

boards(dot)4chan.org/pol/thread/101180669

Capping this thread for the cuckchanners. Should be able to stir up shit for a few weeks, Still have that gamerghazi thread cap too, I'll say you all were working from all IRC that I was conveniently a part of as well. Will be a good weekend, thanks comrades.

Fuck off freech. Try it and I'll dump your bullshit masterplan for this board.
Hint: I'm part of the actual IRC from .pl/inth/ and know that one of your goons got into a vol position here, Holla Forums, and Holla Forums.

this thread is a goldmine for agitprop

Because that's always worked in the past.

Nice try faggot but we only have 8 people in the IRC and I can guarantee you aren't one of them. Also there's no proof we got into mod position and even if someone did the plan would still work by deflecting, redirecting, and ridiculing any user that tries to expose the plan. Fucking dipshit.

Poor freech can't find themselves ever since their arch-nemesis hotwheels went into retirement…

all this free advertising :)

Newfriends are plebbitors not Holla Forumsyps, some of us have been purposefully posting links on leftist boards to generate traffic. I's paid off but some of the locations we've been scouting aren't the best for getting informed prospective comrades (note the influx of trapposters and feminazis). Hopefully the idpol threads will do their job, our group thought that would help but it's just fracturing the base. We've a few more sights we're canvassing atm though, should be rivaling Holla Forums by May if all goes according to plan.

Because socialism works, if there are only/mostly people who strive to accomplish more than mediocrity, who see socialism as a safety net in case something beyond their control happens that makes them dependent on the help of others. It doesn't work sustainably if 'welfare queen' is an acceptable job aspiration for a significant part of your country's populace.
Also, homogeneity is preferable because it offers less D&C potential.

nothing wrong with traps user

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how will chemically castrated sexually deviant men contribute to society?

they can still work. also


you tankies never learn

Read a book other than Mein Kampf, faggot.

It's hard to read books when they're on fire.

False. Everyone listened to Jews once they got set on fire.

So we just need to burn whites then?

That depends. In fifty years will I be able to move to any country of my choosing and demand protected status there?

No because you're a cuck.

Picking up a welfare check is probably more work than picking 3 potatoes a day.

That's basically a prerequisite for becoming a protected class tho.

too*

leftypol grammar nazis in charge of saging

I am going to spam all my agitprop ITT.

I guess you'll fit right in then with the other whites.

The irony being a few of these used to be pretty common on Holla Forums. Specially the second one.

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yeah, but Holla Forums associates it with jews instead of capitalism

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Go see who owns each of these media companies for yourself…

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I can already guess

SAVAGE

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HA

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Capitalists?

God damn. Some fine work.

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JEWISH starbucks ceo. wake up you commie cucks

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He could be Muslim, black, purple, etc.. It doesn't fucking matter. What matters is his economic function, the capitalist function.

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Silly rabbit.

Disney: Bob Iger
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Iger

News Corp: Murdoch. Crypto-jew.

Viacom: Sumner Redstone (Rothstein)

Time Warner: Jeff Bewkes (married to a jew)

General Electric: Jeffrey R. Immelt NOTAJEW

CBS: Leslie Moonves, jew

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leslie_Moonves

So what, under 2% of the population of the US but control at least 50% of the US media. Surely, 🍀🍀🍀coincidence🍀🍀🍀?

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See guys. That was pretty civil.

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Holy shit this is actually starting to work, we're actually making progress

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This is silly. Don't do it.

We're talking about Holla Forums, "Hitler did nothing wrong" central. About the only place where you can just go full tankie and still have higher ground. Denounce Stalin if and only if they want serious discussion, glorify gulags with funny pictures otherwise.

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This, meme if they are memeing, and discuss rationally if they are prepared to also discuss rationally.

actually true De Leonism has never been tried before.

kek ←- this one
kek
kek
kek
kek

its because castro died

god that would be so funny if that was from Holla Forums though

/biz/ is an irrelevant board. the boards that matter on 4chan are

Holla Forums
/int/
Holla Forums
Holla Forums

why do these boards matter?

Cancer spread to Holla Forums from Holla Forums and then from Holla Forums to Holla Forums.
They're the biggest boards.
As for /int/, I wouldn't call that important.

Meme boards.

I wouldn't say they matter, personally, but whatever.

There of course going to stumble on disinfo of course.

Holla Forums is responsible for some of the best and most successful 4chan memes of the past 5 years, including smug pepe. additionally, Holla Forums has been trying to colonise the board for ages. there's so much Holla Forumslution that i had to start filtering every instance of the words "commie," "leftist," "marx," and "liberal," among others.

t. someone who's main board has been Holla Forums since it opened

It's insane how consistent they've been in posting interracial porn on Holla Forums.

Really makes you wonder about some of them

"BLACKED" is a literal meme there now. it's crazy

But user didn't you know politics are shaped like a horseshoe and therefore communism and nazism is the exact same

As soon as I see a white woman in a room with primarily white walls/linen/appliances/etc, its my first assumption.

We still doing this?

Yeah let's start another one. You guys got a topic or focus you're prepared to talk to them at length about?

How bout focusing it on the Trump is a commie meme.

Seems like good bait.

And I was replying to myself not trying to pretend to be two people.

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I mean that's how reality works now. If we meme it hard enough and kek wills it, it becomes true.

Although race-baiting would be most effective because race seems to be the only thing on their minds ever, but I don't want to race-bait.

Be serious when they are serious though. Don't justify their claims of us raiding them, because we're not.

North Korea thread:

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101298080

Seconded. I'm only fucking around with the blatant racists.

Anyone want to "Red Pill" them on leftism?

Any anarchy flags want to break down the Matrix from an anarchist perspective for them?

Come to think of it, it's real funny how they worship a movie written and directed by two sisters.

GAMERGATE!

Shee-it come to think of it. How do they do feel about an African 'red pilling' them every time they say 'redpill' CUZ MORPHEUS IS THE ONLY MOTHERFUCKER WITH REDPILLS!

trans-sisters*
:>)

Holla Forums, what if I told you, you were about about to swallow a pill that's been soaking in black man palm sweat for the last 5 minutes?

Sort of ironic how they get pissy about us appropriating some originally right-wing memes, while they like to use terminology appropriated from works of Orwell and the Wachowskis.

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101303955

How cancerous.

Why does boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101307226 get no love?

seems decent to me

A better thread appeared!

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101291489

The plot thickens:

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101307461

Imagine the most psychotic woman you've ever dated/talked to. Imagine that. Imagine the most petty, manipulative, scoundrel of a man you've ever talked to. Now imagine those two are combined, pumped up on estrogen injections. This is the level of insanity transexuals are on.

I was going to have one over, because I wanted head. I said "what time you coming over, bud?" and immediately I was berated and told to fuck off. I didn't expect anything different, a sort of resilience test. I do this frequently with females as well, and I've learned to never engage with lunatics, thus, not banging a tranny is the correct play to make, always, unless you're paying, because even a figuratively castrated man understands he needs to eat.

You must always remember these are not women. They are men mentally and physically, with a severe hormone imbalance to their own detriment. They are liars at their very foundation, abominations of biology, or victims of venomous coercion. They tend to be all three at once, which is likely why they commit suicide once their brains fully develop. Shamed and guilty, they become crestfallen. Rather than face reality and be forthright to save others from the same betwixt fate, they blow their brains out. In their last act, they do one of the things men are better equipped for: suicide, in a very proficient manner.


boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101307461#p101307907

I made the mistake of fucking a tranny once, worst mistake of my life.

Made me realize pretty much exactly what you described. Every tranny is borderline psychotic and can barely function in society.

It's actually extremely cruel that we indulge their delusions by allowing for them to mutilate themselves and treating them as if they are their preferred gender.

How do their ID's work? Do they change between threads? Do they reset the number of posts after a time? Or are they a permanent counter of posters from an IP address?

I think it's per thread.

alright guys, It's Mod-Bro. I'm back. Let me know what threads on Holla Forums you want deleted, and I'll get right on it. Love to see you guys transforming the board.
As always, I wont be banning more users than I can plausibly deny as mod error/whatever. this is because bans get noticed, especially when they try to appeal them.

So send the requests in now, Comrades.

Don't get too biased please.
Just enforce the rules of the board - which obviously don't exclude us.
We want to take back what should be neutral territory, not just turn it into Holla Forums.
Worst case - we should at least get the board split into two.

Actually guys, don't post them here, email the threads you need gone to my email adress, that way there isn't any evidence in this thread.
send them to:
[email protected]/* */


Thanks for the advice, but I really don't see the use of trying to debate these 🍀🍀🍀deplorables🍀🍀🍀. Besides, 4chan rules already say no racism outside of Holla Forums

For sure, but despite the rules, they have strongly embedded their crappy culture into the board - if you go too far it will lead to a shit show.
Lets not get ahead of ourselves and try to ease into it.
Holla Forums has been around for, what? 4 or 5 years? And they got a second wind with Trump putting himself in the ring for the election - it will take time for our presence to be just tolerated, let alone anywhere near accepted.
They keep referring to what we're doing as a raid, that will have to change before any of the above will happen.

The most sour of all grapes.

You'll never beat National-Socialism sorry it's the only way to route the civilizational schizophrenia camoflaged at the heart of capital's vortical "center".


kys

NSDAP was a big center for capital.

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Hi guys. Could you please stop spamming your cringy, failure of an ideology on other websites?

Cheers.

Hi guys. Could you please stop spamming your cringy, failure of an ideology on other websites?

Cheers.

"all communism is stalinism"

What other examples of "natio­nal social­ism" do you want to talk about then?

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should revolutionary, transgressive thought is about retreading the 20th century's litany of failure? i'd like to see your examplar of operational pure communism, no blame shifting.

So, no winning examples of "­nati­onal soci­alism" then? Guess we really will never beat it because there's nothing to beat!

get in guys

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101317625

Singapore, Korea (South), Japan.
If you tel me those societies are liberal then you can go kys.

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and this is cute, considering how often there was a collapse "back" into "state capitalism", spontaneous oligarchies, crypto-collaboration after global subterfuge, total ideological control for most of the century, meanwhile the American Left are now fragmentary neoliberal imperial opportunists all about advancing their own myopic and conflicting array of presumed self-interests

Ha.

Man, you really cannot stay on topic.

i reject the premise. all leftism has been an abject failure, all revolutionary ideas are untested by definition.

where are your counter-examples, or are you just another might-is-right nostalgist? aka the exact charge laid against NS? or are you fond of the approx 5 years total of working anarchisms before leftists destroyed it?

Rojava? that's about all you've got rn and they've got oil.

That faculty which man can call his own, reason, is elevated above death and decay, able to make decisions of itself. Ideas are, after all, cunning, and do not need your help.

Tell me where i am wrong.

If Nazi got rid of the borders and allowed the indolent Negroes and Muslims to flood into our lands then hung every Jew and Kulak from a lampost we would be good communists that you wouldn't have a problem with.

I'm asking you to substantiate your claim that "nation­al socia­lism" cannot be beaten, but instead all you've done is beat around the bush, and try to shift the burden of proof. You have made the claim, you are accusing one, grasping in the dark, now finish your argument. You made your bed, lie in it. Don't deflect. Answer.

Why do you guys choose to masturbate over a dead ideology? Why not come up with some actual alternatives to capitalism?

Everywhere. Starting with your insistence for living. Might want to reconsider.

Not entirely related to 4/pol/ but my first ban for arguing on another board (8/v/) it feels strangely satisfying.

well i'm showing your category error in demanding a standard of evidence you appear unable to hold yourself to.

Why? I did not make claims about any accomplishments. You have merely assumed my position, and just sound like a retarded positivist.

dead like this guy?

So what do you propose to do about the class imbalance in Africa and the middle east. I swear to god if it ends with millions of the shitskins flooding our lands you will go the way of Ceaușescu.

yes

Lol, so sayeth a bourgeois "intellectual" embedded in the high priesthood of Western capital's consent industry, who advocated for the exact repressive tolerance idea that is crippling your mass political parties now?

To be cryptic in lieu of staying on topic or coherent. Political boards were a mistake.

Agit-prop is poetical. You are the naive positivist in this scenario, mein freund.

Not really. I'm not the one garbling about "untested" ideas.

What do you mean by this?

Also, if you are too scared of foreigners coming to "your" land, just look at what was done by Lenin. Invest in infrastructure in war-torn countries. Most immigrants don't immigrate because they love your pasty white ass, as long as their countries are not impoverished shitholes (because of colonialism and wars), most would prefer to live in their home countries, regardless of the imbalance of wealth.

Can't tell if this is an ironic post or you are this retarded

Cant tell if communist or retarded

you are suffering from terminal epistemic closure until you can show otherwise, otherwise your coy reddit style posts are just as worthless as they appear. capitalism its technological face is permanent, accelerating revolution anyway, and undermines "reason", rather than advances it.

I would prefer to shoot them rather than have my people turned into slaves who have their labour leeched off to enrich an ungrateful indolent people and if you think i wouldn't do the same for porky then you are wrong.

yeah and then he handed the reigns over to Joe who did all the ethnic cleansing.

What is a reddit style post, pray tell? Would have to be from there to know that, person.
I do not really care, anyway, you are a boring lad and refuse to make conversation, instead insisting on some tangent, some "pernicious" point that should cease every reply, some trite, little remark that holds more in fluff than it does in the way of relevant justification.

Please enlighten us.

Your country already did, all of this is happening because of it.

Spooky

It's already happening, but since you are such an indoctrinated classcuck, you don't see it. As long as porky points you to Jamal, you wouldn't mind him stealing from you or fucking your wife.

You are not doing anything. You are all empty words.

haha wow very insulting.

i guess i'll abort my ceaseless ruination of your entire foundation of being now.

you just mad cos we lumpen on our come up and became situationists, while the situations became marketing execs

the edge is palpable with this one

No.

For every thread you make on 4chan, I'll replace one of my employees through automation.

You have 24 hours.

I am sorry.
But this is exactly what I mean:
just some random particles of conversation that don't even make sense to me
And as if I'm not lumpenpro myself, to steal food to be fed

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Make it two employees and you've got yourself a challenge.

And you are such an indoctrinated internationalist you can't comprehend why pic related keeps happening. As long as Schlomo leads you by your own hooked nose you will keep frothing at the mouth over class and attempting to destroy what ever advancements in society that native peoples create.


Singapore.
Single party state
85% of housing is provided by government.
22% of all business is owned by government.
If you are a dumb commie who thinks your nations labour should go to feed dunderheads in Africa then you are beaten with a cane or shot.
Social entitlements restricted to citizens and their decedents who built the society and not handed out to foreigners.

yet you speak the anglo empire's tongue, you not only profess, but embody the ideological edifice it produced. you are the overseer you despise.

your boy Lenin either named or was overwhelmed by his successor, the theoretician who invented Marxist-Leninism. who buried your whole revolution and did straight up ethnic democide.

why are you not trying to destroy Japan for its savagery? why do you not name the Chinese minority exploiter in SEA?

you don't even know about this because you are Euro-centrist to your core. you cannot even see far enough of your own fundamental white supremacy to see you are its actual vanguard, while tacitly if not overtly supported by the bourgeois civil society.

kek, we all know how your people ended up

This post is so fuckin' fedora-tipping I love it

i'm glad you noticed that about how leftists actually talk/think

Imperial Japan got rekd pretty hard. Don't see anything wrong with it.


Are you retarded? I have nothing against anglo people. Pic related is what would be the best for US.


Aww how cute, Holla Forumsyp learned some new words! Don't try to imitate the well read before understanding what those words mean.

factually incorrect
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_Singapore#Political_parties
Keynesian.
Meanwhile, in reality: tax payer's money in first world countries support the imperialism of the third world, causing the poverty there.
Meanwhile, in reality: the value created by the workers are handed out not to 'foreigners' but to the 'native' bourgeois.

In other words:
nope, that's not how capitalism works, lad

The poster I'm referring to is clearly not a leftie

So it's a fascist state then?

Because fascists state allow political parties and follow trickle down economies.

so what authors have you read who are not German, French, English or US?

Fanon? lel

I think he wants to act like us and pretend that he's read some theory. It's cute how whenever Holla Forumsyps try to speak without resorting to shitty image macros, ignorance and pure edge drips out of their mouth.

What's wrong with Fanon?

nicely spotted, however the point is it's all easily transmutable word salad that is a tactical facade loyal to an imaginary spiritual fraternity of demographic aggregates.

your smugness won't save you. I fail to see how the irreducible eurocentrism of your entire mode of thought is not pure white supremacy, and you simply cannot show otherwise

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just that he's about as African as Dumas

Holy shit it's just as predicted

Fuckin' word salad man

If you don't know what the words mean, it might look like that to you.


Communism began in Europe, but new theory was developed worldwide. It really doesn't matter tho, I'm not some bleeding heart liberal, I don't care about eurocentrism and such.

I was a marxist for years buddy :`)

until i realised the academy was just another rats nest

Wrong PAP with their fashy thunderbolt have been ruling Singapore since 1959
Everything else is an opinion so pic related is what native peoples think of your international imperialism.

lel

You mean you lacked intelligence to understand what you read (most likely some shitty abridged version or image macros on internet and not the real deal) and then got persuaded by the most anti-intellectual ideology that is literally based on blame shifting? Gotcha.

a cornerstone of much of the theory, and I'm, not talking about the old historians who did a lot of very solid work, but that which excites the youth brigades. Is elevating tactics above integrity. As it stands against the 'bourgeois morality' and false consciousness run deep through everything, being that it emerged from the European bourgeois, Engels literally owning a factory, they had to pretend to protest it for what they were proposing. But in claims to be about rejecting Victorian style modes of regimenting the mass mind for some irrational emergent societal organizing principle (profit motive) that robs us of our ability to be faithful to our conscience, but in practice it is just the same ("class solidarity").

see above re: anti-intellectualism.

halfpol was right you cunts really have no arguments.

Wat?
Talk about no arguments.

Go look up the ethnic makeup of Singapore when they founded their nation state and compare it to today.

The PAP is still multiracial.

So your argument is a no true Scotsman fallacy. Because Singapore refuses to purge what you perceive as racial impurities then they are just not real fascists. Sorry i disagree not everyone wants to be retarded like Hitler although i am glad to have provided you with a successful working model of our ideology in the modern world. As for Communists? well there is always Venezuela.

What the hell? I do not really care what ethnicities make up Singapore.
Moreover, a real fascist is not a racist (cf: Mussolini "Race? It is a feeling, not a reality. Ninety-five per cent, at least. Nothing will ever make me believe that biologically pure races can be shown to exist today.… National pride has no need of the delirium of race.)

HAHAHAAAHAAHHAAA

Ha.

And Mussolini is absolutely correct. Try taking up farming one day and you will find out why that is still not an endorsement for rampant out breeding.

Communists get away with acting like they have the monopoly on anti-racism, when they offer the same elaborate apologia for their historical racist criminality as the dumbest neonazi. They claim all the credit for increasing tolerance, because they feel literally spiritually linked to historical movements, picking the winners and whitewashing the losers, so much so that they fantasize about their historical movement status from the viewpoint of the future and feel anyone from any minority who disagrees is an internalized enemy. They were (and often are) virulent eugenicists, anti-semites, ethnic cleansers, the works, despite the USSR's propaganda, which was specifically designed, as laughable as US's "democracy and freedom" defense.

Mighty Yugoslavija's mass ideology couldn't stop the people murdering eachother as soon as they had the chance over the slightest ethnic resentments.

With that in mind there are many examples of working syntheses of fusion of nationalism and socialism. They are disregarded by the Commies as fundamnetally racist by the same dishonest technique.

Ad hominem!

Are you one of those neo-reaction faggots?

It is though, it's all Lysenkoists diagnosing the sluggish schizophrenia from their cloistered towers protected by the capitalist state, "peer-reviewing" eachother and only eachother in hyperspecialized little territories, and for what, exactly?

"Anti-intellectual" is code.

Labor is inherently national-socialist, sorry

"academic" spotted.

Gen thread on 4/pol/ is dead, someone make another?

do you know what happens to the existing academicians whenever Leninist's take power?

sorry to be the one to break it to you komrade

I also find them to be throughly imperialist by nature always desiring to meddle in another peoples sovereign affairs.

Do you even know what imperialism is

I know what it is within the lens of your "internationalist" ideology which somehow precludes you from reckoning with it.

Eastern bloc was raided hard by the center. They also collaborated in trade with the same imperial capitalists, despite the surface of Comecon

Though im willing to admit you had a part in the anti-colonial struggle, i'm not sure it was pure altruism either and Mandela for example said he was just playing the communists

Do you?

That's why they were literally called NATIONAL liberation movements,

Lenin thought he could just move some pawns around afterwards. All tactics, all the time.

And finally, the Trotskists ~somehow~ becoming neoconservatives hahaha

CPUSA endorsing Hillary as well, very class conscious. Tell it to Haiti.

for a while a couple years back i think, they persisted through threads based on ip. now they're just based on ip in a single thread

Yip the gommies came to halfpol thinking we would be right for plunder until we came here and found them wanting.

Tsiparis, Sanders, how many times will you be betrayed? To pretend to have been cynics this whole time? You can't keep blaming the CIA forever you know. Wake up leftists, the entire foundation of your ideology is Scotsmanism.

how about the ol' Molotov-Ribbentrow 8ch? we can invade the libtard reddit lebensraum together :)

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No. Why would anyone want to invade reddit?

to spread the immortal science of historical revisionism.

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From the POV of communists, conservatives and liberals differ very little. Both want private property, state, money, market, hierarchies, etc.

So working together with you would not make sense for us.

LINK ME TO THE CURRENT THREAD

SOMEONE MAKE A CURRENT THREAD

Here you go, you lazy sod.

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101350274

Why do you guys choose to masturbate over a dead ideology? Why not come up with some actual alternatives to capitalism?

most of us aren't ml's if that's what you're implying.

Why do you guys choose to masturbate over a dead ideology? Why not come up with some actual alternatives to capitalism?

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Capitalism isn't dead.

Why do you guys choose to masturbate over the status quo? Why not come up with something else equally pointless to occupy your time?


Get in here guys.
boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101350274

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It only smells that way

It is dead within the century. For all purposes, it is already dead.

You admit communism is a dead ideology then?

I don't think he said that at all fam

Where are you faggots? This requires a constant effort.


Shut up retard.

Yeah, just like last century. And the century before that.

The death of Capitalism has been greatly overexaggerated.

Comrades, we need to create a more diverse portfolio for our 4/pol/ presence.

Basic theory texts are ok, but it has been posted like 20 something times already. What we need, imo, and I ask you to help collecting content, write the text for these:

1) Trump is ruling class threads
With material on his "metaphorial fence", his appointing wallstreet personnel to his cabinet, his "clintons are good people" shit, etc.

2) Thread about debunking basic aut-right contradictions
We have plenty memes for this, but we need the main text, collecting the most obv. ones.

3) A thread purely on the contradictions of capitalism
use Harvey's seventeen contradictions of capitalism if you need to

4) A TL;DR thread on historical materialism
How humanity progresses its stages, how revolution was and is inevitable, etc.

(any more ideas welcome)
Let's spend the next hour preparing for these threads, edit eachothers proposed shit, then finally post it there, link it here.

Please use https://

The theory of Historical Materialism is flawed: Some critics have argued that the concept of Historial Materialism which underlies much of Marxist theory is flawed, or that such a method can be twisted into trying to force the course of history in a particular direction, or that in practice it leads to Nihilism. Very briefly, Historical Materialism is the idea that for human beings to survive, they need to produce and reproduce the material requirements of life, and this production is carried out through a division of labour based on very definite production relations between people. These relations form the economic base of society, and are themselves determined by the mode of production which is in force (e.g. tribal society, ancient society, feudalism, capitalism, socialism), and societies, and their cultural and institutional superstructures, naturally move from stage to stage as the dominant class is displaced by a new emerging class in a social and political upheaval.

Wanted to vent about an issue that's a non issue since it's invisible on 4chan.

Holla Forums and every other board would be so much better if they just banned everyone whose majority of posts includes sage in their email field.

That's all to my incredibly insightful post.

5) Right-wing is Gay Nazi
Why multi-culturalism and radfem are Right-wing (Nazism for non-white and for females).

Why do you think so, my good fellow?

Nobody ever said Capitalism was going to die the previous two centuries.

Are you legitimately American

k

Get the fuck out, Marcuse

If you're waiting for capitalism to breathe it's last breaths to get off your ass, than you''re already beyond redemption.

The promise of a glorious, yet imaginary, future: Some have argued that, like Fascism, Nationalism and many religions, Communism offers a vision of an unachievable perfect future, and keeps its subjects in thrall to it by devaluing the past and the present. It claims to represent a universal truth which explains everything and can cure every ill, and any apparent deviations or under-performance are explained away by casuistry and emotional appeals.

hahahahha I'm in medical school

You are the unemployed fam


Is that what it is now

Copy pasta? Fuckin pathetic

How was it at Holla Forums.pl guys?

sage is a [triggered] device.
All the sage posters I've seen either throw wild accusations/general paranoia, insults or just whining incessantly about some innocuous post or thread. They don't ever contribute anything to a discussion. Anyone that regularly partakes in such behavior is cancer and needs to be culled.

A quarter of Holla Forums and other boards would vanish but it sure would make browsing the boards and having a discussion a much better experience.

Is that what it is now

Legitimate criticism? Fucking pathetic

Tired arguments about something being achievable have been fucking pathetic since critique of Feudal based societies in favor of Democratic ones

You offer nothing new or legitimate, you have taken a shit in the middle of the room and called it art

Subject: Trump is ruling class, here's why
Body:
First of all we need to talk about what the radical left means by ruling class, for it is a historically contingent category.

Under slave-owning societies of the past the ruling class consisted of… slave-owners. Under Feudalism it was the aristocracy and the lords who were entitled to the fruits of the work of their subjects. Under capitalism the ruling class consists of different capitalists (factory owners, bankers, land owners, etc.) who pay back only a fragment of their worker's output's worth (hence their profit).

So, after this clarification let's look at how Trump fits into the category "ruling class!"


Now you could say that he's still better than Hillary. In some ways, yes, in other ways no. But for that we need to look at Hillary's record.

Hillary

So let's look at Holla Forums's claims about Trump, contrast it to Hillary, and draw our conclusions
WRONG. Trump is a member of the elite, he profits from wage slaves, he is a predatory capitalist, no better than Hillary.
WRONG. Trump scammed thousands, exploited thousands, went bankrupt four times with a company founded on his inherited money.
WRONG. There's no difference between ruler1 and ruler2 under the system where they reign. Remember how Bill Clinton and Trump were best buddies before the elections, how they used to play golf all the time?
youtube.com/watch?v=Pv321j97tZo

How cucked can Holla Forums be?
We need a real worker's revolution!

plz, leftypol, comment, change my mistakes, and provide better text if you can, after we should post it
post similar ideas to the other themes
proposed pic attached

add this as well
youtube.com/watch?v=nVNQ13f4qzM

Tired? You should be able to refute it easily then.
That is the idea of these epic raid threads, isn't it? To discuss communism?

He already refuted it. But then again, if you could read, you would probably not be on 4/pol/.

HURRR STOP REDIFINING TERMS LEFTIES
YOU HAVE TO MEAN EXACTLY WHAT MY INSTINCT GUESSES YOU MEAN OR YOU'RE DE FACTO BEING DISHONEST
SAGED AND goreposted

uh oh, I think they're onto us
boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101359735

someone please do prop. 2. (I'm not memey enough for it)


Here's prop. 5.

Subject: Holla Forums is the new SJW
Body:
What is SJW?
"SJW" is a loose term to describe liberal cultural post-politics. Why "post-politics?" Because it doesn't address the real, economic issues 99% of the population faces on a daily basis. Why "cultural?" Because its focus is on limiting, adjusting, correcting how people behave, think, speak, without addressing the underlying, broader economic or social issues.

It utilizes a thing we call "identity politics." What is identity politics? Propagation of certain identities over others. How does it work? First, by ignoring the real antagonisms in society (class tensions, contradictions in the capitalist mode of production), second by locating an alternate, identity based site for said antagonisms: latinos, gays, trans people, etc.

By using the very same methods as liberals. Ignoring real problems, and focusing on identities, albeit with the opposite direction: whites over latinos, heteros over homos, etc. They don't even hide this fact:
youtube.com/watch?v=FSeZ4dU8COQ

What is to be done, then? First, real loci of popular struggle need to be detected. Poor blacks and poor whites share the same struggle, for instance, for a 15 dollar minimum wage. Unemployment is a systemic deficiency of capitalism, it doesn't make any sense and it has pathological consequences on all people regardless of their identities:
youtube.com/watch?v=J-fCRcT1D9s

From the POV of the system and it's ruling class, most of us are disposable. With more automation, more effective ways of production, under the current system most of the current generation will face dire consequences:
youtube.com/watch?v=KwzbbuQNtzo

The question, really, is how to move beyond the post-politics of Holla Forums's aut-right and reddit's SJWs, who basically utilize the same non-political scapegoating.

proposed pic attached

Winning hearts and minds tho:

The most fundamental flaw in Marx's theory of value is the premise that the value of goods is determined by their cost of production alone. This fallacy was pointed out as early as 1871 by Carl Menger, who observed that the value of a diamond is the same whether it was found by accident or whether it was found as a result of a thousand days of a miner's labour.

The model becomes even less robust in the context of the modern knowledge economy, where the commodity being traded is principally intellectual property. When I employ someone to write me an iPhone app, the value of it relates almost entirely to the demand which is subsequently generated for it. If I pay my developer $1500 to write the app and it takes him a week, then I promote it and sell it to a million people for a dollar each, was his labour worth a million dollars? Or was most of the value in the idea I had and my skill in selling it? If I fail to sell it at all, was his labour therefore worthless?


Was this Marx guy retarded? How can you people seriously think this is an alternative to capitalism?

There's a reason we still talk about Marx. And not Menger.

proposition for no. 4.

Subject: Capitalism isn't "here to stay"
Body:

Talking about socio-historical change can provide remarkably autistic responses on Holla Forums, while the fact remains, unchallenged: human societies, throughout their history, had different modes to organize labor, distribution of goods, hierarchies, and so on. This thread is about debunking the idea that there's such a thing as a constant, non-changeable "human nature" that overarches human history, and providing evidence that capitalism can not be the "final stage of human development" due to its inherent contradictions.

someone finish this

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should include: youtube.com/watch?v=T9Whccunka4

Motherfucking Nazi's. This is why we can't have nice things. Stop thinking with your dick.

Kek, some Austrist is taking screencaps of arguments and posting them there, but has no understanding of what he's posting and when challenged on it was like "I'm just copying and pasting".

What a fucking retard. A literal useful idiot.

youtube.com/watch?v=DWC_m-eIWO0
Did you get them all right? I'm guessing not.
Friendly reminder Smith and Ricardo did not mean "utility" when they said "value" as we do today
It's literally just a different way to bean-count production and is based on "socially necessary labor time"

"(…)the inevitable collapse of the capitalist mode of production which is daily taking place before our eyes to an ever greater degree (…)" Friedrich Engels - 1884

RESPOND, MODIFY, BRAINSTORM, COMRADES
& post, eventually

That's me lol. Don't have to be right, just fling enough shit that your opponent can't refute it all.

Hey guys, Holla Forums here glad you all are raiding. We could use some differing opinions.

I'm going to give you all some hints. The biggest problem you have is a total lack of consensus on communism. You need to be able answer to the question "Do I have to work? If so, who forces me?" in a consistent matter. If you cant answer that, you will always be a meme ideology.

Yes. Capitalism's collapse is inevitable

Marx proposed that only labour could add value. The corollary of this is that labour-intensive industries (such as the cotton mills of Victorian Manchester which so inspired Marx's work) should return higher profits than less labour-intensive industries, but there is no evidence to support this. Indeed, in the modern economy, and perhaps ironically as a consequence of Marx's work, the reverse is more likely to be true.

lmfao marx was a fucking moron

so inevitable it's taking 150+ years for that inevitability to show through

how hard will you cry when capitalism morphs into another shape again and cheats "its inevitable collapse"?

But that is fuck wrong

are you fucking retarded? he was talking about relative value between goods. profit occurs when capitalists take some of that value for themselves after leaving some scraps for the laborer.

OOPS there goes the rate or profit.

No one is going to force you to work in communism. When self realization is directly tied to your labor and no longer an imposition placed on the individual to justify their existence "work" will no longer be seen as a burden.

It is remarkable that all Communists turn into Fascist the moment they take power and have to deal the reality of the situation that they find themselves in.

Underlying all of this is Marx's prediction that profit will diminish over time and that capitalism is therefore a finite phase which must inevitably give way to something else. Here the premise is partly correct in that within any given industry, provided there is an effective level of competition, total profit will tend towards zero as the industry matures. However, this is actually the fundamental strength of capitalism rather than its weakness, because as mature industries become more optimized and less resources are required to fulfill production within them, the pursuit of profit will lead entrepreneurs to discover new opportunities and develop new industries.

how are people still falling for this dogshit ideology

No he doesn't, he never says capitalism has to inevitably go to "X or Y", his calls for the workers to make the "inevitable" shift was for populist purposes. You'll notice the fall in the rate or profit during the great depression after it had been trending downward for some time, and then the increase - this is what Marx referred to as creative destruction and has actually been incorporated into mainstream economics.
No profit, no investment, no jobs, and therefore crisis. Marx has been proven right, no one has been able to "fix" the reoccurring crisis he talked about. The neoclassical guys can't do it, the Keynesian guys can't do it. The falling rate or profit is just one of the contradictions that leads to this, though it's certainly the most major ones. A good example of the falling rate of profit is computer programs and IP rights - quite literally require no human labour to produce or redistribute. The result? Entrepreneurs clawing at each others throats over IP rights.

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pretty much sums up today's communists aswell

NEW COMMIE THREADS ON 4/POL/

PLEASE MONITOR, DEBATE, BUMP
boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101366859
boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101367077

Also, plz, someone expand this one and make it another thread, replying to this post:

No keep it to one thread and the current one isnt even bumplocked

read a book

Who needs boox when u can meme :DDDD
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Complete_Manual_of_Suicide

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Yes. These things take time.

Heres a starter book for you

Criticizing university students for being "brainwashed" for knowing more than you about how these things work, is not an argument.

You, just as well, could flip this on its head about neetsocs.

We just are in university having sex

There's no OC thread so I'm just going to post this here.

how can we refute NazBols and Asserists?

The opportunities are running out. That is why they have been focusing on selling immaterial goods to people, literally expanding into the imaginary in the absence of material opportunities.

NEW COMMIE THREADS ON 4/POL/

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101368850
boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101368850

read the op dude
threads not ours

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Why is it that every critic of Marx has never actually read Marx?

We need a thread completely dedicated to the LTV, since that seems like a major area of misunderstanding over there

Why did I get a 30 week ban for linking to a thread on 4chan? You guys need a safespace?

No we just love censorship

It's the communist way.

what thread faggot

Thread hit bump limit lads

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101373364

new thread

reported ;^)

It's actually the internet way if you weren't fucking new to the internet for the past 16 years.

If you aren't use to getting banned, you're a coddled little shit.

Grow up, get used to it, stop whining about what's commonplace everywhere but your little hidey hole

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101361644

Hasn't communism killed enough people already? Why do you want to kill more?

We haven't finished the job

Sounds like you need it friendo.

What did he mean by this

Munitions gold

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There are 2 threads up on 4/pol/ right now. Even though one of them is a split thread made by the kiwi pick one and leave the other to die. Do not let people split threads by posting 1 and only one of the threads here for us to use.

Why does communism appeal to edgy teenagers so much?

Why does Not Socialism appeal to edgy teenagers so much

Why does communism appeal to university educated students so much

if half pol mods dont delete your shit thread i will make a another and you will keep getting btfo Stay in your shit box here we will not allow you to subvert our board even when you have the halfpol mods on your side.

Stop being autistic and let people have their own opinions. You can't throw a tantrum until you get your way forever.

Oy vey, looks like we really got jew over a barrel here, goyim!

Stay mad kiwi

Old threads got deleted. Maybe mods are cracking down now?

New thread: boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101377724

Also yes keep making threads for us, keep playing yourself

Thread is right here boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101373364
chill out

Is it me or are threads not getting quite as shitposted as they were the other day

Raiding Holla Forums as if you'll ever successfully colonize. Kys, every last one of you.

No, the spice must flow.

How far gone do you have to be to spam 4chans Holla Forums in your free time?

not as desperate as making fake twitters

?

How far gone do you have to be this triggered?

Holla Forums does it all the time

listen you autist, if we made the entire board unusable, then it'd be a spam raid. One faggy general is not spam.
Jesus, why are people on political boards such fucking sissies?

Geez, I'm not even from Holla Forums. You guys need to chill out, you're just as bad tbh.

You don't have to be Holla Forums to be triggered at this

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Compare it to Trump's victory, first they are crying just because it happens, then they slowly accept the fact it exists. After a week or two they will probably get bored with posting le helicopter maym.

Their apathy will be their undoing

It's pretty funny to see that Aussie and Monaco sperging out.
I wonder where pinkos touched them.

It isn't middle ground. Holla Forums and Holla Forums are one and the same.

Meant for:

Muh horeshoe

No, just safespace, childish faggotry.

But he's right, both boards are autistic
Holla Forums sightly wins though

tbh a hippo with PMS has more subtlety.

Well hey maybe they can give Holla Forums.pl some more traffic it could use it

I didn't see any good Holla Forums shitpost in a while, good luck.

>>>Holla Forums

Would you prefer to live in China pre 1990 or post 1990?

Checkmate Comutards.

Sorry lads, your ideology is a meme.

Three different people, three different answers.

Prove China was ever socialist or communist.

And no, "they call themselves commies and their flag is red" is not proof.

But they already both retarded

I neither because Marxism-Leninism is fucking garbage

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Dude lmao it's almost like not all leftists share identical, carbon copied views

Fuck off. Keep away from 4pol.

stop it

Do you want some butcream for that rash?

I'm trying to tell you the weakest part of your threads. None of you will ever agree basic principles of communism and all of your ideas are dumb. It turns folks off. If you had one strong idea instead of many weak ones, you might do better.

If you want to do your propaganda, at least try harder.

You start off your posts as if the target audience is a bunch of apolitical workers that have no political views.

You need a different approach to convert fascists to your nonsense. Seriously.

We arnt there to convert fascists we are there for political discussion

or alternatively

lmao

he says, with a nazi flair. are you retarded?

really makes your neurons fire up

We don't use violence.

We use machinery to exterminate large groups of people.

Let the children play with bats and fists.

Since both Holla Forums and Holla Forums dislike a group that is very rich compared to the rest, when are we gassing the jews?

