Bitcoin price is now $11000

Chinese are looking for something in which to stash their money since China started limiting their opportunities to buy property in the US and Canada.

hedgies haven't even begun to take up positions in BTC. What are you going to do, keep your assets in judenland funbux? The USD is finally collapsing into its own footprint at free-fall speeds.

Oh, you can’t mine anymore? And when you could mine, you could get entire bitcoins and not just ten millionth fractions? Fuck, I should have done it. I had the hardware for it at the time; I just didn’t understand the concept. Ah, well; now I don’t have to worry about being in deep with kikery.

I have not nor will I ever own a bitcoin.

It's fucking trash and anyone with a brain knows it. You faggots are just riding the lightning.

Yeah but they're mostly using gold still, or foreign currency.

When it was cheap and easy I did it, but came up dry after a few days so I stopped. It was really hurting my computer too, the thing was hotter than fuck.

It's a scam anyway unless you were lucky or got into it literally when it was brand new.

There's a discussion on >>>/biz/2237
Most of bitcoin's price is not based on actual US Dollars being traded and instead US Dollar Tether (USDT). USDT is digital token that promises for each issuance there's a dollar in a bank account to back it up; however the Tether company has no contractual obligation to redeem USDT 1:1 to the US Dollar.
Lately it's been accused to issuing USDT without respect to a held amount of US Dollars hence why their transparency page was taken down for a few hours.

Its not about bitcoin, its about the technology behind it. Blockchain will take over, maybie not bitcoin, but blockchain will, invest in the revolution of trust.

Bitcoin is only popular bitcause people buy into the Name bitcoin, do some research, and buy stuff that actually does usuefull stuff with blockchain technology, or even blockchain 2.0; The tangle.

I hope you're not trying to shill iota.
>>>/biz/2227
>>>/biz/2261
>>>/biz/2295

Jesus, so it's a like a commodity exchange where the dollar is the commodity and the Bitcoin is the fixed purchase unit.

That's hilarious, are there really people or exchanges doing this?

I will never invest in anything tech. I'm old enough to know that if you can't hold it, you don't own it.

This shit is a Jews wet dream.

anything you say is tainted user

Exchanges use USDT to provide a $, or at least an idea of one, market without going through regulations. You definitely see other big exchanges other than Tether/Bitfinex using USDT.
coinmarketcap.com/currencies/tether/#markets

The valuation is based on mathematical rarity/scarcity

Fuck kikecoin. New world order shit created by the DoD.

The kikes are the ones who bought a shit ton of it and are currently artificially rising the price. They will sell everything at peak 2018 and then bet against it, then they will stimulate panic among normies claiming the bubble has burst and the price will drop hardcore. The only ever currency that i nearly immune against manipulation by kikes is what mentioned. A labour based currency is the kikes eternal enemy because kikes don't do labour.

Now the shills are promoting bitcoin. Not a good omen. Futures contracts are being introduced for bitcoin in 1-2 weeks. The BTC market is going to be a lot easier controlled soon. Also notice BTC got popular just as people were starting to cash out and buy up gold and silver?

The valuation is based on how much judenland funbux are sloshing around the economic system, desperate to find a new home. Prices are a trailing indicator and hyperinflation is a monetary phenomenon - when the velocity of money starts picking up, which it inevitably must, all this excess liquidity is going to spill out into the rest of the economy and destroy the ability of the market to price goods and services. CNN is fake news; US dollars are fake money.

Couldn't possibly agree more

I was talking about IOTA, but didnt mention IOTA because I talk generally about the technology behind it, and IOTA is just the only one that uses Tangle, if i am not wrong.

Like that papermoney?

How would Monero and Zcash be a jew dream?

Whatever you invest in, never buy the top, or because you read on the news about it.

it will crash soon, buy when it crashes because it will rise again, buy some now too, even if it's just 100 dollars and then it crashes just sit on it and buy another 50 dollars
I have always critiqued it but you can use it to buy gold and silver so prior to a CME you should be good, also dont invest in anything unless you have a 3 month food supply 2 weapons and ammo

You can physically hold your bitcoins on an usb stick. The whole blockchain for that matter…

Funny how every technology gets scooped up by the zog but BTC is allowed to "overthrow teh banking system" without even being touched. There was a bitcoin in the late 90's that went under due to (((massive international pressure))) but this time its different!

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that's quite rich actually

pump and dump for (((them)))

they can do it over and over

Who says I'm still in paper?

Remember e-gold?

Then tell me what it is, if you arent full of shit.
What is liquid enough and physically avaiable that will allow me to buy milk in a shop in couple years that will also gain in value at the same time.

Checked
Dubs don't lie

yah no. just like every currency before it. there is a couple of jews with tons of bitcoins. you fools giving them value has made them very, very, rich.

You are here.

the storm is coming

It's here
The outer bands of shit and piss and such have hit

Maybe I'm just economically illiterate, but the bitcoin is essentially a fiat currency that is backed by a fiat currency. Bitcoin rising in value would not depreciate the value of American dollars, since bitcoin it so hard to generate. The market isn't being flooded with it. If anything, now that MORE people are getting into mining it, it's being distributed more thinly.

As I understand it, the only way for what you're talking about to happen would be for use of blockchain exploding past the amount relative to people mining. More blockchain + less miners = higher contribution per miner = more availability of bitcoin = lower value of bitcoin. As it stands, it's low blockchain + high miners = low contribution per miner = low bitcoin availability = higher value. Unless I'm completely misunderstanding it.

Germany was a jewish pump and dump

Yah
The jüdocaust never happened but it sure fucking SHOULD happen

What is the value based on?

Demand.

Checked
And mathematical rarity
And as a payoff for mining i.e. Work

Coinbase recently had their busiest week ever in terms of new accounts opening - BTC is finally reaching the mainstream, and hedge funds are scrambling because they're getting left behind by Joe Sixpack of all people. Mining matters less, the miners make money by running the network, and the margins on that are probably pretty thin.

I wouldn't agree to that. That's due to hyperinflation where the currency was devalued since the money was printed to the point of worthlessness.

In contrast, buttcoins have a limited amount in total. The more people using buttcoins means that buttcoins going up and up and up in price. The difference is that there is only a limited amount of buttcoins hence scarcity, while there was just a total lack of scarcity of money for the german reichsmarks because they just churned out so many to pay off debts.

However, I think that this is all just a speculative bubble. I bet that this will likely burst. The problem with buttcoins is that one of the factors that determines the value of a currency depends on it's ability to be circulated. You know what's completely worthless? Money that you can't spend anywhere. And I have never seen a single brick and mortar store, including grocery stores, that accept buttcoins in my life.

No major online retailer accepts buttcoins, either. The currency itself is too unstable. Why would anyone accept a currency that is completely unpredictable? The massive upsurge of buttcoins is more akin to a stock that is rapidly increasing in value than a form of currency. This is why retailers don't accept payments in the form of stocks and bonds.

If I had buttcoins I'd fucking sell a good amount of them before the bubble bursts. Maybe keep a minority of them in case the value keeps rising.

source for the pics:
charts.bitcoin.com/chart/price

It isn't though. I suggest you read the writings of Satoshi Nakamoto and the white paper. He was trying to create a ledger that could not be forged or altered, to remove the ability to defraud from the economic system. The token is abstract in value and exists solely to tally the ledger with transactions.

at least you didn't buy the pizza for 10,000 BTC

Almost as if a certain group of people stole someone elses idea…

both of you are brainlet fucks. lurk 5 years before posting. he's not saying BTC is inflated. he's showing how inflayed USD is.

what does it mean to say my BTC is worth 10,000,000 USD when USD is worth nothing??? it means about the same as pic related

It's a crack-up boom.The issue is US corporations are already tremendously overvalued; bonds and treasuries lol; but there's still a ton of liqudity in the system and it has nowhere else to go. Buttcoins are still only what a quarter of a trillion dollar market? Half? A trillion dollars is chicken feed these days, banks hand out trillion dollar sign-up bonuses along with a Spiderman towel. This market has a long way to run and the jews at the Fed are still issuing debt like mad. I don't know exactly how things are going to play out, nobody really knows the future, but I'm pretty confident the US dollar is fucked and being in literally anything else is a good choice right now.

Hah, it's even worse than that. BTC is worth "nothing." The US dollar is worth negative two quadrillion of itself when you add up all the unfunded liabilities - starts to make nothing look pretty fucking good in comparison.

This is true. Bitcoins price will drop back to 3-5 k at some point. Sell high friends. At first sign of drastic drop… Sell it all.

This is simply not true.

It's the other way around. That's inflation, where the value of the Mark was falling. With Bitcoin, the value is rising. The charts are both in the same direction because the axis is inverted. That chart shows the number of paper marks required to buy a unit value (gold), the bitcoin price chart shows how many unit values (dollars) you can buy with one bitcoin.

Love seeing these threads, instills faith in myself that I am absolutely smarter than the average bear and seeing threads like this in this place of politics only furthers my disdain for uneducated fools.
No matter what, no matter how hard you shill for crypto's and no matter how high it goes up, I will never invest in a nothingburger.
1. Anonymous;
2. Finite
3. Decentralised
4. Not inflationary
5. Its not about all of that, its the fact that it fights against the economic sector and jewish banking cartels, and destabilisers the hold the jews have over the money supply.
You cannot deny that Cryptos are inextricably linked to electricity. Despite the copious amount it uses and is using up of the world for a quick buck, you are basing a potential world economy on a promise, a promise that the power will never go out. Ever heard of CME's? Sun spots and sun flares? Do you really think the infrastructure of yesteryear can withstand anything AND everything?
The other yuge argumentative point I will make, in what fucking world do you pro CC shills think YOU know anything pertaining to how civilisation will crumble? Why do you think that destabilizing the banking sector will have no knock on effect on everything else? You seem to think it will go
Economic collapse
Replace by btc
Happy days everyone wins gas kikes race war now
What if the kikes drop the hydrogen on every other nation state? Emp takes out backup servers, oops powers out no more bitcoins?
You never know whats install and anyone who (((predicts))) or thinks they fucking know anything is fucking wrong, stack silver for gods sake, just enough for when shit actually hits the fan you have something of intrinsic value to trade for something else, otherwise you will be the fat fedora wearing douchebag in the TEOTWAKI scenario trying to trade a usb with 1000 bitcoins for a loaf of bread. Be smart, diversify into precious metals.
No, that piece of shit debt and death paradigm loving jewish banking fuck does not speak on behalf of the silver stacking community, same argument would be everyone on Holla Forums is like alex jones … Just … No.

youtube.com/watch?v=MW5aDmQLqVY

how much demand will there be for gold when people are starving and just trying to survive? Survival will be bought with brass and lead when it all comes crashing down

monetary inflation is what's driving up the price

This is how I know the bull market hasn't even started.

Never said gold fuck head. And what you really think someone wouldnt trade something for silver coins? I have seeds in my freezer, I have a vegie garden I am growing my own food in right now AND i have silver stacked? My argument was never that in a TEOTWAKI environment survival skills can be replaced by copious amounts of silver, Im saying you dont know when shit will hit the fan and why invest in digital bullshit now when at anypoint we could be catapulted back 200 years + and you gonna be the faggot holding bitcoins.

If US dollars, which are the world's reserve currency, are fake money, then DEFINITELY a "currency" that I can't actually use to buy things irl or on major online retailers is going to be even more fake. It's basically a kind of stock rather than real money.

Money only has the value that people put in it. This is why Hitler was smart to back the Reichsmark with the value of real labor rather than jewish financial tricks. Cut the heebs clean off the control of the money.

Pic related this is the total dollar value estimation of the buttcoin market. It's about $194 billion.

This is a very high price tag for something that can't actually buy anything for you if the SHTF. It's a wild change in the value of something that is too unstable to be relied upon as a real form of currency. Btw, the whole stock market has probably been a massive bubble for a while. Which is why buttcoins are overrated, as they will do nothing if the stock market crashes like it probably will, assuming that they aren't the first to go.

If shit really goes downhill like it quite possibly will, then what will you do if the currency is all digital? What if Best Korea finds a way to detonate a nuke over the atmosphere of the US? please for the love of god nuke san fransisco or hollywood EMP would royally fuck shit up. It would also render your currency worthless.

You know that there is actually a form of currency that is totally anonymous and considerably more untraceable. It's called cash. Cold, hard cash can't easily be tracked. Also, get into bartering things with people irl. If you don't have a group set up irl for when the SHTF then you have more things to worry about than buttcoins.