True, you use machinery to kill the defenceless and the unarmed. As soon as you face someone who can fight back, pic related happens

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Took you a very long time. We fought the world and it took you years to stop one army of spergs.

You're this bad. Sad!

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41-45 seems pretty short, considering it wasn't just the germs soviet union was fighting against.

nice meme

That's still violence you fucking tard

According to you :^)


Oh yeah, I nearly forgot the small country of mongoloids in the north that commies barely beat.

Nobody is this stupid. Stop replying to this guy.

keked lad.

Let's hear yours.

The only thing I'm getting from the general on Holla Forums is that they don't even have a basic understanding of leftism and have no desire to learn.

For the final victory yes, but it can be argued that the first sign Germany was inevitably fucked was when they failed to take Britain.

Also


Man, when you think about it, Nazi Germany was pretty garbage at anything that wasn't those early one-sided fights.

Operation Sealion was a stillbirth. Probably the most retarded invasion plan ever in the history of modern warfare.

a group or a person with established power.

Trump had the potential of political power thanks to his money, now he is going to have both.

The difference here is that Trump is ideologically opposed to the intents and views of the current elite, or at least he shows that he is… Whether he actually is or not is another question.


It's called shitposting lad. Plus a thread that goes on about how elite muh Trump is, will not get you any proper discussion.

So basically, the only factor determining if one's an elite is the opposition to the current elite? So now that Trump has the power, does that mean whatever candidate Dems will have next election will not be the elite?

So what you are saying is that Holla Forums got conned by someone who may be an elite?

Conned? No.

I ultimately don't speak for Holla Forums. But when it comes to Trump, he is not the ultimate saviour that will completely redefine american politics and destroy its elite. That's very unlikely to happen.

Why I support him is because of the movements and the energy that his presidency brought with itself. I'd be positively surprised if he actually did most of the more extreme things he suggested.

Answer my question dammit

Quads demand :^)

Partly. Compared to the poor the people that are in the opposition of the current elite, but still have the potential of being a part of it will look like the elite. But yes, ultimately the final step is going to be whether you are in opposition of the current ruling elite or not.

Only if he actually managed to replace the current elite.

fugg, wrong flag. Not sure how it changed.

Your definition of elite: a group or a person with established power.

Also notice how your definition is basically a recursion; it depends on an undefined 'current elite'.

This thread is already archived but it's interesting from an intel perspective:

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101362916


I don't know anything about Pewdie Pie other than he gets paid millions to play video games on youtube.

New Left General:

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101388570

?

Pretty sure that's more about what power itself is and where it comes from.

Anyone have some material on immigration and outsourcing as results of the contradictions of capitalism?

Just pulled these off image search:

business2community.com/content-marketing/dos-donts-outsourcing-content-creation-0695477

community.plu.edu/~econ331/policy/

This is pretty hilarious comrades. Don't stop until they are full commie.

looking more for a theoretical work i can review and take talking points from

Won't happen desu
At least I have a nice discussion with some fellow

HOLY FUCK
youtu.be/xcSmlSok32g

The Wage and Employment Effects of Outsourcing:  
Evidence from Danish Matched Worker‐Firm Data

princeton.edu/~ies/IESWorkshopS2009/HummelsPaper.pdf


Specialization, Outsourcing and Wages*
This paper studies the impact of outsourcing on individual wages. In contrast to the standard approach in the literature, we focus on domestic outsourcing as well as foreign outsourcing. By using a simple theoretical model, we argue that, if outsourcing is associated with specialization gains arising from an increase in the division of labor, domestic outsourcing tends to increase wages for both unskilled and skilled labor. We use a panel data set of workers in Danish manufacturing industries to show that domestic and foreign outsourcing affect wages as predicted by the theory.

ftp.iza.org/dp1907.pdf

Does Outsourcing Reduce Wages in the Low Wage Service
Occupations? Evidence from Janitors and Guards

irle.berkeley.edu/files/2008/Does-Outsourcing-Reduce-Wages-in-the-Low-Wage-Service-Occupations.pdf

It's not going to happen dude. Read the left general threads over there. They're a train wreck.

Simpler talking points but less jokey/sarcastic. Kindergarten Kommunism.

The Greek poster that's spamming walls of text - you're ruining the thread, its not helping.

This.

your ideology is arbitrarily named after "left" as an anachronism left over from the french revolution hahaha


kys

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intersectional Nazi here ama

Jesus christ this

No I won't stop. People are responding to it.

still butthurt, mr varoufakis?

No they aren't.

You got like two fucking replies mr proleopolous
one sarcastic and the other dismissive

Suck my dick people are responding and I'm not stopping.

try posting "N a t s o c"
they actually smugly autocorrect words theyre scared of here

I know lad. I think it's more memes tbh.

I'm an ethnic futurist myself, not a n a tsoc. The flag is more for the memes tbh.


natsoc

okay polnigger.

we actually accomplished exit
you let the troika and """investor confidence""" threaten you with crashing the dracma hahaha
after 2 plebiscites your far left party betrayed you, as they always do
nice gendered insult

maybe needs the dash haha.
yeah it's funny to see them so scared of something almost all the countries under their control inevitably are
because they've been told that nationalism = evil
and cannot be convinced otherwise

The greekposter is clearly a Holla Forums false flag
What he's spamposting is utterly irrelevant, its only purpose is to hit the bump limit and fill the screen with bullshit text like some filibuster

A FUCKING COMMUNIST LEAF

faggot

fuck you brit faggot


you're justt mad that I'm redpilling people and you're not

but you're literally posting faster than someone can read
your intent is pretty damn clear

they're reading it dude trust me

i'm not british hahaha
I'm your worst nightmare
I've read all your books and infiltrated the entire political spectrum worldwide, merely by shitposting at them
while your ideologies remain as sectarian, fractured, and nonsensical as they were in 1990

You're so fucking dense you're creating a strong gravity field around yourself.

I'm the singularity, correct.

left unity when?

pro-tip: never

fuck off

Historically it only happens when fascism rises or a country invades.

can you give examples please?
including meaningful definition of fascism?
or are you stuck in the 1930's

oh so you mean Not Socialism is unity?

haha fucking auto correcting leftypol cunts.

you think you scare me? *wields katana* come get some


what? that's important stuff

you can't handle the bantz when you autocorrect away the boogeyman Lelnin told you was VERY naughty, while his regime did same & worse

I'm an anarcho-capitalist
ama

How do you enforce the NAP without a state?

GET OUT OF MY CHAN COMMIES REEEEEEEEEEEEE

Who will build the roads

how do i invest in the baby market?

If I'm "stuck in the 1930s" that's probably because we haven't really seen many united fronts since then

The 1936 popular front in Spain, but, it was stopped by fascists
Front populaire in 1930s France, which crumbled
There was Unidad Popular in Chile but the CIA toppled them in 1973

As for fascism, see pic related.


What? Didn't say it was unity, just pointing out that the left generally does not cooperate unless under severe threat. Why the fuck would anarchists, Leninists and social democrats work together?

roads are haram

Authoritarian ethno futurist here, AMA.

you're terrified enough to raid a containment board for edgy teens while your own left party unmasks itself as another neoliberal EU puppet and buys into the "debt repayment" and "irresponsible government" meme, while the brits accused your people of being selfish, spoiled parasites
I do admire the Greek Left street team tho. far superior to most of the larpers. you guys actually don't fuck around. and GD are malakas.

what's your favorite arthur c clarke novel?

why authoritarian? ethno futurism is anti authoritarian or it's dead as any leftist excrescence of the 30's, such as Italian Faggotism, or German Imperialism

Ehh, I'm not too much into british futurism.

I preffer italian futurism.

italianfuturism.org/manifestos/foundingmanifesto/

Hori shito, and I though Holla Forums was a den of retards

I love you.

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What's the weirdest thing you've masturbated to?

:^)

gross lmao that's just larping as the literal current elite in the actual timeline we're currently on, except with more white skin

i'm spiritual egalitarian anti-multiculturalism. i think respect in difference comes from not merging us all into neoliberal worker drones. so i guess we're enemies lel.

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leftypol r real racists

they're just spamming the thread into oblivion

*shitposting*
ftfy

yet we come here to actually discuss ideas and you have none, just smug assertions of your own superior book-reading skills
we've read the same books and reached different conclusions morans

God, Holla Forums is pathetic.

I've definitely noticed more leftyposting on 4chin recently.
Keep it up guys.

why is 4chan derailing our raid threads, don't they know we've ALL read Capital volume III and it could really make them think about the base and superstructure and systematic contradictions, and how they DON'T apply to "leftism"s towers of shit

wew lad I didn't believe that screencap about one of you guys being a 4chan mod until now

hash tag: We ARE The Left

well? what was the post that got you banned?

I got warned for saying "Reported" which I knew was going to happen.

I got banned for actually reporting the "Marxism General" which was the same thread I posted in.

Sounds like you got banned for breakin rules then.

t. politically correct

Define spiritual.

That's far from it. The reason for such an odd goal is that this goal does not lead to where it claims to. You won't actually end up with such a society.

It is in itself a radical process towards a more dynamic and an organic society, not the past, but towards the _archaic_ base that you can have movement on.

Movement as in a progress like process. The differences comes in due to the cyclical view of history. it's not exactly progress, but rather a movement.

Yeah, no, the anticapitalists are totally the ones who toe the capitalist party line

When one thread causes Holla Forums to waste their entire day spamming it out of life

Ahhhh bliss

memes

Neck yourselves

Neck yourself

Been trying to understand Marx's idea. It seems communism is a concept and only, it never seems to even theorize future events after "Seize the means of production". What would stop warlords, dictators and just common human nature from destroying a socialist society. Marx doesn't quite answer the human nature question other than to just blame capitalism for the root cause of negative human nature such as greed, selfishness, laziness, living in excess and such.

The only answer you are going to get from Holla Forums is that muh human nature is a spook.

Nice comeback. You've no idea what you have unleashed.

Stop I can only take so much

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wow more falseflaggotry

That's why Communism without religion is doomed

Its that same kiwi fag wasting his time

I think this would be the best place to go really

youtu.be/dGT-hygPqUM?list=PL3F695D99C91FC6F7

We're not SJWs. We're basically the complete opposite.
Promoting """diversity""" solves nothing. It's a liberal goal, it's not one of ours.

Haha y-yeah, we t-totally are.

"To each according to his contribution" might be a good clue.

My friend, Marxism is Marxism. We'll never get anywhere if we adopt communism. Not Socialism is the only way, embrace it.

keep crying classcuck :)

Yeah, you guys are just into destroying the nuclear family and private enterprise

no thanks

Can someone tell me what's the deal with this mod connection? I was posting in the left general now, and everyone is saying the Holla Forums mods are in on it, and deleting/banning racists, and posting screenshots. is this true?

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and you're into strengthening those things. do you have a point?

Oh boy haven't heard that one before

That is my point. It's why distancing yourselves from SJWs isn't going to win us over.

But… it didn't collapse. Most of the time it was crushed or dismantled.

who said anything about winning you over? lol

We don't have to do anything, capitalism does the job for us ;^)

Barely existed for 150 years. Extended families are better. Stop falling for 1950s nostalgia.

Cancer that benefits nobody but bosses and the rich.

Seriously jannies, stop deleting their shitposts. It will only fuel their self-righteousness, and anyone with autoupdate won't even notice anyway. In the end, this censorship derails more than it helps.

It's actually nice to see how Holla Forums is mad about us using the same tactics, they used to take Holla Forums over in the first place.

Yup. A guy on the mod team at 4chan browsers leftypol. His name is Prickly_Cactus, and you can talk to him at [email protected]/* */ sometimes he is on IRC, but usually he doesn't come on any leftist channels. a while ago he his face got leaked and everyone made fun of him, but most people have forgetten, and he's been trying to clean up his web presence since then. He's really done a lot of work keeping the leftist presence visible, but I think he said his relationship with the head mods was getting strained over this.

Thanks, I'll take a look at these. Not to say I am for or against communism or capitalism, merely trying to understand these types of societies.

No

Either way, fuck you.


I'm not a fan of capitalism either. I'm a N A T S O C


Extended families and nuclear families then, sounds good to me.

mkay bud

Could you become useful and embark on autistic crusade against current mods instead?

Holla Forums and SJWs are the same idpol filth.
Both go
albeit with different meanings.

idpol, not even once.

not an argument :^)
see pic
brilliant retort!

Negative publicity is still publicity
They are now creating threads on their own.
Good job lads!

Like that Austrian painter who allied with the German industrial magnates like Krupp and Thyssen after he got to power?

Private enterprise under a planned economy is not quite capitalism

I'd rather have breadlines and rations than people starving tbqh

private property is the fundamental tenet of capitalism

there will always be charity

Or else Communism becomes your religion.

okay

Sure. And Not Socialism means properly regulating capitalism

the nuclear family is pretty economically inefficient and socially damaging. not sure why it should be preserved.

why would socialism ever have arisen if not for the alienation people feel from being dispossessed?

regulated capitalism is still capitalism. how are you "not a capitalist" again?

Show me a better alternative

Jews


Okay, fine. If you want to argue semantics then I have no problem with regulated capitalism.

oh cool. so this statement (>>1112693)
was either a mistake or just an outright lie then

quality thread, it'd definitely end up in interesting and worthwhile discussion.

Both socialism and communism existed before Marx, you'll have bigger luck blaming the Frenchies and maybe Brits

Holla Forums was never a "safe space" you dumb fuck. Every week some group of cucks comes along and thinks it'd be so clever and original to try to infiltrate Holla Forums and turn it into an -insert ideology here- board. What you idiots don't realize is that it just causes the natives to double down on their beliefs and become even more radicalized.

Moreover, half of the raiders end up becoming red-pilled themselves because Holla Forums embodies the expression of truth in its rawest, most uncomfortable form, in a way that no other place on the internet or in the real world can do. Anyone who is not deeply brainwashed will not be able to resist objective reality.

My bad, too many windows open and I got confused when I went to get the image.

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STOP ABUSING THIS WORD YOU RETARDS
IF I SPAM THE BOARD INTO OBLIVION UNTIL ITS UNUSABLE, THEN IT'S A RAID
A SINGLE ACTIVE THREAD AT A TIME IS NOT A RAID
FUCKING NEWFAGGOTS

Also
Fun fact, many people here are former Holla Forumslacks, so stop with those delusions of grandeur.

The roleplaying you faggots are getting into is cringeworthy, reddit tier

Sure. People like me who just come here to take the piss out on all you useful idiots.

Wow yeah i saw Holla Forumsyps express a ton of truth in the lefty gen

Nope

Expect that one time, where a bunch of cucks actually succeeded and turned Holla Forums into a wretched hive, I mean stormfag paradise.

And if that don't work, then reports will do, because free speech is only applied when it suits you.

You mean the one that the mods deleted because they're afraid of people being exposed to said truths?

irony lost on you it seems

At some point you have to recognize that we're not dealing with a "market" of ideas but an ecosystem. Moreover, one in which the selective pressures don't coincide with "more true" "more rigorous" etc.

Talking about this?

Yes, but that was sarcasm
The point being, they had literally nothing to say. It was all empty rhetoric and groupthink. It was all focused on suppressing different views

4chan Holla Forums is very much a market of ideas. Selective pressures coincide with having a thick skin and not holding easily debunked ideas (oops, there go all the commies).


I saw some debating going on in there. How exactly do you suppress other views?

He comes to tell us the truth?
What it is, we don't know for he is withholding it for some reason.
I'd like to know it though. What kind of word combination is so powerful that it will turn us all instantly into classcucks, I wonder?

If you haven't read this then you cannot claim to know the truth about your own ideology.

lmao just lmao

yes, i bet you have a lot of tears for celebrated dissidents like solzhenitsyn. too bad you don't feel the same way about most of the population of latin america

epic, simply epic

God forbid you read a book written by a guy who lived under a communist system and experienced its tyranny first-hand.

You commie kiddies crack me up. Just like identity-politics lefties, you spend all your energy ignoring facts and reality, leaving no time left to formulate coherent and logically consistent ideas.

You obviously haven't read the book if that's what you think it is…

1112792
KEK
Are you going to post the black book of communism next or

yes, 20th century russia was famous for its being a stateless, classless, moneyless society.

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Yep, can confirm.
Does 4/pol/ still have libertarian, christian, or space elevator threads? or it has all gone away on the wave of NEETsocs and /r/the_donald?

reminder that solzhenshitsyn was friends with David Duke

lel

But it's not. That's the point. People in those threads continuously demonstrated ignorance of the most basic ideas, and argued against strawmen.
Bias confirmation, the illusion of consensus, a 15 second post timer, a massive number of users, a resulting discourse style that favors soundbites over substance, etc all create certain external conditions on which ideas may be successful and influential, as well as influence the composition of the audience for these ideas (and thus their receptivity.)

Fuck's sake, you don't even understand EVOLUTIONARY THEORY well enough to understand the analogy.

Right-libertarian and Christian threads pop up occasionally.

You have to go home, my double-digit friend.

I did. The extended family

Ah yes. Those darn Jews, Henri de Saint-Simon, Charles Fourier, Etienne Cabet, and Robert Owen.

Your reply: case in point

Literally "you just don't understand mannnnn" the post.

brilliant argument. stop embarrassing yourself

It's not our fault you're too retarded even for fucking wikipedia.

you know you are right there can never be a state that is communistic because the state is diametrically opposed to communisim

Congratulations, you understand that one of requirements to classify a society as communist is statelessness, good job.

fucking lol what the hell are you even trying to say?

who distributes the wealth if there is no state?

Reminder that this is another perfect example of what passes for discourse on Holla Forums, subject to these confounding influences
Notice how "you didn't read the book" is perfectly acceptable when he does it. The meme applies equally well to "you obviously didn't understand MY book or you didn't read it" and "you obviously don't understand even the most basic parts of marxist theory," but he will apply it to only one of these cases, along the lines of his preconceived and socially reinforced beliefs, and without a hint of cognitive dissonance, suggesting a pathological lack of self-awareness

Okay, here's a question for Holla Forums since they are crashing on our couch:

What interest do the Jews have in supporting communism when it aims to abolish private property and all of their supposed puppet strings?

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If I remember correctly, the argument is that they want to establish a global dictatorship over goys by fooling them into utopia and them unleashing 1000 years of darkness. I have no idea how does Luxemburgism work for such argument, but I did not hear about that obscure shit until I became a lefty myself

Not a Nazi but I think the line is communism is a side effect of critical theory and critical theory's goal it is to weaken the western world enough to prevent another holocaust.

Remember that Lenin was sent into Russia by Germany in order to undermine Russian WW1 war efforts. It was entirely successful.

[citation needed]

Whats the current thread you guys?

this is equivalent to saying there can never be a "true" anarchist monarchy and using this as an argument against anarchism

history.stackexchange.com/questions/14608/did-the-germans-purposefully-arrange-to-send-lenin-to-russia-to-start-a-revoluti

are you saying that guys who created critical theory invented a time machine and altered the past about a century before a holocaust happened

I believe we are talking about current-day Jews supporting communism. Again I am not a nazi and do not actually think this, just reporting what I've heard.

Then at least say "it will never happen hurr" instead of talking about the nature of marxism as if you knew jack shit about it

how embarrassing for you

Marx explicitly rejected utopianism

This.
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1880/soc-utop/

Just because he recieved support does not mean he was Germany "sent" him.

wtf I hate communism now

There is no current thread, lad. We've packed it up and sued for peace.

P-please be gentle with our buttholes, Holla Forums

why don't you learn the definition of communism before you try to talk about it from a position of authority?

Sure, they didn't "send" Lenin in the sense that he was a secret German agent, but he German government specifically arranged safe passage for Lenin in order to weaken Russia's war readiness. This is pretty common historical knowledge - the Germans also sent millions of dollars in support of the Bolsheviks.

A group might be doing the same - supporting communism - in order to weaken the west.

k

Yeah but did you ever learn anything about it or were you just LARPing
Not understanding that Marx broke from the utopian socialists is a very, very poor sign, to say the least.

guess you didn't do a lot of reading back then. or today

What do you think? Direct capitalist subversion or the triumph of bourgeosie ideology within these attempts.
It is surprising that you never absorbed any iota of knowledge regarding the subject in your edgy teenage years.

proofs?

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Trust me guys it will work this time!!

And how much commie theory did you read? :^)

Alright what are you then?

Notice now how the same tendency outlined here occurs again -- communism is precisely what he says it is, damn asking the communists, while he asserts that "not all non-communist ideologies are fascism," with a straight face no less!

You must of gained your political opinion form certain influences mind

from*

wow you're such a special snowflake

kek

2 E D G Y

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alright lad you can drop the ruse now you're one of the locals trying to get a rise out of your comr8s

Freudcigar armchair diagnosing on an online venue again.

PROTIP: Shitposting passes for discourse on any *chan venue.

not on here though
slow intellectually specialized boards are pretty resistant

enjoy your permaban for evasion, retard

Truthist, apparently

Hm. Really makes my cranium filling churn.

Maybe you should post more than shit pic then?
I saw them getting banned on Holla Forums too.

At least try to have a discussion? Or did you lose the art?

he was saying that Holla Forums was complaining at the mods I think

I'm not even him and my post was supposed to be in support of Holla Forums

k

This is extremely stupid. Holla Forums will come here and shit on this place. We need to stop this.

says the retard from a board that advocates race segregation and white nationalism

lel

that is the daily battle between tankies and anarkiddies

Due to your spergout they have a common cause to unite behind, though, so thanks for that.

How do we save them from themselves?

TANKIES BTFO YET AGAIN

God, the memes burn like hot iron sometimes

I honestly thought /leftpol/ would have stayed by and large away from 4/pol/ after being so butt blasted and locking down discussion threads after the last big "debate" with mee-toe-core kek

youtu.be/QIAMZPHgKKg

the lesser bad guys won yes

It was actually Ultra-Nationalist.
It was actually Ultra-Reactionary.

And Hitler was Nazism.

TheMoreYouKnow.gif

And people say anarchists are critical of anti-communist ideology.

really makes the information transmitting cells travel rapidly inside of my neurocranium as a result of electrochemical processes caused by intake of this new information

what did he mean by this

easy, nations are a spook, they destroy the individual

This is only shocking if you believe the good-versus-evil narrative that has never applied to real life.

Britbongs were spooked as fuck and loved Hitler until he tried to take over their island. The Allies did not try to appease the Nazis, they tried to bring them into the international fold.

Lmao. That graph says nothing about communism.

wtf I'm an anfem now ;~;

Market deregulation.

China is more capitalist than communist. The elite are very much at home, there.

Yes, I know.

I go on there sometimes. We should set up an embassy
The need for original replies means people will engage and not spam

Sir, while you have the time, my shilling check didn't come last month... Can you take care of that?

How does the seizing of the means of production work in service economy?

I know that no one will care but 8ch /tg/ is finally completely cucked by Trumpdrones. I said that I hated both Clinton & Trump equally and got a very long ban for being "from leftypol". Keep in mind that I don't really like either political board, although you guys at least seem willing to talk rather than hand out bans. This board is definitely the bogeyman for the rest of the site, as soon as you mention anything slightly critical of US conservatives you're "from leftypol" and therefore evil. Jesus. Some kid probably half my age, banning me because I dislike politicians. Utterly ridiculous.
I'm just upset, /tg/ is my hobby and I hate seeing it finally taken over by MSM idpol. I've been around since the beginning of halfchan and I gotta say that I don't really understand the internet any more. I'm wondering if I should just get out completely.

Lol, the intelligentsia for you. These people actually think they should run a country.

You'll never win btw, leftism is a permanent shell game, it's Scotsmen all the way down.

This boards bogeyman status is completely deserved. You can thank these epic raids for that.

If it's a capitalist country, it means the workers have more rights & money to use in the economy.


Just remember to spoiler porn & you're fine.. I've been here or over a year & got my first ban yesterday because i forgot to. Otherwise, I love this place. Especially after dealing with normies & actual CTR on reddit(during the primaries), it's so nice to be able to come here & speak my mind. As you can see by this thread, too, Holla Forums is also welcome. Unless you completely run amok, you have nothing to worry about.

I haven't checked out /tg/ but I'll have a look.

Also, the ban was only for 2 hours though, so I was fine with that.

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That shit's happened to Holla Forums

Most of the people who browsed that board one or two years ago have moved on to lainchan after Holla Forumstards started trashing it with their usual song and dance.

It's not a raid, first of all. We're not spamming them. Secondly, this never happens. Holla Forums always accuses us of raids when it's them posting threads for it sometimes, but no one ever responds. This is a political board, not a raid haven.

Holla Forums still sperging out

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101771854

rly meks u think

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This whole thread is a coordinated attempt to either subvert, or troll a board of another website. It is a raid.

Subverting is raiding?

Oh well.

hahaha

hi CIA

I just wanted to discuss politics on Holla Forums. Used to be a regular before I moved here for comfy slow /a/.

Why are your parents allowing you to access the internet without supervision?

Is there any acronym you won't accuse people of being?

LGBTTQQIAAP

Don't worry, man, loads of people came here after seeing Holla Forums consuming everything.
Hell, there was a thread some weeks ago about how Holla Forums killed /r9k/ and practically forced the board owner to quit because he wasn't right-wing.
Also, no one here likes Clinton, and you can even talk badly about Sanders or Stein, even if they have some supporters here

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why should I read that?


Seriously though, the raids worked when it was ML general and you could actually act edgy and meme.
going in there to yell "not real communism" is pretty sad and maybe even counterproductive.
most 8/pol/yps we got became NazBols and Tankies.
I already fucking debunked this like thrice. You don't measure a planned economy in the country's currency you dipshit.

Holy shit, Austrian economists really are mathematically illiterate. I don't think that guy even took real analysis.
S E P A R A B L E M E T R I C S P A C E

oh my god
never change leftypol i love you

First the class struggle, then the materialism, then the spookbusting.

Let's see how this plays out

FULLY AUTOMATED

When was the last time the right won anything more than Reagan and Thatcher?

Not since the 1930's because even the United States had to annihilate German civilians like dogs

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Our candidate in the United States won just this year.

Eh i mean not until the japs bombed pearl harbor without declaring war buddy
The bourgeoisie tends to try and protect its own interests. Liberal politics had nothing to do with it

Yes

Really shaking things up, Change We Can Believe In 👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

So the Asian one decided to play nice? :^)

First World killing massive amounts of First World is always entertaining because of the extreme amount of tears you'll get for families who did nothing in their lives compared to actual workers who aren't European.

It's schadenfreude.

Asian isn't even a nationality

You believe in white as an overarching concept that's in peril like you're an endangered species

Stop treating yourselves like animals

It's workers that fight and die in these wars, not the porkies that decide to have them.
"First world" is an essentially meaningless affiliation

So the US isn't right wing as fuck?

Just wait until the next Mao comes around, then we'll see who's laughing about megadeath

Or are you Japanese? The things you did to Chinese POW's, holy fucking shit.

Korean? Nice hatred of women AND SJW's AND confirmed Illuminati president AND Communist troll state

Indonesian? Nice US-backed slaughter of "Communists"

Its voting base is, it's power structure is largely neoliberal.

If you think Trump and his cabinet are anything but neoliberal, here's advice, stop getting into politics if you've made it your job is not know politics

I am they're a shit band


I can't tell whites apart either, it's ok.


Holla Forums

Everything's changing. So nothing's changed.

👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌

she literally is tho

donut steel

You're pretty obnoxious huh? How is neo-liberalism not a right wing as fuck ideology? The very premise of it is rolling back the state and privatization.

You'll see.

Without trying to sound like a le wrong generationer I really do miss the 4chan of old (2006-08)
There's only so much I can take of regurgitated trump pepes with the words "MAGA" spammed over and over. It would be fine if it didn't leak into every other board accessible. It's final steps to achieving reddit status aren't far away at all.

Trump will literally try to emulate Reagan like every other fucking Republican and you'll worship his feet like every other Democrat worshipped Obama "owning republicans"

You got invested in an election season you're more predictable than you are predictive

Now you're getting the hang of it faggot

Rootless cosmopolitan then? Nice identity.

I'm sure poor white people will come around when they see what you think of them as you parasitically leech off their heritage, while being too ashamed to even name your own. I'll be making sure to let them know.

You're as predictable as Trump.

She's illuminati dude


That's not really funny because you're throwing the person you're felating under the bus

Enemies can also be friends.

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Don't get me wrong I love Trump, and his daughter Yael.

העלא ברודער. ברוכים הבאים צו די ניו וועלט אָרדער

Why must you insist on mischaracterizing the situation? Is myopia embedded into your genome or something?

How am I mischaracterizing a neoliberal politician

Did I hurt your feelings by insulting him.

There's a ton of jokes to make about him. I think the funniest being he has a sexless marriage and his wife doesn't want to stop at sleeping in separate beds, she wants to live in Trump Tower while he lives in the White House

👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌

My feels!

This is what you think Trump is like

Well I'm Australian, so no.

You shouldn't admit this about yourself. You have more incest than the United States South does

This is what you think Trump looks like.

bitch, please

Yeah he kind of does look like that autistic blonde kid in class who wouldn't stop riffing on movies outloud like high school was MST3K

I'm sorry that you hate MST3K so much.

I'm sorry you disrespect yourself and MST3K that much. I'm sorry you were that blonde kid.

Sorry, I'm not sorry.

what? You suggested that the right hasn't had much progress since the 80s, but policy in the US and Europe has been neo-liberal (thatcherite) ever since. You're taking right to be nationalist aren't you? Nationalism is a rational defense against globalised neo-liberalsim. Go fist yourself.

That's exactly what I meant, yes. Learn to read for understanding.

The far right hasn't really advanced to the levels their voting base crave and never will, they'll give them flavors of Capitalism until they're drowning in pig cum and enjoying it.

lol

kek.

Nationalism will save our farm mom lol

Ahh right, so as ever more concerned with denying the far right than fighting the current system. Well enjoy that one. Sure we're heading ever closer to neo-serfdom, but at least its not these nasty nationalists right?

Did you forget to switch trip?

no you're right serfdom won't be so bad if the aristocracy have the same skin color I do

I'm not denying the far right at all. I'm telling you they're telling you what you want to here and you get played hook line and sinker every god damn time every election for anti immigration/minority patriotic posturing that sends the base nuts

Then 4 or 8 years later when the economy tanks you either stay hard right or go liberal

Same shit every god damn decade.

You get fed into a different far right chopping block and you'll probably deny it to the end, but that's being optimistic about your convictions.


No I was mocking hicks.

You mad I know more about your country than you do, helped elect a president you detest, for reasons you can't even begin to understand.

You so bad at politics you think a dog whistle's a meal ticket.

So solly you got unrucky on the bell curve, interesting fact: a lot of You People are actually smarter than the average white Holla Forumstard.

I'm not Korean, Chinese, or Japanese

But like I said it's fine because I can't tell whites apart. It's a common misunderstanding.

Keep guessing though dude. You'll learn a lot about Asian culture just by talking to me and posting the covers to singles from the 00's

So none of the ones that matter. Huh.

Try to add some arguments to your posts.

why is this happening?

Autists trolling autists

lol(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

Who gives a shit about Austria but Holla Forums

Most people don't even understand the market lmfao

their "free market" with Keynesian characteristics is crumbling. They'll change their minds soon.

You're replying to a tankie fyi. Just thought you should know I guess

"Free-market" with state owned sectors and a healthy government package to bail out corporations and banks when they fuck up

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The Asian one apparently got unbanned. Couldn't help themselves.

The Chinese understand their rising standard of living.

This was the first time I put on a trip

The Chinese understand basically what the State feeds them about their standard of living.

I know. But you'd said you were Asian before. You weren't using a trip when banned.

I was banned for three days or less and I just did something else and came back

it takes two to tango fucker why do you keep coming back

could pol get more illogically spooked?

There is only one White. Possibly also includes Japanese, the jury's out on that one thus far.

I wasn't even replying to you. That's someone else.
Activity is good for the board, but the smugness may run off new people & it brings down the threads in general.

lol(USER WAS CHEKA'D FOR THIS POST)

will the smug fucking hipsters please stop coming to my board

please I mean come on

It's not the smugness, it's that you're grievously unfunny.

amazing what you can do when you can print a global reserve curreny

why are weebs so right wing? fucking weirdos

oh fuck

I already posted that though.

I would think anyone who is on a board for discussing politics would have a stubborn ideology. Sounds like a waste of time.

I like to think of myself as the Sarah Silverman of leftypol

They desire a world where they are rewarded and experience the pleasures denied them by a failing economy and sick society and anime provides it to them vicariously.

Why do you think harem anime is so popular despite being almost complete garbage?

Not ashamed to admit I've fapped to Mercedes Carrera multiple times

Sarah Silverman has been nude in movies before so if you want to be the Sarah Silverman of Holla Forums you need to post nudes

I was joking you fucking idiot

You have to do it.
It's the law.

Wouldn't be the first time I broke the law

y-yeah i was just j-joking too…

Take it from personal experience you would have better luck with white women. If they can pretend to be bi in their college years to become straight later in life they can probably show their tits off more easily.

Most are basically neckbeard level horny.

Describe this personal experience.

Why isn't this AnFem banned yet? Shit like this prevents anybody from coming here except other shitposters.

It's ridiculous considering for what petty shit you get banned on Holla Forums recently.

Salty milk and coins

What kind of discussion is going on in this thread

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leave anfem alone you fucking mra.

Hey, buddy

Who the fuck are you calling stinky

Yeah I vote let the anfems stay, they really liven this place up

What the fuck? Why are you promoting identity politics?

I couldn't have said it better myself

You :3

I assume the girls here are sweaty stinky NEETs

If only..

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A liberal traitor. Sounds accurate.

I have been on image boards most of my life and I am surprisingly feminine and not stinky

That being said if I was the opposite sex I'd probably be a neckbeard

that'sthejoke

Pics or gtfo

Just find the political cat girl lady's twitter she's pretty cute.

If you want ugly/crazy bitches just go to the women who post on 8pol regularly. Women in leftism shouldn't be that shocking. Statistically multiple people with a cunt are here posting user.

How does it feel to be a hundred times smaller than 4chan's Holla Forums?
How does it feel to get roasted in every single thread?
Why don't you just give up? It would be easier for you.

Honestly pretty great. Irony aside, pretty great.

why do women have it so easy

my life would've been better as a female

I wouldn't call mindless shitposting getting "roasted"

wtf i'm a leftist now

commies really remind me of another set of people I don't like too much

I do feel bad for having dfab muh privilege

We're a big board, for you.
Aside from that, Farage is pretty badass, walking away from a plane crash with several broken vertebrae.

People who steal? You're thinking of Capitalists

Walking away with several broken vertebrae would be impressive to a board full of nerds who got swirlied their whole life

It's not really that, more to do with gender roles and how society treats men

Look, mate. I don't care how much propaganda you have injected into your soft head (as Yuri Bezmenov would put it), but Communism has never worked, and will never work.
Pinochet saved Chile, and you can see the residue of communism still, in all post-commie countries.

I wouldn't even want to be as ironic as you're being right now

anfem posters to the killing fields when?

Your biggest achievement is getting out of the bed each morning, lard-ass. Or do you shitpost from the bed? God, the mere imagination of the smell makes me gag.
The best use you'll ever be to the world is buying more junk food to get fatter even more quickly. I'd feel sorry for your dad, but he probably wasn't the type to stick along very long.

none of them are willing to take my virginity though, so, in my opinion (opinions cannot be wrong) they do not exist

I'm a woman remember I can just talk my way out of everything in life

Tru

Are you claiming it was't mindless shitposting or that we shouldn't be surprised for getting nothing other than that?

I'm hard, keep going.

Capitalists steal?
Funny, I thought using the arms of the government to take wealth from productive citizens to be redistributed among the unproductive citizens would be robbery.
On the other hand, pure capitalism (not this Keynesian bullshit which is still way better than comemeism) promotes no taxation and a society where every individual provides for themselves.
Commie logic.

Those pesky unproductive citizens. Maybe we should have an uprising against them.

I don't know what to say, my xir.

Yes.


Keeping a population of unproductive citizens incapable of producing for themselves is robbery.

What do you classify as productive anyhow

The rich are NEETs, never worked a day in their lives

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Why an uprising? My, you commies really din du.
No, just have them not pay taxes to a state which clearly doesn't care about them, leaving them money to spend on shit that they actually want to spend it on.

Are you stupid or something

wew lad

you faggots would have sunk years ago if not ripping resources off africans
kys

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You really are autistic, aren't you.

I admit I'm a degenerate I win

knowyourmeme.com/memes/subcultures/anarcho-capitalism

Both, really.
Look, mate. Stop leaking out of your containment board, or we'll call uncle Addy and he'll weld the septic tank back together.
If communism is so great, why do millions of people try to flee it? Why did commies have to secure their borders not from the outside, but from the inside?

top kek

This is what Holla Forums takes for jokes

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YOUR TEARS ARE BETTER THAN THE FREE MARKET

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No. Kein argument.
Just when I thought I couldn't find common ground with you. Yes, government regulations are robbery.
Productive means generating wealth. For themselves, their family, hell, even their 🍀🍀🍀community🍀🍀🍀 if they want - their loss.
You're thinking of Jews, aren't you?

what are you talking about friendo?
I thought we were having fun?

All those productive people behind Derivatives

I'm crying

heh heh, kiddo, thought you had me cornered
*unsheats katana*
*teleports behind you*
I'm seizing your means of reproduction, better luck next time

What a horrible night to be on Holla Forums

youtube.com/watch?v=rj7iRwzX-A0

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Holla Forums has literally never made a decent refutation of Marxism

I'm pretty sure they called it Jewish several times, you're mistaken.

watch it goyim

Did I just teleport to proto-ironic ages

Actual political/random discussion.

Are you going to end the year having had sex once

I'M STARVING OVER HERE, YOU CAPIGALIST!

best thinking I've enjoyed in weeks.

The only thing Pinochet decently threw out of a helicopter was Chile's economy hahahahahahahahaha

let's talk about that kym link

Not going to lie, former Trump supporter here.
It's hilarious watching him get BTFO by Hilldawg.
How will DRUMPF ever recover?
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You're talking about unfunny jokes as a Holla Forums poster

Translation:

Your entire ideology revolves around crying about the government's "theft" in the form of taxes. But capitalists don't steal, now?

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You are less funny than I am

Yeah, i take that back. I posted that before I saw ancap shitting the bed. It's better, now.

In capitalism, the best memes are determined by the markets on which they are propagated on.
Which is why you won't see Holla Forums memes on Holla Forums outside of DESIGNATED SHITPOSTING THREADS.

Are you actually trying to sound like the pbs ideas channel right now

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You're definitely new here.

have you met stirner pal?

leave my thread

don't you say so

If you're too broke to pay for your boss's salary, why don't you workers pool together, buy the mine, and dig gold as an association?
In laissez-faire capitalism, there's nothing stopping you.
Also, ain't no Starbucks 200 feet under.

what


There are no cliche bosses anymore.

;~; I didn't know how else to say it. i hate that that is a meme.

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Stop talking in the third person.

we can just take the mine, we ain't paying shit.

yeah, that'd be great.

Hopefully you'll catch up to my posts about your ignoring of economic critique & how you're now claiming taxes suddenly aren't theft to you.

well you see there's this thing called contracts that binds people together into a relationship of sorts
not that an unemployed commie would know anything about a contract or God forbid… a job or a working class

You don't have to explain economics when you have a high school level understanding of it.

whut

Speak for yourself, pleb. I'm having a blast.

Nobody is laughing with you.

Having a blast having your ideology broken down & shown to be full of logical holes?

I don't think about Jews too often. I don't have a dirty mind.

show me one

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nice.

non-aggression is pacificism,
have fun complying with absolutely everything

get a load of this good goy

The simplest refutation would be that it's theft. State is inefficient, and free labourers' associations are corrupt and I've yet to hear about a successful one. Also, see my previous posts, there should be something there about prosecution of ordinary people.

A man is walking across a desert and has no water he realises he won't make across without dying from dehydration. A salsesman drives by in a truck loaded with water bottles. "I will give you a bottle of water if you work as my slave " The man has no choice and must choose to sign this contract of fear of losing his life
You see the idea of mutually binding contracts are hilarious when you ignore bribery

pls don't insult us virgins we're not all ancaps

what happened to your trip? Anons get out.

I didn't imply shit you paranoid maniac.

The level of high school we're on here is just sad.

This isn't even community college econ and polysci

fammm

salesman*

So no Jew has anything worthwhile to contribute or intelligent to say, automatically? You're serious?

Hey ancap faggot, what's your opinion on pedophilia?

off my fucking thread.

and on speeding

uh oh

Yeah you're not funny is what I'm saying

i bet men stand in bread lines to eat your taco

pretty much everyone in this chan has CP on their pc tbh. There's a reason we're off google.

yeah, that's why Chile is a shithole and Venezuela is thriving

Not true.

you're talking about unfunny jokes when your life is an unfunny joke

I'm sure rothbard and friedman wouldn't try trick you

chile is pretty shithole-ish. I traveled there in march.

It's actually why Chile fell behind Uruguay if you want to be accurate

eh, pretty sure I refuted it somewhere
shitposting ain't easy

I'm not talking about, I'm talking with one right now

If you have CP on your PC, you deserve gulag, or the wall.

Yo lemme give you a run down nigga

1) A note about Pinochet: After taking power, Pinochet introduced free-market policies envisioned by the "Chicago Boys" a group of laisez-faire Chilean economists educated in America. These policies (which included privatizing the fucking fire department) were so disastrous, that Pinochet himself fired them. In fact, prior to Pinochet, under democratic socialist president Salvador Allende, Chile had the best health care & education in South America and a strong middle class. theguardian.com/commentisfree/cifamerica/2010/mar/03/chile-earthquake 2) Venezuela's economic troubles have very little to do with socialism. It's roots can be traced to the Venezuelan banking crisis of 1994 under then president Rafael Caldera, when 17 out of Venezuela's 49 commercial banks failed and had to be taken over by the government (sound familiar?). The crisis happened because oil (which Venezuela kinda lives & dies by) prices fell. Up to 31% of Venezuela's GDP was spent on the bailout, & the economy got completely fucked because of it. Venezuela's socialist policies came later under president Hugo Chavez to help combat this, but by then there was only so much that could be done. Here's a contemporary article: nytimes.com/1994/05/16/us/failure-of-high-flying-banks-shakes-venezuelan-economy.html?pagewanted=all 3) Pre-revolution Cuba is a great example of capitalism? WHAT?!?!?!?!? Okay, first of all, the statement "Cuba before the revolution had one of the highest per-capita incomes in Latin America" doesn't mean much.The average per-capita income in all of Cuba—including upper-class Havana and Santiago de Cuba—was six dollars a week. In addition to all the corruption & despotism associated with the Batista regime, here are some other lovely little facts about capitalism in Cuba: * Only 4% of Cubans had meat in their diets. *Under 3% had eggs. * Only 1% had fish - ON A FUCKING ISLAND!!!! * Only 11% had milk. * Only 4% had bread. * 64% had no toilets. * Only 2% had indoor toilets. * Only 3% had running water. Magic of the free market, everyone!!!!

Completely deflecting the argument against Pinochet destroying the economy.

No, you have not, anywhere.

Seriously though, what do you think about speed limits in highways?

I swear you anons need to leave.

It's you who has to leave

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Anons need to fucking leave.

I've already explained how capitalism isn't theft.
You have a contract which you can negotiate.
If it's shit and you can't change it, you start your own business (lmao ancap) or association.
Oh, the regulations are too strong? WELCOME TO THE ANCAP FIELDS MOTHERFUCKER

wow, only 50% of the billionaires in USA are Jewish

By that logic, you also have a "contract" with the government. in exchange for your citizenship & what that affords you, you pay taxes.

You gave us a high school econ course. We already know how this all works.

aww, little romcommie is mad because his safe space is violated
get a load of this book

Please refer to

Your entire ideology ignores reality. You live in some fantasy world where anything is possible, no matter how desperate your economic condition & regardless of a lack of education.

What the fuck

nah, I'll pass
you sound a lot like the People's Communist News Network though mate

Have you actually read that pdf?
i'm being serious here

They still refuse to address Pinochet's economic disaster as well…

mate, i have never shitposted this hard
have some commie cunt poofter cunt sympathy for a beginner

You can't pass on what you already did.

never happened

Just because something isn't coerced doesn't make it voluntary. The laws of supply and demand totally eliminate any negotiating power the worker has, since capitalism deliberately ensures that labour supply vastly outstrips demand. The worker then is given the choice between starvation or exploitation, with very little capacity to negotiate. This isn't a free or voluntary arrangement.

Then stop shitposting & actually take a minute to think & reply seriously. This is your own doing for memeing so hard.

Chile is behind Uruguay because of him

Uruguay

pathetic

Oh, well if you say so. Don't take the time to address it, just ignore it.

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Stirner supported selfishness, correct?
Sounds breddy based to me, even with the whole boycott tyrants meme.
To adress your first image, though - claymores and Recreational™ Nuclear™ Missiles™ care about neither guns nor numbers.

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please promise that after this you'll never come back.

Bastiat is bae.

You haven't answered my question, whether it was about cooperative gold-mining (doesn't sound half bad, desu) or about Gary's nose up your ass.

heh

More like child sex slaves

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I figured that was part of the joke

Stop watching porn.

literal dindu mentality
"mup poo didda he ain gibusdat we gon beatisass nigga"

Mind repeating them to me?
You're too many and too insignificant.

so rood.
also this

Please, for the love of God, take your terrible memeing back to whatever place you came from.

If you're going to be here, try to make an actual argument.

Here you go:

why are no fun allowed Anonymoose still in my thread?

That's not fun; it's idiocy, lazy & shits up threads. Deserves to be shamed.

And this ain't your thread, tankie. On that note, do you understand what that flag represents or did it just look cool to you?

Going to reply this way, you're not worth the 5 minutes I spend scrolling after I destroy you one by one.
You see, I'm shitposting, and this is still the highest quality thread you've had here since another Holla Forumsack paid you a visit (assuming they even care).

yeah nah mate, you're a shit cunt

oh so suddenly it's not you paying for your boss's salary? suddenly you realise that HE's the one distributing his company's profits among the factors of production?

That's understandable. The Jews didn't laugh in the chambers (which were a hoax, by the way, but it's a cool concept despite being invented by Jews), but the Nazis sure did while they dropped the gas. Speaking of gas, how's Grandpa Lampshade?

bih where

You decide your own contract. Don't like it? Don't sign it.


I really don't. What's so funny? Did Hans mix up the canisters?

No. Non-aggression is not going out of your way to attack people who aren't a threat. Communists are inherently a threat, so killing them openly isn't morally wrong, according to the NAP at least.

That man is a jackass for not bringing enough water to cross a desert. Of course the price of water rises in a desert. Not to mention the fact that slavery is against the NAP, because there is not choice to get out whenever you can. So technically, the salesman is violating the NAP by strongarming the stranded man, therefore the stranded man is entitled to attack the salesman and take his water as war reparations.
However, if the salesman doesn't make that offer (slavery, that is), the stranded man must use whetever scarce resources he has to buy a bottle, or even better, a ride to civilisation, and is not entitled to use force against the salesman.

fug
got it wrong
this way is correct

You're still not making any sense.

Your level of understanding of capitalism is painful to observe.
Many late teens/early 20s Americans favor ancap, until they grow up & understand the world. You must be going through this phase. You need to lurk more before posting here.

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101793027

named the jew, named 8-chun, and leftypoo, and threatened to raid them and now they're all GONE! AHAH, they flee!
fucking frauds. What-a-waste! What-a-mess!

how's having a goldmann sachs general manager as your PM?

this board is a strange place

the level of your salt makes me miss my kibbutz near the Dead Sea
make like a Skype and gas yourself

what a way to waste such a magnificient GET
it's okay my man, i fucked up my reply too
at least you're not as bad as that leaf who wasted 88888888 over on halfchan's Holla Forums

original AnCap faggot (pbum) here, pedophilia is degenerate, bottom line
heh, you thought I was of a regular breed of autism
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Legal as long you don't get into an accident, in which case you have to decide on a non-NAP-violating compensation for the damage
AND DON'T YOU DARE DAMAGE THE ROAD

stop larping and pound my boipucci
i want to scream your name when you ram your BUK into me
feel the thickness and range, mhmm

psshhh, Lena Dunham "Butterworth" should fuck off my thread

yeah my nigga, i'm calling the /int/er/pol/
hold tight and say goodbye to your doggos

mate….. it's no longer funny

Before or after a major earthquake?

I refuse to take a country seriously if its name literally calls me a faggot. UR GAY fucking seriously IT WAS ONLY ONCE AND I DIDN'T EVEN LIKE IT THAT MUCH

What, your gender studies professor or your girlfriend's boyfriend?

Thanks, fam. I hadn't seen that thread yet.

Again - no one understands your retarded memes, here. I'm really not trying to be rude, but goddamn, user.

you're pissed on a wednesday morning. get a job neet scum.

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101782581

fixed
boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101782581

lmao the butthurt in these threads

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It was a theoretical question which negated the very idea of a fair and mutual signing of contracts.
In a poor area where the workers may have only one option to either sign the contract or starve this would be self evident

Also the very concept of the NAP being applied in this circumstance is laughable if you own both a private court and the contract which makes the man a slave then that man will be a slave

Dude your entire post reeks of autism, I don't need further evidence

A large number of people in Eastern Europe prefer the soviet era, either because they always have, or in retrospect. A neighbor of mine (until recently), born a Ukrainian, was a perpetual true-believer of the USSR, and considered herself to be a refugee, not an immigrant.

She recently moved back to Moscow. Apparently she decided that Putinism is a close enough substitute for her tastes.

where are you from that she moved back to moscow
because if you are a westerner then let me tell you something about east europe
NOBODY except the rotten diaspora dream about their old "communist" era
the same people that are nostalgic are well look at that, people whos parents or themselves have escaped that same country during that era

it ruined eastern europe, because once the fairytail ideology died all the ex-party members just kept grabbing more and more and now are the rich elite

I live in the heart of the beast, enemy of mankind, the United States.

She was also not a regular worker. She was a highly-skilled nuclear engineer. Not quite nomenklatura, but pretty close.

I don't think she really cared for communism ideologically. She's just a Russian chauvinist and enjoyed living in a country that lorded over Eastern Europe. Now that state of affairs is back in place under the command of Tsar Putin, she has simply returned to her natural environment.

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how did capitalism kill communism
the same guys who were communists yesterday became something else today, and will change tomorrow as well
but it's alright to steal when you're member of the elite, right
party member, gov lackey, big business goon

i admit that communism sounds good on paper, but fuck my shit up fam, it's just full of moneygrabbing retards

Nice pasta, faggot. Half of our fire department is made up of volunteers. Citing leftist sources is also quite an ebin move. If you don't have fist, then start fishing, you dumb spic.

I saw a drop on the beginning and the end, otherwise it was soaring. Your point is?

Redirect me to it. I ain't reading all this shit.

They're trash. I have said it somewhere down low by now

I didn't sign shit, my man. The state has no business taking my money and spending it on bullshit, I can do that myself, thank you very much.

So why are you still on >>>/r/leftypol?
If you knew how this worked, you would have been starting associations years ago.

I have.

Alright, I'll bite. Socialist systems take away from those who make money, and give to those who don't. This discourages people from making money and encourages them to live off handouts, giving the government complete control over its citizens. It's not hard to grasp, is it?

who'da gassed it

yes, debunks this whole board (excluding me) pretty well

How can I address something that didn't happen? It's like wanting me to write an essay on why 420 gorillion Skype
getting gassed was a bad thing.
Now if you could address the famines, that'd be tighter than a starved Ukrainian woman's dry ass.

you can't pass through a thin door mate
what it do

this is a top lad, everyone

Alright. The supply and demand are the perfect system for determining prices, because they show you the exact quantity at which to produce to satisfy consumer demand, giving you the most adequate price. Oh, you don't like competition? Too bad, lad, stay mad. But I get that demanded quantity is less than supplied quantity - that's how it goes. Teach you to be flexible.

yeah nah i'm good mate

yeah, but uruguay is still a nog-infested shithole, isn't it?

mate, you're the one feeding the troll

still didn't happen fam

how are you still breathing lad

child labour is tight shit my man
gotta keep the feminists in line

yeah, Bestiat Baestiat is bae, grass is green, communism is cancer, what else is new
also, property is natural because it's acquired through legitimate (consensual) means
if something is unclaimed, it doesn't belong to everyone, it belongs to no one, therefore it's for the taking (of course, we're talking about scarce resources here - no oxygen)

shit deal my dude

faggot poofter cunt mate cunt

you have to go back

here you go (pic related)

yeah nah you're a shit cunt mate
also nofunz lmao

this is commie cognitive capability lads
wew lad

yeah i figured you weren't going anywhere
not with that body mass anyway

I know this must be awkward for you, so just direct me to your main bitch's room and have a seat ANYWHERE my friend

yeah lad keep thinking that mate
let's have an LGBBQ aye lad mate cunt mate

yeah lad
you can't get enough of this ancap stallion


Have you read my post?
If the NAP is violated, shit's going down, son.

yeah, I bet your "trial by the people" is very just and ultimately infallible, just like your policies

says the one with a fucking red snowflake tank
take a hike, kike

colour me surprised

communism inevitably falls on itself, mate
it's the way it is
the capitalists then strip out the nanny state, leaving degenerate hordes unable to provide for themselves
stupidity comes in a loop, and only Mi General tried to prevent it

capitalism always kills communism though
but I get what you mean fam
Agent Pulo out.
This shitpost had been brought to you by A.E.G.I.S. SOF - 4th Support Corps of the Bureau of Memetic Warfare and Psyops

Source please and like an estimate across multiple nations not the one that suits you
You really think the guardian is left wing with it's adamant support for tony blair?
And we finish with an ad-hominem classy!

holy shit I didn't even know people this autistic were allowed to use the internet

wow

Not if I pay off a private army and have anyone who opposes me assasinated. Do you seriously want to reurn to some kind of system of kingdoms like they have in Somalia where the person who owns the largest amount of armed personel has complete control to enslave who he wishes.

Oh and at that point we've already established a sort of mini state

Eh, we got a state fire department and a bunch of people with basic training for handling outdoor fires.
I have no idea what the Guardian stands for, lad. I know that it's mainstream media and that alone makes me doubt it tbqh.
Also, if you don't have fish*, start fishing. The "you dumb spic" was there only so you'd read it.

mate, haven't you ever shitposted?

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They're still outnumbered, and you underestimate the African equivalent of Bubba.

In the majority of nations there is no "volunteer" fire departments at all such as in the UK. Along with that fire departments will recieve most if not all in some cases of their funding through goverment grants. This isn't a great argument for "anarcho" capitalism and i'm not sure how the small number of volunteeres who don't work for a wage would fit into your ideas at all since there doing it for free and not for a profit motive. Not to mention the thing needs to be kept alive through taxation in the first place.

That really has little relevence to anything when the warlords are armed to the teeth and the rest of the population are not. In Somalia state funded soldiers where needed to come in to clear the damn mess

This was a surprisingly good thread.
boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101782581#p101807884

Please post the next one once it's up.

New thread

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101811283

What I've learned from the nationalists so far.

I'm trying to get educated on all peoples and cultures.

cuck

I'm trying to help bro.

Anyone have some Che Guevara wallpapers they'd like to share?
boards.4chan.org/wg/thread/6778894

There was a smol, waifish alt-right boy at work I "got educated on" quite a few times

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Is there a new thread?

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101819703#p101822028

Marx believed in a transition through multiple stages of economic theories dummy

Sufficient minds must meets?

He couldn't do anything in 14 years of power?

I'm in medical school

Were you also forced to play violin as a child?

Honest question

Piano. I can still play ok I guess.

post yourself playing the vietnam national anthem for proof

Post webm of you playing.

Also how qtie are you irl? Post pic?

You should practice. Music will be a sweet solace when the bombs drop.

Praise Posada

No thank you.

Honestly should. I just don't have the family piano near me, and I'm usually just use to that.

Play the Internationale for us vietnanfemanon

Maybe when I get a piano sure.

This hurts.

I'm not interested in sharing what I look like on Holla Forums as a woman who's a communist.

That's just like

a dumb stupid idea

this is how I imagine you

Yeah that's me

Was that supposed to help me? At least post someone that I can pretend is you.

Don't beg for things.

nvm this works.

It's probably more like this 2bh

Close enough just black hair

Why do most asians have square face?

I don't know why are all your men obese

its rather endearing i think grill pictured is major qt tho hair is disgusting.

I'm not white and I'm not trying to belittle asian women, calm your tits dyke.

👹

A reminder why there's been an influx of anfem posting the last few days.

I've noticed this. Holla Forums isn't very good at hiding it.

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Why doesn't communism work?

They've trying this ever since Holla Forums was born.

I think we need more designated shitposting flags, like feminist tankie

Wow. Epic raid, comrades!
:^)

Because it's Holla Forums or because you're communist?
If because communist that's not helping the cause. We need more people in public at least claiming so.

No one here likes Hillary or wanted her to win.
Once Sanders was out, there was no competent candidate left.

And btw, you might as well show your face if you're going to attention whore with a trip + shit flag.

Ok, that dude is pretty weird. But my main concern is for that kid. She doesn't look well taken care of. Really big bags under her eyes & always needs a haircut. Those aren't good signs.

Greed, simply put. If you look at Native American tribes and other aboriginal peoples' ethics, you're going to be profoundly split on whose side to choose: the invading force that is pushing their way of life, or the people that have for generations survived on their own terms without the invading force's way of life.

Now that we have plumbing and sewage and air travel and interwebs and shit like that, we should be aware of how this affects us. Communism, Socialism, Marxism, whatever – it's all fucked and can't succeed because we have a network through which people display and dispose of their DNA. We KNOW we're different from each other.

The black is different than the white, the male is different from the female, the feline is different from the canine. The canine has a larger brain than the feline and can respond to verbal cues, which the feline can not.

Take it for what it is. Capitalism can be leftist, but we have to invest more in arts and humanities. STEM-dick being shoved down the throat of every child in eastern nations is not a good thing. Look how poor India is. And the general population of China is a shitstorm. Why?

Certainly not because of communism, where the ideal is that the plumber and the local court judge make the same pay rate and have the same political influence. They shouldn't. But as leftists we should ensure that the plumber, a working man, can provide for the needs of his family which may have a child that may grow up to one day be the local court judge.

Shut the fuck up and lurk more you massive fucking retard.

What the fuck is this rambling?

Most people are good - whether they be "black, white, male or female."

That's not leftist, that's just socially liberal.

I'm an American living in India. We're not afraid of communism or socialism here. Many local governments proudly display their red flag - it's the only ones that work for those poor people.

You're not leftist. No one is buying that.

Yeah fuuuuuuuuuuck them. They really made a statement to which you can't make a rebuttal.

>>>Holla Forums

Most of it is so stupid it doesn't deserve a rebuttal. But I picked a couple of points.

Yeah, fuck you, you retarded newfag.

Every time your dog shits on the floor do you give it a dissertation explaining to it the fundamental flaws in its political philosophy?

here

Yeah. I don't disagree with that. Human nature can be bipolar but we're not criminal fucking assholes.

Which is good, I thought…? Being fiscally liberal needs a LOT of strategy. Hence why I said investment in humanity and arts is needed.

Nobody's afraid of communism anywhere.

Ok whatever. I took the test, and I was pinpointed as a "left wing libertarian" but you can judge me as you will.

Lmao..

Then why are you calling to appeal to the greed of some individuals? Most people want to live & not be bothered, not sociopaths who exploit others ruthlessly.

But it's not capitalism. Humanity & arts? What? How about public education in math, philosophy & science? Most people don't have the resources available to give a shit about arts yet.

Do you live in the US? Do you have any idea how many people(who don't even know what it is) claim it's ebil?

What "test"? Lmao. I'd say most of those online surveys are written by high school or early college students.

Libertarian is a joke/meme. Seems to me like it's meant to muddy the waters…

How is this a question? I can read this 10 different ways. Are you tired? You're not making a cogent response,

I can personally donate a pack of crayons and a coloring book to some kids. And some math problems and science literature, they'll love that.

PoliticalCompass.org , you see it all the fucking time and I'm guessing that you're actually the newfag here. There's Authoritarian or Libertarian, Left or Right wing. So Left Lib, Right Lib, Left Authoritarian or Right Authoritarian. I'm left wing liberal.

Take your memes back to facebook.

You initially said, in opposition to communism: "Greed, simply put." You also went on to try to highlight the differences between people, as if we cannot work together.

…………Wow. Look, children love learning. I think philosophy would be the most intriguing for them. But you said:
How in the fuck does investing in arts make capitalism leftist? It's an economic system. They tried to "protest" with art in the 70s, it didn't work too well.

Yes, most of us have taken it - for fun. And no, you don't see it all the time on Holla Forums, because it's not to be taken seriously. Maybe you're seeing it on >>>Holla Forums

Does highlighting the differences between people offend you? I think they can work together, but not if they're ignorant.

Kind of worked well for the protestants post-renaissance, didn't it? Martin Luther?

Yeah okay I'll throw you a bone. I believe you when you say you recognize PoliticalCompass's test. What did you get?

It does.


kys spook

Of course it doesn't offend me. But it's a cop out to allow a wedge between people to not work towards their common economic interests. You see this demonstrated in idpol, very well.

Art really doesn't mean shit as a tool in a capitalist society when another can just pay to have it destroyed. It doesn't take on the economic system. Just having pretty art with leftist themes doesn't do shit against porky or his enforces, the police force. Ultimately when up against a gun, it doesn't work.

You'll throw me a bone?
What did I get?

You should stick around, though, if you say you're leftist.

I should say though, I'm avid art lover. But philosophy courses are much more needed in the US. And not all art is equal.

forgot art

New thread

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101899401

Philosophy does fall under the category of "liberal arts" though, yes? Philosophy seems to be crammed into classes called "Language Arts" etc. I remember being introduced to Plato in 9th grade English class but I had previously learned who it was in 7th grade history.

Yes, it is under the category of liberal arts.

Yeah, I went to shitty schools & dropped out in the 9th grade, actually. I can't remember ever learning about philosophy. They do cram important classes together which is also not helpful.

Our education system is totally fucked in the US, for many reasons. Besides obvious funding flaws, students aren't engaged or allowed to question anything they learn. The classroom is set up against this way of teaching.

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101899401


Can someone help answer his questions? I just ate some weed butter & I'm not able to write as good as usual, lmao.

Why? We're allowed to use any board we want. I personally follow political boards.

It was never your board to begin with

I never said it was you pussy pained faggot

What's the matter friend, can't handle a little

competition? :^)

Why are you so thin skinned? Holla Forums has 'raided' every other board on 4chan, why can't the same be done to it?

Holla Forums is a board for general political discourse, there's nothing wrong with left wingers going there to have a discussion

But we've done nothing to break the nap. Maybe you should be less of a faggot

We're improving it by promoting actual political conversation instead of only shitposting.

Because education & political convo is a good thing.

no wonder this board keeps getting shitted up

I just answered your question.. We all use different boards.

Communism is pretty much flat earth tier at this point.

wtf I'm capitalist now

Also, remove that flag until you can use it right

You aren't going anywhere with this, stay back in your containment chan.
Love how you absolutely failed at taking over the Holla Forums discord by the way.

I hope you mean the actual word, not the app.

Are you the discord spammer? Lmao.

Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is Productivity Per Capita Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Seize The Means Of Production Like Nigga Disincentivize Efficiency Haha

Well, uh, technically, uh, nah

top kek

The flags you guys choose are hilarious.

You do realise that SocDem Norway is number one in productivity per capita right?

No that would be me. I fucking gloated about being good at infiltration and you autists had no idea. And now all of 4chan knows about your autism.

Taking over a discord of all things. You guys are all faggots

t. Stonewall

I didn't even know what discord was. No one here cares, tbh.

4chan does

I wouldn't post that cringe in support of your argument, user.

You misunderstand. There will be no argument. I am simply crashing your plan. With no SURVIVORS

Le red army is here!!

What about it?

Hahaha, ok bud.

No one should try this hard.

Heck off racist. This board is for intellectuals only.

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101925658

How is it bad again?

What a retarded false flag

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101916259

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You're white.

THIS!

Any mod can check I've been around for longer than just a month

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And damn proud of it

No you silly goose.

I was saying you're not an intellectual because you don't have the grades to prove for it by being white and internet educated like most whites with political opinions on the internet.

You haven't even gone to a community college without flunking out.

Ah yes. The armchair economist, looking down upon me from his his lofty moral and intellectual chair. Declaring me an ignorant fool. I wonder if he could see past his own nose, he would realise the hypocrite he is. After all, I myself, in my whiteness can never have known struggle, never worked a day in my life, oh no certainly not. I must still have slaves serving me on the plantation acting on my every thought and whim. But you from the high horse you rest your ass on has seen this where I could not. You are of course completely, 100% correct. It's not like there are millions of white people in the working class, or in poverty, or struggling in this world. No it's only those Few brave, hard working non-whites out truly know the meaning of struggle.

I love insulting your race because you're smug about it but equally able to shatter, when it comes to someone from another that is from a race that does what you're smug about better.

literally SJW tier idpol

That's the joke.


I'm in college.

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I'm pointing out the idpol itself by insulting him in similar manner. It's not actually serious. I'm fine with whites.

Yes.

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Are you going to argue with pictures your Autism Level and success is higher than most Asian college students. Because really you're falling under the same categorical racism you put others under.

Go make me some ramen you squint eyed fuck

No, it's not for being white. It's actually because you believe in dressed up ideology largely no different than Scientology or new wave belief system that puts identity and feeling good ahead of actual goals in order to be manipulated by others for maximum potential.

You're a nazi on the internet, you're some think tanks own marketing tool.

I'm white and I like ramen. Am I a race traitor?
Also, I'm white and I actually read books. Am I race traitor?

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No, you're who they pretend to be.

The Nazi flag makes this ironic as hell

Who is talking about the Soviet Union. Nobody is talking about the Soviet Union.


Who is talking about the Soviet Union. Nobody is talking about the Soviet Union.


You clearly are since you think tankie and collectivist are even remotely synonymous with one another here.

The great thing here is that sectarian debate occurs and not everyone agrees with policy, allowing things to be debated and advanced upon like they always were.

I'm really just implying you're a useful idiot for Reaganites.

Who is talking about the Soviet Union. Nobody is talking about the Soviet Union.

Who is talking about the Soviet Union. Nobody is talking about the Soviet Union.

Who is talking about the Soviet Union. Nobody is talking about the Soviet Union.

Who is talking about the Soviet Union. Nobody is talking about the Soviet Union.

Who is talking about the Soviet Union. Nobody is talking about the Soviet Union.

Who is talking about the Soviet Union. Nobody is talking about the Soviet Union.

Who is talking about the Soviet Union. Nobody is talking about the Soviet Union.

Who is talking about the Soviet Union. Nobody is talking about the Soviet Union.

Who is talking about the Soviet Union. Nobody is talking about the Soviet Union.

I can feel the fedora.

This is heavily ironic coming from Holla Forums

I don't know if you noticed but your entire demographic is disenfranchised alienated young men who don't shave.

That's racist.

I love Liberals (you're a fascist in the same way a Bernie Sanders support is a socialist)

b-b-b-b-b-ut my identity isn't identity politics

Same shit the left-Liberals pull to get all the minorities on board. Tell them the other people's identity is the mass identity coming to destroy your way of life. it never happens

That's Holla Forums-ist!

Blood in blood out :v)

That's pretty Low energy

Stop talking in jokes in order to bait responses it's irritating to me and a lot of people here. If you want to be a regular you have to have the ability to post without being on mobile.

Not an argument

What argument

Glad you agree

What do I agree with. The argument is you're a moron. Whether or not you think this is an argument is in itself pointless because it is the argument.

No u

Not an argument

Glad you agree

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Checked

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Daily reminder

You shouldn't bring idpol/race into this. You have the ability to shame them without it.

It's funnier when they're just reduced to posting jokes that went stale months ago for not being able to hold up to the high standard of person they set as normal.

Kek is with me heretics, you cannot hope to stand against me.

glad that you hate turks as well

What happens to jokes that stop being funny

do people keep using them?

That's actually an insect native to further East.

Funny joke though.

Well you could go ask your mom

like clockwork

Kek up in that ass.

They'll do this for hours

Wow, now you're also stealing /a/ memes?
And you accuse us of stealing "Holla Forums memes" (such a thing doesn't exist).

Whoops, forgot to take out the shitposting flag.

Both of you are narrow-minded people with barely the ability to debate. I seriously hope you leave this board for a while and meditate a little before resuming this mutual bloodbath of your dignity.

Just do it like Nike says.

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101957599

This one is ripe.

Be subtle famrades

i'd rather resume the mutual bloodbath of ur mums cunt on the rag tbh

Why is Holla Forums stealing our failsons?

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101978690

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101980533

Get in here faggots
boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101981311

Praise Kek*4.

He is with is.

is youtube embed allowed in halfchan?

This is what we need. Teach them about their labour history, maybe they'll wonder if the darkies aren't the problem

Funny how when whites and blacks stood together porky was most threatened, hmm…

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/101980533#p101988083

Holla Forums (and formerly GG) here. I don't normally involve myself in these board wars, but please keep doing this, it's fucking hilarious. I'm tired of every goddamn thread on Holla Forums being derailed into something about Trump, or how Jews and black people are supposedly the problem with everything. Day-one DLC, season passes and dumbing down of game mechanics were what turned the videogame industry to shit, and none of that had anything to do with minorities. Not that I'm interested in having our vidya discussion be managed by Soviet commissars or be all about hating capitalism either, but it's good to see somebody pushing back against the waves of morons.

I think GG and the years leading up to it really expose in the clearest sense how profit is a corrupting influence on art, entertainment and culture. The SJW incursions were only possible, tactically speaking, because devs are ultimately not free to create.
Damn straight.

never 5get

I'm actually originally from /a/. Left 4chan because Holla Forums derailing anime discussion was driving me crazy. Came here for slow comfy /a/ and then after the Holla Forums exodus to Holla Forums ruined that I just stuck to Holla Forums. Never thought I'd see the day I return to 4chan specifically to discuss politics on the shithole that is Holla Forums. Maybe I can start discussing anime again too.

Would it be too much to ask for you to shitpost about politics on an actual political board, unless a particular game is specifically about politics? You're not creating allies by doing what you're doing.

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Cuckchan does seem to be moving back leftwards, after years of /stormfront/ shit.

KeK hasnt supported Trump since he was eating frog's legs with Ted Cruz.

This.
Holla Forumsspam on /sci/ really gets under my fingernails with bamboo splinters, if you know what I mean.

I'm just being irreverent fam
More than anything it's just funny to see the clash between how out of place Holla Forums always comes across as on /sci/ and how well they themselves believe they're pulling it off.

proof? I've never seen edgelords on the internet go /left/ ever. They usually just back and forward from Lolbert
to some sort of Fascist/Nazi/Traditionalist
usually stopping at
utopianism because being a moralist is hard and Lolberts have excuses to moan at everything ever.

It's not about me growing some skin, it's about making Holla Forums discuss vidya again. I've been using imageboards for nearly a decade. If I didn't have thick skin I never would have done that. If I didn't have thick skin I'd be with the side that wants Holla Forums stuff banned from the internet entirely, but I'm not. I support Holla Forums's right to post all the Jew hate they want, and the right of anyone else to post about whatever beliefs they have, as long as they do it on a board where it's actually on topic. Holla Forums is not that board.

I joined GG in the very early going, before the mainstream media narrative smearing it had even been crafted, because it was against political correctness and devs being told how they should make their games. If anything, I've found Holla Forums to have skin at least as thin as that of the SJWs. Whatever differences you think they may have, that certainly isn't one of them. Holla Forums wasn't always like that, though. There was a time when political discussion and Holla Forums coexisted without either tripping over the other. That's what we should go back to.

It's just the impression I'm getting. FORUMS THEORY is not a precise science.

You only get that impression because of the jewish mind control tbh. They do it because its the only major field they haven't beaten everyone else on nobel prizes in.

"An"craps are fucking Autistic as fuck.

Wut?

Yeah man you won't hear about forums theory from the MSM or at your university because the jews covered it up

Don't know if same guy but…… where does the mind control come in?

I haven't browsed /a/ for years now but did Holla Forums start derailing anime discussion too? I always felt /a/ was relatively apolitical. Maybe if it's just the GATE threads, I can imagine. But I never saw them talking about family values in Non Non Biyori and shit Holla Forums likes to do.

Mind control is inseparable from the control of public discourse. Read your Kabbalah fam

It was a long time ago so my memory of it now is vague. One thing that sticks out was a porn thread derailed by some Holla Forumsacks triggered by NTR and calling people cucks. It wasn't even a raid. Having a fun non-serious argument about NTR was normal, but derailing a good thread because of "degeneracy" wasn't happening before. We fucking reveled in our fun. A fucking porn thread of all things. I can't think of any other group of mouthbreathers so triggered they'd ruin a porn thread on /a/. I guess the odd loli hater sometimes showed up, but not as a group. There were also threads about this or that being Jewish and people bitching about Jews and leftists trying to destroy anime. Some anons complained, but the general reaction on /a/ was to ignore and report which didn't do enough at the time. For lack of a better term I was triggered as, having been banned from revleft and dealt with shitty college activism, dealing with politics, particularly with Holla Forums's level of discourse, was the last thing I wanted. Might've just left at a bad time as I've heard from others that the mods are doing a good job now and general attitude has turned against Holla Forums. Might go back for the winter season since it looks like a good one.

>boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/102002632
They make the thread themselves and then they spam it to death? What's the point?

It goes both ways.

I browse both.
I see issues in both. For gods sake people to close the door is to ignore the reality.

Had a few good discussions outside the general. The mods finally cleaned up the porn and gore spam though I think the general just paints a big target. Good to at least announce our presence and draw their attention while posting in other threads. Been seeing positive feedback from anons on other boards. Guess people really are sick of Holla Forums. Was a bit slower today. Hope you guys keep it up. Actually starting to enjoy it. There are few people there that actually want good discussion. They might even be happy we're there if we help improve the quality of discussion.

Bump this thread to D&C
boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/102020449

Haven't bothered in a few days, are stormfags still shitting it up and mods deleting?

Why not make a better quality OP. High quality discussion will bring out the best of Holla Forums and get others involved.


The general gets shit up, but I have good discussions in other more subtle threads.

Holla Forums mods are going full hitler banning dissenters.
The paranoia is setting in.

Personally im losing faith with the right more and more. To many dumb cunts that let it get to their head and want to purge everything not a certain colour.

Guess i should have known better.

I'm more optimistic, Even with disagreements I've found several Holla Forumsacks wiling to listen and even agreeing with stuff. It helps having anons from other boards encourage this. We could potentially make 4chan improve rather than get worse for once in its life. That's encouraging enough for me. I don't want to see the day imageboards aren't around or are too awful to browse. All the anons here that waste time responding to bait threads should instead spend a little while on Holla Forums.

we did it, reddit!

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/102025668
I guess I did my civic duty?

The /mlg/ thread are fun. Would start posting now, but I've been on all night and need to sleep.

Whelp guys I'm going to bed. That felt completely pointless I hope some lurker was interested by it, thanks to anyone who helped out.

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should we go with /mlg/ or /left/ threads?

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boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/102038246

New thread

I don't think I understand this graph, but I think I fall under large son volcel.

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/102081163

This is a surprisingly good thread

could us some backup

cmon now, comrades

im b& but I'm watching and it's great, saved a few images too

thanks pal!

Come now, comrade.

Holla Forums cant debunk anything hungarian user posted

hah they gave up
Holla Forums BTFO

make another thread
force it upon them whenever they slide one down

started hibernian posting

gotta go now, but people starting coming in

KEK

People in this thread don't fucking know a god damned thing about economics

Economics is hard.

These fucks are confusing classical and Keynesian economics

Are you keynesposter?
They ballbust socialists for allegedly "not understanding economics" but 95% of them have a glaring unfamiliarity with basic concepts and its history. Like how a theory of value around socially necessary labor was originally due to Ricardo and so on
You could even call Smith a utopian socialist for half the things he wrote.

yea that was me I called that german fuck out on his stupidity

You take the mine and then get a reputation as the people who take what they want and don't care about what others have or need because "your need" is "greater". Not to mention that the boss you "over throw" was the one managing the logistics for trading the mines goods for things needed to keep the mine running as well as providing currency so that you could get your own food and supplies for you and your family. Leaders and bosses are the ones using their networking and trade deals to make the mine worth running in the first place. While you go on about how little they work, they are the catch all ensuring logistical support is not stopped and that there is the best exchange possible made.

Go ahead and believe everyone will work towards the good of all and not just the few they care for most. The cold reality is that more will shirk, steal, procrastinate and weasel their way into a comfortable life and then laugh at the others who so generously give in their naivety.

I'm sure many understand economics in theory, but it seems they don't understand how it interplays with logistics, networking, social biases (friendships, business partners and the favors that allow for normally disruptive events to be compensated for).

They might actually cobble something together that takes that into account if they studied a system with those things in play yet is all part of a single government managed and funded system like… A military logistics unit?