I like how you think, except you shouldn't spend money on gold for when the shit hits the fan, you should spend it on guns and bullets. You can take gold from people if you have guns and bullets if you really want gold if SHTF.

bitcoin already up $1000 from yesterday ($12k), it's happening my lads

Well, I am still mostly in silver. Hoard silver and trade cryptos, but staying out of cryptos entirely is a big mistake. You need income before TEOTWAWKI, and even in such places as venezuela and iraq, active war zones, they usually get several hours of electricity a day which is all you need to power your phone and use it to make crypto transactions with vendors.

silver and gold > buttcoins for TEOTWAWKI

but seriously, stock up on munitions do so legally also, get stuff to light fires with, such as matches and bic lighters

Why do you all Imply I said gold? Stack silver for christs sake.
And you seem to assume Im not prepared, I have my safe buried 6 ft down in my backyard concreted in and accesible, I own 3 firearms and have enough bullets to take down an airliner to boot. You are mistaking my argument for a be all and end all, you need seeds for food you need food so seeds can grow you need firearms and knoves and camping gear and everything else but you also need something of value to trade for the things you didnt think of. Silver is beautiful to behold, i would trade anything I have in surplus for an ounce. But you fucks all demand we invest in bitcoin. And dont think about the same arguments you throw at silver stackers back onto you buying up digital illusions of wealth.

The price is going up because people are interested in bitcoin. There hasn't been anywhere near enough inflation in the US dollar in the past few months for the price to go up as much as it has.

Part of the increase was probably because people were trying to game the bitcoin gold hardfork and double their bitcoins. But that happened over a month ago, and the price has doubled since then. If the increase had been entirely due to the hardfork, one would expect the price to crash immediately afterwards. Instead, value has not only not crashed, it has increased, and increased at an extremely rapid pace. So the increase in value is probably due to more people buying.

the reich would have created their own reichcoin cryptocurrency accepted at all of their local businesses

lol I'm not shilling for buttcoins I was explaining why people shouldn't invest in them, which is why I keep calling them buttcoins instead of bitcoin

i hit up btc faucets and convert them to dogecoin. I have few k so far. I don't expect to go to the moon or anything I just like to look at them. But who knows next year is year of the dog…

As long as people have something as basic as electricity it will be worth it to maintain a global electronic transaction network. There has been global trade and global payment systems and global inventory tracking since the earliest recorded history, and to do so instantly and trustlessly will still be a very important market to serve in international settlement even in a highly uncertain future.

Ok but why did you scapegoat not buying precious metals over having guns and stealing wealth from others like the nigger you are? I intend to create my own functional society like the good aryan european descendant I am. Not rob my fellow man because I wasnt smart enough.

Nonwhites and jews have gold, not just whites. You aren't robbing people if you take gold from their corpses since they aren't people. And get real, the SHTF isn't going to be a utopia where you can just have everything be all perfectly just and hunkey-dory

It doesnt help that once BTC takes a couple grand nose dive it always bounces back up giving the illusion that it can never go down for long. Its also very odd the price is increasing around christmas time when people should be spending that money elsewhere. Either the market is bs or mass amounts of people are gambling their holiday money.

EMP would royally fuck the system we have in place now anyway, most of the money used now is not physical cash, its credit, although I do agree with precious metals are a great means of holding on to wealth when the system starts back up, you should invest primarily in becoming as self-sufficient as possible, follow what that post has said re gardening and saving heriloom seeds, and guns and ammo, and ignore my sperging-out on him about gold

Until the banking kabaal crack it and deem you all terrorism financiers and your behaviour of carelessly destabilizing there system as a crime punishable by law. Id rather hold silver and patiently prepare for the worst case scenario, worst comes to worst I dont want to live in this society anyway, and i dont see it as salvageable, so I intend to create my own self sufficient society with tangible silver currency and a hard working white populace. Your path has way too many factors and points of failure.

was meant for but I'm a huge faggot

Yet you think when shtf you will get by with just guns? Go fuck a donkey you retard. As important as owning seeds and guns and camping gear is as important as it is to have real tangible wealth. Do you really think anyone else stacks physical silver like preppers? I laugh at your pathetic logic.

I'm going to kill myself now.

I run a porn site and I've accepted Bitcoin as payment since 2014 and people actually send it.
I've paid for domains with it and goods online that have been mailed to me.
This is a digital age, I don't care that the Walmart won't take it because I don't shop there anyway.

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>>>/auschwitz/

Thank you for the vote of confidence. I just hate how this movement was shanghaied by the crypto world, and no one seems to think outside of "take down the banks with bitcoin" as if they can forsee how the collapse will go and how the dominoes are lined up. By all means make money off of bitcoin but do not fuck with your future by not buying heirloom seeds and guns and learning to grow veggies, fuck I own a 3000 litre water tank that I drink from and have figured out how to purify without chemicals. Life could be so sweet, but instead we are in this fucked system people think cryptos can bring bank from the brink of destruction? And then think ill on anyone who is trying to shore up their livelihood with physical silver or gold.

bitcoin still works after the internet goes down

While the blockchain will seemingly come to a halt, miners will still be able to mine the cryptocurrency. Let us assume that everybody keeps mining as usual even though connection is lost, mining farms would move onto LAN networks and continue the search for blocks. Since miners won’t be able to pool their resources together in order to mine as a team, they would mine solo. However, Bitcoin’s difficulty is not going to change instantly, and due to the inability to pool resources it would take much longer than 10 minutes to find a block.

Looking at Bitcoin’s hash rate distribution, AntPool and F2Pool both own roughly 16% of the global hash power, these are the two biggest players in the bitcoin mining world. As a result, these two entities are most likely to find blocks before any other mining pool. Since the internet would be offline there would be no way of communicating with other pools, as a result each operation would mine on its own chain, effectively forking the blockchain. Each miner would continue to append blocks to the chain as fast as possible until the internet comes back on, at that moment it will yutn into a race between AntPool and F2Pool.

When wireless connectivity resumes, due to the Bitcoin hard fork, the consensus protocol that is part of Bitcoin will take effect. It will look at both chains and see that they have the same merkle hash (origin), as a result the blockchain would converge to the longer of the two chains. Unfortunately the transactions on the old chain would be lost, but miners would still be able to re-verify those transactions on the new blockchain. It would definitely take a team effort between the different mining pools but Bitcoin would return to normal.

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As a Bitcoin user, you wouldn’t be able to move your bitcoins unless you had communications with the miners. Even if you did sign a transaction you would have to find a way to broadcast it to them. If the internet was shutoff for a few days or weeks, miners could potentially develop a radio frequency communication channel, or even take transactions by mail. You could mail your signed transaction to the miner, with the address of the recipient, then the miner would verify the transaction and send a confirmation mail to you and the receiver. As inefficient as that sounds, it would still be a way to transact Bitcoins without the use of the Internet.

Problem is now you can't even buy bitcoin reasonably anymore. I've been trying for weeks and these trading sites keep cockblocking me at every turn. I tried a phone app but it eventually shut me out and constantly asks to verify with no customer support. I've tried another place but it only accepts money via wire transfer.

Reason I don't believe in bitcoins is the jews would rather end the world than lose their wealth and power to a meme currency they can't control.

Its not going to happen. They'll ignite WW3 and engulf the world in nukes that takes the world back to stone age before bitcoin replaces cash money.

Adolfcoin will save the White race with its innovative Führerprocess. Too many speculators are pumping money into Bitcoin/altcoins and its shitty dev teams when crypto is barely even usable as cash. Removing speculators from the equation is the only way to save cryptocurrency.

adolfcoin.camp/

MAKE CRYPTO GREAT AGAIN!

That's still a win condition though. That would make the pittance you lose in BTC worth it for the generations of white children who will survive the bottleneck and prosper.

M8, this meme coin is going into full control of kike hands. They will simply buy most of it up. This is assuming they aren't in control of the majority of it already. Who handles the chinks who own all this crapcoin? Really, there it already is. No currency will beat a Jew. The Jew is simply going to come into possession of it all. Fuhrer already got it right with the Reichsmark. I know Fuhrer got it right because the Jew started a World War over Reichsmark.

There is mathematical proof, look on arxive.

LocalBitcoins cash in mail money order

I don't use cryptocurrency though.

Get the fuck out, degenerate

They can't do that dipshit, this comment shows you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, the vast majority of bitcoin has laregely remained in the same hands since 2013

=THE KIKES DON'T OWN BITCOIN=

In whose hands does most of the Bitcoin lay, user? Enlighten me.

Why would I buy items with a currency that is gaining value so quickly?

Okay, I can get behind this.

The people who bought it and mined it during 2010-2012

If the jews where into bitcoin they wouldnt have come up with coins such as Zcash and Golem, no I am not kidding you, dont believe the assholes ITT that are railing against bitcoin, this is one thing the libertarians have gotten right.

You are right and wrong>>11002483

Zcash and Golem are literally jew cryptocoins

The FBUI auctioned off these coins years ago dumbass

Any smaller coins which people see promise in? I've got a stake in Bitcoin since it's pretty guaranteed to rise, but what about some to invest smaller amounts in to risk a larger profit?

I'm in Stratis right now. I've been hodling for months and I've made money in USD terms but lost satoshi. Still, I got in pretty far down, I think my satoshi cost average is around 90k and things are starting to look up.

Would you recommend I invest?

Missile Command atari cartridge art!

This, and factor its a pyramid scam, it's already impossible to cash out, so cash out when it seems like the pyramid is going to collapse, then you really really won't be able to.

Never invest money youre not prepared to lose, I bought 3 Litecoin, and own but 1 Bitcoin, don't buy ETH. And make sure if you invest in anything, that the technology is solid and has an intelligent and active group of people behind the project,.

I recommend you don't take financial advice from idiots on imageboards desu. I'm still hodling.

Oh naturally, I know it's not guaranteed profit or anything, I'm just trying to look at all the possibilities. One of my friends went into Iota but it doesn't look like there's much profit capability off that since transferring that into profit is difficult as no one is buying it.

Don't bully me

Word, I bought into ark, I'm part of the biz_classic delegate, it's run by two very wonderful guys. I don't hold bitcoin, I'm an Arkie.

cryptobobby.com/my-portfolio/

Found this youtube guy's portfolio. Never heard of some of the coins he has.

It's pretty obvious the return from bitcoin is massive. I don't know why you'd want a different thing to invest in if you're interested in crypto but whatever.

For anyone who is wanting to buy this stuff but are totally lost like me you can just download coinbase app. Made about $600 so far.

anyone elses absolutely shattered because of this? I didn't buy at 100 because i didn't have any money (believe me i wanted to). now that it's ballooned up to 3k, I didn't buy because I didn't want to buy on the way up. Now it's fucking 11k and I am feeling like I've pretty much been left behind for good, and missed my chance to get in on this completely. Feelin so sad right now.

In the end of BTC you will have made more then a lot of people by doing nothing.

IMO that means there's a fuckton more upside. Right now it's mainly hedge funds who are buying, a lot of people feel like you and won't even try to get in again until it's over $100k. But there will be a lot of 50-60% crashes between then and now. Buy now or forever be priced out unless there's another two week rout where you could have bought it cheaper and you'll hate yourself for that too. In other words don't cry about missed opportunities, just consider potential upside from here.

yeah people have been saying that since it increased to 60 dollars a btc. it's easy to be cynical about crypto, but even if you're right and everyone is just being stupid about it, then there will be an endless supply of 'idiots' who keep the value higher than you feel it should be, therefore worth something.

God damn it.

How could Bitcoin not be Kikecoin? lololol

amirite?

it feels so shitty. it's like when you're a kid and you imagine having a genie that can grant you wishes and you want a million dollars. I could be living that right now. I have a friend who hasn't worked a fucking day in his life who has over a million dollars in btc right now and he doesn't deserve a cent of it.

Neither do you. Anyway, don't be deceived, it's only dollars. We're not fighting for dollars we're fighting to secure the existence of our people and a future for white children; dollars won't help with that task as much as you think. If you want to just get paid off the jews will be happy to leverage your intelligence for your own genocide at any time. If you want to fight for something more important than money or power then don't cry over unearned satoshi.

he comes from a rich family, owns a house, and doesn't work, whereas I worked very hard to get where I am and had to go into debt for my degree. I even knew about btc a months before he did and advised him to buy when it was cheaper, and he didn't take my advice until after it inflated quite a bit. yeah life isn't fair, that's why i'm bitching

no idea what your point is here. if dollars weren't in the picture i would be complaining that I could be a millionaire in some other currency.