I have a message for you, from the rest of Holla Forums.

youtube.com/watch?v=AA5GbpYQALE

youtube.com/watch?v=h7yfaSTSxBQ

you mean slightly annoyed at the commie spam, watching you idiots getting btfo'd is pretty funny tbh, I have like 50 screenshots so far of "not real communism"

You're the second guy, thinking something is a fallacy when really you are yourself fallacious

51 screenshots ex dee thanks friend

Maybe you might actually try learning something with this 51st even about what constitutes argumentation
But you're a Holla Forumsyp so I doubt that

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This falls into the accuracy paradox and Bonini's paradox. Even if you *did* make a hyper accurate model that put hard numbers to every single factor you mentioned (by itself an impossible feat), it wouldn't be anymore useful compared to a less accurate model and in fact it would be less so due to the sheer complexity involved.

Imagine a map that depicted every coastline on Earth to a 1:1 ratio. The most accurate map ever produced, but useless because it would have to be the width of the planet by definition. There would be no point using the map over the Earth itself.

Likewise, if we depict a simulation in which EVERY LAST FACTOR that goes into a human economy is simulated, there's no point in using the simulation over our real world data.

You can be a communist and not live in communism. You can be a communist and even set about the best conditions for competing capitalists to take over command. This does not mean they are the same thing.

neither does it mean that going about setting up a communist regime will end in anything but historically proven failure

Revolutionary ideas are by definition untested.

So does that mean that Marxism++ and Revolution are mutually exclusive?

so what you're saying is that communism hasn't been tried?

Depends on what you mean by Marxism. Marx himself was not a Marxist.

I am saying that if you think communism is 'regimes' then I am not a 'communist.' Nonetheless, the underlying ideals remain unwavering.

so how do you think the dictatorship of the proletariat should go then? Obviously every other attempt at it has failed to lead to a stateless classless society, why is your application of Marx going to be any different?

What, pray tell, is my application of Marx? The problem with Holla Forums is precisely this. There are accusations being hurled around as if this or that is what one should defend. I am not even advocating what is given in the picture with quote. Merely associating with some irony does not make one guilty by some very serious user.

And Jesus wasn't a Christian. These are words.

>this dude is literally arguing against Jesus now

They were communists but didn't succeed in establishing communism

There is nothing new or particularly original about this way of thinking.

What? The thing was about metafiction, so that excludes science as well as history.

That man is the reincarnation of Georgi Dimirtrov

*Dimitrov

FULLY

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boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/102125939

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/102138970

nu-Holla Forums is shit

copypasta-tier cringe. You guys are right, you have managed to weaponize autism. Keep going.

STOP SPAMMING Holla Forums

stop getting ass anguished

You forgot the comma

And it's not spamming; it's political discussion. You don't like it? Go to another board.

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feels good

>>>Holla Forums8479337

ayy lmao

And I though our secteranism was bad looks like their slow going to tear themselves apart

Childish.

Doubtful.

lmao, coming from Holla Forums?

let's not forget to branch out more. lots of different 4cuck boards are easy to troll with communism
boards.4chan.org/g/thread/57919326#p57919770

also, people here should post on some 8ch boards like Holla Forums and Holla Forums. Holla Forums is really easy to post on because Stallman is a technocommie.

Get in here bros
boards.4chan.org/sci/thread/8526374

Trolling isn't really the goal, though. It's educating them, as I see it. But branching out could be good. I don't use those boards though. Maybe others do.

they're so triggered that you troll them BY educating them

/sci/ likes education, come to /sci/

Damn, that really is sad, lmao. D:

easy sci material

Found some fuckers talking shit about socialism.

boards.4chan.org/r9k/thread/33283522

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holy shit bui is sliding threads like nuts

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/102301238

heatst.com/culture-wars/marxist-vegan-restaurant-closes-after-customers-no-longer-willing-to-wait-40-minutes-for-a-sandwich/

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH

Lurk more, faggot

How goes the raid, comrades?

what did he meme by this

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/102329964

this thread is amazing btw, there's practically no spam, and ZERO helicopter posts, this could be a first

Kek someone posted pic related on /sci/

Holla Forums gets away with shitposting on /mu/ often enough.

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Hey, I made it to a screenshot. :D Even if it is bullshit. It's funny, they accuse us of doing what they always attempt to do to other boards. But we're not trolling; we're educating them. To push that away is pretty hilarious. They can't take any questioning of the way they think, even if it's fact.

This Belgium user is pretty great

The funny thing is they have to "warn" and "alert" boards to our presence because our arguments don't show up conspicuously out of place and reeking of shit like theirs do.
/sci/ is my main board and you can ALWAYS tell the Holla Forumsposters by smell.

I've noticed an increasing number of Holla Forumsyps being told to fuck off on other boards lel

i.4cdn.org/pol/1481397314249.png

That's actually fucking hilarious.

We speak the truth, my enemy does propaganda!
AD HOMINEM!
These bastards can be so persuasive I sometimes question my (in)sanity!

SPEAKING OF ETHICS,

I am not surprised at all.

I'm fucking dead.. Holy shit.

My personal favorite has to be "why do you guys act so smug & so much smarter than us?"

…….

I agree that smugness is unnecessary, but to say we're "acting smarter"?

Oh, to be sure, I was livid when I read that.
There's actually a semi-fair point to be made that we rely on logos so heavily that it actually comes off as dishonest and alienating in some circumstances (see, for instance, contemporary anti-science sentiment) and that we could stand to broaden our rhetorical technique.


Case in point - alienating emphasis on logos

Holla Forums especially is a self-propelled machine of ethos and pathos, see (E Gentile):

Clicking directly on that brings a "ip banned" error message

The dialectic is in motion

That's the point, some Holla Forumsyp got banned for reporting a commie thread and got really mad about it

Brave men & women.

SOLIDARITY, comrades.

Behold comrades, I bring you, a masterpiece…

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/102373899

I've seen that too, that's some nice free advertising.

What… What is this?

An obvious troll. Just felt like it was brilliant.

He claimed he was from "leftpol." So either another example of or a comrade doing god's work.

get in here
boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/102415066

Reminder that /his/ is the board most ripe for education and conversion

boards.4chan.org/his/thread/2067634

boards.4chan.org/his/thread/2072639

boards.4chan.org/his/thread/2073090

boards.4chan.org/his/thread/2070090

/his/ is good for lengthy debates. for spreading influence and shitposting memes, Holla Forums is the king

Obviously both are useful. I think having proper debate in Holla Forums is a good idea too; it will improve the quality of the board and allow us to actually convince people because they will become more able to read longer and more complex posts over time. Right now most of the audience can barely understand more than a meme.

This one is good

Reminder you faggots will always get laughed at.

youtube.com/watch?v=ZiiOz6V-9N8

STOP IT MUKE
At least let me prep you and drill you on talking points, good lord.
You don't have to read to win

Have you consider extending your outreach to other boards on 4chan?

You don't need to be obvious, and there are some subtle tactics which can be used to recruit the neutral.

you do realize that there is nothing subtle when everyone can come and read this planing here

How many people will bother?

more like


All you're doing is adopting Holla Forums's already ineffective tactics to fight Holla Forums's ineffective tactics.

incoming Holla Forumsyps desperately attempting to force the meme that they were responsible for trump in da house because muh keku god said so!!!111

Holla Forums BTFO

8ch.net/pol/res/8489696.html#8489696

do they honestly believe this stuff?

I fucking can't.

Why do they have such a boner for the Q'bbal-lah lmfao

it's a spooky magic book that the jews get their magic from

the cringe is strong with this one

Those people are so spooked they're about as close to material reality as the postmodernists they so hate.
Medieval word-salad that makes sense through pop-culture isn't any better than academic word-salad that makes sense through Uni.
This thread is about 4/pol/, our board should remain an Island inside cripplechan for as long as it can really, else we'll go the way of Holla Forums

you lost, your threads are dead god bless identity politics it will haunt the left for eternity.

I've infiltrated your generals.

Okay, that's fucking it.

How the FUCK did conspiracies about the Frankfurt School go from humorous
to batshit insane
?

But they were, user. Didn't they tell you at Hebrew School?

Who even started the stupid Frankfurt meme? Anders Breivik?

Hitler was right

Rommel infiltrated Hitler's generals

Right wing conspiracies always devolve into theories about devil worshipping cults. It's been that way since even before Alex Jones.

>implying i hate Rommel
>implying i don't want to chase piggy bankster with a chainsword
If you stopped leeching our labor and sending it to ungrateful niggers and exploding Arabs i would consider Marxism.

Like what?

He dead.

youtube.com/watch?v=ld2kLFwb1iY

desuarchive.org/a/thread/150857498/
But hey, apparently we are the ones raiding.

Hey, 4chan "moderate" here, and I just wanted to stop by and say something…

Oldfag tip: If you are going to start raids, while you can call a rally on the public boards, when you're going into details like this, GO TO A FUCKING PRIVATE BOARD! (Or irc or whatnot.)

I'm sitting there on 4chan, trying to dismantle some of the usual lies commonly told about Chomsky, who, while not a communist per-say, does rather bend toward your spectrum, and suddenly, fucking this happens:

boards.4chan.org/his/thread/2067634/why-do-people-dislike-chomsky#p2079152

So great, now I'm a shill, and so is everyone else defending the Jew in the thread, and all the guys spreading lies about the guy are affirmed a thousand fold. Great job!

As a 4channer who agrees with your positions at least half of the time, I implore you: STOP! (Or at least think twice about how to go about organizing "raids" before you go up against a board that pretty much invented the fucking concept.)

It's pointless, these spergs will follow us everywhere. We have some of the most autistic Holla Forums posters of all time.

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Just remember that the folks who were being paid to manipulate social networks under the Hillary campaign, who, despite some efforts to cover their tracks, actually got caught, did far more damage than their equivalent opposition ever could have done on their own.

Yeah, you *might* get a mole on IRC or whatnot if you're not careful, but here you're just flat out advertising the deception and painting the nature of your movement in an increasingly dark light.

If I was as paranoid as Holla Forums (and this is the very sort of JIDF activity that fuels said paranoia) I'd almost think that this was an alt-right effort to make the left look even more duplicitous than it is. But it gives them rather too much credit, so I suspect it's simply angry folks not thinking shit through, and killing their own cause as a result.

Think - don't simply react.

they already know what we're doing. let them know. this isn't a raid, it's a debate.

it's like stepping on a slug and then complaining that your sole got slimy

They don't all know what you're doing, and once they've found out, whatever leanings they may have had towards your direction will be lost by equal and opposite revulsion.

Maybe if you went and *announced* you were from Holla Forums every time you started or attempted to manipulate a thread on 4chan, rather than pretending to be one of their own with a differing opinion, you'd have a point.

Following the threads you've linked, however, that's clearly not what you've been doing.

There's quite a difference between open debate and clandestine infiltration. The former may have some affect on those so inclined, but the latter will universally drive a wedge between you and your target audience when revealed, regardless of the truth of its contents.

Screencaps and our board name are in almost every relevant thread.

Some people are just posting links to threads they found

I assure you there is nothing secret about what we're doing. Like you said, we're all posting right out in the open. Although, it has been pretty hilarious to see 4/pol/'s attempts to raid us in retribution for bursting into their safe space.

That's not what I'm seeing here, but if you say so…

I can see that, to be sure, but that's fairly predictable… And, if what I'm perceiving as dishonest attempts at infiltration is true, they do have the moral high ground, in that they are being completely honest about it - even if, yes, in the most obnoxious way imaginable. (What else would you expect from the containment board of the "deepest darkest dungeon" of the internet?)

bretty Spooky fam

4chan's basically the new reddit. Holla Forums though, we're practically deepweb at this point.

They will infiltrate anything posted here - they are more than capable of clicking through to other boards, discords, IRCs and sitting there for months, our Holla Forums do nothing but LARP their life out like a video game, they can have their shitty macros and sperging out about generals. They're just doing their usual shit and playing the "It's okay when we do it because you do it, and if you don't do it already, it's bad when you start doing it because we did it".

You're the one saying it's clandestine infiltration. Holla Forums are overall just too spergy to ever point out when posting these screenshots that whenever we're confronted by the screenshots we openly say we're from here and trying to debate rather than infiltrate. They probably see the confused anons who say they're not from here as further proof of their schizoid fantasies, not that they give a shit as long as they "win".

Meh, if you're just yelling at each other to let off steam, "educating and changing minds" be damned, as well as all the obvious consequences, fine. Otherwise, that's a rather important perceptive spook.

everything's a spook

Just keep in mind that it makes the efforts of those that actually are attempting that a whole lot harder, while simultaneously alienating any allies you might have found.

Yo

boards.4chan.org/his/thread/2082863

boards.4chan.org/his/thread/2082851

boards.4chan.org/his/thread/2067634

boards.4chan.org/his/thread/2082859

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/102688360

For the record, I'm not using a Macro.

Dishonest tactics are dishonest, no matter who engages in them.

Would that you were confident enough in your abilities and in the validity of your arguments to organize formal debates, through YouTube or Skype or whatever else, and just leave it at this. Subversion will get you nowhere.

That's good advice. I'll start doing that.

Bump for thread protection

Fuck that. If someone asks, you can just tell them you browse both boards, because that's the truth. We're not raiding & we're not spamming. It's political conversation. It's a great idea to reach out to others browsing Holla Forums who don't worship Trump &/or just figuring out politics. There are a lot of young people there to reach.

It's about education. Those making it out to be anything else aren't worth tagging along on this.

Guys, they think we gave up.
boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/102794945
We were just disrupted by Bui, right?

top kek watch out for the oldfags who have always been here

We'll hit them again soon, it was Bui, who did literally everything wrong.

We're letting people down who defended us, let's get back on it now that the botswarm has stopped.

This is something that will take a year or so, we cannot step down now that we have started or we will become a laughing stock. It's important we don't try and hide our intentions, and should admit that we are, in fact, leftypol when questioned.

We are not doing anything we shouldn't be doing, we are advocating a different system which has been demonized by those in charge.

also, it was motherfucking finals week. I personally had exams, essays, AND orientation at the uni I'm transferring to. all kinds of traffic die down around now.

LIKE FUCKING CLOCKWORK!

Kek, I'm the Brit too.

Got to remember anyone on Holla Forums you talk to who you find out is now arguing in good faith is a dirty, dirty fuck. Some of them do though.

By the way,

is

Screenshot Man.

The fact that the MSM is basically calling Trump a commie now should help us get through to them, too. They're seeing how it is to be demonized & have all sorts of bullshit thrown your way, politically. We deal with that as well being socialists or communist. We have a common enemy in the media as a whole

It's also always blown mu mind that many call themselves Natsocs yet call socialism "ebil/communist".

I think now shit's calmed down we start this up again.

Drop the victim complex m8. Holla Forums, a board that flirts with nazism knows all too well what political oppression feels like. Numerous Holla Forumss have lost their job over the years for daring post their opinions on FB or reddit.

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i kry evretyme

Really makes you think.

if you really think all of pol are roleplaying skinheads then you've hamstringed any efforts made by you to stop the rise of the right

is this the current thread?

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/102840195

Jesus Christ Holla Forums is such a sack of sobbing shit.

Someone grab the template and fire up a thread.

Shit, it's right here.

Get in here you genderqueer SJW faggots.

I'm still amazed how a single fat jew from Texas that conned some hollywood jews into donating to a "zionist" fund-raiser scam is behind everything against Holla Forums does.

Why the fuck can't I post?


Guys, listen up

Do you want to fuck with Holla Forums? Take over the Tuvalu Conquest iconography
Holla Forums is currently LARPing that they are going to conquer the shitty island of Tuvalu (whose only relevance to the world was being assigned the .tv country domain)

In the Tuvalu flag thread, some leaf rolled a commie flag, and they've been so butthurt they completely ignored the roll
there was a bit of lefty-posting afterwards, idk if it was some of you guys

Here flag was posted:
>archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/102807154/#102809873
Reroll of the flag got trips:
>archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/102807154/#102810666

I've fucking had it

Why can't I post the second half?
Is there a censored word without proper warning?

Combining links with lots of quotes seems to cause the board to choke on autism

Might be an anti spam feature

LATEST THREAD

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/102872906

Its so funny
Like bees to the honey

I think the board has a messed up anti-spam feature or something. This has happened to me a few times in the past.

they are STILL raiding here
8ch.pl/leftypol/catalog.html

Today in the middle of an argument in the /mlg/ thread I wasn't able to respond anymore - the system continously thought I was spam no matter how often I refreshed the site. Anybody else had that issue today?

Oh and can someone remove shit like WWI from this infograph and replace it with something that has been obviously, directly caused by capitalism? I think having stuff like WWI up there that was mostly just imperialism makes us look stupid

Jesus how thick are they

nah. I was making 50 posts per thread. felt good man

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Read a fucking book

Thread?

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/102905407

bump

Especially the Native American Genocide and Slave Trade, since they both happened before the Wealth of Nations was even written, which means Imperialism and Mercantilism

Fair enough.

I guess, then, that by that measure, Marixism++, being the natural successor of the Capitalist system (according to Marx and Engels), likewise inherits all of the guilt-debt of Capitalism, Mercantilism, and Imperialism.

Lenin was an ideologue, not a logician.

kek

For the Denialists.

youtube.com/watch?v=yZAY-78zhmw

Uh.. that was basically what I was saying, retard.

I'm fine with this board thanks you pleb

Jimmy Dore: "Coal Country Voter SHREDS The Alt Right"

youtube.com/watch?v=jjHyw3B_76k

Someone share this in the recent thread or a new one. I want to see what they think about him.

Another good one:
White coal miner & black people standing together in protest for the fight for $15

"Hillary's Loss Makes Perfect Sense After Hearing This Man Speak"
youtube.com/watch?v=-jjrSWCgJus

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Stop.

It's like clockwork.

We made it fam, 10000!

lol how is that working out for you

taxation is cancer for markets

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/103019221

Damn guys we lost!

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I've been here the whole time. Over a week. Watching. Posting.

Jimmy Dore is known to be a regular panelist on TYT, a propagandist as much as the rest. He holds about as much credibility to the Right as does Glen Beck to you.

Oh, a coal miner? Who is speaking on a Leftist show? Sounds legitimate. I'm sure that it will be taken seriously by your opponents. They'll probably give it as much consideration as you gave the video from the Prince of Egypt posted earlier…

looks like Holla Forums might be warming up to zizek.
boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/103080474

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Smith was important because he gave an analysis explaining HOW capitalism operated. It already existed by his time. Likewise merchantilism, while being somewhat of a broad term, was still early capitalism and had almost all of the hallmarks by which we define capitalism at large. The differences were were mostly the matter of it not being industrial yet and that the bourgeoisie had not yet seized complete power in the political institutions and economic instutitions (having to compete with some latent serfdom in the latter case).

The height of the Atlantic Slave Trade and most of the Native American Genocide happened within the timeframe of capitalism's rise.

So sayeth Leftist sophists. Mercantilism is, in Truth, significantly different from Capitalism - resources were requisitioned from colonies for use in industrial facilities *by Royal Decree*, to merchants and nobles ordained by the monarch. The goods produced thereafter would, depending on their nature, either be sold *by the agents of the Monarch to other nations*, or, with the proper charters (again, completely at the Monarch's discretion) be allowed to be sold by merchant houses. The Capitalist system, which argued for an almost completely unrestricted process, was directly at odds with the centrally operated economic systems of the 18th Century.

Mercantilism is about as similar to Capitalism as Capitalism is to socialism. The deaths of the Native Americans were primarily caused by disease, with a much smaller fraction being killed through violence -in most cases after being involved in a war with the United States (such as the siding of dozens of N.A. Tribes with the British in the War of 1812, which was the reasoning behind Jackson's Trail of Tears). History is a complicated series of causes and their effects (which are themselves causes), and it is disingenuous to lump in the casualties of war or other violent action into these "statistics", cooked as they are.

Have you read the Wealth of Nations? It is freely available online. I recommend that you do so. It is long, but it is a worthwhile read.

They wololoed all our soldiers!

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/103168073

Get in here famrades
Keep stirring it up

get in quick

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/103181900

lol, the only thing the 4/pol/acks can do is post maymays, shitty webcomics, and spout the usual sarcastic template objections to communism.

An organized effort on 4/pol/ would be easy considering how weak their objections to socialism actually are. They're easy meat and ripe for the taking.

I enjoy rinsing them in every thread while they frogpost

If I go back to 4pol this won't last long. I crush you on home turf every thread, even while agreeing.

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anyone having trouble posting?

Finally. Ok, nm.

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/103202363

New thread gang

post in OC thread fam

people looking for political discussion left that datamining shit years ago, then 8pol become larper haven
so what you have left is people that periodically migrate there from the rest of 4ch

i posit many of them are too young to care about political theory

Some dude keeps making communist threads on /r9k/.

Go educate.

boards.4chan.org/r9k/thread/33442825/can-communism-work

Done, and some extras.

Now come post on half chan everyone

Get in here

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/103212978
More ripeness

MarX gon' give it to ya

It's already delved into semantics arguments.

I'm baffled - other boards work fine

Happening to me too… wtf

COMRADES! POST YOUR INFOGRAPHS AND SCREENCAPS THAT DEBUNKS NAZI/CAPITALIST BULLSHIT!

well at least I know I haven't gotten some shadowban thing

Is it possible to be just banned from Holla Forums without being notified of it? This is weird.

Nah, I just posted after having the same problem. It's just retarded 4chan technical shit.

Still happening for me but eh, okay. I'll leave it a while.

Infographs are Holla Forumss way of making their info easily digestible. It is something we should do more often.

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/103206424
An interesting thread

Great work everyone on that previous thread. Let's continue this shit tomorrow.

As far as TYT, he's the best of the bunch speaks out against idpol. To compare him to Glenn Beck is just retarded, though, because how many rightists take him seriously?

It is "legitimate", it's a guy from coal country. I'm from the same area he's just speaking his mind - How about you either fuck off or watch the video? You're commenting on it & dismissing it without even watching it.

That Prince of Egypt clip is a cartoon, literally for children. Again, like Glenn Beck, those are shit comparison. Watch the video. I'm surprised people just let this retarded commetn sit there without responding.

Is Hungarian poster here? He has some great pics that he was dropping in an earlier 4/pol/ thread. And he was destroying any argument made against them. I'll see if I can find the link, if it's not cycled through already.

If he doesn't post here, he needs to.

my keyboard is fucked, lmao

We should not just attack Holla Forums but every time we see a political topic on any board post it here and brigade
earlier today I saw a shitstorm on 4/co/ about some feminazi tweeting shit and Holla Forums was trying to take on that thread but Holla Forums is conscious enought hat we can make something good there.

So you are saying that he is the least ideologically calcified of the people on TYT. What resounding praise. If you think that he will be considered any more worthy of attention than Glenn Beck by your opponents, then you are sorrily mistaken.

Any "grassroots folk" who appear on an ideologically driven, propaganda pushing program is NOT "legitimate" - whether that be the Coal Miner on TYT (no, this is not technically TYT, but Dore's constant association with that show ties the two together in the vast majority of matters, and certainly they are uncommonly aligned, and I care little to discuss the technicalities of it's being separate again) or the token black Trump supporter on Fox, it is, in truth, little more than an attempt to persuade people who are outside of "the normal supporters" to switch some of their positions - and these attempts are recognized as such by anyone who is even simply half-minded. He is not "just speaking his mind" - unless "his mind" is full of "information that supports particular ideological conclusions", I.E., he himself is a Leftist.

The Prince of Egypt clip is designed to inform children, who are open-minded and not overly polluted by the manufactured opinions of ideologues (even if you consider Religion to be in this vein, they are still too young for it to have a huge hold on the vast majority of them), whereas your clip is meant for the propaganda-addled, specifically for Leftists in areas like your who want to have an answer to the statements of their Conservatives neighbors. It is meant to be consumed by willing pawns - by the kind of people whose opinion of a headline will change based on whether the word "Republican" or "Democrat" is used.

You can insult the comment if you like, but if you search your feelings, you know that its criticism is sound, whereas your own comes rather lamely off.

/a/ is strange in that regard.
There is a clear Holla Forums presence, but they are also clearly outsiders trying to gaslight (or whatever is named) by saying /a/ was Holla Forums as fuck when /a/ never liked politics even as near as last year's TPP threads (who affected anime and doujins a lot)
Meta threads are also full of people who hate Holla Forums's guts, since they crossboard and shitpost harder that Holla Forums ever did.
This thread is a good example of what I mean
desuarchive.org/a/thread/150860663/

I think every board outside of /k/ has a strong contingent that hates Holla Forums

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/103303508

It's not me making these, and whoever is doing it isn't linking the threads here… Do you think it's actually someone who's not even from Holla Forums making the threads?

even a lot of /k/ hates Holla Forums, strangely enough

the times they are a changing

Get in here!

this thread was pretty good, lots of leftists and every argument Holla Forums made was rebutted

Sounds like every thread ever made by a Leftist in all of human history, officially…

*Rolls eyes at obvious bias*

I'm also a faggot.

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You spelled "Culture" wrong.

I would hope that you would have accepted this by now.

God these fags are so insufferable, literally incapable of arguing.

we already have our own board, theres another thread that discusses how we keep losing people to 4pol because of this tryhard shit. at the beginning it was unpresidented so it had an effect, but its gotten stale and its just all shitposting and anti-communism memes that dont pose any arguments. we get rekked by numbers alone so we cant really break the conditioning. i even ran out of caltrops

Well, that makes one thread out of the past 700 that Lefto-Marxists haven't been completely demolished.

Spouting maymays ain't arguing pal.

You must have missed a couple of hundred paragraphs, because you and yours never seemed interested in responding to them. Not everyone posted memes. Some of us have read Marx, which is why we aren't Marxists of any stripe.

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Child, I don't post infographics.

You're projecting, and you know it.

"Hundreds of paragraphs" tho, top kek

sorry I misread paragraph as infograph
Eitherway I'm sure they were unsourced.

The Soviet Union intentionally committed a genocide in the Ukraine, your Pro-Marxist Historical Revisionism be damned.


You sure seem sure of a lot of things of which you have no direct knowledge.

you too

boards.4chan.org/qa/thread/889743

my head is spinning

Take your retarded "pontification" elsewhere.
Perhaps back to >>>Holla Forums

You're literally defending a religious children's cartoon, and giving excuses to not watch a political clip because it differs slightly in ideology to your own.

Neck yourself. You may be beyond saving.

If they're that stupid, good riddance.

That's the most autistic thing I've seen in a while. Everything is a conspiracy to Holla Forums.

Can this drama get any more wicked?

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/103411190
Get in here.

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/103413446

boards.4chan.org/news/thread/91916

boards.4chan.org/k/thread/32362664
They're having a thread on the m16 vs the ak47!!! Educate them.

It's not just memes, I've seem lots of arguments go unanswered as well. Also we are living in the 2º internetic maymay age so meems are seem as valid arguments by a lot of people.
If you guys don't plan or have the energy to reply to Holla Forums's shitty arguments and anti-commie maymays then I think it's better to stop doing these threads over there. Because every single maymay and "argument" that goes unanswered make it looks like Holla Forums is BTFOing us, no matter how retarded the argument or meme may be.

lel I just noticed they have a new board on here /rwss/

Sad!

Isn't that their autistic "let's report the police for every retarded shit they do in hopes they get their building condemned" LARP?
Did they got kicked from 4chan for being far too autistic?

Yep.

Anyway, gonna dump some links and pics to refute Holla Forumsyps when we argue

Feel free to contribute

fightbacknews.org/2012/10/1/child-malnutrition-eliminated-cuba-us-nearly-quarter-children-hungry

waitingforputney.wordpress.com/2013/10/28/a-beginners-guide-to-soviet-industrialization/

kapitalism101.wordpress.com/2010/05/13/law-of-value-3-das-mudpie/

rt.com/politics/340158-most-russians-regret-ussr-has/

gowans.wordpress.com/2013/12/23/seven-myths-about-the-ussr/

gowans.wordpress.com/2012/12/21/do-publicly-owned-planned-economies-work/

telesurtv.net/english/news/Cuban-Life-Expectancy-Among-the-Highest-in-World-at-78.45-Years-20150526-0011.html

telesurtv.net/english/multimedia/Cubas-Achievements-Over-the-Decades-20160319-0046.html

Nazi Privatisation - ub.edu/graap/nazi.pdf

Hitler Was a Capitalist -pastebin.com/wV97RYQT

Child, we both know that your videos were a poorly veiled attempt to sway Appalachians. Do not pretend that it is anything more, as to do so only eats away at your credibility. I know that 'credibility' doesn't mean much in places such as this, but to the broader society, it is invaluable.

The Prince of Egypt video is, at least, deeper than your political propaganda, and more insightful than the Zombunist Manifesto.

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The only links in that list that are even halfway reasonable are (ironically) RT and University of Barcelona. The rest is literal leftist propaganda, and a couple of them are actually from fucking wordpress.

Hitler was a Not Socialist (National Socialism predates Marxism by the way), who is primarily considered to be "Right Wing" because he hated Communists, and the Nat.Soc "central left" kicked their asses in the streets while the Weimar shot at them.

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I am an Appalachian. You're still commenting on a video you refuse to watch, like a "child".

No one is taking you seriously.

Jesus Christ
>>>/reddit/

Just because you type like a fucking fruitcake doesn't mean everyone who doesn't is younger than you.

and? they're all properly sourced, unlike right wing propaganda


no idea what your point is. they banned unions, communist parties, cut wages etc

I really don't think this is the best way to go about introducing leftist ideas there.

Threads show up all the time with situations ripe for leftist interpretations - start there. One post today was complaining about having shitty job success and working conditions despite high qualifications, and the thread was exclusively porky apology.

It's really difficult to change someone's strong beliefs with clear and direct opposition, and trying often just entrenches their ideas further.

I watched the propaganda. It was obvious propaganda. The first one was five lines from randomfucks and then five minutes of Dore's unsolicited [by me] political opinions.

The second one is SEVENTEEN MINUTES LONG. I could have given you EVERY SINGLE SONG in The Prince of Egypt and still wouldn't be asking as much of your life as you are to shove political propaganda down my throat. I LIVE in Virginia, though I'm on the opposite side of the state, in Leftist Hellhole 3.


You say you don't take the Prince of Egypt seriously. That says more about you than it does about me, Child. When you get a little older, you'll start to appreciate the subtlety of things you now discount.


Got'em.

I assure you, it is a lost cause. As stupid as Holla Forums is, they are still too intelligent to fall for Leftist sophistry.

What the fuck is this?

kek, this is actually a good idea
>>>/rwss/
Is there a way we could do this on nazis?

It's bait stop replying.

Please give examples of said sophistry.

The first wordpress propaganda piece doesn't include sources at all, aside from the half-attributions of the graphs that they have taken (without attribution). "See Appendix C" is not a source.

The second wordpress, while including some sources at the end (and even some that aren't obviously biased upon cursory examination, but which in fact come from consistently Left-Wing papers) includes several which are obviously Leftist propaganda, and even an article by the author of this wordpress himself. The idiot is citing himself as a source.

Hell, even the UB article is incredibly biased, and the University of Barcelona is known for inculcating Leftist sentiment. It is a pseudo-legitimate propaganda machine.

Here you go, projecting again. I never said "propaganda is bad, unless it is muh ideology". Child-mind, you don't even know what my ideology is. You are just shooting "from the hip", and making judgements from your prodigious gut.


They will be rolled out (again) in the next "leftypol" or "Leftist" or "Marxism" spampost. They will likely be argued down, with their rebuttals ignored. I am not fool enough to get into a complex argument on a board operated by people who are diametrically opposed to me. Look at how many people are responding to me as is, and we aren't even getting into specifics. It may come as some surprise to you, but I actually do have better things to do than to argue against outdated ideologies with five people at once.

How convenient. You just have time to shitpost.

c'mon

Hitler was not a socialist. He literally had the socialist elements purged from the party. pseudoerasmus.com/2015/05/06/fascists-part-2/. He is a Right Winger.


Opinion discarded.

Hey Prickly, how fucking stupid are you to post your email publicly?

Sounds like your libtards got destoryed yet again.

You're as retarded as Holla Forums if you think user posts on an user forum can be considered as legitimate, congrats.

WE'RE BREAKING THE CONDITIONING

In reality, some of your members have simply switched tactics.

It is of little consequence.

You are browsing leftypol and probably shit up the general with one of your repeatable funneh meems.
It's already an accomplishment.

Sure thing bud.

The only meme I ever need to post on your shitty threads is this.

youtu.be/PdYLRTGmQ3c

What's up Prickly?

aei.org/publication/why-socialism-always-fails/

Ok Holla Forums I have a job for you. Read this entire article and explain to me why he is wrong?

What is your actual argument in regards to what he says? He brings up factors like the military budget, which is completely accurate, and the prison budget, which ironically he doesn't seem to connect with race, even though most on the left would point out the completely disproportionate amount of blacks in prison.

Honestly, isn't there something slightly pathetic about leftists being so humiliated by the election that now they have to bring in a "voice of the white working man" to console themselves that they haven't completely lost touch with that demographic who used to be core to their identity 60 years ago?

>Hey guys, look, whites are still on our side because we found someone in a 50% black city who dismisses the alt right and brings up some sound leftist arguments that TYT has been ignoring for years not so much Dore, he is better than them in some ways when they decided to go full SJW around 2014 or so.

Because socialism is "worker ownership of the means of production", not
Furthermore even under state ownership one can fundamentally use market forces to direct investment, as various state-owned companies in China do, or as some European state owned companies do. (For example the Dutch national railway company operates the trains in Scotland, because the UK bought the rail privatisation meme.)


Calling myself a woman doesn't get rid of my broad shoulders and 9" cock.

So, by your one-sentence change in definition, what countries have existed that gave Socialism a go? Why do you believe that so many others were unable to do so?

Don't lie.

Your view of the left is very confusing. Most of us are white & working class. Myself, only made $12,000/yr, before I got lucky & got married to someone who happened to not be completely broke. Interestingly enough, he happens to not be American, too.

It's funny that some rightists say we're not in touch with the working class & at the same time we're welfare queens looking for "gibmedats" Even though nothing is "free", it's your tax dollars actually fucking working for you, for once.

He might have brought it up. They were only showing some excerpts. One would think bringing it up would imply this, as you just said they go hand in hand. Our prison state also affects any color, as long as you're poor. Again, I have personal experience with this, being white & poor, growing up in a "bad" neighborhood.

Again - we are this demo. You really have no idea about leftism if you think neoliberals are left.

Just because some countries have "successful" capitalism doesn't mean it's the better economic system. It's just better at crushing, exploiting people & outsourcing itself because it's so ruthless.

I should clarify - we are the working class, not just white. Race/discrimination just alienates fellow workers.

Let's be clear; Leftist states could not stand the combination of economic, social, diplomatic, or military pressure exerted by more Liberal states. Even the smallest amount of malicious espionage threw them into absolute chaos. I don't see how you can defend a system that is so fragile. Economics are not divorced from the rest of it, in reality. You want to talk about ruthless? Trotsky argued for Total War against all Capitalist states, where all things were permissible so long as they "advanced" socialist ideals. Only one of these ideologies, Historically speaking, has ever tried to force itself down the throat of every individual on the planet, destroying whatever cultural institutions offered even mild resistance. Marxism++ is an intellectual/ideological virus.

*and, not or

lolno, famine happened of natural causes, kulaks needed to be killed.

Do you not see how your statements totally just contradicted itself?

#LawOfTheSpikets
#NotAllowingUkrainiansToLeave

What countries have had pure capitalism without nasty state monopolies on things like the military and inefficient theft-and-reallocation of resources via taxation?

No, I didn't.

Marxism++ is a fragile ideology, and even a tiny bit of intelligent resistance can throw it into a tailspin. Why would you want your country - let along, the world - to operate under such a weak system?

I brought up Trotsky because his ultra-aggressive autismo-position is what led to the majority of the world not wanting to associate with the USSR, led to these other nations using their resources AGAINST the USSR, and ultimately was the reason that he had almost nowhere to go after Stalin gave him the boot. He was a man with little forethought, like most of the Leftist "heroes",

Perhaps, but the left itself is very confusing, as is even the definition of what constitutes working class voters in a largely service economy. But we do know that

nytimes.com/2016/11/10/upshot/why-trump-won-working-class-whites.html

The left has had zero concern specific to whites for many decades now, even prior to the shift in the 60s and 70s when racial/gender politics replaced class politics among the far left. I would be surprised if you could find a single video by Jimmy Dore or TYT that explicitly focuses on a problem specific to whites or shows compassion for whites in general. You certainly will never see anything focusing on white or Asian victims of black crime, that's for certain. I doubt there is even a video as to why white suicide is higher than in other races I just checked and didn't see anything


bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36116166

The bottom line is that TYT and Dore don't give a flying fuck about whites. That's not part of their cult.

If you want to disown these guys and say they are more SJW than leftist, that's fine.


Well, that would contradict his earlier statement that it has nothing to do with race. Black incarceration soared in the 1990s and was one of the most important factors in getting crime back then under control.

Now you are submerging your own concerns in favor of the greater good or whatever. One issue that whites & Asians with low incomes have to deal with in much of the country is finding affordable housing in neighborhoods that aren't dangerous because of blacks and Hispanics.

Off the top of my head, I can't name one. I don't see how that is relevant, however, as I am not arguing an extreme position, nor the necessity for a completely free market.

People here seem to like Catalonia a bit.

Say, that third pic is very interesting. I googled it and came accross the paper. I have been looking at stuff about the Soviet cyberneticians, and I'm fascinated at the possible use of the computer to enable a planned economy. You got any more material on any of this?

if you sell your labor, you're working class

they're still working class and still divested from actual ownership of productive property (in some cases) but if they serve the interests of the bourgeoisie it doesn't matter

It has more to do with unleaded gasoline than boxin up the nigs my dude.

Yet you have no issues with claiming the left has no concern for it. Again, you are confusing liberals/neoliberals with being left. Your entire post goes on to confuse this, yet again.

We're not concerned with a certain demo regarding race, mainly just with the poor/working class. Your boner for only the white race is concerning & clouds your reasoning.

I'm not advocating for TYT. I like Jimmy Dore, and he specifically calls out idpol & capitalism by name, in almost every video. It's only a matter of time before he's forced to part ways with TYT, because of this.

Again, I don't care about TYT. Sanders though makes this connection about the white/working class, high suicide rates & life expectancy dropping, often. Many on the left do. You're just watching MSM, apparently, which is of course largely capitalist.

Fucking lurk more so you have an idea what we think in general, before making such retarded posts.

What are you talking about? Crime is high in poverty stricken areas because not only are they targeted by police(which creates criminals & crime-culture to be perpetuated), but people are depressed, unemployed & demoralized. Are you trying to say that black people are more inherently violent than whites & Asians? They're just more disproportionally in poverty compared to the other races, so they're hit harder, socially.

That's what Marx called it. Socisalsm runs completely against human nature. Socialists worry more about other people's problems instead of their own. For example, while most people care more about what they want to eat today, a socialist would rather care more about some stranger who can't pay his bills. That runs completely against basic human nature, and Socialists are blind to that. The interest of yourself compells you to help others, while the socialist will neglect himseldn in favor of that starving African in Ethiopia. That is why Capitalism is more productive than Socialism ever was and could ever hope to be.

And who do you think is paying for the government to do all that? Denmark can pay for it because the tax rate is around 50%, so half of what a Dane makes goes straight to the government. China's work because China's government controls everything. Not mention Chinese people pay almost 64% in taxes.

Marx was also a spoiled rich kid who never knew human nature because he was sheltered his entire life.

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Whose definition of "working class" is that? Marx Himself would have included most of what we consider "the service industry" today in his definition of the term "bourgeoisie".

stopped reading there


read a fucking book

guess again retard

t. someone that's never read marx

Most people are good. They just want to live their lives & not be bothered.
Do you also believe only religion gives morality?

Both of these statements are true.

100% of the Marxists++ waste their money on daily $10+ meals and vanity entertainment items, and THEN bitch about how "capitalism" is keeping them down, in between putting in 6 hours of Warframe and smoking pot.


Child, I HAVE read Marx. The meaning of the GERMAN WORD "Bourgeoisie" means "one who lives in a Bourg", where "Bourg" means "walled town or city". What works of Marx have 🍀🍀🍀you🍀🍀🍀 read?

***Of the Marxists I know

We need to make a word filter for "child", I guess.

Marx co-authored an article for his college newspaper, then got exiled to England, where the British Crown allowed he and his friend Engels(who was the son of a wealthy industrialist) to publish their works for almost a decade, which were then disseminated to the chief rivals of Britain; namely Germany, France, and the Netherlands.

Marx was a NEET.

Nah, you just need to get a filter for people who haven't read Marx, but want to pretend like they have.

Then even most or all corporate CEOs are working class. That's generally not how people use the term.


which started in 1923.


Not according to this paper, which is kind of interesting.


pricetheory.uchicago.edu/levitt/Papers/LevittUnderstandingWhyCrime2004.pdf


Nobody else seems to give a damn about whites.


I'm responding to someone who posted a Jimmy Dore video clip, so it's hard to have it both ways. I like that Dore still talks about some things like Western imperialism that TYT barely covers anymore, but in general my comments can apply just as well to his show alone.


Sanders is or at least was more of an old-school leftist. His support was also overwhelmingly from whites. He never gained traction among black voters and apparently not even Hispanic voters.


Crime tracks race far more closely than it does income levels.


We were just talking about suicide rates are higher for whites, so it's maybe hard to make a generalized claim that blacks are more depressed/demoralized, hence more crime.


You could argue genetics or culture, but in neither case will you find an enemy on the political right.

The word bourgeois is French you dumb fuck Marx got Bourgeois from the Bourgeois French revolution where the middle or merchant class overthrew the ruling class

What are your notable accomplishments?


You'd be barred from posting, then, long ago.

I have both a degree and I have a job. That puts me ahead of Marx. I have even been to more continents than Marx. Woo.


Sorry, you're right. Don't ask me why I said German. I blame the Fenugreek.

Maybe in your paranoid mind.

No, they can't, because it's painfully obvious you've not watched his show.

The majority of the population is white, you dunce. And his support among age 30 & under black & hispanic voters put Clinton to shame.

My God.. Did you even read my comment? Certain races are disproportionately in poverty.

Pfft, so says the idio-illiterate who claims that he is a Marxist but still hasn't read any of his works.

I meant: What are your contributions to society?

I've donated money to charity, I hold a job (which contributes to society), I keep people in business, and I am a non-partisan anti-war activist and have been for over five years.

Have you ever heard it pronounced? Bourgeoisie is as French as Audrey Tautou….

It's very, very, very difficult to win the Democratic nomination without the solid support of the black and Latino voters.


Even if that were true, it didn't matter:

fusion.net/story/323539/how-bernie-sanders-lost-black-voters/


Did you read mine? ">Crime tracks race far more closely than it does income levels."

So, nothing as notable as classic critique on an economic system.

How so? Does it empower them?


People don't want your charity, they want a means to make a living & to be self-sufficient. You're holding them back by defending capitalism & therefor the police state which exploits/enforces this.

It is French. I'm just on several grams of supplements and I'm not thinking completely clearly.

>It's very, very, very difficult to win the Democratic nomination without the solid support of the black and Latino voters an actually democratic system
Fixed.

Citation needed. If you're talking about America, I gave you the reasons - there's many factors, not just race/discrimination. That's an asinine way to look at the complex issue of poverty in capitalism.

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I have contributed more than Marx did at my age, of that there is no question. I have also written for my school's paper.

How does me performing labor enrich the society? How does my providing people with the means to continue doing the labor they choose to do, rather than what the State dictates they do, contribute to society?

You clearly don't live in my area. People absolutely do want charity. Today, I saw three people panhandling next to thrift stores that hire homeless people. My city has a prepared food tax to help keep the welfare system running. EBT pays for more than half as much food in the grocery stores as any other means of purchase.

You're full of shit, and you know it. My "defending capitalism" isn't doing anything to "hold them back", any more than your "defending socialism" is enslaving them. Arguing ideas on the internet in no way "contributes to their oppression" or whatever idiot-fodder rhetoric you think sounds cool enough to convince someone.

Let's be very clear, asshole; while your coffeeshop revolutionary ass is pushing shit that you don't understand about other shit that you don't understand, your complete silence on the crimes of YOUR GOVERNMENT around the world is allowing for the deaths of tens of thousands of innocents each year. You didn't give a shit about the people of Afghanistan when the Soviets invaded, and you don't *really* give a shit about them now, nor the people of Syria, nor anyone who isn't living in a Leftist Hellhole.

Charity is just a bourgeois indulgence meant to make the giver feel good at the expense of actually doing anything to fix the problem.

So say the selfish pieces of shit who don't contribute in any meaningful way.

poverty is only one factor.
Population density, familial situation, and maybe cultural factors more difficult to measure come into play, for race have heavy social implications.

I wonder if there is a study about the reject of work and studying as a White thing

Afghanistan was a seculsr soviety before the mahujadeen.

It does include the source - Robert C. Allen’s Farm to Factory: A Reinterpretation of the Soviet Industrial Revolution
Yes, and? Historians do it all the time
Oh no, the horror


Sorry comrade, I don't. I think an user posted it in the econ thread on here

And?

Does that make the hundred thousand people who died in the almost-decade long war less important?


These sources are obvious REVISIONIST drivel. They are about as legitimate as the people who want to call the Holocaust a hoax. It is shit, for people who like an ideology, by people who like an ideology. It is little more.

Isn't capitalism great, guys?

You know nothing about me, guy. It's amazing you think that you do, by a couple of comments on an anonymous imageboard. For the record - I live in India. I'm outspoken against the crimes of the US. Their foreign policy more directly affects myself & my family than when I was living in the states.

You assume/claim to know a lot of things. It only makes you look silly.

The Holodomor narrative is a form of historical revisionism retard it really didn't gain ground in serious academic circles till the 1980s.

Ukrainians weren't allowed to leave because there was starvation all over the USSR. Even Snyder admits that millions also died from hunger in Russia and Kazakstan. Seeing as it effected the entire USSR its difficult to see it as genocide that and the fact that the real as opposed to fabricated documents and statements in indicating intent are non-existent, that also indicates that it wasn't intentional or genocide.

And I want to be clear - ~100,000 is the LOWEST estimate I've seen. Most Western sources list the loss of Afghani life to be in the millions.

We've been voting Lefty for decades. This shit is on faux-populi.

Lie as you will. We both know the truth. Where in India do you live?

Where in the Hell did you blow in from?

youtube.com/watch?v=uN0yI-ambNY

No problem, friend.

Go to faculty.washington.edu/matsueda/courses/587/readings/Krivo Peterson 1996.pdf

It looks at census data in Columbus Ohio in 1990. They compare black and white criminality between these two groups while factoring in almost every variable that you can imagine. If you go to pages 7 and 8, these are the variables

1) Family disruption - percent of families headed by females
2) Male joblessness - percent of males 16 and older who are unemployed
3) Occupational composition - percent of persons age 16 or older who are in professional and managerial occupations.
4) Rental occupancy - the percent of dwelling units that are renter occupied
5) vacancy rate - the percent of all dwelling units that are vacant

I want to note that making so many variables really places this in a thought-experiment bubble, as a race realist argument would be that many of those factors could similarly relate to the poor adaptation that blacks may have to living in a modern society. IOW, the fact that blacks may underperform across the board simply shows a spectrum of issues, and doesn't necessarily clear them from speculation that they tend to be more violent.

Anyway, the results were fascinating. If you go to page 19 and look at the bar charts, you will see that blacks and whites both scored similarly for Property Crime. In fact, whites in high and extreme poverty consistently outscored blacks in that area.

Then, go to page 20, and look at the 15 bars comparing black and white Violent Crime. On every single one, blacks are more violent than whites.

All of this puts aside the fact that you are looking at a much larger percentage of the black population than the white one. These are the very bottom level of whites in terms of socioeconomic indicators, with a high proportion of addicts and mentally ill.

Probably only briefly, my friend. Once 8ch is fixed, I'll be gone.

Soups kitchens sure lift people out of poverty.

Give someone a fish, he'll eat one day.
Teach him fishing he'll eat all his life.

Sure, a few guys can live another day. But in no way that can solve poverty.
t.some guy who used to do charity
That's still efficient propaganda tho

"serious academic circles = Leftist academic circle-jerks.

The law of the Spikets was real, even if you want to say that the whole USSR was starving (~2m people, and ~5m in the Ukraine - remember that the USSR denied that it was anything like that number for decades)…in no way could a reasonable person think that was a halfway intelligent idea. It is so clear to anyone who even tries to look at the matter objectively that, at best, the USSR was an Imperialist state that was concerned primarily with Russia, with its other satellites being secondary in importance…and at worst, that it intentionally killed a group of people who had been trying, unsuccessfuly to break away for a decade (and which were recognized as a legitimate State whereas the USSR was not).


You're a piece of shit, and you know it.

People have actually gone to Rojava and fought alongside YPG/YPJ against Daesh. It tends to be more interesting then just simply tossing change someones way. That is just one example of third world aid. Hell, encouraging people to start up so-ops if they can is better. Not saying money pooling isn't useful, but half of them are a joke, and some 'non-profit' institutions have actually kept a large chunk of donations.


I seriously hope your not American.


I can guess somewhere in yourope?

"People" have, but not YOU. YOU are just sitting there, "criticizing capitalism" while every last thing you enjoy in life comes out of it. Doing good isn't about what is interesting. Go start a co-op if you want to - thank Adam Smith that such activities are allowed under our system.

Your own source & what you listed goes against it being inherent in the race. Well done.

Whine all you want, shriek. Virtue signalling how better you are than the Starbucks drinking pinkos on an anonymous imageboard, you know it is true.
Charity just go to 0 to 1 to 0 again because while you're throwing a small glass of water on the fire, the flamethrower is still going wild.


Yeah that's why it goes nowhere. That's ugly, but that's how it works.

lel, thanks for that i needed a good laugh.

Show me a societal change that didn't involve the loss of life. And most people fighting the Soviets were western backed Islamists, so fuck them.

Oh dear.
The revenue those services earn. State owned enterprise is not inherently unprofitable.

Not to mention that your tax-rate example is inherently unrepresentative since it ignores banding.
(Fun fact! Margaret Thatcher cut the UK's top rate of income tax, but during her term in office increased overall tax-burden as a % of GDP because she put up VAT to compensate - in effect a massive gift to Porky paid for by the working and middle class!)

The stats as shown back my position. This is a conventional paper that was even referenced by Tim Wise to back up some argument of his, but apparently he never read it.

It is a flawed study for the reasons I mentioned earlier, as you are looking at numerically much different cross sections for each group, plus it is only looking at crime relative to income, and not crime as a whole.

But even giving you all of those advantages, it still makes my point.

No, it does not. You mention it's flawed, but if to prove your point, then flawed isn't even the word. It looks a higher numbers of blacks, who are already suffering under these conditions. You'd need a control of both races, one not being exploited. Are you retarded?

And I see idiots on Holla Forums post these types of studies all of the time to try to make this point. They don't even bother to read them.

It just makes them feel better about themselves. Stats & context be damned.

What did Kek mean by this?

suuuure they are

Posting a pic of Jim Jones refutes this?

What are you even talking about? Who is "not exploited?"

Maybe that last report was too subtle for you. Let's go for the sledgehammer.

thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/04/15/race-poverty-and-crime/

LOL

Not him, but in all honesty,
Most people think they are good. But there is often a small or big gap between what they think they are good and what they're effectly doing.
Not to mention that defining objectively "good" is a nightmare
That one is true

Both are exploited - one moreso than the other.

It wasn't subtle, it didn't prove your point. One would think you'd provide the "sledgehammer, first.

Yeah, you're retarded.

So, an ad hom and the iPhone argument? Ah nice.

Capitalism doesn't make anything. People do. It's an organization of labor, not a force of nature. This mode of labor has produced unprecedented amount of products, and even Marx has praised it, but not without a cost, with things like planned obsolescence, trade deals, artificial scarcity, and other wonderful contradictions. The criticism is still valid, which is why one should plan accordingly. This is also an argument from authority, since it's like saying I can't criticize something because it might have things I like, or that I shouldn't question the way things are becuase 'that's just how they are hurr hurr'. You weigh the good with the bad, friend. Hell, most of these things will still exist after Capitalism, depending on what style of socialism, or FALC much like how many things produced under feudalism still exist today, and have a net improvement because of it. We can always do better.

Also, fuck 'doing good. I want efficiency, not kumbaya.


'Good' and 'bad' are spooks.

Obviously this is what I mean by "good".

tell this dummy

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I'm not him, cretin

Translation: We Were Just Too Smart to Win!

Conservatism is truly "I'm smart but lazy" the philosophy. If you were truly so smart you would be dominating academia right now instead of crying about its bias,

Even Robert Conquest, the man most responsible for popularizing the Holodomor myth who also happened to be a British spy stopped believing in it (or perhaps never truly did):

>Our view of Stalin and the famine is close to that of Robert Conquest, who would earlier have been considered the campion of the argument that Stalin had intentionally caused the famine and had acted in a genocidal manner. In 2003, Dr. Conquest wrote to us explaining that he does not hold the view that 'Stalin purposely inflicted the 1933 famine. No. What I argue is that with resulting famine imminent, he could have prevented it but put "Soviet interest" other then feeding the starving first–thus consciously abetting it. (pg 47)

Some crazy leftist revisionist historian, am I right?
And before you bitch about Furr being the source he's quoting from Davies and Wheatcroft and not using his own words here, so that objection isn't at all relevant.

gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=4F13589002A3DFA4B0139B332FEF54AD

Yeah, you're just the one who thinks Marxism is related to autism. Not any better.

*the champion of

Moronic.

Why were you so upset about what I posted? I clarified right after that, with:

What's your issue?

That is your ideological projection.


In every example, blacks were more violent than whites. It was so consistent that it was kind of shocking, given the disparity in terms of cross-section of the population. Hence, you saw property crimes were actually higher in many instances among whites, though they are considerably lower among whites on a per capita basis.


Because I assumed it was more likely you would do something like the "you're retarded" response that you just gave when hit with data that overwhelming.

I've made these arguments many times, the evasion gets kind of predictable after a while.


Exactly, a non-response is what your side does.

youtube.com/watch?v=QwCCj8Dx-gk

Especially rich coming from a "race realist".

You've already given your own reasoning why the study is flawed.

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/103515283
So I just decided to kick the anthill again.

friendly reminder not to argue with Holla Forumscucks here because they're just trying to distract you from disrupting their echochamber on 4chan

Who is that?

Nice trips. I'm not sure documentary is called "Finally Got the News" about a group called the Detroit Revolutionary Union Movement (DRUM): youtube.com/watch?v=RgJd_MvJVzg

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what the fug someone DELETE THIS

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Folks, we've got to infiltrate Holla Forums again, with enough of us, we will have ultimate strength.

Aye comrade! To each their own and to own their each… err something like that.

Death to Nazis!

Can I wear my fedora while we march to war on your mom's internet connection?

So you guys in your threads just circlejerking and linking to halfchan. You can't stand yourselves, you are so lonely and desperate for real discussion you are willingly swim with sharks.
You don't care what other people think about you and just spew your opinion. I almost feel sorry for miserable life, but then i remind that you are communist and don't deserve to live.
t. citizen of former Warsaw Pact

of course not, what kind of cucko does?

Engage in debate, rather than being so salty.

I'm not so sure that "mod bro" even made those posts. No idiot would willingly post his email in a thread here like that.

We're engaging in debate, not raiding, anyway. No need to be underhanded about it. A lot of people browse all sorts of boards. No one sticks to only one board or site, anyway.

I can't debate a braindead man who distrubuted his wealth among community to be eqally poor. You have to be retarded to believe that no man want to achieve wealth. Greed is what puts humanity in motion.

this is your brain on ayn rand

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exactly

stop implying, it doesn't make you smarter

so which one of your spooks do you want me to bust first

I just want to post to clear up some concerns about the mod that Hiroshima fired ( boards.4chan.org/qa/thread/894474 ). He was one of our allies, but he wasn't Modbro or me, and he wasn't from Holla Forums. Rather, he was from weird twitter. We were talking to him in a backchannel and were trying to encourage him to tone down the rhetoric or else he would get exposed. Obviously he was a hothead and now he can't help us anymore.

However, rest assured we still have positions on the Holla Forums mod team. They're confused because they don't understand how we exploited the Janitor hiring system. Let's just say there are some pretty bad security flaws.

Daily reminder

WERE FUCKING COMING
BUCKO

i've missed all this drama, what happened exactly?

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/103614481

good to see such high quality rebuttals from Holla Forumsyps

Modbro here, Loving Every Laugh. Stay tuned, while hothead is gone, we're nearly ready to ennact our greatest plan yet. Believe me, you will know when it hits.

Have we started the fire?

Nice try faggot.

How come we've been raided so often lately? Did Holla Forums found out that the 8ch.pl was a mistake and that we used it as a decoy?

Jesus it was a few threads consisting of spam hardly a raid why did they get so triggered?

It was unrelated, it was an autistic furfag named bui attacking the whole site.

it took us more than a year, but we finally have unlimited power. we infilitrated with new mods, snuck in a few through the applications, and converted or bribed the remaining. Nothing can stop our /left/ generals now!

If I knew doing this was a low maintenance job, I'd have done it sooner.

Remember negative PR is still better than no PR, so keep it up.

Holla Forumsyps can't handle intrusions that break the right-wing delusion

Nice refutation.


Janitor reporting in, Comrade

They can distribute, but they can't pocket for shit.

Then it's a pitty that the USSR didn't killed your ancestors…Now there would be one less corrupt cunt on the world.

t. kulak

This. I can't wait to purge the remaining Holla Forumsyp mods. Communist coup of Holla Forums when? We just need a few more mods and we'll be set.

We maybe paranoid autistic shitposters, but we're not falling for it Cuckrade.

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4chan doesn't have board specific mods you retard.

Saying you're going to replace the "remaining" Holla Forumsyp mods just shows you don't have a fucking clue.

Go back to your basement… your turn to be Dungeon Master. The rest of your unemployed social outcast crew needs you.

Capitalism ain't gonna fix itself. It has no reason to.

If I killed a capitalist and claimed I didn't kill a human that would be pretty fucking spooky.

Holla Forumsyp in mind, not in permissions.

Key word, I didn't say replace Holla Forums mods. I said replace mods who are Holla Forumsyps.

Took you long enough to cone up with that one.

Almost as long as I'd have to wait in line for a loaf of bread under communism.

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Yep… that nasty thing called work.

A nice home, 70" TV, brand new car, new game console, money in the bank, food in the kitchen…

Clearly this whole work thing is unproductive. I'd be better off broke and poor, living off friends and family, pretending to be a freedom fighter…. like EVERY commie loser I've ever run into.

Is role-playing fun?

you sound generic and boring af

Like pottery.

Our final plan will take place soon. Hiro will sell the website to us. we've been using our position to fuck around in the backend. inflating costs, diverting money, sabotaging advertiser relations. Hiro is absolutely convinced the site costs 92k a month to run, and no one can convince him otherwise. soon he will sell it to us. We've already got an israeli investor Amdocs Lmtd who are willing to pay for part of it in exchange for all the user data. when we take over, we'll append all the boards with lefty. Leftya, leftyb, leftynew, and most of all leftypol.

And then we're going to range ban all american flags

Yeah give it to those Nazi fucks.

I'm with you commiebros. Sign me up! What do I have to do to be one of you officially? I hate that damn frog and all the autism over there at that "other place"

We have enough resources for everyone to not be poor. Those who greedily hoard the 1% of wealth are the ones who screw the rest of the population.

Wrong. Human endurance & motivation has been there long before capital. Can you imagine how advanced we could be, had every person had the access to education that is only limited to those with enough money to afford it? We'd be excelling in more fields than we are, currently. Just because of a different economic system, we don't suddenly lose motivation or all of these technological & scientific advancements. How on Earth would that be the case?

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Oh just learning about gummunism and fedoras.

send an email to [email protected]/* */ he'll add you to the raid party and let you into the groupchats.

>>>Holla Forums
My God you guys are transparent, low effort shitposter. Trying to gather faux screencaps to share with your paranoid brethren?

No one's buying it, retard.
None of you will engage in debate, for obvious reasons. You just want to spam garbage. Take it back to 4/pol/. We have adult conversations here.

On 4chan? They don't exist. Many of the remaining mods are leftists themselves, but won't ban Holla Forumstards out of obvious principle and because Hiroyuki is the owner, a shady businessman, not a friend of the rest of the team like moot was). Also remember 4chan is and has always been severely understaffed, there have barely been changes in all of these 13 years.

Don't be a party pooper

can't act tough when that's exactly what you faggots were doing for the past 2 weeks. I almost felt bad for you and tried to stop it, but nothing could stop you once you had your png of le evil communist conspiracy to ban off-topic threads and spammers.

You are so full of shit, you haven't fucked over nothing goyim.

Do you have any idea how much more effort has been spent to raid Holla Forums before?
You will inevitably fail. It's like invading Russia in the winter. You are guaranteed to lose.

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

FUCKING LEFTISTS

YOU. KEEP. LOSING.>>1164595

That's weird, there's something I seem to recall right-wingers losing…

I got these trips for your, Holla Forums, now it's your turn to post in this thread
boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/103689000

good thread. Get in here.

based

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/103696216

Anyone game for this one?

some of these people are a lost cause, honestly.

too sleepy for infograph wars. maybe next time.

Any other commie twinks secretly dream of getting buttfucked by literal nazis?

You can try the entire decade, 4/pol/ will never be leftist.

can this be a liberal tears thread now?

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good communist is a dead communist

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can't seize these memes

You know you can upload more than one image at once right? That's a feature here. You're not limited like you are on 4/pol/

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this takes up more space

its more annoying this way.

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jesus christ have mercy on your souls

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#feelthestirn my EPIC comrades!!!

le ifunny XD XD XD

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Wow sure is SPOOKY in here (haha le reference to stirner, read him up!!!)

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let's ROAST some PORKIES (haha get it you guys)

Holla Forums is literally the embodiment of the system and they don't even realize it

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This Porky never fails

oh man the memes are real here.

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Ive never been to *Anarcho-Communism* 8fag user, is it a nice country?

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you got a nice collection their friendo

the harvest was plentiful this year, friend

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I'm disappointed Holla Forums didn't even have it in them to spam this thread for an hour

Holla Forums is an amazing place to analyse group dynamics of the NEET milieu of the 21st century

Holla Forums also has a lot of wealthy users. it's why they're so anti-communist. a mix of brainwashed lumpens and snobs

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Where do I sign up?

It's quite a common word in my country but you're probably a hillbilly

Why don't Holla Forumsyps hang themselves?

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The term "tankie" has been arround for half a century, we aren't born out of a chan culture.

Also, Stalin memes are used by anarchists as well.

does it matter where you came from? the issue is that you exist

many "anarchists" are just punks where as "tankies" are students, little difference except the ideological patina

I was merely stating that we didn't meme ourselves into existence with Pepe the frog. Earlier you were claiming we are just like Holla Forums.
Well Holla Forums is a non-sectarian board, if you have a massive issue with certain tendencies feel free to debate them whenever and wherever. We are already low in numbers compared to the alt-right, and all you want to do is split us even more…?

I'd rather live in Stalinist Russia than a fascist state

What does that candle man mean?

the aut-right makes disney song parodies

youtube.com/watch?v=JWzjn0N9g4g

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/103699259

New thread btw

Is it just me or did the shitposting decrease and some people actually come forward claiming that even though they aren't commies, they still appreciate Holla Forums not becoming an echo chamber?

desuarchive.org/a/thread/151174272/
You can almost see the exact moment some Holla Forumsyp crosslinked that thread.
It's cancerous even for metathread standards.

Jesus, the memes are true, you really do worship him like a father. You realize that makes you a "beta", right?

It's a shame you want to be a spammer rather than engage in political conversation. This is what needs to change about 4/pol/. That's why you're magnets for angsty teens.

We're not liberal or idpol here, either. Fucking lurk more.


At least babies don't hate him.

Ultimate classcuck.

Oh, Christ.. That is so fucking sad.
I'm honestly at a loss for words.

that thread is going pretty good.

Am I the only one who thinks the Red Panels guy is literally retarded?

Dunno, he seems worse than the usual Holla Forumsyp. Like, he takes the most ridiculous "checkmate, commies" fallacies and uses it without a hint of irony. When I first saw his comics, I thought he was a leftist being ironic.

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/103729656

Another one. Keep making 'em comrades, and keep scouring for ones worth contributing to.

Let's have an honest discussion here: you guys really suck at this. Let's see if I can help you out.


The closest thing I can think of for communism was the study of East Germany vs West Germany in terms of happiness, or something along those lines.

If you go in like a low-effort troll, then your thread will be treated with as much respect as any other troll threads.


I don't know why doctrinaire leftists are so unfunny, when standup comics who lean left and many others actually are funny. Borrow stuff from Tom Tomorrow and Robert Crumb if you can't come up with anything creative.

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It was some /po/cuck that thought we were liberals

we do all our raids by visiting apple stores and shitposting using their display computers

it's called direct action.

Bad idea. We don't want to increase traffic here, and we'll just lure in shitposters. We want to actually change the wider narrative.

Holla Forums is such an echo-chamber and their ideas reinforce themselves. They won't accept ideas that come from outside of Holla Forums. If they believe that socialist ideas exist within Holla Forums, more of them will consider it a viable ideology, and thus actually come round to it.

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/103845070

GET IN HERE AND FIGHT, FAGGOTS

I'd give it 8 years of Republican rule.

I hope you're happy your shitty trolling got Holla Forumsacks so mad the retarded 4chan manager had to use one of the few good mods as a scapegoat to calm them down.

Could you try not being a cock gurgling faggot just for like a second

What next, democratic centralism around Trump?

Might not be that easy considering Trump gets to dictate the right and wrong answer

Fair enough. It would be great though if this board could grow, especially if you're bringing in people from outside of 8ch.net.

I still think the idea is good, but if you don't want to do it with 4/pol/, then understood.

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/103878665

Srsly who is making these…

godspeed that spanish user

It's Holla Forums crossboarding and chimping out at the minimal provocation also our fault?

boards.4chan.org/co/thread/88580332

based Spaniard

that thread is pretty funny

Can we all agree that /mu/ and Holla Forums are the only leftist boards?

I never visit them so I'll take your word for it

I don't go on Holla Forums really, but I know it's more left. /mu/ is the only board that is vehemently anti-Holla Forums I use.

what about /his/ and /int/?

I don't really use /his/ and I periodically browse /int/, but my experience has been that there's about 50% Holla Forums crossover on each. If you try to make a "lol niggers sux at moosics" thread on /mu/, you'll get told to fuck off and your thread will be deleted.

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/103940881

idz habbeding

You've successfully described yourself.


Yep.

fuck, I need to watch The princess and the frog now

I am trying to weaponize incels by telling them Chad is always rich.

It's kind of working.

have you got the quote by Marx about capitalism's effect on the family?

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/104021969
Get in here, comrades!

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Not a great one tbh

This is a p good idea

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/104027688/

New thread, made by that Spanish comrade again. Do you think he's a leftypol user, or just a brave soul out there alone?

we need to keep this up tbh

Hey, here from 4/pol/, i don't even know what you have done, just that annoying leftypol general i shitpost in, still, i'm actually more left than the average Holla Forums user so i don't mind

I suspect there are many. It would be great of it were more a place to discuss politics realistically than shitpost. Hopefully more leftists come out of the woodwork & make it so.

yeah there's way too many edgy pinochet fags shitting the place up, Holla Forums actually needs to embrace the socalist part of there ever loved hitler's ideology

That's what confuses me. Many claim to be Nazis but shit on socialism, lmao.

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yeah, I'm not fully socialist, on most political tests i end in the middle economically, but there needs to be a healthy mix, probably slightly more to the socialist side since i'm fine with state healthcare, welfare if its allocated correctly, and state industry so long as it isn't a state monopoly, Holla Forums meanwhile will call bankers filthy kike bastards in one thread and then defend there right to scam everyone in the next

kek, i haven't seen that in a while, saved

I'm actually really close to that, myself. And when it comes to healthcare, I got to the point where I realized _some_ healthcare is much better than _none_. I'd much rather have my taxes actually doing something tangible, as well.

Damn it, that formatting.. I've been commenting on Youtube all day.

yeah, you need something so people aren't being abused, but also allow for there to be better healthcare on offer if you can pay for it, just make sure to tax the guys charging for it plenty, and put that money back into the state healthcare, also make the sure the state healthcare isn't a inefficient nightmare, because thats really the main problem in the uk, the private stuff is way more efficient, better service for the same cost as a state hospital, but then they just charge more to the consumer anyway, if the state wasn't so goddamn shit at running stuff there probably wouldn't be a need for private healthcare

Private healthcare being efficient is a meme using cherrypicked data in order to build positive PR for companies

Huh, if you have any data or studies i'd like to see them, tbh i am speaking from personal experiences of family and friends in both situations but i'm open to any new studies

All you have to do is compare the US and the UK. The NHS, despite being a government-run service, has some of the best treatment facilities in the world, while the US is self-explanatory.

I live in the uk, Thats why i said i and family have been in good and bad government hospitals, and good and bad private ones, however, from overall experience the private ones tend to be on the better side, which is why i'm fine with people who want to pay for private doing it, but also pro having state healthcare for everyone who doesn't want to or can't pay private outside there taxes and other expenses

Why not just go full on Nazbol gang?

I agree that with many issues, there's definitely a healthy balance to be found somewhere in the middle.

Pretty fucking close to it, give me a few more months and i'll either be nazbol or a Asserite

Well i think you gotta give people some ability to work to better themselves, and you can always tax private healthcare or private schools, none of that charitable no tax shit

Yeah "charitable status" for shit like that grinds my gears. Religious organizations that get it too

Yeah, i mean there for profit so they should pay taxes, abolish that and i wouldn't have a problem with them, but its stupid they get off of paying taxes on such a large amount of profit they can make, that could help the state schools and healthcare be even better rather than having to pay extra for better

This is foolish on so many levels.

For starters, Holla Forums is supposed to be open to all ideologies for argument and debate purposes, but in practice this requires a right-leaning board to exist. Why? Because a left-leaning board is fertile grounds for identity politics and the resulting safe-space mentality. Which of course leads to draconian bans of everyone who isn't pure enough. A right-leaning board is inoculated to this threat because the last place feminists and SJWs will want to own is one where "nigger" and "kike" are plastered everywhere.

Next, you're raiding a board and subverting it. That means you aren't looking for neutral grounds, it means you're looking to commandeer it and turn it into your own torture chamber. In other words, you saw how influential Holla Forums was for the last election and want that for yourselves.


Bullshit. Just like with Reddit, whenever leftists coopt a forum or website, it starts out seemingly benign and mellow, and then before long goons infiltrate and bring hordes of Feminist tools into it. Then you just have Facebook/Reddit/Twitter 2.0

Like it or not the Nazi presence on Holla Forums boards is like barbed wire against that threat.

Then there's the fracturing of communities that happens. Leftists have an excellent history of coopting emergent movements and then breaking them up so that they fall into obscurity. Occupy Wall Street is a famous example, but even on this website GamerGate was divided and fell into obscurity because Holla Forums was furious at the admins of HQ and decided to troll them into joining Revolt, which caused massive confusion and drama and helped weaken the movement overall.

Mark my words, that if you somehow coopt Holla Forums and remake it, it will just become yet another version of Reddit, full of blanket bans on "hate speech" and "offensive content" and then it will lose all of its momentum on the internet.

Actually, if you really want to raid a place, raid 8pol. THEY are a torture chamber and safespace. They could really use new admins who don't ban you on the basis of political leanings.

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lol stopped reading there

Indeed

That's impossible

hur wut iz a VPN

Hahaha


This is so fucking hilarious because both 4/pol/ and 8/pol/ are already literally drowning in identity politics. "muh master race" and "nigger" and "kike" are just the right wing versions of the "muh pc language" and "racist" and "bigot". You autists have your heads stuck so far down stormfront's asshole, you can't even hear how ridiculous you sound.


Whoa whoa, hold on, you bootlickers are so fucking stupid that you think you influenced the election???

If y'all actually did do anything, it would have hurt Trump because you cucks can only make Nazi and racist memes that turn 90% of people off. Jesus christ, get out of your fucking echo chamber, how delusional can you be?


Lol, I fucking wish.

Honestly, I wasn't completely on board with the idea of raiding Holla Forums, because I thought it was a massive waste of time and energy, but seeing you lolcows bawwwwwwww over a few lefty threads that apparently showed up over the course of a few days has got me cranking up my VPNs. Your tears are delicious, prepare to have your torture chamber anally probed

I doubt the 4/pol/ has enough critical thinking skills to realize they're only inciting more posters to shit on their board by making all these tl;dr BAAWWWWW replies at what is effectively a classic raid.

That said, they are all post-2014 faggots so I doubt they knew what a raid looked like in the first place.

you had decent points until you brought this up tbh

but i don't think any imageboard is in danger of becoming an overmoderated safespace like other forums. especially not 4/pol/, ffs.

If it weren't hilarious, it would be really embarrassing.

they have taken over .pl leftypol in retaliation, but thats not really an accomplishment. its actually not a big change, 4chans pol is the easiest place on the internet to bait, trolls have been going there forever cause 4pol can't figure out how to not bump a thread. during the election you would see way more hill baiting threads than you see communist generals now.

yeah, we can't not bump for shit
the only way i've seen your threads be defeated is gore dumps

Newest thread:
boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/104090997

Lol… yeah that thread is doing so well, indeed.

Everyone one of your posts get ruined. Your little raid has yielded zero fruit. You underestimate the average intelligence of a Holla Forumsack. You really do. You assume we're just a bunch of mindless sheep willingly marching to our destruction. But, the truth is we have a considerable pool of intellectuals who have views grounded in legitimate arguments.

The problem is you plebs are so arrogant you can't consider any counterpoint that challenges your presuppositions.

Holla Forums sees you as bunch of undereducated social outcasts who cling to a dead ideology as a means of fitting in. Much like the goth. You don't engage in debate. Because you can't. You get rekked everything you try, what makes it worse is we KNOW what you're up to. We know you're not posting for a legitimate discussion… you're just raiding, irritating us, with no intentions of listening,

You will lose. And, I suspect many of you know it,

ow the edge

4/10

I am Holla Forums you commucuck. I despise communism. It doesn't work. It never will. Someone will always rise to the top resulting in totalitarian regime. History has proven this time and time again.

What communism fails to recognize is the corruptiblity of human nature. I'll let you "intellectuals" figure that out.

Freedom isn't about success. It's about the right to pick yourself up off the ground, after a failure, and try again.

Most "communists" I have met (in real life) have been losers. I don't mean to insult you… I'm being honest. They were people incapable of providing for themselves and envious of everyone around them. They screen and screech about fairness but are unwilling to put in the effort to better themselves to make themselves marketable.

I realize my words will fall on def ears, just as they do with your raid posts.

2/10 downgraded for trying too hard

Point made.

So selling their labor to others like a fucking slave. And you call other people cucks?

honestly, the threads are basically just lefty hate threads. other than op and who ever joins em, its pretty much just people sharing red ball memes. i don't see why you have to even get triggered.

Selling my labor? Actually, yes. That's what gives the INDIVIDUAL power. I have a skill you need, you pay me for the work I do for you, because you lack the skill necessary to do it yourself.

This is a problem how? Let me ask you a question. You don't have to answer me… what's your talent? What's the one thing you excel at? If I approached you and asked you to preform your talent for me (because I can't do it) and in return I'll give you an agreeded upon monetary reward, which you can use in anyway you see fit.

What's the problem?

Can somebody remake that third one but with the American ball and the word man instead of dog?

Was there cannibalism in the Depression?

i would guess so, if fucking potatoes cooked over burning trash was the feast on special occasions. but i cant be bother to get off my ass and check.

The agreed upon monetary reward in the employer-employee relationship isn't set by the value of the service the employee performs - otherwise, there wouldn't be any profits in the first place!

It's set by what the employer and employee negotiate - and when one party needs a job and the other has a lot of other desperate people who can take their place, you can guess how that negotiation turns out. Capitalism is a wonderful system - if you're one of the tiny few lucky enough to own meaningful capital!

But for the rest of us, it means working to make someone with much more money than us even richer off our labor.

I'll never understand commies. You're willing to sacrifice your freedom for what?

I'll die before I sacrifice the personal liberties afforded me. The fact that I can chose my own path and not be subject to a totalitarian regime to tell me what I can or can't do.

If I decide tomorrow I want to be a game developer, I can follow that dream without the government telling me otherwise. Regardless if I'm successful or not measured by the rubrics of society. I achieved MY goals. Learn to be an individual and not a cog in the machine, desu.

It's been documented via screenshots and archive links that way back revolt was made to screw with the admins and community of HQ. I don't have them with me, you'll have to ask around.


8pol uses an inverse IDPOL which is a reaction to the IDPOL on the left. It is enforced by moderators who have an axe to grind.
4pol is a much more moderate community which has 8pol posters, and also those who disagree with them.

The most it could use is more neutral moderation, but judging on its content the last few months it seems some level of parity has been reached.

If you want to see cancer, just look at /r/socialism. That's what the left invariably turns the internet into when they are allowed to set up rules, because they have aligned themselves with authoritarians who do not value free speech and these people commandeer the leadership.