I have news for you…

Tulip bulbs were actually a great trading commodity in the same way anchovies in prison serve as currency instead of food.

check this out. I won't buy into bit coin because I don't want to get raped by this bubble.

Have you learned nothing from stocks? There is no bubble until normalfags call a bottom - and normalfags are calling BTC overvalued.

literally a jewish argument

Also my waifu is Jewish :^]

What is happening about BTC reminds me of the Great Depression in the 30's when some Jews lied about banks getting bankrupt, they manipulated the people so well with their media that people started to take out their money of the banks and stocks for the Jews to buy entire companies in pennies.

BTC is doing the opposite, I'd say to play the Jew and play safe 50/50 here, so you will not loose all your money like your dads and grandfathers and greatgrandfathers did.

Plebs

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How is it "jewish" to decry the tulip bulb frenzy? Bitcoins are even more worthless, as they count on everybody with bitcoins being able to access the internet, which as we know can be both shut off and fucked with. Now they're sharding the thing, as I predicted years ago.

If you would've listened to anons in 2012 you would've had an 1100% return by now. You seem quite similar to those "uneducated fools" imo.

That could be applied to anything
It's pure luck

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect

Except BTC doesn't…

This is how I know the bull market hasn't even started.
Listen to the man, check.

Plz stfu you cant even do math lol

Comparable to an investment into a startup or technology? Yes. Belief in the technology got BTC where it is now, not luck.

you're mistaking "vision" for luck. Some people 'caught the vision' because they foresaw it's resiliency and usefullness leading to it catching on

What a bunch of iletreable fucks, no wonder why the jews rule the world. You plebs are so misinformed about many things, dont trust fully on btc you will get jewed.

Kill yourself before I kill you for you.

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I bought my first 100 BTC for around $10 a piece in 2012 after someone suggested it on Holla Forums. I stopped working last year thanks to that user. If you're here, ty.

u sold this year?

Checked, & hi Jim. Thanks for hatechan.

Haters gon' hate, hate, hate, hate, et cetera.

Checked, but there is a theoretical limit to the number of tulip bulbs a class I civilization can produce too.

Because you are literally saying the same thing as the (((mega-kike))) (((Bloomberg))) (((Nobel-prize-winning))) (((economists))) on (((TV))).

Wait for the tulips part, you retarded autistic lolbergtarian ancap faggot.

Heil Hitler.

You people are living in a demented fantasy-land. Yes, Bitcoin is skyrocketing, and yes it most likley won't crash. HOWEVER, what do you need to use it? Computers and electricity. What happens after an EMP? All that shit goes away.

You people thinking that "Bitcoin is cool, and the wave of the future" are falling into a futurist trap. Bitcoin is the currency used by "Homo-Machinus" in Man after Man where man colonizes a distant planet and uses technology to transform themselves into machines only for a cataclysim to happen when their new planet's polls shift. This fundementally is a perversion that would make the Unabomber kill himself.

You people need to get out of this Ray Kurtzweilli-tier perverted futurism and be more down-to-earth. Boycott the bitcoin, it is a false idol.

Sure, if your vision of the future looks like Fallout or STALKER, and the internet goes away, then you win. Bitcoin is kill. But so does the existing money systems and everything else we depend on. Should have bought rifles and rooms full of canned food in that case.

But if your vision of the future includes a working internet then get some BTC.

Dude if mass EMP strike happens, having fungible currency is the least of your concerns. And if you think a localized EMP strike is enough to stop cryptocurrencies, you don't understand why blockchain tech is so hyped - you'd need to EMP the entire earth simultaneously - and you can bet some autist has a copy of the blockchain buried off-grid in a lead box.

Who here is a veteran of 2011-2013 /new/ and Holla Forums threads on bitcoin?

"muh tulips" literally makes you sound like the_donald to us, just to let you know

hint: tulips didn't experience linear growth on a log chart for over half a decade

if you want to join the jews and global warming people on the sidelines, fine.. but if you're looking to stomp ZOGs face in, then make it your goal to acquire a single bitcoin over the next few years of your miserable wagecuck life

I am simply saying that any currency which requires electricity and computation is a basic tenant of the futurist religion, and an evil. Read Man after Man, read the Unabomber. It is anti-human and anti-nature to set up a system of economy that requires computation and electricity. Neo-Ludditism is something you should all be embracing. This goes against that, and it terrifies me deeply.

JUST

cool story bro

get some bitcoin

Do you support Ray Kurtzwelli then? Do you think that "Age of Spiritual Machines" is something that SHOULD be achieved?

I would buy some buttcoin if there was an exchange that wouldn't ask for;
And a lot more of data mining bullshit. Seriously why can't I just give a gift card and skip all the verification and personal info hassles?

Fuck out of here you hook nosed degenerate

you're better off reading it's current value on a log scale for math reasons I don't know.

Nobody said it is a good thing. Cryptocurrency is completely amoral. We're on the cusp of a transhumanist nightmare, social services will collapse, hyperinflation will reach fever-pitch. We're talking global Weimar. If we play the game right, we might just step into the new era as lords. Then we can make executive decisions about the future of our nations & race.

What is it? let me guess, Nhentai? Either way repent faggot.

this is why jews control banking and all of our kike media, because people like you legit just deny reality

No, it's people like you duped into thinking you're better than nature and can not only fix all but improve with technological advancement.

governments need a paper trail to prevent people from NOT paying capital gains taxes after they cash out and turned their dollar into ten dollars

If the exchanges didn't take this info, the government and SEC would shut them down.

I'm talking about challenging the legacy ZOG central banking system and you're talking about the singularity.

One thing at a time, sport.

you admitted btc probably won't go down yet you still refuse to buy any because ????? stop caterwauling about ray kurtzweil nobody cares what you are talking about and literally has nothing to do with btc. btc has usefullness in the block chain. Destroying the kike FED reserve system is a transhuminist nightmare? you're not making any sense

Destroying the Fed using imaginary currency that only exists as a concept in cyberspace is a part of the transhumanist nightmare. It is amoral to dabble in such things as it is the slipery-slope.