Yup. Just like the Tea Party did for 2010. Because the right isn't bogged down by IDPOL, it is quite influential in getting political movements going.


I think the only bawwwing is coming from you folks. Just look at what your brethren above wrote me.


Just look at OWS and Bernie Sanders for examples of how effective your side is at creating change and revolution.

Your personal liberties are a fucking illusion. They only stretch as far as capital affords it to.
You already are. You think the NSA is there just to protect you from muzzies? No, it's there to make sure you don't stray to far from neoliberal bullshit and try and blow up the porky ruling class.

Yh, but good luck getting the ruling class to help you the fuck out if you pose any threat to their profits.

You are in the machine you spooked bootlicker.

I see your point, I don't agree, but I respect it.

You're right. Someone is always going to benefit from the "lower" working class. But, that's the reality of life. Communism, Capitalism, Socialism…. it doesn't matter. Someone else is always going to benefit from your work.

But, rather than succumbing to envy why not recognize the gifts you have and enjoy them? Life isn't about money, nor is it about power or position… it's about freedom. The freedom to choose your own path, to fail, to succeed, to follow your dreams without interruption.

I'm not a tankie. I don't want to sacrifice anyone's freedom.

I support socialism because it provides people freedom in a meaningful sense - because poverty and desperation enslave people, and fixing the economy so that everyone is equal will give the vast majority of people far more ability to live their lives as they choose.

What freedom does a sweatshop worker have? What freedom does a wageslave have?

I don't want anyone to have to sell themselves to get by - and if they truly must work, lest the economy grind to a halt and society collapse, at least let them keep the fruits of what they produce!

That's bullshit. I grew up so poor we had to give the government money before we got aid. And now I have multiple college degrees.

You get out of life what you invest, desu..

You're delusional if you think everyone should earn the same. Life isn't fair, it sucks, but that's just how it is.

Now, with that said that doesn't mean I think that people working in "sweatshops" should be treated as less than human… but that's not a communist or capitalist issues… that's a human issue.

Wow you beat the odds thats great for you still doesnt change the fact that half of the US makes less than $30,000 a year

And compared to 95% rest of planet… that's considered wealthy.

I wouldn't know because I'm not some faggot who goes on reddit.


[citation needed]


but the right has never done this….right?


The right only gives a fuck about free speech as far as it pushes their agenda. That's it. They use to love to burn books.


1. the tea party didn't do shit because they were developed by a think tank to benefit the ruling class

2. There is no causal correlation between the amount you shitpost, to trump being president, I'm sorry to report.


yh, it was mostly composed of liberals and outside agitators subverting any chance for revolutionary organization.


yeah, because a social democrat playing into the hands of bourgeoisie democracy is such representation of this board. Lurk more faggot.

The gap between those 2 groups is nothing compared to the gap between either and the bourgeois though which is the problem

Here's the bottom line,

Holla Forums believes in freedom, individual freedom and the rights afforded to us by our respective "constitutions." If you truly believe you're going to change us… be my guest. Waste your time.

Your constitution only protects you as far as the bourgeoisie allows it to

You can't have true freedom without freedom from exploitation by capitalism. Communism is about freedom.

I don't care about how many toilet paper degrees you have.
Fact of the matter is most of the world is poor af, but apparently their investment dick wasn't hard enough to pull them up. Explain that, faggot.

I own a house, a car, have an education, food in the kitchen, I can practice whatever religion I want, i can pursue any path *I* choose. I can decided to sell my skills and start my own business if I so want.

Versus, being a subject to totalitarianism.

Yeah, I'll stick with Capitalism.

You're a moron

Exactly most of the work did poor. Be intellectually honest and look at the poorest countries. Then look at their givernments,

Again you beat the odds that is great for you but the vast majority even in america are not beating it at all

And Stalin?

You first.
Why do you think there is globalization in the first place?
They need people desperate enough to do work we wouldn't for wages way lower than ours. It bolsters profit. The governments are only as corrupt as the material conditions they fester in.

He's a faggot.
What else you got?

What?

Typo… I lost my train of thought,

It's sad this board has to resort to shilling on fucking Holla Forums

All it's doing is making it worse for us as you bring them all here to retaliate hence the massive decline in quality plus it further alienates anyone wanting to join us whether left or right.

You faggots made hiro kick modcat because he politely explained something that made you hurt your fee-fees, so you faggots got triggered and started chimping out.
How's that not a fucking safe space, you even go hurting other boards because of your torture chamber.
Holla Forums does literally the same.
You can see it on 8/v/, where Holla Forums gets triggered over small shit all the time, and are starting to see it on 4chan overall.
I even saw someone bitching on a fucking Prisma Illya thread about lesbians being degenerate of all fucking things.
For not being SJW, you sure fucking love using their same tactics
GG was blatantly co-opted since early on by opportunistic reactionaries, anyone who was there on the early days could tell, the Return of Kings guys even made a site literally called Reaxxion to get GG bucks, and essentially steered any possible anger at what capitalism did to the video game industry (who was clearly there since doritogate at the very least) into e-celebs and muh cultural marxism.
The Holla Forums GG threads are nowadays essentially Holla Forums with more circlejerking and irrelevant e-celebs, and no actual talk of vidya on sight.

And then they closed Reaxxion down for lack of views. There's a difference between trying to co-opt something and succeeding.

Not that I think GG is still doing anything important, I wish they'd stick to watchdog stuff and not irrelevant bullshit.

Holla Forums succeeded. maybe we shouldn't be so slow to learn.

They succeeded, but now they're going to fail, and we don't want to repeat history.

lern2dialectics

My dad & his mom(my mammaw) have passed down some sad stories from the Depression-era.

Mammaw's mom couldn't afford to feed them, so she "took her brothers on a ride around the block" & they never came back. Turns out she sent them to an orphanage. She didn't find out what happened to her bros until 70 years later. They were both alive, one adopted in New York & one adopted in California.

I got to meet the one from New York when he came to visit KY & my mammaw. I was young, but he gave us a rifle to hand down in the family.

Mammaw flew out to Cali to meet the other & the local paper covered it. His adopted fam had a gold mine type store. So she panned for gold & brought home a gold nugget which she made a necklace out of & passed down to me.

My dad's dad & uncle ran off to some sort of "work camps" to find work & not starve at home, whatever those were. I think they were ran by the government or something. They were both like age 14 & 16. Grampa died young, so I didn't get to learn more detail on those stories. I should look up wth those "work camps" were.

So I don't know about literal cannibalism, but they were starving, so who knows. I've heard many kids were nursed on goats & cows, though. Many just died of starvation. The Dust Bowl happened at the same time, so there's some horrible stories about that, too. People/babies dying from breathing dust.

Lmao. So you agree?

You need capital to do that, retard. Most people are too focused on eating each day or providing a roof over their heads to even think about furthering education.


What? And I'm calling bullshit on you. If you grew up in the ghetto you'd hate the government, porky & porky's enforcers's(cops).

And most Americans don't have shit to invest - that's the point.

Are you American? Let me steal a meme from you guys.. "Do you even economics, bro"? $30,000/year isn't shit in the US economy because of inflation. Especially if you live in a big city where living is more expensive.

At my most, I was making $12,000/year, with what would be considered a "nice job". I couldn't afford to live on my own or feed myself properly. Let alone considering health expenses. I had many teeth pulled because I couldn't afford to have them repaired, sometimes even a simple filling needed cause me to have teeth pulled.

I also couldn't afford to be online, even. That's a luxury many still don't know in the US.

You have no idea about the poverty in the US. Stop acting as if you do.

someone break the news to this guy

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Rhetoric aside, I'm sure that is not their goal, but rather to get some new voices heard on Holla Forums, which should be a good thing.

Not remotely true. Stuff like this is the equivalent of "Frankfurt School Conspiracy."


The anti-PC crowd is very outspoken and influential online. More and more, public discourse is not funneled by giant media outlets, but is a part of online dialogue.

You don't even require a conspiracy on that level since it's all pretty much out in the open.
Even Holla Forums use to admit the tea party was a rich cuckservative project till recently.

So? Show me how Holla Forums shitposting has anything to do with this, and wasn't just a reflection of the current political climate.

To be fair the Chicago Mercantile Exchange had a huge influence in the founding of the tea party movement

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Rick Santelli's rant was a catalyst, but it wasn't due to a think tank.

The outlook from Holla Forums and earlier /new/ are now a reflection of the current political climate. This would have been unthinkable just a few years ago. 8/pol/ went full stormfront, but 4chon/new/ and 4/pol/ still retained a more open-minded approach that makes the alt right more appealing than the traditional racial right.

So why hasn't either taken root on Holla Forums, the furthest and most genuinely left board on the internet? Why has it emerged, in force, on Holla Forums?
Leftism and idpol are antithetical. Idpol is literally a device of class rule. The politics of gender, race, and sexual identity have played an enormous role in the suppression of workers' struggles. Working class discontent found expression in Trump's election precisely because the bourgeois politics of identity are so antithetical to workers' interests, and because neoliberalism/globalism, which result from the contradictions of capitalism, have left them out in the cold for years.

"You're 'privileged' because you're white! Your trouble paying the rent each month is nobody's fault but yours because you were born with every conceivable magic advantage society has! You're 'oppressed' because you're black! Your trouble paying the rent each month isn't associated with exploitation, it's because whitey's keeping you down! It's okay to have a tiny class of idle parasites leeching off the hard work of >99% of the population, as long as that class is 12.5% black, 16% hispanic and about 50% women!"
How can you not see this as a fundamentally and inexorably capitalist ideology?

Hillary "Mrs. Wall Street" Clinton's defeat is not the failure of leftist goals, get it through your head

You misunderstand Marxism and its goals. Electing "the right person" doesn't fundamentally solve anything. As you're seeing now with Trump's appointments and positively Obamaesque retreat from his core promises. Thing is, Trump expressed a lot of great ideas. Did he really believe them? That's ultimately besides the point, the capitalist pressures on their implementation are much the same no matter what a president "believes."
We don't want to make Holla Forums on the whole left or neutral, merely express our views there and clarify the core concepts many people misunderstand.

Twitter, Reddit, Facebook etc are bourgeois-held platforms. Their administration is highly subject to class forces. They will always fall into lockstep with the party line. You've "infiltrated" and we've "infiltrated" them extensively. Their responsiveness to feminist drivel is not because feminists "worked harder" at it, but because it was more convenient. Just as the bourgeoisie, much as it generally resents Trump (outside his own circle of favor,) finds it more convenient to have a "peaceful transition of power" than ask Obama to compromise the democracy.

Look, I'm not saying this is wrong. But you're actually talking about liberals and pseudo-leftists. OWS was a fundamentally leftist thing, with leftist goals (we shouldn't have an oligarchy of the rich because it's against the economic interests of most people,) which was corrupted and safely defused, again, by the old standby of identity politics. Which was used by government agents, explicitly to break the movement up, when it didn't fall in line in the Democratic party's shadow
We remember this differently, then. The real disorientation was when "we value cultural libertarianism and hate moral policing, let art be free and don't bother me" got pounded with "we gotta purge the fun xDD crusade against OUR bêtes noire instead."
If ANYTHING the SJW intrusion of entertainment should have EXEMPLIFIED what the capitalist mode of production does to art and culture. The vidya industry has been all about placing naked profit over quality games and free expression for years now. Don't you think "you can be fired and blacklisted for daring to disagree with the politics of your corporate overlords" and the constant pandering, lying, overhyping, and underdelivering are bad things? And that these are things we're against?

A good many of us were radicalized by GG. It and OWS are the events in recent history which most clearly demonstrate the adversarial relationship between leftist practice/goals and liberal/idpol nonsense

Directly oppose our goals. Worker control of the workplace is by its very nature offensive. Expropriation of the bourgies is necessarily hate speech.
Telling people it's immoral to hold certain views can only shut down discussion/opposition and any fair evaluation of alternate beliefs. You can peruse the thread we had on r/socialism's insane mods, and their seemingly deliberate efforts to sabotage socialism and alienate newcomers looking for an alternative to liberal politics.

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no

I can almost hear Phil Ochs in the background

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I made this thread if anyone wants to post in it, too tired to carry on

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/104315849

Everyone left 4chan. The Spaniard the crazy hoxha loving Albanian even the brit. I'm the only one still posting the Marxist Leninist general. I need back up.

Come help me out please.

Please?

I think we should change our strategy, instead of /leftism general/ bait Holla Forums with stuff like "why do you let the boss take your surplus value?"

Its Holidays yo, a lot of people are busy.

I'm the Britbong. bit busy today to answer a million dumb questions

Or exposing people to socialists principle without using buzzwords?

Why do you let the shareholders take your surpluss value though?

You could start by dropping the Soviet symbols

The Soviet Union was a catastrophic failure

How do you not understand this. It's good when we do it. It's bad when they do it. Fucking newfags need to get the fuck out.

FUCK YOU LEFTY POL, WE ARE ON TO YOU, YOU WILL BE GASSED, I SWEAR TO FUCKING GOD! HANZ FIRE UP THE FUCKING OVENS! KILL THE JUDEN, SOCIALIST KIKES!

Very bad post.

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Enjoy your ban. This isn't called "Leftist Politically Correct" for nothing. No dissent is allowed here you fucking porky scum. Dissent is a spook. You will be herded into gulags with other thoughtcriminal scum. Fuck you.

Merry Holidays

Merry C h r i s t m a s

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You do realize that Holla Forums raids itself right? The whole thing about leftypol raiding is just a prelude to self raid. Any particular raid is composed of 10% shills and 90% Holla Forums hell bent on baiting each other. Some Holla Forumssters dynamically switch opinions depending on what thread they end up and they will vehemently argue on either side.


The only form of socialism Holla Forums wants is Not Socialism

You're saying this like Nazi's are your run of the mill socialist. There is already Not Socialism generals on pol maybe you should adopt Not Socialism here.


The problem is that people that want to pay for healthcare out of pocket will get double dipped when their taxes go towards public healthcare.

He got banned though. Good thing. I was getting fucking triggered. I fucking hate it when people disagree with us. Makes me want to join antifa.

Merry Holidays, cumrags.

Fucking Porkies get out.

Trust me fam, there is much worse. Like the Estonian that single-handedly spammed every single thread on Holla Forums with nothing but images of Nigel Farage

Your helicopter ride is waiting

Why do you queers worship Marx again? He never had a proper job in his life, mooched off everyone he knew, and his unintelligent ramblings have been responsible for more death in human history than any other idea.

Is it just because you don't want to get jobs?

"Venezuela!!!"
"communism is Jewish!!"
"but social Darwinism"

Mein sides

Marxism is about transcending reality not giving in to it. Equality is unnatural so nature must be destroyed. We have to crush human nature to ensure a leftist future. I can't wait to watch the gulags we throw losers like you into.

Butthurt

If you are a leftist you have to understand the importance of censorship though. We can't allow reactionary thoughts to arise lest they lead to reactionary deeds. If you allow freedom then we might lose. That's not ok.

How do leftists reconcile that their political ideology punishes strength, intelligence, and hard work while rewarding weakness, stupidity, and laziness?

How do leftists reconcile that their political ideology stagnates human evolution instead of driving it forward.

oh no they're onto us!

There are benefits to negotiating your pay with your employer. For instance, if you were to work harder than another employee you could negotiate with your boss for a salary increase or if you're really talented you start your own business.


replace this with Jews and Holla Forums and Holla Forums will reach an unshakable friendship


Sounds like a libertarian to me. I find the thought of complete economic equality as a foolish endeavor since I don't believe that human beings are themselves equal. Although I am sympathetic to allocating resources (within reason) to less fortunate people.

Consider yourself lucky that you weren't born to a sweatshop worker. Realize that your lineage struggled before you so that their descendants could have a better life than their own. Stop throwing away their sacrifices.


Money is largely irrelevant as a standard anymore since we're swamped with credit and we've stopped allowing the markets to actually go through their inflationary and deflationary periods naturally.


Jews, ftfy
Not really that's why the second amendment exists. How do you feel that dirty Capitalist gun manufacturers are one of the biggest reasons that American's still have gun rights? The truth is that ideology only goes so far, yes Holla Forums is limited by it's ideology as much as Holla Forums is. Can we work towards betterment of understanding? Absolutely.


You're not wrong
youtube.com/watch?v=kzIRG525l6s


There is no talk of videogames in Holla Forums since /vg/ exist. It's more of a social space with the pretense of being a videogame discussion board.

Leftism is about equality. Equality doesn't exist in normal circumstances. Equality must be made to exist.

This doesn't lead to stagnation because progress is Marxism.

Nietzsche btfo that conservative sentimentalism a long time ago, famalam.

marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

Also, not a single one of you guys thought to make a "hey it's your Uber driver" edit of this? smh

Leftism isn't about winning arguments. It's about dominating the society. We don't have to be right we have to have might. Stop playing the porky game of argumentation and just tell them to fuck off.

Equality doesn't exist in nature, that's correct. You should ask yourself why that is, and why it's important for evolution to occur.

Define 'Marxism' and tell me why it's progress. Don't use circular logic.

Citing Nietzsche and using big words that you learned from r/socialism does not an argument make.

Marxism is progress because it is morally correct. It is about the rejection of nature and tradition. Rejecting whatever contrary science as a spook is a no brainer.

Haha

It doesn't matter if we don't make sense. Winning is the only thing that matters. Then we destroy.

That guy is also a troll, btw.

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Another meme re-appropriated and improved for the motherland :^)

Remind me you said that so I can put you in a gulag with these other porkies.

Not even sure what you're arguing for, tbh.

Why exactly is it morally correct?

Why do you think this is a noble thing? What if an architect rejected nature when building a skyscraper? What if he just disregarded the laws of physics and nature that govern the movement of matter and built a shithouse that flopped right over (kinda like the USSR and communist China)?


Still no argument m8

Because it abrogates nature.

Wow that capitalist got a free house? Why doesn't everyone become a capitalist??

Ok, now answer the second half of my post.

half/pol/ just had a thread up about us subverting their janitor system.

we've got some nu/pol/ neocons visiting us now

It's important because if you continue to subsidize the poor with welfare you will only increase the number of people that will be dependent on welfare. Otherwise known as dysgenics, which no one on Holla Forumsster has a solution for.

Except the system you advocate can only exist by having a much greater number of poor people than the elite. This has been true since the advent of class society.

Social Darwinism has been discredited a long time ago, btw.

Not the same guy you dumb jew.
But I'm saying that on half the infographs I see posted on Holla Forums, there are sources.

Can't have that now

ah yes, the Institute for Historical Review is so trustworthy

IHR and The greatest story never told aren't sources

What needs to be justified. Politics aren't about facts they're about value judgements. Equality is more important than prosperity.

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Interesting how research done by Marxists/Jews is obvious bullshit but research done by racists is a-okay by Holla Forums standards.

Research is good when it agree with us. It's bad when it disagrees. The only virtue is success. Once the left understands and weaponizes dualist morality then we win.

you got me

I know we ourselves nitpick a lot of you commies' saying, but come on.

I can't tell who's legitimately retarded and who's false flagging.

We're right. You're wrong. This isn't complex. For fuck's sake just stop being a porky.

That's because joos have infiltrated the academia and only redpilled sources like this dubious blog post are valid now

Pretty sure thats a policy that any capitalist who wants to stay in power would pursue. Notice all the labor reforms and social safety nets in the West were largely established when an alternative example to the capitalist system was on hand (USSR).

youtube.com/watch?v=qCj62f0A3uw
Stop asking for sources

Your so called facts don't matter. We already decided to be communists. You're fucked.

Hey Holla Forums you aren't fooling anyone

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Why are you still bothering arguing with porkies? We don't have to win arguments. We just have to win wars and elections.


Porky doesn't mean capitalist only. It also means lumpenprole and thoughtcriminal. It doesn't matter what type of gulag inhabitant you are. You've gotta go.

Nice spook.

America was founded on libertarian principles, and in less than 200 years beat out Europe in terms of living standards. Notice that America's downfall started when they introduced the Federal Reserve and when they started increasing regulations.

Most of those safety nets are already failing which is what always happens. Take a look at Venezuela, had they invested in better petroleum technology rather than squandering away on dishwashers they wouldn't be suffering as they are now.

Our facts are facts. Their facts are spooks. This is how we win. Remember don't grant the other side legitimacy. Every fucking thing a porky says is a lie and his every virtue a spook.

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Why didn't the soviets kill you?

They pretty much are. The far right is based on feels and pseudoscience.


useful idiot alert!

Right, because it's not like the US had a whole continent to expand on and the subsequent mineral and other resources to exploit with little resistance.

Europe stagnated mostly due to the endless intra-imperial wars.

I agree on Venezuela, should have seized those means instead of half-assing it.

I got a hat with a star for Holidays.

niceme.em

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It's a spook if we say it is.

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Holla Forums actually believes this

Beliefs don't matter. Victory does.

I wonder when leftists will grow a pair and back the working class getting smashed by mass immigration. Nah who am i kidding they will keep siding with 🍀🍀🍀porky🍀🍀🍀 and smashing "fascism"

you ever hear of genetics?

T. fascist

Yes because dog = human.

In what way?

No one cares about trump.

Will this meme ever die? It's mostly the petite bourgeois middle classes that hate immigration.

I'm working class but went to school with richer kids. They're far more bigoted and sneering.

They're mostly not working class and in any case, racists all need their skulls cracked

High intellect. Talent. Ability to earn for themselves in a free market and abide by the laws and principles of your society.

Use catalog new friend.

Trump isn't a fascist but the working class can be wrong. Your status as a prole doesn't make you instantly class conscious.

How do you reconcile your political beliefs with this image?

If we lose leftism loses. If we can't defend our principles then what good are they. Jack shit.


That image is a spook.

Besides your free market meme, thr average person in any given society have never really had that. Even thr upper classes can be stupid & decadent.

Define spook.

I cant read that.

Spook = thing we don't want to talk about. It's a word we use to avoid discussing things we can't.

The average person in Germany has higher Autism Level, talent, work-ethic, and law-abiding behavioral patterns than people in Somalia for example. Therefore Germany produces an incredibly rich and high quality of life nation for themselves.

Just because the teachings of comrade Marx haven't been applied doesn't mean that a nation isn't already a collective/group effort.

You are Bourgeois then.
Typical bourgeois urbanite attacking the working class who has had gutsful of the metropolitan elite.

Click the filename and open it in another tab.

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See you in Bans

Germany also has a much higher standard of living. Funny how that works. Have you been to rural Appalachia? It's basically third world, and poor Ulster-Scotch whites were heavily discriminated against in the past and still are.

What I was trying to point out is that development isn't completely dependent on environment.
You seem to think that humans are water that take the shape of whatever vessel as if humans have no "human nature". If we take your perversion to it's logical end then what's wrong with sweatshops? I mean they'll adapt to their environment, will they not?

Ban is our gulag. We have to use it to purge dissenters from here. We need political correctness or else we get shitshows like this thread.

How do you think they got that? Did it just fall out of the sky?

you lefties are completely detached

Cherry picked nonsense. Anthropologists don't use "race" for good reason.

theguardian.com/science/2015/mar/01/racism-science-human-genomes-darwin


Fuck off you deceitful cunt, sick of you types trying to position yourselves as defenders of the working class.

Human nature isn't objectively real. Many people act against what is supposedly human nature. The way a human acts is dependent on the environment he was raised in and the brain capacity of his species which most of the time is the same for all races. That's why black people act like black people. Because they were raised by black people.

If all races are identically then why is it that Jewish and Asians score higher Autism Levels than Whites?

The common stance from non-racialists is that Blacks under perform due to environment. If that is the case then why do Asians(Immigrants) preform better than Blacks when their environment is just as disadvantaged?

This is some ayncrap-tier logic.

bourgeois just means owning the means of production.

So are you saying that black people should be raised by whites so that they act like white people? I see that you're using a negative connotation there, that's pretty racist!

Yeah they would.

'Disadvantaged' nice meme. How are Asian immigrants significantly disadvantaged?

Precisely. We despise human nature because fundamentally we despise humanity. We replace hierarchies of man with hierarchies of ideas. It's a more complete domination.

I never stated that acting black was inherently bad though. Just somewhat different.

All capitalist memes, whats next taxing is socialism too?

That's rich coming from people who think that environment is the only role in people's development.

youtube.com/watch?v=F0_NsS1Zdlk

All people act differently. There's no such thing as human nature.

Yes, so cool and edgy. Now you have to go back.

Historical forces of production. Having your country rebuilt after a war you started probably helped.

If your worldview is correct, why was Europe pretty much globally irrelevant until the Age of Discovery?

For starters they face racial discrimination, they usually very little capital and are forced to live in poorer conditions(until they become doctors).

Yeah were the deceitful ones the shitshow in Rotherham was all on us wasn't it.
Trucks running people over in Europe is all our fault.
Ali Baba up in this theater? Nazis fault.

Do us a favor and fuck off if you aren't willing to take a stand against the predations of global finance otherwise it will be you getting smashed by the working class.

it was da joooz and da ayyzhuns keep whitey down

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/104357288

I'm aware, times change.

You don't have an argument. You don't need one either. You have the mods. Who whom. Who shall ban whom is the only rule of online forums. That's why debate doesn't really matter.

If your world view is correct then why has Africa been a shithole since even before Europeans colonized it?

You haven't been banned yet. Either the mods are asleep or you just won't get banned.

Your masters wage war on countries so yeah, pretty much. Nazis are fighting in Ukraine.


Islamists are the same as Nazis. You both need to be smashed


We are though. Ranting about "international bankers" (we all know what you want to say) is all well and good but you don't represent the working class and never will.

In what way?

First time on Holla Forums retard?

i love this idiot screencapped a few posts ITT for proofs of le sekret raid, as if OP itself doesn't advertise it

Affirmative action requires them to score higher on their SAT than other races.

That's the point only power matters. If we get power we get our ideology.


If you don't get banned that means you do a good job coloring in the lines. I have sinned and must pay at some point. I have been banned before and will be banned again. It doesn't bother me. I know in my heart that I am a leftist.

You aren't even willing to make a stand with them on the basis of common decency it is why your support has been hollowed and restricted to urban centers. Just another metropolitan parasite attacking those who shoulder the burden of your naivety.

You seem to think that all Asian immigrants are first/second gen doctors, etc from China or Japan. There are communities of Vietnamese and Flips who are don't so well economically, for instance.

Depends where you went in the continent at the time. West Africa was pretty developed in the middle ages. Sokoto Caliphate also comes to mind.


Holla Forums does that shit as much as black nationalists do.

Funny you mention that.

forums.asiantown.net/t/309133/Origin-of-Hmong-Gangs--California--Minnesota--and-Wisconsin

Yeah, if the term is meaningless in the discussion if it isn't to describe the capitalist class.

Fair enough.

Did you just try to argue that WW1 and WW2 were positive factors in the building of European nations?

Here I was thinking that tens of millions of men getting slaughtered, infrastructure and cities being bombed out, and national coffers being dumped on tanks and planes that ended up being obliterated was ultimately destructive and antithetical to building a high 'quality of life'.

what's your point? asians can n2 gangs too? no shit

triads are the coolest–that's a fact

How do left-wingers reconcile their world views with pic related?

Holla Forums does that ironically and we love to laugh at each other like when Nords think they were the "true" Romans, or when they think that Egyptians had blue eyes.


This. Asians make better gangs tbqh. The Yakuza is basically the black market Japan.

spook :^) because reasons

Not in the way you mean, but I don't see the US doing much 'nation-building' in the countries they destabilize through coup or funding right wing governments.

le spoopy maymay mods please ban

What does that have to do with Europeans producing higher quality civilizations by merit of their intellect and behavior? Are left-wingers incapable of following a debate coherently?

Point being, criminality isn't exclusive to any one group.

You watch too many mob movies.

So what's your plan? Discriminate against all blacks because a gene that MAY (or may not, lol we're not really sure) increase aggression is found in under 5% of AAs and under 1% of whites?

just what kind of dystopian future you want fam

We are not liberals by the way or liberals LARPing as socialist, if you been around here you would notice that we do stick up for all workers and shit on all who don't.

IDpol is pure liberal bullshit and is used as a tactic by liberals to harm our movements.

err, meant for>>1178408

True, but effectiveness of criminality is dependent on intelligence.

It doesn't have to be. It's significantly more common in some, and significantly less common in others. When we're talking about national demographics, we're talking about tens of millions of people, not one or two black kids you see in the hallway at your high school. Averages are important.

Point being, it's not inherent to Europeans. And Mugabe should tell you why nationalism is bad.

Most of Holla Forumss resistance to Socialism is that when a country becomes wealthy it attracts foreigners that seek to live in high standards without being of high standard themselves. See America & Mexico or Europe & Africa/Middle East, as an example

This. We ban to protect our ideology. This is not a place for debate. This is a church of Marxism.

It'd be smart to stay on guard around any young African American gentleman (around blacks, never relax), but the primary thing to take away from that is that much of the problems within the black community are the product of their own genetics. Crime, low intelligence, resultant poverty. That's their destiny. This quest for equity rather than true equality only serves to reward those who don't deserve it and punish those who do.

It's also a bad idea to import tens of thousands of people from the third world because the third world is a shithole primarily because the average third-worlder isn't as good as the average first-worlder.

Okay. So how do you make the jump in logic that somehow instead of trying to improve people as a whole that letting 90% of the population fester ignorance and poverty?

It literally is though. Autism Level and behavioral patterns are largely the product of genetics. It doesn't get more inherent than genetics.

You can do whatever you want, just don't force us along with you. We're against statists like yourself precisely because you want to tell us how to best use our already few resources.

The day i see actual communists protesting against mass migration into working class areas is the day i shit and go blind. I appreciate that you have been fucked over by idpol i just see no point in all these chubby leftists who gossip about beating the hell out of fascism yet are no where to be seen when it comes to organising genuine working class resentment.

You're likely thinking of social democracy.

The Autism Level wordfilter is a key point. Eye-Q is an issue for our ideology. Instead of arguing it away we silence it. This is a better victory than a debate. No contrary position to ours can exist. If you think it does you are autistic. Brilliant.

Every violent criminal should be hanged, whether they're black or white or whatever. The point is that criminal behavior is a lot of the time a product of genes. Genes that lead to criminal behavior are significantly more common in blacks. So when you see disproportionate crime statistics, it's not et all the product of socioeconomic inequalities. Some of it most certainly is, but a significant portion is also just inherent to them as a result of their genetics.

Sure thing, pal.

can i interest you in buying some skull calipers, sir?

They have a bad habit of people killed by the police/CIA.

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Well you make it seem like I'm mistaken on my assumption. What's your take on my argument?

My main issue with Socialism is that there are very few socialists willing to create a eugenics program and in spite of not having a eugenics program I do not want to provide for the very same people that will cause dysgenics in the society.

We don't need an argument. We have the mods. This is why power matters more than truth.

Your meme pic isn't persuading me. I don't even know why I'm replying, it's obvious you gave up trying to be serious.

Isn't 'hispanic' just an ethnicity.

top fucking kek, not bad at all.

It's supposed to mean 'spanish speaker' iirc. It's modern usage in the states just means mestizo/latin american native.

Hispanic isn't a race it's a shared language.

It's a spook tbqh.

Point being, propertarians are only 'anti-statist' when it's convenient, they're more than happy to have a state when it protects their interests.

I'm not in favor of killing or sterilizing for shit that triggers you. What do you think the Autism Level was for the average peasant under feudalism?

That's everyone who isn't stupid.

You do know that liberals use the same logic when they speak about middle American whitefolks? It isn't any different, minority crime is inflated by Urban poverty(higher concentration of law enforcement etc), jobs fleeing to the 3rd world leaving the communities with no jobs and opportunities to provide for their families leading them to resort to crime, the Drug War and the Prison lobbies making up bullshit "crimes" to get people arrested to fill up their prisons for profit and prison labor(these numbers exceed the USSR's gulags, and whats worse is that they're filled up not by political prisoners but our own citizens!), which in turn makes it harder for them to get employment and more likely to resort to crime.

The funny thing, is that you can see the same thing happening to the white working class, barely no jobs around while more flee to other countries, no education, suicide rates are flying through the roof, poverty is rising faster than ever, drug epidemic runs rampant and destroys their lives, either dying to overdoses or falling victim to the same laws that fucks over minorities in other poor areas.

Are they to blame for any of this? No, its the fault of the capitalist class.

Support for socialism has always been strongest in cities. It's where workers live for 200 years.

Then just be honest about protecting 'your' interests (I've yet to meet a lolbert who was above petit bourgeois) and don't cloak it in moralism about 'statism'.

Power is the fundamental question in politics. Watch the Clintonistas engage in muh constitution and muh conspiracy theories now. They don't actually care. Losers talk about morality and law. Rulers talk about governance.

Urban centers in the western world are no longer bastions of the working class they are bastions of international finance.

I'm really enjoying the hypocrisy here.


Eugenics isn't solely achievable by sterilization. You could make it attractive to people of good genetic lineage to procreate twice or thrice above replacement level and you'd get the same effect.

We're talking about genetics buddy. The amount of bad whites there are is significantly lower than the amount of bad blacks.

Replace 'capitalist class' with 'jews' and you're dead on.

Why are communists pretending they care about the people they say they care about when they're not willing to protect peoples interests?

Because it is the duty of the working class to bring about Marxism. Whether they want it or benefit from it doesn't really factor into the question. They are required to bring it about because no one else can.

Fair enough, but I don't to just throw people away because they don't the checkboxes of some autist's criteria for what makes someone worthy of existing.

It's in my interests and the people I care about. Going around beating up immigrants and dividing the workers when they should be fighting the real enemy is counterproductive.

Autism. Many such cases!

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I don't think Schlomo who works in a bagel shop is part of some secret conspiracy to cuck the white race.

Basically, capitalism makes people act like how you think all Jews behave.

Those are LARPers
Mass immigration is against the working class and makes neoliberals drool, its just they nearly all real socialist movements are destroyed.

The few are Corbyn's faction in the UK labor party, who were pro-brexit and are for nationalizing and protectionism. A main thing we socialist want is let third world countries create their own jobs and build their own economy. Fucking over workers around the world with exporting jobs and setting up sweatshops in third-world countries is just a disaster on all fronts.

If doesn't benefit them then why are you surprised they don't want it?

Eugenics always comes down to some autistic checkbox your right but not wanting to make one altogether is self defeating for society.


If the immigrants were from certain countries it would limit this issue
Who's dividing the workers and what are the divitions you speak of?
Who is the real enemy? As far as I'm concerned my enemy is the one currently profiting over fractional reserve banking.

I will agree that whites might be more intelligent genetically or something but what socialists really want is to establish not a world with no competition but a world with fair competition. If what your saying is true wouldn't making the contest fair for everyone make whites prevail.

Based on what? Cities still lean left. "International finance" (which is your codeword for Jews, deliberately misleading workers) operates transnationally. Capital doesn't care about your precious race and nation.

citations are in the image

Whether it benefits them or not is a spook. Marxist equality is the goal. It is an end in and of itself. We need the working class to work with us to get this done. Who cares what they believe? Power is the goal. We achieve it how we can.

Absolutely. The problem is that most of what the left wing proposes isn't actual equality, it's equality of outcome (ie Affirmative Action). It's punishing people who should win or who already have won and reward those who should/have not.

Speaking of sources.

If Jews are at the center of international finance then i don't give a fuck about attacking Jews. As for basis i will give an example. London is frequently heralded as a center for finance and constantly voted against working class interests.

That my be true but nothing you propose would help preserve race and nation.

We don't even live in a Capitalist society anymore. We live in a mutated bastard child made up of both the worst in Socialism and the worst in Capitalism.


What is Marxist equality and why is it a goal?

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Alot of what you call the right or fascists want those same things as well. I actually have alot of respect for Corbyn but my days with voting for labor are done.

The equality of outcome that Marxism enables and requires. The mountains laid low and the valleys filled in. Harrison Bergeron is pretty spot on.

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The mechanisms the capitalist class use to exploit you would remain if they were all WASPs.

The City of London has fuck all in common with somewhere like Croydon.

Why do you care about these things? They're just entities to stunt your mind and keep you hating your fellow man. The nation-state was, is and always will be a mere tool for division.

Small part of what Capitalism is about

Above all Capitalism is an economic theory that argues that all individuals are and should be economic units that serve their own interests.


Meme picture of molymeme is now an argument


Before there was Capitalism my "fellow man" was more than OK with killing me and taking my possessions. I wish this farce would die already.

You are as bad as the poo in loo posters of our board that think they will become a superpower by 2020 when they can't even learn to shit in a pot.

You have your home here, and we have ours. For what reason do you care? Not every community is inclusive. It's rather funny to see you trashing someone else's "safe space," while in your own "safe space." A community is more fun with like-minded friends and people.

They still do, it's called intra-imperial conflict.

They're not inhabited predominantly why WASPs though, are they? They're inhabited predominantly by jews.

You know you lefties with your mistrust of the 'capitalist class' aren't so different from nazis. You just need to take the final step in realizing the people who hold the positions responsible (particularly in 🍀🍀🍀high finance🍀🍀🍀) for the great inequalities and misdeeds of our society are jewish.

Perfect example of capitalist shipping jobs away and leaving the working class to rot, isn't it funny when they do it other places to a lesser extent and a familiar thing starts to happen?

And I perfectly explained why that was the case and that its only going to increase for all working class regardless of ethnicity. Reducing people to "bad" and "good" is tumblr levels of autism, people being raised in a bad environment and are trying to survive or cope and sometime make bad decisions because of it does not make them bad. White people don't commit crimes because of their genes, humans did not evolve with a crime "gene".

Jews are shit but its the capitalist regardless of their ethnicity that fuck over the working class, history shows that the ruling class always fucks over the lower class.

Except they do

Yes we did there are genes that increase aggression.

Both pol and leftypol are for the working class so why is there so much disagreement?
Where pol stops short with leftypol is that they don't want to help the whole world and they'd rather be isolationists with libertarian economic policies, if not Nazi.

Friendly reminder that Seattle has near-identical economic policies to Detroit, but has a majority white demographic and is one of the fastest growing cities in the world.

You claimed it was purely socioeconomics when we can literally see for ourselves genetic disparities. It's not purely genetic, but genetics are without a doubt a significant portion of it.

People that do things that are destructive to society are bad. How are you going to tell me to not judge people based on their behavior as 'good' and 'bad' when you do that yourselves with your 'capitalist class'. Judgments like that are necessary.

We literally can point to genes that have a direct correlation with criminal/violent behavior. These genes are significantly more common in blacks than any other race. See

Under feudalism your lord would have exploited you, yeah. Hence why all hierarchy and classes must be smashed.

Leftists have been infected with the psychological disease known as Marxism/nihilism. They've been programmed by the jewish media to hate white people, and all of what they aim to realize serves to destruct white civilization at the beck of their jewish capitalist overlords.

completely and utterly wrong.

every country in the world bar maybe Cuba has capitalists. there simply aren't enough jews to go around

Seems legit. And high finance is one branch of the leviathan known as Capital.