Come back and post your face when you realize that ALL OTHER CURRENCY is imaginary junk issued by elites, and that bitcoin is the first one that isn't.

I now that what we have now is pseudo-Fiat, based in debt. However, Bitcoin is wose FUNDEMENTALLY because it has no tangability.

so if it's not tangible it's amoral to use? filtered for being a brainlet. i'd rather wallow in my own self pity for losing out on this opportunity than talk to an idiot

Make an argument or be roped

Are you really prepared to discuss the fundamentals of bitcoin?

Do you understand that bitcoin is a global ledger where everyone is forced to agree how much money everyone else has? Nothing else has worked like this in human history. This aspect alone should stir something in you.

sorry it's not a paper ledger so apparently it's not morally acceptable, no coins for you!

Yea … not a paper ledger in the filing cabinet of a massive Rothschild bank = NOT REAL MONEY

Sure they did simpleton, what about all my other points or who cares you have that one point nailed? Fucking stupid nigger

it's fiat based on the quality of MUH ALGORYTHMS

k

algorithms

they always brag, pic related

No, Im nothing like the fools who promote kikecoin, you will never understand your stupidity.

stay mad, no-coin normie

buy silver,in the smallest units
5-10gram coins

I was under the impression psychology and most of the esteemed doctors in that field are kikes, and natsocs vehemently despise such studies and works of fiction. The best part is, you commiting the ad hominem fallacy by attacking me over my comments many valid points of interest. So I shall safely assume you are of jewish heritage and sage this reply and ignore you from here on out. Thanks schlomo!

gold>bitcoins

Some guy defending US DOLLARS is calling me a Jew!

I just wish jewish mind tricks like crypto currency werent heavily promoted to the point were stupid people like you get sold on the lie, hold all the way up the hill and scream "look at me im so clever" forgetting about basic thermodynamics and physics, what goes up and how much energy in and all that. Enjoy being depressed and dying sad, nigger

they are called quantum computers and have been in use for at least 30 years now. Now they are publicly available. your star "traditional" computer aint shit to a quantum one (at some operations like cracking hashes)

Cash is king fuck head, bitcoin can be tracked and when they put a micro chip in your hand you best behave goy. But thats ok you seem too stupid to understand where you are going wrong. I dont see you buying eggs and bread with your kikecoin, it isnt intergrated, and you probably use zog cash too so your argument is null and void.

You've lost the plot if you think being on the side of Krugman, Stiglitz and literally every fucking Jewish economist makes you right.

jmbullion.com/1-2-oz-sunshine-silver-round/

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silver>gold>bitcoins

how to into buttcoin

Wait … do you know anything about money?

Do you know how to read?

THERE IS NOT ENOUGH ENERGY IN THE SUN TO EVEN COUNT THROUGH THE KEYSPACE EVEN IF GIVEN A THERMODYNAMICALLY PERFECT COMPUTER …

… never mind actually test the keys.

All these well-meaning (?) simpleanons giving the kikes credit for creating something… We already had 'muh global digital currency', or have you never used SWIFT for an interbank transfer…? Kek. Cryptocurrency is financial anarchy, a TRUE free market. It's bigger than bitcoin.

Pepeballer?

What do people think of IOTA? Any reason to try to get into it?

sorry bub, gold is where it's at, your little pump and dump scheme has been noted

agreed

this has happened like 20 times already nigger, btc is a series of bubbles, plebs find out about it buy high and then get dicked by competent day traders and a host of other qualified scam artists

Its very simple bitches, get a little coin, squirrel that shit away and dont worry about the fucking price, continue to get on with your life

bitcoin can be tracked if youre a retard that buys with his bank account on a fuckin exchange

This times 6 million

Checked, and yes. So 'spend' it. Send it from the exchange to a new wallet. 'Sorry mister tax man, I spent it'. Ever seen chinks do business? Play dumb mang.

Yeah, and Jews are the ones who will benefit. They were the first ones to support bitcoin.

No, they fucking weren't. The first supporters were some spergs trading MtG cards online you fucking anal rapist.
Off you trot Chaim >>>/gaschamber/

I once viewed bitcoin with a positive attitude, but it kinda reeks, no cash, every transaction traceable, bots trading…

Any suggestions on a secure and private way to buy this shit? I wanted to years ago but all the big exchanges that get shilled require you to fork over personal info and bank stuff. Fuck that, I want to buy in cash if possible. There's an atm at the local mall, apparently. Is that shit any good?

What wallet should I use? Help me out here, I'm tired of watching this opportunity pass me by.

You gotta be kidding me if you don't think kikes bought up a ton and are manipulating it.

It was merely a token to convert darknet market purchases (mostly for drugs) from shekels to buttshekels and then back to shekels.

Just because it costs a shitload in electrcity and computing power / equipment to generate a buttcoin doesn't make it worth something.

To me it's all hype and little substance and nobody ever made a good case on why I should trade my hard gained shekels for an object of speculation (speculation is a sin btw.).

Atm is most likely going to require some ID to use. Your best bet is something like localbitcoins, or maybe a bitcoin meetup. Good desktop wallet is Electrum, don't need to download the whole blockchain to use it. If you're working with any significant amounts I'd also recommend a hardware wallet like a ledger or a trezor, which will protect you from getting key-logged.

Really I don’t get the hype for bitcoin outside of a scheme to make shekels. It is easily just something which exists more like a stock or better yet some form of odd commodity. People don’t use bitcoin for its original design because it is a flawed system that fairs far better at making you more shekels than being used like one might use a currency. The market for btc is also so small that large firms could effectively buy mass amounts of it and then stimulate rapid pride increases only to sell it for shekels. It’s just a fake shekel based on a fake shekel. Hitler would spit on you for even trading it.

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You really expect the electrical network will function when the whole western world is about to fall into pieces? You do realise their plan is crash our society completely right? Having your funds in electronical currency is fucking stupid. They can't track your transactions with physical currency, with electronical there is ALWAYS a way.

And what do you do when there's a power outage?

Just get a fire-steel, works for a long time and can work in rainy-conditions aswell. Just know what kinda material you need to easily light a fire.

Do you understand how cash works? I own a small business that only survives due to my ability to skim off the top otherwise id be paying twice as much tax. If we were in a digital currency this would not be possible. all small business do this, so yes … Cash is king, that is not to be misunderstood as I dont fathom fractional reserve lending and trickle down economics.