"high finance", "international elements/financiers" etc, are all Nazi codewords. Same as "degenerate".

You will never be able to attack the root of the problem if you can't name the Jew and sure once his parasitic nature has been removed another will take his place.

Okay. Does that refute any point that I made?


Is this an argument intended to refute the point, because it doesn't appear to be.

We don't hate white people there not the problem. We hate anyone who owns a business.

Most of them were and are for mass-immigration, regardless though, you will still have to deal with wageslavery, shit social mobility, privatization within your own country, terrible long work hours, a strong police and surveillance state, the EU, and all the other classcuckery bullshit that comes with capitalism.

They are willing to say anything to get into power, were either if its socialist, capitalist or not, they are mainly populist that will give you the same as above but with even more authority.

What I find hilarious is that libertarianism is essentially the Communism of the right.

But they refer to very real things in society. That's almost like me dismissing leftypol because your code words are "Capitalists", "Porkies", "Social Constructs" etc..

Marx was a fascist

fuck off, rat. follow your beloved Fuhrer and do the world a favor


you lie and manipulate the workers to attack anyone and everyone to maintain the capitalist system


"Capitalism" accurately describes society (who fucking disputes this?) and "social construct" is a valid term employed by sociologists, philosophers and social scientists. Porky is a silly joke more than anything.

Liberals are right wing bro, they are capitalist, they are not socialist.

Zionist and capitalist Jews hate socialism, why would they promote something that would destroy them? Nearly all of them hate socialism.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meir_Kahane

They see it as a threat to their apartheid state, in which it certainly definitely is.

Absolutely booty blasted. Go ahead tell us that Jews aren't behind the movement of global capital.

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If owning a business was so undeservedly lucrative, everyone would own one. Being a business owner requires intelligence, networking skills, dedication, and it requires huge risks. These are qualities that not everyone is willing or capable of putting forward. By the metric of these qualities, people who are of higher value to society deserve more than someone who flips burgers at McDonalds.

Leftists have been wrongfully infused with hatred for any successful or above average person. Your hatred should be directed at those in the highest echelons of finance. People who own and coordinate institutions like the Federal Reserve, the Deutschbank, the IMF. Our societies are structured in such a way that when the government takes taxes out of a citizen's paycheck, the product of their labor goes straight to pay national debt owed to these financial institutions (which by the way are privatized). The people who oversee the flow of money within these institutions are then free to do with the capital as they wish. There's zero oversight. No audits. That's how people like the Rothschilds and Bernankes established their monumental fortunes. There's no getting out of that national debt either. By our fiat-currencies very nature, the 'working class' will only lose out to the 'capitalist class' in control of these institutions.

It's the greatest, most nefarious scheme in the history of mankind. It's a game of financial musical chairs on a global/national scale that serves to usurp the labor product of the people and put it right into the hands of those in control of the banks, who are, coincidentally, predominantly jewish.

"Fascism" refers to a very specific system of class collaboration, capitalist dictatorship and suppression of communism. Enough of this liberal horseshoe bullshit.


One look at any rich-list would tell you you're completely and utterly wrong. Are there rich Jews? Duh. But most are workers, like any other fucking group.

You see everything in terms of race and ethnicity which isn't the point. Class is.

Socialism isn't all about Marx and, why did capitalist theorist use his theories and ideas to revive capitalism when it failed once already? He must of actually been saying something right at least.

You're making my point for me. All those Nazi code words also describes society. Most leftists and commie larpers are degenerates, you may not be but most are.


To your picture

2. What's wrong with rejecting modernism?
3. No one is going to act for your best interest other than yourself.
7. Being born in the same country is a little more than being born on a plot of land. At least that was the case 100 years ago.
9. That's a very Buddhist teaching
10. Why wouldn't we be contemptuous of the weak? The weak have always envied the strong.
11.This is bad how?
12.What?


Communism failed once already, why should we revive it?

It requires capital for the startup and luck. That is it. Even IF this mythical business owner image in your head was true, he still isn't the one that is making his wealth. It is his workers that are making his wealth with their labor. I doesn't matter if this business owner is smart, dumb, clever, or kind he is still profiting of the exploitation of others.


Oh you mean the same institutions that has sprung out of the system of capitalism that was used to support corporations? These is simple porky faction deflection to take down one branch of the finance system so the other can prosper. This type of talk already happened in France, with corporations encouraging the public to hate the banks, such as the US corporate porky is doing right now. The Left wishes for a complete systemic change.


It's also structured in such a way that the worker doesn't even get the full fruits of his labor. They don't even get the full product of their labor.


The greatest scheme of all time is getting people like you to focus on high finance instead of looking at the systemic problem. People like you do one porky's work in screwing another porky while they benefit.

If I drive a car am I profiting off the exploitation of car manufacturers?

And if so, am I exploiting the workers or the managers or both?

There is nothing a business owner does that can't be done by someone else, if the workers need management they will simply hire one to do the job, he will obviously be paid more for his work otherwise someone else would be definitely be willing to.

Its comes out the small amount they get from wage slavery, most of the product of their labor gets extracted from the owner for no other reason than being the owner. This causes lots of problems, we would not have needed to make our entire economy run on debt in the first place if people were given the full amount of their labor.

Here is just two reasons.
1. The working class would be able to spend most and a larger amount of their money on things, flushing it back into the economy if they were not stuck with small shitty wages, instead they have to take out loans or use credit(money they don't have!), to keep it going.

2. Due to the accumulation of wealth at the top 1%, most of the wealth does not get flushed back into the economy because there is no reason for them buy multiples of the same product once they have it. Its a problem because the 1% is such a small part of the population and obviously spend enough to sustain the economy itself(how many flat screens would they need to buy?), and they only accumulate more and more wealth while being unable to spend it.

This causes the government to get more hands on with the economy and figure out ways to get the wealth back into the economy(taxes, bank faggotry etc).

i rly don't care about politics, none of you have any kind of actual influence in the real world, this is a circle jerk, mind as well be reddit

The USSR was state capitalist, you can't even have a communist state in the first place.

Communism is way too far into the future to even worry about it much, the main objective for now is socialism.

Those Nazi codewords are wrong and deliberately designed to mislead the workers. Fascism is a project of the elite to preserve power. The industrialists and conservative old guard threw in their lot with Hitler. The Prussianised structure of society was maintained. Hierarchy was maintained.

Honestly the teaching of interwar Germany must be appalling in schools.

2. Modernism is rational and tradition is invented nonsense, projection onto a mythical past.
3. That isn't what a cult of violence and action means.
7. 100 years ago borders didn't even exist as we know them today. Designed to control the workers of the world. A country does not tangibly exist and it can be modified and abolished at any time.
9. It means that fascism is designed to keep people constantly aggressive and fighting with each other over scraps.
10. "Weakness" is determined by forces mostly outside an individual's control. At any moment you could become a weak nobody. Under capitalism, your boss could discard you and you'd be nothing.
11.Gender roles and conformity harm everyone
12. Fascists are obsessed with sex and gender roles No surprise so many of them are closet gay men. It's all very homoerotic isn't it. Fit young men marching around in tight clothing.

Watching you NEETS trying to talk about business is like watching a dog listening to classical music.

I don't understand this analogy. Exploitation is the result of the relationship between the owner and the worker. The owner doesn't give the worker the full fruits of his labor so he can obtain profit (don't know if it's called surplus profit or not but will just say profit). You are not exploiting the workers for buying the works of his labor, you are not the one making him engage in wage labor and then holding back a portion of the value of his labor.

Exploitation isn't a vague feels concept. It's a concrete thing that happens in the relationship of the worker and the owner. Now, this isn't a controversial thing but is infact justified by the capitalists. He says such as you said (unless you are another poster)


Because he is so smart and takes such huge risks, he deserves the portion of his workers labor. There is no denial of it, only justification of it.

Not to mention that coops are a much better alternative to normal business, better work conditions, less alienation, and have a much higher chance of being successful and not failing at high rates.

I didnt understand yours either.

If a worker chooses to sell me his Labour surely its no different than if a car manufacturer chooses to sell me a car.

Its up to me if I want to pay what he is asking and its up to him if he wants to accept what Im paying.

yeah, we're not as cool as you,
"i spend Holidays day posting race diatribes online" dude

Actually I spent my holidays watching dogs listen to classical music.

Communism is the projection of a mythical future

Equality doesn't tangibly exist either so why are you so hell bent on it?

Except that is the exact opposite of what Hitler did for Germany.

That's a poor argument because you could find a new boss or employ yourself.

Marxist Equality does the same thing

Projection

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It's actually completely different because of the positions of the classes. The worker has no choice but to sell his labor in the market. The car manufacturer wishes to sell his cars, and looks for a good car-dealership to sell his cars for even more profit. The car capitalists is not in any need to sell his labor. He is ""luckily"" well off without going to the market, selling his labor while not getting his full value of it.

Workers built that car though, he simply collects most of the money, wageslave his workers for 10$ and then plays golf without doing a thing besides paying people to do everything. His corporation becomes bigger, then he crushes smaller business and drives them out, contributing to the eventual complete slowdown of social mobility.

Know all those nice white folks who work in coalmines in middle America, guess what? Their father was a coalminer, their fathers father was a coalminer and so on and so on. *sniff*

You don't even know what we mean by equality, it isn't make everyone "equal" what we mean by equality we mean equal opportunity. Not the retarded liberal definition which indeed does not "exist".

Why in the living fuck do you think that socialism=Marxism?
Also what in the living fuck is "Marxist equality"?

Why were capitalist hellbent on equality? It was something that they promised during, before and after their revolution.

Nah, we don't believe in utopia or superstition.

It's beneficial for everyone.

He crushed the workers movement and invaded country after country to loot resources in the pursuit of a fascist goal.

Full employment will never happen under capitalism. The system is built to prevent it. Self employment is even more precarious and most workers don't have the capital.

Not really. You can still develop a sense of your individual self. More so than capitalism, since the threat of coercion and hierarchy is gone. Capitalism destroys culture and makes everything about profit. Nobody will hold power over you and you will not hold power over anyone.

Ernst Röhm
Edmund Heines
Jörg Haider
Michael Kühnen
Karl-Günther Heimsoth
Nicky Crane
Michael Kühnen
Karl Ernst

All fascists, all gay. Now personally I don't give a shit about gays but fascists are the ones obsessed with "degeneracy", "alpha and beta", "effeminacy" and all that laughable stuff.

I need your help on 4/pol/

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/104377302

come on comrades.

Loads of people in my city choose not to enter the labour market.

If you have enough kids they give you up to £26,000 per year welfare. (about $32K)

They chose to build it in exchange for being paid.

Polices don't matter here, the jobs packed up and left, drug use in poor areas skyrockets and disseminates them.
Actually we don't, we understand that the system is shit because it fucks everyone over including the capitalist.

the Tories are slashing that down to 20k. That's poverty level for a family.

They basically invented Welfare to keep people from revolting TBH.

I know a lot of working families that get by on that..

They dont have the latest branded smart gadgets. And they have to cook food at home rather than eat takeaways.
But its hardly poverty.

If they don't work they die, you do understand that people fall into poverty and die in this country right? 50% of this country is in fucking poverty and its rising ffs, people don't have much of a choice.

Someone is always willing to work for less, people would work for1$ a hr if they have to because it sure as hell beats dying.

If not having the latest BMW is poverty you could say 99% of people are in poverty.

Nobody chose to be born into poverty
Nobody chose to be born in a slum
Nobody chose to be malnourished
Nobody chose to endure oppression from the state and their boss

The narrative of choice is nonsense. Freedom will never exist under capitalism because the system itself is unequal and coercive by its very nature.

50% of the country does not live in a slum.

Stop being silly.

'Almost half the world — over three billion people — live on less than $2.50 a day. At least 80% of humanity lives on less than $10 a day. More than 80 percent of the world's population lives in countries where income differentials are widening.'

globalissues.org/article/26/poverty-facts-and-stats

Latest thread archived. Which is a shame, it was just getting juicy too.

Their responses are so fucking funny. Call us authoritarian and say "detractors get shot by the state", yet they are mostly fascists. Hitler did the same fucking thing. Hypocrisy?

I was talking to the guy that said 50% of this country is in poverty:

If 50% of Americans are near or below the federal poverty line then they are.

Ohhh right yeah it's more or less around about 15 percent going by the 2015 figures in the US which is still ridiculously high for a nation of it's wealth though

Hypocrecy is a core tenant of fascism

I didn't say they did?

But the fact that anyone in the world lives in a slum is a damning indictment on capitalism. We can and must do better.

I was the Britanon. It was fun.

Incredibly apparent. They have so many misconceptions about us it is not even funny.

They are no better than liberals when it comes to identity politics and tribalism.

Around about 48743100 people if you do the maths

Saw you're posts. Well done. I was posting a ton throughout as well but I don't use an ID tag in any way.

I think the point is we need some new words to understand eachother better.

For instance theres poverty, As in you cant afford the latest fashionable sneakers and chinese products growing up.
And then theres real poverty where your enduring the lifelong consequences of childhood malnutrition.

Like with rape. They need to have rape as in where a woman has sex while drunk at a party and the guy is below her status so she regrets it the next day. And real rape where she gets dragged down an alley by a stranger and left bleeding and crying.

yeah lol

Thank you :D

Sorry about that, I threw in the Americans who were "near poor" in and getting poorer, which is still pretty bad isn't it?

Poverty in America is nothing to gleen over it's not a case of not being able to afford, 'the latest fashionable sneakers' as you say but instead a struggle to find warm housing or basic necessities.
If this isn't bad enough poverty rates have actually risen. The 2015 poverty rate was 1.0 percentage point higher than in 2007, the year before the 2008 recession.

Don't forget:

The irony is enough to kill ya

"Werner Goldberg was a German who was of half Jewish ancestry, or Mischling in Nazi terminology, who served briefly as a soldier during World War II and whose image appeared in the Berliner Tageblatt as "The Ideal German Soldier", and his image was later used in recruitment posters for the Wehrmacht."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werner_Goldberg

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Its definitely bad and going in a worrying direction.
Thats why I think its important to have a consistent and universal idea of what poverty actually is.

I cant even remember what the original discussion was about now.

Fair enough but then you cant say that 50% of Americans are in poverty. 50% of households earn more than $52,000 per year where as the average heating bill in the US is $600 per year.

It's also one of humanity's greatest exports.


We have things like 'private property =/= personal property' and 'worker control not state control'.

Members of the household matters a lot here along with debt, roughly 30% live pay check to pay check also, its complicated.

Fuck, that first pic is on-point. Daily reminder that the term "brocialist" is nothing but liberalization of the new socialist movement designed to prevent us from focusing on class conflict.

meant

This is why the Democratic party is enemy #1 to the new, emerging socialist movement. We must distinguish liberal from socialist in the eyes of the working class - we must find and expose evidence that the Democratic party establishment and our entire political system is merely a puppet of the economic ruling class. All of these young Bernie supporters who lean left must realize that bourgeois society has truly left them behind so that they can become class-conscious comrades of the new socialist revolution.

Agreed 100%. Spot on man.

slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2015/01/05/america_s_poor_vs_the_rest_of_the_world.html
lets not forget to compare "Americans standards" to the rest of the world. kek

And who supplied the material? Who supplied the tools? Who supplied the area to make said car? Who paid the utilities and taxes on said building? Who provided you with the instruction to build said car? Fuck off, you retards never address the true heart of the situation.

Workers built and could do all those things too.

And who supplied those workers the means to gather said material and make said tools? At the heart of the matter is capital and those willing to sell their labor for that capitol. The worker made nothing. The worker spent time putting a screw into hole with material he doesn't own, tools he doesn't own, in a building he doesn't own or pay maintenance on, for a business he put no capital in yet you have this autistic notion he deserves to keep the product he was paid to partially assemble by someone? It's hilarious

Why would a capitalist hire a worker to make nothing?

We have coops that do all the things you mentioned already, a whole economy can be built on them.

Capitalist can not earn a dime if their workers walked out the door, but the workers can do everything the capitalist can without them, they are simply not needed.

A capitalist hires a worker to assemble, gather, and dispense. The worker does not make unless they provided the original idea, which if that was the case, they'd probably end up higher on the food chain due to making themselves more valuable to the company.

If the workers walked away, the Capitalist will just hire someone else who's willing to do the work because their will always be someone willing to sell their labor for compensation. As for the coop, this implies the workers have the general know how to produce the product beyond their designated job, have the capital(!!!) to acquire the material and tools to shape said product, and then the means to find someone wiling to buy their product or a way to viable put it out to market. There's more to running a business than just putting money into it. Making the product is barely just the first step

Pure Ayn Rand fantasy land

Coops hire people just like normal business if they need someone to do a certain job they don't know how to do themselves. It was already mentioned in this thread earlier that coops are a better mode of production than normal business due to reasons above post.

How did the capitalist acquire that capital in the first place? Either by huge loans, inheritance, or winning the social mobility lottery(highly unlikely). Even then most small business get wiped off the map due to corporations crushing them and then its back to that 9$ wage again at Walmart. Even if someone comes up with a "idea" does not mean that they should be entitled to everyone's labor, they obviously should be paid much more if they are skilled at coming up with their ideas for sure. But still without workers, their ideas are meaningless for the most part.

Problems normal businesses cause for the economy were also addressed earlier in the thread.

You're missing the issue here, they still can't do anything without workers.

You're right about coops being a good model for workplace democracy in a socialist society, but it's important to remember (as you probably know) that coops within a capitalist economy can't solve the essential problem with the global economic substructure any more than socialism in one country can, for pretty much the same reasons. Capitalism is inherently destructive to democracy in all forms.

And the worker can't do anything without Capital or did you like ignoring that part?


Hire them with what money? Buy those materials with what money? A Coop isn't immune to the necessities of the market just because le ebil capitalist is gone

Inheritance counts for less than 30% of all wealth in the country, a large chunk of the successful businessmen out here started from scratch, something that's not easy in today's regulation heavy business environment. And yes, having the "idea" and marketing does entitle you to the lions share of the profit, if those worker's feel their labor is worth more, they can go elsewhere but you don't have the right to walk in and make demands when you made no investment and taken no risk. You work here, you don't own anything. Also, Walmart pays $10-11 actually, higher than the minimum wage in most states.


This isn't even objectivism, it's reality. You're the retards claiming you have a right to product you were paid to assemble even if you didn't buy what was needed to make it. It's like being a chef and saying you have a right to customers food because you made it even though they PAID you to do so

Can we stop with this already?
It's like pissing in the ocean.There's nothing much we can do.
I propose to go on r/FULLCOMMUNISM and divert some users to here.

I sort of agree. 99% of them aren't interested in reason. But it feels wrong to just give up

There's literally no point in continuing the fallacy.

We should go to reddit and divert, as i said.

boards.4chan.org/co/thread/88669562

Workers have built and cooperatively owned factories in that past, in a socialist system a community and government would help with setting up a firm, we already do it with small businesses.

With the same money a capitalist would with his. The workers would find out how much they need to have in the firms savings to keep it up and running, crises happenings, etc.

America is the land where small business die, with and without regulations, corporations will still find a way to crush competition and monopolize, they did it before and they somehow continued to afterwards, with more trouble of course.

The workers can take the risk all by themselves, hire another idea guy and a marketer on top of that, the other idea guy can go home and be out of a job.

You can't be this retarded, go read basic economics on capitalism. The surplus they produced by their labor isn't the costumers food.

Another thing that makes coops more successful than small business is that they operate on much lower costs.

customers*

That's fundamentally untrue. It's especially stupid to say that one the internet of all places that runs on user driven content and would collapse without it.

No one needs capital but capital. Kill every last bourgeois and the workers are completely unaffected.

Fucking gommies.

4chans traffic doubled this year because of you r/the_donald ledditards, it was already ruined.

kek

Daily reminder that r/fullcommunism went to shit because of teenage quasi Maoists who think Stalinism is edgy or profound.

Sadly, this.
Mao was an idiot,retard, pedo.

But there is still a chance to divert some sane comrades.

I just fear we will all get banned,because leddit is a big fucking torture chamber.We should be stealthy af.

Fuck, I didn't know h u g box was filtered.
Maybe because i haven't used it still.

Who cares? That wasn't the point, anyways its funny that Walmart is a perfect example for being one of the biggest small business killing corporations out there.

Daily reminder that Reddit is pure unsalvageable cancer and there is no good excuse to be browsing it, le entryist fantasies or no.

Also that is a horrible wage for living standards.

Well that begs the question then, why aren't there more coops? Something vaguely leftist like this may suffer from cultural conditioning against it, but surely not to this degree.

Most workers don't have the capital

I think r/fullcommunism doesn't take itself that seriously. It's more of a meme coop.

New favourite shitposting method: pretending to be a Jew and bait Nazis

You can't even attempt entryism due to them banning you for essentially anything at this point

Holla Forums has been cancer for much longer than Trump

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/104414020

t. upper-middle class urban kid

livingwage.mit.edu/articles/18-new-2015-living-wage-data

He's right

No, he's not. You can easily live a comfortable life with a minimum wage job. Sure your job might suck, but the money is enough for a living wage.

most people on a minimum job have to skip meals and live like monks. what sort of life is that?

That's not true. I remember reading a study that portrayed statistics about people who earned a minimum wage and the stuff they could afford. Around 85% of them claimed they never experienced a single day being hungry. Sure, there is the remaining 15% left, which I assume it's single parents or workers taking care of an ill relative.
The problem here is that minimum wage jobs suck, and that there are people working for less than a minimum wage. The livable wage thing is pure liberal bullshit.

If you think the point of this exercise is to win people over to posting on Holla Forums then you've failed to understand who you are, what this is, and what is within your capabilities.

The point is not to bring people here, but to help shape correct ideas in the class as a whole; to build class consciousness. To go to places like leddit, like halfchan, and provide decent arguments that actually challenge their worldviews, that force them outside of their ideological safe-spaces. If anything, it's better if they don't come here to post. We want the ideas of the internet as a whole become socialist ones, through genuine and proper understanding, because this is how class consciousness can be raised in this era.

What about the quality of food they buy? Where they live? Computer? Car? etc.

no, please dont give up, i love your threads, your efforts, your tears, your hopelessness, and how you achieve nothing.

We in /pol need boogiemen like negroes and SJWs; and without dumb opposition that challenges our anger like CTR or leftypol, we might loose our shitposting edge.

Well, we did win WW2.

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/104465550

Super ripe thread

You did what?
You did what to whom?

What about WW2 makes you think you are a part of it?

and,

What about WW2 makes you think (supposedly) you did something to /pol, the internet forum?

You might be quite delusional in believing you are part of some sort of club or something that spawns from at least WW2 to today.

Bash the fash.

I would assume the quality is good, food quality is pretty standard even for the cheapest food.
No idea where they live, but from the poor (who earn less than a minimum wage IIRC) 75% have a car or truck, and 50% have a computer.
Again, the issue isn't so much a "livable" minimum wage.
Also, I was mostly refuting what the guy above said, which was pretty wrong.

WE

You did nothing.
Russian soldiers did it.And they were fighting for the beloved motherland, not for some bearded idiots from some old books.

You did nothing.
You are pathetic fat kids and idiots behind the monitors.

I don't care about your assumptions.
I mean the quality of the car/truck, also 50% with a computer is pretty bad.
Okay.

Kek, I guarantee you I'm more fit than you are. You're right they were fighting for their motherland, against grimy fascist.

HE WAS RESPONDING TO ME, HE DIDN'T REALLY DESERVE AN ANSWER.

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And I also guarantee you, I live on Mars and I have a harem of alien fuccbois.

I have bought cheap food where I live and it's alright. I would assume cheap food in the US is far better. The point remains, the poor who earn less than a minimum wage have enough money to not fear hunger.

A car is a car. Now you are just asking me to prove something there is no proof for. There aren't studies showing of how good quality the cars the poor own are.
True. But again, remember these are people who earn less than a minimum wage, so clearly the problem isn't the livable wage thing. Also, in most places, libraries have free internet.

I'm a personal trainer, fitness is my job m8. I don't know what you're expecting to argue about, we're just flinging shit at each other.

Well, you are the one who bragged about muscles and shit in first place.

I just did a quick google search, and there are quite a few people who live in food insecure households.
feedingamerica.org/hunger-in-america/impact-of-hunger/hunger-and-poverty/

Anyway, it's obviously the case that development is high in countries like America but I don't think that's really relevant to leftist politics, and "minimum wage" imo, is a non-solution.

And Holla Forums largely doesn't leave the house, what's your point?

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Hey, comrades, the international lefty revolution DOES NOT SLEEP, so why are you sleeping?

Come and show some dialectic market socialism to the capitalists that dare shitpost on my new reeducation thread: boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/104472844

Feel free to contribute.

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Can you fags stop jerking each other off here and go com-post on 4pol? Holla Forums is the mainstream edgelord paradise, with soft-brained kids ripe for radicalisation arriving every day.

You look like that one gyppo begging kid which persuades you for 10 minutes, constantly asking you for money.

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Join your kin my man!

Hey, comrades, the international lefty revolution HAS ALREADY STARTED, so why are you not posting in my thread?

Come and show some dialectic market socialism to the capitalists that dare shitpost on my new reeducation thread: boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/104532475

Feel free to contribute.

The last thread was a TOTAL MARXIST SUCCESS!!!

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/104505325
We have nice thread

Neither fascists nor marxists won WW2. Capitalism master race saved the day again.

4chan isn't an echo chamber.
No censoring, no up votes, threads with different opinions get a lot of replies.

boards.4chan.org/qa/thread/910693


More Holla Forumstard insanity. Everyone laugh at the freak.

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/104498536

You're entirely wrong. The cheapest food tends to be the least healthy, especially in America where heavily processed foods are king due to the necessity of shelf-stable and long travelling foods. Most low income people are unlikely to either have access to produce or purchase it due to its limited shelf life; if you buy produce that rots before you use it then you've lost a chunk of your money.

As for cars or home appliances, in the US, cars are 100% necessary unless you live in a very small handful of cities. Jobs flat-out require them because the lack of a car means a lack of consistent transportation, so even the poorest person has to buy whatever car they can get. Cars tend to be the most siginificant percent of the net worth of a low-income household, and since they can rarely afford a quality car, that means they often have to pay for patchups and repairs. Appliances like refridgerators are almost always provided in a rental situation, and refridgerators are, again, a necessity for keeping food edible.

If you've never experienced poverty or been around it, then you won't understand most of this, but "poverty" isn't just starving in the streets. It's buying the cheapest things you can to stretch your pennies to your next paycheck as best you can, then doing the same thing again.

amazing

That just means that the extreme favored by the status-quo wins out, not that it isn't an echo chamber. Reddit is the same but a little more ideologically moderate partially because of these differences.

based Britbong at it again


that thread is great. Holla Forums seems a bit stumped. Sad!

B B BASED BRIT!
S S STUMPTH!!!

enjoying your visit here?

Hey lads, a nice thread is developing here boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/104554646

bump

Wtf is that Mexican poster doing

he is bashing the fashists, thats why he calls himself "Bash the Fash" I think he is quite an Alpha Male, and is a Personal trainer for a living, so he is fit as fuck.

Clearly some deep layer of autism

I agree. now if only we can be certain if he is /fa/ or not. truely he would be a god among man if that were the case.

What a classcuck.

it is the case.

here is a pic of him with a little lion he keeps as a pet.

Enough of you bastards shitting up our board, that's why you got this one

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

youtube.com/watch?v=9JwJ_HPfJgQ

New thread, as always last one was a success: boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/104576979

bleh.
You guys should just have non-sectarian leftist threads.

also, do you guys actually use discord, or is that just a meme?

what is discord?

It's basically just voice chat.

Here's an idea, bros: now that we KNOW that we can influence Holla Forums, we might profit from doing it a bit more carefully.

In other words, instead of just posting in our generals, we could sway them by slowly moving them further and further to the left. This ideological reassignment has to be slow.

If someone was raised to hurt himself every day, you can't just convince him to stop completely, as this seems like lunacy to him. You need to start by convincing him that it won't be the end of the world if he misses one day, and build on that.

So since they are infested with an ideology that hurts both them personally and their entire class, first we must switch them to a slightly less harmful one. And then the next one. And then the next, etc. until they see the light.

This will take a lot of patience, but the moment we become the majority, we can shut them up for good.

What do you guys think?

That you are autistic as fuck, and you will not have any kind of effect.

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/104579004

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/104581294

Why does the "white" working class care so much about worthless nobody blue collar jobs?

Arent they busy pretending to be all smart and better than the non whites?

These are the jobs that matter most, the jobs that create value, as opposed to the bullshit jobs that exist only in capitalism and only serve the purpose of making more money for yourself.

Innovation, science, technology is far more important for the future than a failed white working in mcdonalds or other low tier job

Last thread was as always a success, so keep the truth bombs floowing!!! Dialectic Market Socialists, here we go!
boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/104582914

You idiots are fooling nobody.

Fire up the ovens, Hanz!

You faggots fail every time

Don't forget to report Holla Forumslacks who post links to 8ch.net, since it's against the rules there and it'll get them banned.

T H I C C

this. just mass report them and they WILL get deleted.

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Ironic how you call 4pol a safe space/echochamber yet have extensive word filters and censhorship here.
Really pathetic.

Where?

Here

Holla Forums has much less censorship than 8/pol/ and wordfilters are a long time part of imageboard culture, not that I would expect Holla Forumsack ledditors to know anything about imageboard culture.

Where? Who is being censored on this board?

you can't make this shit up

The sky is clouded by Your grace
Your sacred earth we desecrate
Supreme above it all, You reign
Please wash away this human stain
The time to crush, to overtake
The very end is still at stake
Won't You end this pointless quest?
And kill the world, then lay to rest?

DEUS VULT!

And even if we were to accept that, do you really think that is a good defence to say that you should be spared prison because your friend that helped with the shooting killed more five year-olds than you did?


Here and people that post here

The Asian moot literally couldnt handle freedom and has range banned a ton of ips.

I just feel good because i am responsible for getting most of greek ips banned, greeks lost their Holla Forumstard safe space and its influences weakens here every day.

Try it, commie tards.

You guys are just mad you aren't doing it.

Pfffft whahahhahahahhhahah!

this.

we are not a bunch of babies who report everything we disagree with.

you only get banned for raids

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thank you based greekposter

The wordfilter is not censorship
It doesn't block any views and it's literally just there for comedic effect

do we still have Bernie Sanders name blacked out? \test

Again:
You can discuss any topic you like, all we are doing is poking fun at your abuse of dog whistles and loaded language.

I'm not sure.
Sometimes I use it and it blocks it out, other times not.

Wordfilters should be used to counter spam or at the very most be a slight joke that goes both ways (ie. not only against people you don't like), not to dictate the official board stance.

Indeed, you can discuss any topic you like. As long as it reaches the right conclusion, obviously.

No you don't

[citation needed]
You can come to Holla Forums and present your leftie "arguments" but you get BTFO every single time… what do you expect would happen if you back up an ideology that has a history of nothing but failure?

Literally the entire board screeched at the BO over this for days until they relented, now there are no policies like this of any kind.


By the mod because I was banned for "shilling". :^)

says the guy from the board that bans you if you link to Holla Forums

I have to admit that sometimes i miss how easy it is to bait Holla Forumstards.
I was known as the greek furfag and i managed to get them to range ban 3 of the biggest ISPs in greece.

Not buying it, fam

Says the guy from the board that advocated for taking advantage of that by reporting anyone posting the link, knowing fully well that the users wouldn't be banned for it otherwise. The fact that you posted this in the very fucking same thread those posts were made goes to show how desperate you are.

Fuck reddit. We don't want those useless assholes here. And it's full of CTR/astroturphing. That's the elast of what we want.

At least those on chans are more of the counter-culture. Some may be going through their "libertarian" phase. It's the beginning of figuring things out, imo. I think most Americans specifically go through a libertarian phase. I did, when I was around 20, until I saw the "Tea Party/FOX News bus tour". That made me wise up, quickly. I'm sure there are many lefties on Holla Forums who just don't know of a left board.


The fact you compare lefties to CTR is hilarious. You really need to lurk more.

what kind of retard are you?

kommie kitters :3

I didn't expect you to. It's true regardless.

Also, we are not responsible for any fucking idiot that claims to represent us as a community. Warsie was generally regarded as a resident shitposter.


Don't know what you are talking about.

How about you guys indoctrinate millions more dumbass college kids, and leave us alone. It's easier for you and for us, plus you get more dumbasses to shit your ideology everywhere. Also, when you say 4pol is an echo chamber in a thread that is LITERALLY celebrating the leftist presence on 4pol, you show how stupid you can be.

No one said that. But sometimes it can be funny. The word filters at least are really funny.

Especially on Holla Forums, this obviously isn't the case.

If you're talking about idpol, that's not us. Lurk more.

New here, what is idpol?

I don't think you read my post very carefully. I never said that left=echo chamber.

Learn some reason comprehension, retard. He said that celebration of the presence of leftist viewpoints implies the opposite of the statements about 4/pol/ being an echo chamber, not that being left is literally being an echo chamber.

Idpol is what they call anything they don't like when they can't use the term "social construct" due to the association with SJWs when talking about political views.

Identity politics. It's using something about your identity, politically. Like skin color, religion, sexual orientation. Rather than class, they focus on these small differences in us all. It creates groups & division.

Someone else can explain it was better than me. I might have a screencap of someone doing just that, let me check.


You're an idiot. Even rightists dislike idpol.

Why?
4pol is not a safe space for the right, or at least that's what you always tell us.

We're going to spread our ideology amongst the college kids AND keep bothering you with it.

What are you gonna do about it, fuccboi?

Bringing a leftist presence to 4/pol/ is going against the echo chamber.

And yet in plenty of threads you can see posts calling right-wing movements idpol on the basis of nationality being a spook.

Low effort shitposters are the worst. That's a huge difference between 4/pol/ & 8ch.

Both sides can use idpol, as it's easy & lazy ideology. If you're using your skin color as a basis to put forth an argument, it's lazy idpol.

Your speech isn't suppressed you dumb niggers and everyone knows what you mean anyway just like with word filters on 4chan.

Word filters have always been a thing on imageboards, you redditors are new as fuck.

Nationality isn't based on skin colour though, Africa is pretty much entirely black and yet it still consists of a shitload of different countries.

There is a slight difference between spam, and presenting reasonable leftist arguments. You guys just spam. If you could actually win arguments, you would quickly take over 4/pol/. However, you guys just post random crap, and then claim your doing a "systematic takeover". I thought the left was supposed to be about logic or some shit, not just flinging crap and hoping it sticks.

And within those countries there are different tribes that hate each other and have been killing each other for years over spooks.

I'm not communist, btw. I'm a socialist. But division can be bead & antithetical to a cause. Simply thinking your country is superior - without any reasoning to back it up - is stupid, imo. Wanting to help your countrymen though, I think is fine. But - I think all workers, no matter which country are my brothers & sisters. I'll fight for them just as much as my own countrymen or women. We're more interconnected than ever, especially financially. So we need to all stick together. A fight in India against a corporation is just as important as one in the US, as it can set a precedent, etc.

bad*
My keyboard/laptop is royally screwed.

What is " Rwandan genocide"?

No wonder you aren't succeeding at reaching out to people beyond simply attracting people that were already leftist to begin with

Phone posters are cancer, it is not surprising that they really don't understand imageboard culture. Really it would be better for everyone if they just stayed on normie sites such a facebook instead of spreading out and ruining shit.

lmao, there's a big difference.

Not that I've seen. I've seen some leftist memes & good arguments. But I'm pretty sure there are some who aren't from Holla Forums & are just trolling/taking advantage of the situation. Like making posts pretending to be leftist & sound purposely retarded. If it's an obviously bad leftist argument, you can be sure whoever posted it is trolling. Could be someone from Holla Forums, like we're seeing happen a bit in this thread.

I haven't posted in 4/pol/ in about a week, since the holidays were here, etc. But when I did, I had an Indian lag & presented arguments.

Holla Forums in a nutshell, it was always about fun posting and memes, it never spread on "winning arguments" and winning arguments does not necessarily bring someone towards a side because people have something we call IDEOLOGY.

That's one of those Holla Forums people, I just mentioned here There's more than one of you here atm.

Normies phonefags deserve to be gulaged tbh

Oh, the irony.

Indian flag*

gatdmmit

hey guys Holla Forumsbro here

how come you like communism?

I'm fine if you ban people for just spamming.

That's what happens here.
But don't ride your high horse about free speech around here, boyo

Logic does not work when someone has cemented his beliefs and ignores all logical arguments because accepting them means he would have to change something fundamental in him and that would cause total collapse.
Denial exists for a reason sadly.

No, I have paid a decent amount of attention to the board even before this thread, what I said tends to be a very strong sentiment here from a lot of users and that is ignoring Stirnerposters.

What is a leftist anyway? Socialist with different schools of thought are in those threads.

I did not say that at all, it was just the effect of colonialism drawing lines without a care of who were in them.

[file never existed]
I laugh, every time, tbh. :^)

And it's like Holla Forums, spamming places then crying about muh free speech. Some idiots try to ruin it for others.

I'm a socialist. But I don't see communism as a boogeyman. I'll vote for a communist party, for example, if it's one of the best choices in fighting for working people's rights.

You're just being an idiot. how about you present your own argument instead of shitposting trying to mirror others?

thats cool

socialism is good for working people then huh?

Except that I am not

Holla Forums only cares about free speech when it's convenient.

the Holla Forumsyp cries out free speech as he strikes you

Very good. If you want to know more about socialists in the US, you should watch the movie "The Wobblies". You can find it on Youtube & it's a great introduction. Socialism relies on democracy in the workplace. It's goal is to abolish the wage system, meaning workers would own the means of production & wouldn't need a "boss'. They'd be their own boss & make their own decisions in the best interest of the workers. They're the ones working, after all.

You just admitted that's what you were doing. Stop acting intentionally ignorant.

Its like lenin said, bourgeois freedom is the freedom to exploit other

Holla Forums's freedom of speech is the freedom to shitpost without arguments.

sounds interesting ill check it out

who would stop the employees from abusing their power, though, driving up costs?

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I assume other workers would.
Everyone wants their work to succeed. Driving up costs unnecessarily would undoubtedly hurt their business.

Protip: Both are wrong, both are right.

One day we will have no distinction.

I stated that there are a lot of users that believe it is a spook on that very basis. It was put in a slightly silly way but the point was clear nonetheless. I have been lurking the board for quite some time and that has been the observation I have made from that time. Obviously not all users believe that but a very significant portion do.

So freedom of speech is wrong?