Did the bible predict this?

Why all the shilling on every chan site to paid adds for "Muh Bitcoin is the FUTURE!" since the Rothchilds invested in Bitcoin, something is off and I am not smart enough to figure it out.

yeah the aryan ubermensch winklevoss twins are jews, satoshi nakamura is jewish.

Thanks user, your comment is why I still lurk. Had never heard of the term, the orrigins or why the prefix was added. Certainly something I have clearly adopted fully without realising it had already happened once. I oppose tech even though hypocritically I still use it, I disdain modern society and truly long for a more natural way of life. A yearning I have had most of my life, I hope it happens. Meanwhile I will continue to try squeeze it in inbetween my work life, spring here so my veggies are going off, potatoes growing like crazy and my sugar snaps and beetroots are exploding. Have been growing for a few years now so learnt alot. Couldnt recommend it any higher as a hobby to take up. Relaxing, educational and it pays off, better than fapping imo.

because you can't debase it (also a sin to do btw)

you could be anything, and yet you chose to become a belligerent little asswhipe nocoiner. Enjoy your clay tablet banking faggot.

Nice no true Scotsman chaim.

you don't have coin, so why are you even into a discussion when you have zero hands on experience?

Christ you are dense
I dont have to sit here and type out my whole life and all the experience I have had, why assume schlomo? Yes I have had experience, I got to purchase my first bitcoins by money transfer 5 years ago and use to purchase shit off DNM, Had lots of fun doing it and I helped a mate set up a vendor account and used to help him out. I also tried my hand at reading charts and trying to "day trade" with a small initial investment but happily gave it up as I couldnt help but detest the premise and the more I learnt and read the more I disagreed with digital currency and the illusion of wealth it has generated. Next time you wish to base an argument off of nothing just like your beloved bitcoin, make sure you actually think about what you are writing.

I have some coin but the shilling for bitcoin has gone through the roof more than anything else.

My biggest question is why is shilling taking place like this, why do other people want me to make money?

Cause its a pyramid scheme and they need fresh lambs to the slaughter, its already disgustingly overpriced to the point no pleb teer blue collar could buy 1 measly bitcoin.

How about you follow your own advice then dumbshit - bitcoin is now at all times high you cunt maggot.

mfw plebs can't even put aside 25$ for .002 bitcoin

Bitcoin can go up as high as it likes my argument is not based on its ridiculous over valuation, its based on that it has no intrinsic value and by being intangible it fits perfectly with bringing on a world currency and a cashless society. Digital wealth is not real wealth and you dont own it if you dont hold it. Besides even if I was a "cunt maggot" at least Id die knowing I got more pussy than you, faggot.

since you provide some valid point it just shows you have done some research. but you aren't done with your model.

people calling it a bubble, yet we are only touching the bottom price levels. Basically the USD is the bubble.

2. it[']s based on hat it has no intrinsic value and by being intangible
citation needed - The point can be made that they are energy conversion tokens (it costs power to obtain them).

Maybe, but if you know a little about bitcoin you will know it is digital cash.
this just shows that you should change to the silver market or any other physical market out there.
boipussy doesn't count you faggot - also post your evidence of the 'more pussy than you meme'. you could've said I had a small dick and girls laughing at me constantly when I pull it out.

Insulting people like a child who just discovered swear words doesn't really make people take anything you say seriously. I makes me suspect that you are in fact Jewish with your infantile obsession with filth.

nah brah. any other shitcoin serves better than BTC for payments

are you offended?
how did it work out?
did it benefit you?
did your momma raise you to be such a faggot?

This. The BTC bull run is boomers & kikes leaping on the bandwagon without any understanding of the tech. Ethereum & Bitcoin are both terrible platforms. In saying that I wish I'd held my BTC for a little longer than I did.. Sometimes being ahead of the crowd is a curse tbh.

KEK
that's alot of pizza

2018 because it's 30 years after the publication.
Had they published that in 1989 it would say 2019 in the coin
or not

the phoenix is representing gold.
The on true world currency - every culture in history valued this metal.

(checked)
I can't believe I missed this.

the exchanges fees usually make any gains a bot could get from hourly fluctuations moot. You are paying the exchange to stabilize the market for them

the entirety of the Amazon.com catalogue is enough 'things to buy' for you?
purse.io/shop

How it works:
You make a cart and post it on the website
Someone buys the cart for you with USD
You pay them in bitcoins the value in USD

They got to buy bitcoins at a cheaper price than most alternatives
You got to buy stuff from amazon with bitcoins

It's a win/win scenario, literally the definition of a healthy market

Lots of butthurt fags in this thread that didn't get in to the game.
I bet you'd be singing a different song if you had some btc.
I bought 200 Euro worth when they were arround 5000 a piece now I doubled that. It's not much but it's quite a valid reason to make a few bucks fast if you time it right.

I have got 56 and I don't know if I should get out or stay in.

HODL

HODL

I will sell it around new Years when the need for drugs will bump it a bit more. Othervise the growth looks very unhealthy(pic related) like some ponzi scheme it should drop soon if not I have no fucking clue what this is.

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Well I have had it for years and it's kinda intimating having a lot of money all of a sudden. Was thinking of selling half of it soon and then just letting the rest be.

*intimidating

I'm a bit of a bitcoin expert, I've been doing this a long time and understand the protocol in depth. If you have any technical questions, ask me.

Bitcoin uses a technology that has never been tried before and cannot be stopped. So you are right, it is different.

Your second paragraph is not correct that's not how the protocol works.

You cannot get a location from a bitcoin transaction. There are steps you can take to hide your internet presence. The only info you can get from a bitcoin tx is the content of the tx.
economic power of the prevailing fork. Which raises the dollar reward for miners. Bitcoin is sustained by each element's selfishness. The more selfish you are, the stronger and more reliable bitcoin is.
This is an economic argument and doesn't exclusively apply to bitcoin.
Electricity is linked to cryptos. Actually it's linked to hashcash POW. which is linked to the inflation schedule+transaction fees.

Electricity is actually the last element in the chain securing bitcoin. It's what makes it so secure. By using more power than 157 nations combined, you ensure that no other nation can take over the coin. As of 2013, bitcoin's network performance outperformed all the world's supercomputers.