In that case - Holla Forums is suffering from ideology, not Holla Forums

maybe

by costs i meant the spiral of higher wages leading to higher costs of living though, my bad

i think there's always that bad egg or group of people who want to abuse a good thing

I've been here for a long time, and Stirner posting is not one o the most popular. Some use it as a meme, some genuinely believe it. There's something to be said about a concept that's only a concept & not concrete or tangible, though.

You also just said "spooks", but didn't even specify what these spooks supposedly were.

Just post your own arguments instead of shitposting. You're not making any difference.

Protip: Mods are fags, most debate the "shills" on Holla Forums as a form of help for thought.

Sometimes the shill will throw poison on the tree, other times it will nurture the tree.

Freedom of speech doesn't cover shitposting

The wages/profit would be balanced & directly connected to output. There's no reason to inflate wages, because it's not sustainable.

Sure. That person, if hurting everyone, would be voted out.

You don't have to speak in riddles, laddy ;^)

Except it actually covers anything
What do you think "freedom" means?

seems like a whole lot of extra work

working in groups for projects in university for example was always a pain in the ass because of different personalities and creative differences

i just feel as though the good intentioned setup of a socialist workplace would be let down due to the complexities of peoples emotions and personalities

but hey i dont know everything, this is my first time here

I'll be the first to admit most of the right wingers on 4/pol/ just spam too, but most of them can calm down with their Kek memes long enough to get shit done, like freaking out the media about a BS pizza scandal. However, maybe it is just a bad taste left in my mouth from CTR, but I've only seen about 2 leftist on 4/pol/ that don't just start spamming "right wing retardads" whenever they get cornered.

freedoms and rights have limits, those limits are much more strict here in a private property

I don't think so. I think the freedom to be able to have actual rights as a working person is much more favorable than being a slave to another.

At least with work, your livelihood & investment is there. At least you have many people, with many inputs. If you're working together doing the same thing, it's likely that you have the same interests & similar goals.

It can be a pro as well as con in some cases. But working together, as I said, on the same project shows a common interest. If one doesn't want the project to succeed, they'll be voted out.

Just like it covers our right to go to 4/pol/ & engage our ideology there?

Also, welcome if I hadn't said that yet. :^) Stick around if you like it here. I personally love this place. It's a nice refuge to talk actual politics.

hmm i dunno, you might be right but it sounds a bit shaky to me

how do you guys feel about multiculturalism, cultures, differences between races that sort of thing?

Parables speak the words the tongue cannot find at the time :^)

Sounds like it does cover shitposting.

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Also that word is slowly becoming synonymous with the term "wrongthink".

But at the same time, spam is an annoyance and includes replies written with no reference to the subject matter of the post replying to.
That shit annoys.

Nothing in life is ever smooth sailing. ;^)

Multiculturalism? I'm actually married to someone of another culture. I don't have very strong feelings, either way, though. I just prefer to not be bothered & live my life the way I choose(as long as I'm not exploiting others).

But racism is a useful tool for division. I'm definitely not racist. See webm related; he explains how capitalism, for example, can use racism in their favor, to divide people.

Speak for myself but I am OK with it. Not OK with open boarders, unregulated immigration, as they hurt workers and increase competition. OK with multiculturalism does not necessarily mean I am out on the streets fighting for it, as class consciousness is my primary goal.

But I am ok with things such as culture and religion so long as it is not used to preach hate. This includes both Muslims and Christians, as an example. Also not cool with people using identities to divide us, as the Democrat/Republican divide is doing currently.

awwww. Thanks guys :)

By shitposting I mean rancid memes, arguments we had a million times and bait

They do, but that does not include a refutation using matter that does not align with the ideals of the board.
The limits need to be more like

There is nonconstructive spam or diversions
And there is constructive criticism and devil's advocacy
The last part "devil's advocacy" may need it's intention to be kept hidden from the person whom it's said to - especially in cases when the person is unlikely to think in such a way due to cognitive dissonance, etc, or because they reject all of a certain argument as a comment they should ignore.

Sometimes the subject matter MUST refer to a past meme, the trick is working out when it is ok to bring up that past meme.

I will add though, that I do favor tradition sometimes. There are some traditions that I personally would never adhere to, but like the fact that they still exist. It's like being able to see how people lived long ago. I do prefer progress, but I enjoy some tradition.

One example of liking a certain tradition is what I've seen here in India, called "Kavadi", a religious ceremony where they pierce their cheeks with spears, lmao. It was awesome to witness, but I ain't doing it.

I was also raised in the south(Kentucky) & like some of our traditions.

Based
I wonder how bad things will get until people start making/populating other imageboards, since it's clear 4chan as a whole is fucked.
Did you shitpost on /vg/'s wow general?

Sure.
I'd love to see the amount of mental gymnastics required to support a failure ideology

Read a book faggot.

meming is not the same as shitposting

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yes, another incredibly easy triggered group of people.

You would expect 4chan to be about freedom and funposting, but the moment you dont brainlessly follow le board/general culture they screech autistically

Quite hilarious really

Though Holla Forums has been a really great place to be a furfag too
archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/deleted/deleted/country/GR/page/16/

Shitposting is a vague flexible concept. There is no finite definition. It's more of an impulsive negative slur to anything a person doesn't like.

It needs to be redefined to:
1. spam,
2. regurgitated unrelated memes or
3. deliberate tactics to derail threads.

The last is very tricky to pinpoint.

Hahahha, how brainwashed are you?

That is the same definition I work with

Furfags and pedos still plague the place.
But lately I believe it's being pushed more often by non native furfags that clearly come from other forums.

To have an economic crisis, you first have to have an economy.

Havent seen that many, mostly are just autistic furries/gays4drumpf

Why would anyone want that?

He wants daddy porky to take his surplus value that bad

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Because the circumstances of the environmental conditions force the economy to grow or wane. It is purely dependent on the environment the society exists in.

Ideologies merely are a function to cope with the issues of the economy caused by environmental phenomena.
Environmental phenomena includes the actions of people.

…What? I'm not for any 'raid". I've been having political discussion there. I actually found common ground or had some fruitful conversations with some people, believe it or not.

What is opportunity cost?

.. wait, is that why loan interest exists?

After you've made back all the money it costs for the equipment, you're stealing labor.

Split it 50/50 then :^)

OR

Make an agreement on the transaction

we should get in on /his/ as well
lots of possible despookings there

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/104612101

Please elaborate.

muh human nature argument?

Holla Forums here. Get the fuck out and stop baiting Holla Forums
Vidya. Keep your stupid rants where they belong.

Besides, Holla Forums is pretty much a babby version of Holla Forums. Stop being fuckbois raiding other boards and go back to Holla Forums, where your shit may not be encouraged but it's allowed. Free speech the shit out of them and stop acting like underage faggots.

We aren't raiding off-topic boards, fam. Sorry for whoever might be but it's not on us as a community. Holla Forums is all we care about.

dude, modbro, can you delete this post? it is hitting too close to the mark…
boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/104612101#p104623970

sure thing. Deleted and banned, Comrade. :)

You're an idiot. No one's buying that. Your efforts to paint lefties in a bad light is both lazy & hilarious.

no need for damage control here, comrades. if /pol / gets upset they'll just bitch on /qa/ for a week until hiro announces he "Fired" modbro again to calm them down. they'll never know if he was really removed, and they'll never know just how deep the infiltration goes. meanwhile we'll keep sliding Holla Forums further left, until it will be the main tool Hillary Clinton uses to get elected in 2020, just as they got Donald Trump into office.

Lurk more, faggot. I could tell from your very first post you're not from here.

Also, you think we support Hillary. That's the icing on the "notfromhere" cake.

All publicity is good publicity?

I'm pretty sure underage people aren't allowed on this chan.

boards.4chan.org/qa/thread/912039#q912039

Pretty funny, tbh.

Hi faggot

The lady that doth protest too much?

The guy who watches too much anime and doesn't care about Shakespeare.

bump for modbro.

Except capitalist knowingly waste and abuse resources, so the environment isn't the only factor.

capitalism shapes that environment.

I agree to an extent, but what does this have to do with capitalism?

And the actions of people are influenced by capitalism so…..

We need some help here!
boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/104635231

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I guess that means every single post in the following archives are all Holla Forums and Holla Forums is just a poor victim in the crossfire
archive.is/c77rt
archive.is/YaVFv
archive.is/aPy8b

There are so many threads that aren't even made by open, self-aware leftists that are saying all kinds of class conscious things beneath the surface when you look through the posts. The mood is shifting.

Give it up, Mexican man. You're so transparent.

oh ok

Thank you leftypol mods from lifting my ban.

I will behave and never again make fun of a fellow poster. I appreciate this display discipline and tolerance, which keeps this thread in good order.

Have a mexican qt as a token of friendship.

We censored some SJW and alt-right buzzwords also some other stuff for the sake of maymays. I'm very happy to see that even this can trigger Holla Forumsacks.

She makes me feel revolutionary.

become a revolutionary, a REAL revolutionary by helping here: boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/104679764

You retards will never learn.

Stay butthurt.

I wouldn't exactly call repeating the same shitty non-arguments over and over again "ruining" but then again you guys actually believe you're the reason Trump got elected and that Jews conspire together and control everything.

S A G E
A
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White culture doesn't exist, and must be promptly replaced

In all seriousness, I'll start off and say that I believe that: yes, some cultures are better than others in that some cultures are downright savage, HOWEVER, what makes me different from the stereotypical Alt-Righter/Neo-Nazi/whatever is that they see culture as a constant, unchanging phenomenon, whether they are aware of this or not. They don't seem to know that cultures developed (perhaps I could even use the word "matured") over time through interaction with their surroundings, as well as other cultures. It's quite beautiful to actually see instances in history where these things collided and synchronized. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greco-Buddhism

Remember this: European culture didn't pull "greatness" out of its ass. It developed over time through interaction


Taking the above information into context, I'm generally with and .I'm more or less gonna rephrase what the two other anons said and say that I'm not supportive of Multicult. It's not that I'm against "Multicult" per se, but I'm not supportive of what's being done in its name, but my biggest gripe is that people who have Multiculturalism as a sort of tenant in their ideology seems to always have a laissez-faire attitude, which is dumb because this attitude causes alienation in and of itself by causing immigrants to kind of huddle together in their own bubble (think chinatowns). The only rational (dare I say humane) solution to allowing immigration while allowing them to be "one with their new home country's people" is to endorse Interculturalism duhaime.org/LegalDictionary/I/Interculturalism.aspx

This ties into my attitude with culture: to achieve a sort of cultural harmony would require interactions between two cultures (but these interactions would have to be done with willing consent by both groups), which would then lead to the possibility of a synchronization of the two parties (kinda like dialectics tbh), In other words: treat culture that has some backward elements with a "take the best, forget the rest" attitude


Might sound generic from a lefty, but I'm on the side that argues that dispositions between races are caused by material conditions by the Base and has become established in culture/ideology by the Superstructure (see pic related). Contrary to the picture, this might be one of the few instances where the Base and Superstructure have become equally effective to each other. There's also the compelling case by that one study that's been getting memed for a little while about poor Somali kids in the UK doing better than poor white British kids. Taking this last sentence into account, it seems that there may be a distant relation between African blacks doing well in academics compared to blacks in countries/territories that had slavery for many generations, and I'm beginning to wonder: if there's any amount of truth to the studies of Autism Level tests and low scores with black people, could it be a legacy of slave owners selectively breeding slaves like we selectively breed farm animals

there were many groups in history in slavery for over 300 years or more with no period in between
so no, there is no basis for slave breeding in the us of a

We're better off contributing intelligently to the organically occurring discussions that have the potential to be class conscious. Threads like this, for example:
boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/104695013
boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/104687049
boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/104693874

The generals are a bad idea, and they're just full of shitposting usually.

Leave our board, Mexican Holla Forums retard. You're probably the one who tried to gather "evidence" against us that you created. Here boards.4chan.org/qa/thread/912039
You're painfully new & over your head.

You two as well. This is a cyclical thread. Learn how imageboards work before posting on them.

Not too be all 'brigady' or whatever
but this thread could sure use some knowledge bombs

boards.4chan.org/his/thread/2148969/

The new Raid has begun. Bash those Fashs comrades!!! boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/104746299

You're reaching shitposting levels that shouldn't be allowed, even on Holla Forums, tbh.

These are counterproductive tbqhf and just lead to massive shitposting and sperging out, the proper approach is to ruthlessly exploit inconsistencies in their ideology while dropping subtle redpills to awaken class consiousness

This isn't anyone from Holla Forums. It's just some autistic Holla Forums person.

Mexicans who help white fascists are the biggest possible classcucks.

Wow Holla Forums is really tearing itself apart over this israel thing huh

What israel thing?

New UN resolution forbids settlements on the west bank
Bibi went apeshit, entire Trump team starts shilling hard for Israel, Holla Forums doesn't know wether to like trump or not anymore

Trump has never, in his entire life, not been pro-Israel. What the fuck did they expect?

are you asking me to explain Holla Forums's logic?
lmao

Trump is very pro-Israel, the most pro-Israel president in history actually and the Obama administration is mildly rebuking Israel for working against a 2 state solution before he leaves office.

Holla Forums isn't sure how to deal with this exactly, most of Holla Forumss userbase falls into one of the following categories

1. Israel is a right wing ethnonationalist state, is based, hates muslims, against immigration etc so pol supports Israel and has always supported Israel, we're just against "globalist jews" who want to subvert and weaken the west with multiculturalism and cultural marxism

2. Fuck Israel/the kikes, Trump is a jewish puppet

3. Trump is trying to trick Israel into thinking he supports them before he launches another holocaust

4. We never believed that Trump was anti-Israel/anti-Jew anyways, hes just better than Clinton

This has started a virtual civil war with lots of accusations of anyone from opposing factions being JIDF, leftypol, etc.

No, I just assumed they weren't totally deluded.
Next thing you'll tell me is that they'll be surprised when Trump starts doing kickbacks to all his rich buddies.

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connection error?

nm, I think it was my own connection

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/104799402

Are you dumb? M8, have you even set foot in a lecture on Economics in your life?

No, are you? How about you offer some insight instead of just insulting people without provocation.

And take off that flag while you're at it.

Guys it's really habbening, have a scroll through the threads it's amazing

We're being raided, lol.

They're so butthurt, lmao.

Here's a good one
boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/104835275

another good one
boards.4chan.org/r9k/thread/33729934

top fucking kek

I save time by simply having a script that notifies me when a thread on 4chan gets linked

It's fucking priceless. They're even manufacturing "evidence", themselves, trying to pin it on us. If we're so bad, why do you have to be underhanded & create "evidence"?

They're getting laughed at, all over both sites & many boards. It's hilarious.

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You should really learn to program, fam. It is pretty useful.

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More good ones:
boards.4chan.org/r9k/thread/33733215
boards.4chan.org/r9k/thread/33733546
boards.4chan.org/r9k/thread/33733732

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/104840402
boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/104833832
boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/104848616

boards.4chan.org/g/thread/58222436
boards.4chan.org/g/thread/58215865

boards.4chan.org/biz/thread/1689661
boards.4chan.org/biz/thread/1691527

boards.4chan.org/his/thread/2154332
boards.4chan.org/his/thread/2145975

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/104835275#p104849678
THEY ARE ON TO US!!1!
ACT NATURAL

Wew, the assblasted Holla Forumstard can barely keep up with our RED pills. Fully Automated Luxury Communism here we come. Here's a couple more.
boards.4chan.org/r9k/thread/33733215
boards.4chan.org/r9k/thread/33731098

Shit, wrong link on one of them. Here's some more
boards.4chan.org/k/thread/32468204
boards.4chan.org/k/thread/32471028
boards.4chan.org/k/thread/32472182

Ya gotta play it Cooooool

youtu.be/YSJMISy5UgY

Holla Forumsautist, I'm getting bored now so I'll spell it out for you. I didn't post in any of those threads, I just selected them semi-randomly from the catalog to waste your time and energy. Maybe in a while I'll set up a script to aggregate random 4chan links to raid, and then you'll have your hands full until you give up. Have fun clicking on street signs and indoor seating faggot.

boards.4chan.org/a/thread/151528181
boards.4chan.org/a/thread/151559915
boards.4chan.org/v/thread/362175752
boards.4chan.org/vg/thread/164019747

We have work to do, comrades.

Actually, I only did two. The rest were by other Anons.

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/104840470
boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/104840470
boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/104840470

this one is the actual general thread lol.


Weird how you all posted exactly the same thing, huh.

I always post with the same filename but a different image each time because I have no interest in keeping all of the screencaps since there is already an image with ones from all three archive.is links.

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Holla Forums has blatantly lied over things they did or were on the past so many times is not even funny.

If they are already like this, how the fuck will they be on 2020? If you told me on 2009 that imageboards would be dominated by republican establishment shills I would never believe it.

wasn't that hard to believe

if you told me in a bar around year 2000 that web 1.0 would morph into a disgusting and fatuous tool for cyber-political warfare across the broad spectrum of society i'd chuck my drink at you

content creation did this, humans are too susceptible to memes influencing behavior and judgement.

Infographics were a mistake.

Don't worry. Bordigists haven't seized it yet but they're getting there.

boards.4chan.org/co/thread/88757059

boards.4chan.org/r9k/thread/33741620

We weaponizing NEETs ITT

What's this Comrade Jones thing from?

Please don't import self-hate and misery addiction here.

uh oh, they're getting 404ed.

this was the thread
desuarchive.org/r9k/thread/33741620/

Libertarians are trying to advertise on /r9k/ in this thread:
boards.4chan.org/r9k/thread/33745277
wut? Did Liberty make this?

wow. We're really getting BTFO in that thread. I've never had to argue against super-capitalism before. I'm literally shaking? Were we cucks all along for being commies?

fuck /liberty/

I love that supercapitalism pic

Try ultra-capitalism after you realise how far left it is on the ideology moebius

Latest bread. All leftists welcome, even anarcho-kiddies.
boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/104928818

kek american nazbol. Come back to europe, that land isn't yours.

I'll come back to Europe once they deal with the immigration problem. :^)

The description is literally socialism

boards.4chan.org/co/thread/88766815

THOSE MAILBOX-HEADS

That doesn't even make any sense.

Yes it does.

“If you took the most ardent revolutionary, vested him in absolute power, within a year he would be worse than the Tsar himself.”
Bakunin

That's Marxism in a nutshell

Sealab was off the air before most of the posters on Holla Forums were even alive.

How so? That's a contradictory statement & without elaboration. Never mind the fact that many of the wealthiest families have held onto this power for centuries.
See: tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13545719508454905

bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-08-23/how-to-stay-rich-in-europe-inherit-money-for-700-years

You're also making a human nature argument. I can't think of anything close to a global wealth redistribution in history to look at that could lend any credence to your statement of "inevitability".

Che Guevara is a good example of a revolutionary that had power, yet continued to fight for the cause. There are plenty. You can't just make such a blanket statement, then follow it up with another, to prove your point. Put forth an argument to show this.

And I may have misread this, but how is the creation of oppressive oligarchies in any way Marxism's fault?

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boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/104996260

So did you just post this to Holla Forums, then here, then male a non-argument, get triggered when called on your bullshit so you posted this pic? >>1191374

lmao

heh

make*

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/105039190

Glad to see this is still going. As Holla Forums continues aligning toward republican establishment I think leftism as the contrarian ideology will only become more liked on the site.

Actually started browsing /jp/, /a/, and /agdg/ on 4chan again. Really hate they still don't have visible sage, especially on /jp/.

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/105210855

we Aare not mad about it
but if you want to get less hate try to be less autistic with your posts and especialy your arguments

When do you think we'll get brigaded again?

My guess is in a few weeks if we keep this shit up.

I just don't want the two step captcha coming back.

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/105274547

Good thread tbh

yeah it'll probably happen soon

oh well

Mexican poster is not ours, fyi. He's your fellow Holla Forums poster. The spamming autists you can be sure are not ours.

I didn't know people used this term anywhere other than reddit, tbh.

But if some come here & like what they see, they'll stay. If they want to spam like idiots they'll just get banned until they learn to chill out & talk politics. It was annoying at first, but moderation here has been pretty quick to respond & on top of it, so those who want to actually talk politics are welcome. If they want to be retards, they'll just get shamed for it, then sperg out & earn a ban. Win/win for us, I think.

How does it feel knowing all your raid threads get discredited and shitposted on every single day?

Raided*

my b

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/105287065

Credit to whoever picked Tito

Weak bait. Come on, you can do better, I believe in you.

lmao

It gets demoralizing and the blowback of shitpost threads that fill up the board make me realize it's a shitty plan. That and they know that .pl is a decoy now.

This

Latest bread. As a nazbol. I'm the perfect subversive to make Holla Forums socialist.
boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/105321557

Socialism/Marxism Generals are a bad idea. People are immediately turned off because they've got preconceptions of what "Socialism" is in their minds already. The threads devolve into shitposting.

We should instead be starting, and contributing to existing, threads that are more subtly voicing leftist ideas and that will be full of people more receptive to class conscious explanations. e.g. threads about nationalization of industry, threads about corruption in the elite class, threads about joblessness or poverty, threads that demonstrate a form of class consciousness.

The time for Generals will come, but we ain't there yet.

This may be the worst false flag from Holla Forums I've seen yet.

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/105338090

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boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/105335417

This thread is a prime example. But we shouldn't really be linking them here anymore either. Just find 'em in your own time and contribute. Also, be subtle.

That's just 4chan in general. The place has been getting fucked by liberals since 2008. The exodus to Holla Forums left an even bigger gap for them to take over than before.

I think spreading class hatred on /r9k/ could be a winning strategy. I'm seeing more and more posts hating on the rich these days and even people discussing capitalism and the bourgeoisie. In the same way that Holla Forums influenced /r9k/, perhaps we could influence /r9k/ (a more receptive and vulnerable target) and then allow crossposters to spread the contagion.

boards.4chan.org/r9k/thread/33838129

Is the dialectic in motion comrades?

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These threads seem to be going differently now. Not so much crying about da juice and more bickering over race

Identity politics is on all sides. When we say we're anti-SJW, that applies to the Right as well.

trumptards are nothing else but a white identity movement

also i hate the term sjw its so cringe inducing

Just was on Holla Forums, minding my own business then I find this thread

boards.4chan.org/v/thread/362655827#p362655827

Holla Forums is reaching autism levels where no spergs have gone before.

Seems legit

lmao

Thread 404'd, though

I have the feeling that whoever did this is legit underage.

Who or what is modcat and what did Holla Forums do?

Long-time /a/ mod that fit canned recently for deleting pol shit threads made expressly for the purposes of finding undesirables in unsanctioned living or gathering conditions and calling the cops on them

It was pure autism

Holla Forums is actually waging war with half of 4chan.

You mean the firemen bullshit?

Yeah, that gay safety squad shit

Holla Forums is that fucking schizophrenic.

kek.

no self-awareness tbh

Wow this thread is cringe

I'm pretty sure the irony is lost to the person who made that image.

They actually believe they're not the ones occupying.

To the nazi numale cucks, any appeal to morality is virtue signaling.
It's ok to genocide 6 gorillion niggers because to claim otherwise is dishonest SJW virtue signaling.

notice the following:

They allude that you can spot newfags by the fact that they avoid Holla Forums which is the essence of chan culture.

Yet they don't list Holla Forums as an ally. Holla Forums is the most or the second most (dunno if them or Holla Forums) active board on all of 4chan, yet somehow they avoid mentioning them on any side, only when it is convenient.

boards.4chan.org/r9k/thread/33856327
boards.4chan.org/r9k/thread/33858562
boards.4chan.org/r9k/thread/33858193

Spread class consciousness.

No.
I don't want NEETs, who refuse to work on their situation and who are literally addicted to misery and want to spread it to others to clog up our board.

They won't come here.
Having a 24 hour duty NEET army to shitpost about capitalism everywhere would be a good thing.

Clearly, you have no idea what it's like to be in their place.

Not with that shitty mentality.

Like it or not, a strong presence online is a good thing, in whatever form.

I browse Holla Forums and /sp/, they're not that right wing. Loads of lefties

Every Holla Forumsyp got bullied in school for a reason

we need to stop acting like we won anything, our threads replies are pretty much all just saying we're BTFO even though they didnt post an argument. everytime that happens more people join THEIR cause.
i will never understand why we still act ACT like we're not trying to subvert them holy shit.


newfag


i wonder why theyre winning

I wish /g/ was left, there aren't good boards for tech/programming that aren't always half-full with people whining about "poo in loo" or "muh diversity!" or the fact that Mozilla used an image of a half-black child in a fucking advertisement.

Don't bring Marvel and DC into this

how can they not see what they are

I'm glad they're still bitching that they couldn't infiltrate my favorite board.

I like how Holla Forums is the natural filter for anons
its like exposing your mind to pure unfiltered chaos/shitposting
and if you survive you settle down and pick a side

Translation? Like poor/homeless or protesters?

more like squatters living in large abandoned buildings and creating fire hazards
like living on the second floor, filling the first floor with flammable trash, having a massive rave party and 15 people dying in a fire because the trash caught fire and they'd put shit in front of the disused fire exits

good, good.

Speaking of Holla Forums
boards.4chan.org/b/thread/717565097

Just see that buttmad CTR shill throwing salt at anyone who opposes his narrative.

the fuck how is /his/ full of leftists?
you'd think it would be the opposite

You're still not fooling anyone, false-flagging retard.
Holla Forums is so transparent.

ahh CTR i made a shitty goodbye meme for them but it probably wouldnt be appreciated on here

I haven't gone there in months now, but when i went there, it had lots of leftists.
Or at least i want to believe that behind every "go back to Holla Forums" post is a leftist :D

What do you guys think about Holla Forums and Holla Forums?

Holla Forums is filled with normalfags with generic taste in films.

Holla Forums is Holla Forums with actresses and memes

Sure. There are a ton of capeshit threads there. What kinds of hreads do you guys think should be in a board like that?

Fuck off. You just said they're abandoned buildings. Is there some epidemic of homeless people burning down buildings or something? No.

For people who value muh freedums so much, you're downright retarded/hypocritical on anything that goes against your warped sense of morality.

Those people have it bad enough. Hilarious that you suddenly "care" for these people. You don't. You just want to feel special & take away something from others who can't even afford to feed themselves. The ultimate "cucks", calling the cops on people. If you ever go to jail, you will be a bitch from the go. They will smell it on you.

I'd say unlikely just as a history buff myself I'm also tired of full on stormtards only taking their history lessons from handbooks printed by the fucking Thule society
then theres always the autistic dutchman who thinks he's the descendant of Frisian ayylmaos and everyone non dutch/belgian/zeeland is a subhuman
still mongols are based af, huge Chinggis fan here
youtube.com/watch?v=p_5yt5IX38I

PM me

Also
Someone's angry they weren't invited :^)

im not really an expert on the subject since i didnt really care about it
but im guessing disused would be a better term?
like owned by someone but not currently in use
Im not arguing ideology here just trying to clarify it for that user
I think the story was some right wing lads were having a giggle reporting squatters to the fire department because they'd squat in the disused/abandoned buildings and the trash would pile up and create a fire hazard
and they only became aware of it because such a squat caught fire and some people most likely leftist/anarchists died in the fire
so in a way its like the idea was to spoil some fun for leftists/anarchists by reporting them to the fire department so the police would remove them and there'd be less chance of the squatters dying horribly in a fire
but I wouldnt know i think it happened in america and im not american so i wasnt interested


I dont think thats possible on here is it?

Last time I was /g/, they were pretty open and admitting of being racist when someone kept posting pictures of cute black women.
It was really funny, the racists were getting a triggered as hell.

For not caring you sure do have some very specific & detailed feelings on the matter.

What a bunch of fucking pussies. 4chan has really fallen.

& aren't you the user who said they hadn't been on Holla Forums for 2 years?

It was a jest.
I'd still would like to see it.

nope this is why this board needs ID's
they really arent :^)
well fucking duh
m00t sold it out for many shekels and now works at google indexing cuck porn
4chan will be tumblr 2.0 as soon a hiroyuki-m00t sells it to the highest 🍀🍀🍀bidder🍀🍀🍀


ill post it on Holla Forums you can check it out there, i dont wanna be banned from Holla Forums again

forgot to mention it'll have big CTR thumbnail easy to spot

Most of Holla Forums is pretty anti trump though.

and Holla Forums is pretty much 50/50 split.
The whole image is completely retarded.

Holla Forums is the funniest board on the site

never go on Holla Forums

/g/ is getting aware since Trump and the republicans are planning to corporatize the internet by killing net neutrality. They'll be lefties in no time.

/sp/ is clearly anti-Holla Forums and anti trump because he's a shill for Tom Brady and the Pats.

I don't know. Once i made a thread there about Pelechian(youtube.com/watch?v=u-v4kZPzZzY). It got lost into oblivion in less than 15 minutes.

what happened to the cyberpunkers on /g/?
I'm sure they would be anti-Trump from the start, but I haven't seen a Cyberpunk General in a long time.

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boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/105489455

No /sp/ is very much Holla Forums. Everywhere is posts filled with hate towards nigger athletes and how niggers are destroying sports.

It's just jelly over the fact that the crackers can't compete if you ask me.

God I wish that were me.

We should call them "The Triggered Triumvirate" for their constant autist rage against anything stepping out of the Holla Forums overton window.

They ask Holla Forums often to fuck off though. It's just neo-Holla Forums and their endless quest to be edgy, who parrots anything Holla Forums sezs. But neo-Holla Forums is also known for it's shit taste.

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bit unfair in my view
/r9k/ is just full of robots
Holla Forums is vidya it didnt get political until sjw's started subverting translations and pushing a liberal agenda
and Holla Forums? triggered?
disgusted is probably a better term
if theres a triggered element on Holla Forums its stormweenies, trs and every other group non-native to these tubes
I cant even consider true oldfags of the chans to not be jaded enough to feel nothing when confronted with most stimuli

(You)

Holla Forums is also to be known to be in a perpetual civil war with each other about anything. It did spawn /vg/ /vp/ and /vr/.
Only megalomaniac boards like Holla Forums would consider and attempt to colonise it. What they are actually doing is pissing in an ocean of piss.

well of course it is its vidya nerds arguing
everyones got their personal tastes and if theres one hobby thats bursting at the seams of autism its vidya
from what I've noticed from my long time on Holla Forums is there is no group or hierarchy or even a concerted effort
its pure chaos unified by mutual hatred
theres no colonisation just a shared hatred across the entire world for artificial social engineering
both Holla Forums and Holla Forums share the same opinion when a sjw alters the translation of a JRPG to make a character gay or push an agenda
Holla Forums because they hate the agenda and Holla Forums because its bastardizing the source material

How ironic.

oh c'mon noone likes social engineering save for sociology students

The irony being that Holla Forums is in full support of social engineering, just their own racist-colonist flavor of it.

How? im sure its all fantasy and only the stormweenies really believe it
everytime i see a 'ideal world' thread there it reeks of american autism

Really?
Maybe you don't know what social engineering is.
When an "SJW" (protip, only alt-right autists say this, it's obvious what you are and why you're here) points out that something is racist or sexist, it's social engineering.

But when a Holla Forums poster spouts "NIGGER!!!!!" and posts "memes" that proliferate harmful racial stereotypes and generally encourage others to join in their racist viewpoint, that's not a form of social engineering?

Come on Holla Forums, you should try harder.

Reality engineering is way more effective anyway

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nope its banter because people find it hilarious
noone finds protesting for transgenders to use the girls bathroom hilarious
you're actually defending the rotten fucking neoplasms that are responsible for the current downfall of the left?
Are you one of them yourself? trying to ingratiate yourself with an older crowd because you're a tolerance loving liberal?
whichever side wins this eventuality the SJW is either going in a gas chamber or a gulag for fucking certain

Trump is pretty much just a cheap knock-off compared to the true ideal leader.

This. I've said it before. These threads aren't going to convince a single person of anything except "'liberals' are cucks who get BTFO at every turn"
You're never going to change someone's mind by aggressively and directly challenging their interpretation. This isn't a math proof.
You need to inject leftist interpretations into threads where they're relevant, while avoiding words that are laden with biases. People unironically think Obama is a cultural Marxist socialist. "Marxist general" was doomed to fail from the start.

Go back to Holla Forums, kiddo.

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you rn
if you're not pro-social justice don't even call yourself a Leftist
if you're not a Leftist, get out

>>>Holla Forums

I'm sure they went to lainchan.

Not related to spreading agitprop, but this thread on Holla Forums may be of interest to some people:

boards.4chan.org/co/thread/88862222

It's a comic about Soviet projections of the year 2017.

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kek shouldn't you be happy that the USSR failed trot? After all Trot only contribution was the the killing of Makhnoists

Trotsky fervently advocated defending the USSR faggot.

fuck, i want to cry

i'd like to suggest a focus on 4chan's Holla Forums board. Holla Forums has a major and virtually unopposed presence there, and it's currently 4chan's strongest meme factory. it would be nice to see some attempt to counter Holla Forums's constant bullshit there

boards.4chan.org/tv/thread/78003667

Defend the legacy of Comrade Carpenter.

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Black athletes do get love on /sp/ and much more so for attractive female ones if you know what I mean. Most of the "hate" is tongue in cheek still, so it isn't that Holla Forums.

Damn, right in the feels.

How ironic that the minute I stepped into this board and was genuinely interested in leftism I was met with threads that have been bump-locked for no clear reason, posts with too many replies that are eventually deleted (just like Holla Forums. Funny) and shitty, dismissive posts like "fuck off brocialist" to innocent threads.
I fear you have too many problems on your own board before you can conquer others. Also the myriads of "-ism"s on this board show no sign of solidarity. This thread just tells me the only thing keeping you guys together is that fact that you're not on 4/pol/.


I'm a /mu/ regular.
It's not a "leftist bastion". The "leftists" on the board are pitchfork-worshipping liberal progressives that voted Hillary. They would hate and dismiss you too.
The rest of the board doesn't give a shit about politics.

You don't belong here either, SocJus libshit.

Oh no, not bump locking. Fucking fascist mods

boards.4chan.org/tv/thread/78010970

Your sarcasm makes you look like an idiot.
Anyway, yes. Threads forced to sink to the bottom and die even if interest is garnered in it and anons that have just visited the board do not notice it at first or at all. And no clear reason is even given.
Like here 8ch.net/leftypol/res/1198822.html
And here 8ch.net/leftypol/res/1204599.html#1204696

No one is "conquering" boards.
Its just a meme or rampant anfem shitposters that no one bans because our moderation is heavily lax.
Can't be helped, there are a lot of socialist thought out there, not everyone agrees.

Those threads are kind of shit anyways and we have had better on those topics, but that last one shouldn't have been bumped locked.

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/105854131

Let's infiltrate some fashies.

/mu/ has the most leftist on 4chan, that's not saying much.

We have our own board and you've yours.
Holla Forums knows you're trying to convert us and that alone already made your efforts sisyphean.

You stay in your corner and we stay in ours.

They're defending Pinochet.

boards.4chan.org/r9k/thread/33944915

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/105978180

look leftypol, a thread for you!
boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/106017163

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/106019538

boards.4chan.org/tg/thread/51067235

Of course not, just argue "that was not REAL communism" followed by "REAL communism has never been tried", "Venexuela is not a REAL socialist society" and end the thread with "we will seize the means of production".

You will win EVERY time. Guaranteed, comrade.

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You're bait couldn't be any more apparent. Thanks for the traffic, though.

Oh dear

More or less what the red army must have experienced in Berlin.

fascists seem to be very keen on animal imagery I've noticed

wolves, dragons, eagles, foxes, lions etc.

I was thinking: maybe it would be a good idea to divide and conquer Holla Forums.

For example, when they shitpost in our threads, we could just reply to them pretending to be one of them, but with different ideologies.

For example, someone states that he's a nationalist, we reply defending capitalism against nationalism.
Someone states he's a capitalist, we point out capitalism's destruction of national identity.
Someone is openly anti-Semitic, we call him Ahmed.
Someone is openly anti-Islamic, we call him Shlomo.

You know where this is headed.

We need to keep dividing Holla Forums onto millions of various little right-wing ideologies until the most popular ideologies on it are all left wing.

We start with our threads, and when the tampering with our threads decreases, we can discuss moving on to Nazi or fascist threads with the same tactics, cosplaying as capitalists who give them shit for ruining Europe with WW2 etc etc.

What do you think? How realistic is this and how much time would it take?

good idea, I'll pretend to be a Holla Forumsposter when I see Holla Forumsacks here

Not here, on Holla Forums. Also, don't forget to be subtly illogical while you shitpost, but perfectly logical when replying to them, so it would seem to newfags like the leftist is the more logical one in the debate, thus swaying them to our side.

Unfortunately, it's not pretty, but these were the tactics Stormfags used to get Holla Forums on their side. The only way to beat them is to give them a taste of their own medicine.

They like to make arguments to nature, so much like furries they only use the images of animals they find attractive.

appeal to nature is the key aspect of every right wing ideology, even though they fail to realize that it was our UNITY, not our divisions that led to the evolution of the human mind.
we beat all other creatures by being the many where they were the few.
division and infighting led to the evolution of the chimpanzee mind. and ironically, they invoke evolution while acting like chimps, wanting to fight everyone they don't like.

You guys are stuid a fuck, do you even realize you arguiuing with yourselves? Most of Holla Forums moved to other chans on the past few days when the TRS shit started. Hell, many left when jim took over the site. "Holla Forums" is literaly just leftisies pretending to be nazis shittalking eachother.

you have two options:

U missed ponies

You guys are gay. Please stop with the porn

t.Holla Forums

Not 4/pol/ but I found this and its replies: news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13355864

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>>>Holla Forums11666330
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BACKUP NEEDED
boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/106356517
boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/106356517
boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/106356517
BACKUP NEEDED

No more invasion.

Has flags gone too far ?

see

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/106457944

Someone needs to make a corrected version of this image.

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Anyone have the "baltics were more dis-proportionally represented than jews in the CPSU" copypasta?

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/106757677

Bump

I tried arguing in there

got swamped by about 10 different posters and couldn't reply to all of them so apparently i was btfo

There is absolutely no use arguing against Holla Forums. They have zero interest in rational discourse, even though they love appealing to "logic".

They HATE the Left at the deepest gut level; you'll never convince them.

The only solution is to completely ignore them.

but that just lets them fester

i kinda agree though, it gets tiring

Last time I got involved in those "raids" I had a decent discussion with a guy. Pointed out somewhat rationally that the perception of us raiding them just aggrevated them, it does nothing.

I kind of agree with them, bum-rushing them like that just turns things into a pissing contest. We'd be better off decentralizing raids, having posters infilitrate and actually start discussions with people instead of flaming en mass.

We'll always hate you. The more you try, the more we resent you.

:P