Ultimately, it isn't electricity that is the POW cost, but whatever it takes to solve hashcash puzzles. If you can solve a hashcash with a banana, then bananas will suddenly be the big backing of bitcoin. It's just naive to say the price is linked to power. It's like you're looking at a pyramid upside down.

the protocol is designed to be durable for such a failure. Actually, it's far more likely that a nation will firewall all bitcoin coming in-and-out. Even still the result is the same, a sudden loss of POW power, and bitcoin rolls on fine.

Well as far as I know the Bitcoin isnt as part of any bank or gold standard. Neither was the Reichsmark.

no idea mate, but if i had 56 i would probably sell a couple soon to pay some bills but hold the vast majority…

That's how you should do it, it'ssmarter to keep a few if the prices go up again

Feel free to donate a fraction of one here. I'll put it to very good use
SIEG HEIL
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Ok while I don't usually get into philosophy, yes he does. He make the risk early on and had the vision to buy. He held onto them for a long time, and now he reaps the rewards.

Back in 2012 I bought 275 bitcoins. I WOULD be a millionaire right now, if I held them all. Now I'm left with a measly 50. I took the risk, but lacked the vision and discipline, so i don't deserve the wealth. You did nothing, so of course you deserve to be broke.

Comments like yours are the mindset of a failure. You have to change your mind to be a success.

You only need one surviving computer in the entire world to completely restore bitcoin. Most users with serious funds have their bitcoins memorized or written on a sheet of paper.

This is half true. Quantum computers exist yeah, but they're in their infancy, like computers today used to use punch cards. Quantum computing is not, yet, at a place to threaten bitcoin. But it will eventually.

this is true

what do you mean by this?
for now, yes
this promotes market-making and secures the market. It's a plus not a negative. Behind every bot is a man, and this man has money that he is risking. This is in every possible way a positive thing.

localbitcoins.com
or a bitcoin atm
or with a amazon.com gift card if you don't mind paying like a 30% fee

Which wallet should you use? I use bread on the iphone, but it's starting to glitch recently. Check bitcoin.org to find a wallet, they have a pretty good comparison.

The best wallet by far is trezor, if you're using a desktop/laptop.

that came well after bitcoin was invented.

correct

interesting.

I can't say. But I had 56 a few days ago (strange coincidence), and i sold them and took a beating because the price continues to rise.

I speculate that when futures hit, this will saturate the market with bitcoins for a short while, pushing down the price. Also the tether drama could pop and harm the bitcoin price for a short while. Otherwise user, don't make the mistake i did and you should persevere. Hold them until at least the next block halving. If not the one after.

This basically tbqh smh.

no he bought a bunch because he had free money despite never working for it

i did nothing because I had no money because I had no job and no rich parents

He worked for it by making the purchase.

lol get the fuck out of here dude you're just disagreeing to disagree and completely missing my point

For those who have no idea of what this means:
That's when the reward/block drops in half, expected to happen in jun 10 2020

every block is expected to happen every 10 minutes, and the halving happens each 210,000 blocks
bitcoinblockhalf.com/

Pretty much either put your personal ID up on websites that can and probably will be hacked in the future, or get used to the concept of paying 5$ to pay 10$ to get 90$ to pay 4$ to get 86$ or whatever. Bitcoin ATMs are the best idea, or one of these things called a Flexepin which you can apparently buy at a lot of simple gas stations, but it costs 105$ for 100$ or 155$ for 150$ and they take a minimum of 10$, but its actually 6.75% after that, if you go up beyond 100$, so on 1000$ itd be 67$. Yea, not ideal, but thats why its price is going up now. Its hard to buy, and the infrastructure is still in development. It will become much easier in the coming years, but by then it will be too easy and everyone will be in on it, your 100$ will only be 200$ when Bitcoin goes from 50k to 100k for example. Theres still money to be made on altcoins. Look at Monero, its a safe bet.

Like most websites required verification in the form of a picture of your ID and you holding it with todays paper or some bullshit. I dont want to do that, so Id have to use either like atms or local bitcoins (meeting some dude and still paying like 10% above market value etc) or this flexepin shit.

I'm disagreeing because you're not understanding that you're just toting your own lack of effort as a means to try to garner pity. You certainly could have cut some purchases out at some point in order to invest if you'd had the foresight and the faith to put money in early.

You didn't, but your friend took the risk, and it paid off. That's all there is to it. Just because he didn't need to slave away for his money or cut back on his spending to make the investment doesn't invalidate the risk he took in the purchase. He deserves his payout.

Or of course, just have a buddy who you can hand cash and he can send you coins. That costs nothing, and as more people adopt it, it will become more common.

BTW I was trying to avoid all this shit for years but its come into a point where it feels time sensitive. Monero was 200$ a couple days ago and like 150 a few days before that. Its at 280 right now, and was like 240 half way through yesterday. You already easily could have made 30% on your money just with that. Theres this one called Iota which is supposed to take off, EOS too. Monero is a privacy based currency. When the FBI raided the silk road, they said they uncovered X amount of bitcoin, Y amount of Etherium, Z amount of.. Zcash.. and an "unknown amount" of Monero. It cant be tracked. They cant figure it out, how much you have, how much you sent etc.

i'm not misunderstanding anything, i'm lamenting my situation and contrasting it with someone who got a huge payout and didn't deserve it, what is so hard for you to understand?

You're being internet-contrarian, and claiming that my friend "deserves" his massive fortune because he took a risk. this is false, he took no risk because he got his money from a trust fund and doesn't want for anything. His decision making process was, 'do i put my interest from my trust fund into stocks, precious metals, or throw some of it into this new bitcoin thing'. that's not a risk. sage for my perpetual bitching

He deserved it is my point, because he took the risk. You didn't take the risk, so you didn't. Trust fund or not, he put in the money which he could have lost if the price hadn't risen, whereas you didn't due to the added risk because of your financial status.

You can sit here and cry about it or you can get on the train before it's too late and start buying and trading now. It's a perfect opportunity to go long right now before the price goes even higher.

As someone who didn't buy BTC back when I had the chance and in a way regret it, these recent jumps in prices is still making me very suspicious about it.
Considering how the kikes work, they would not let this opportunity go to make money or to control it and considering how much it has jumped in the last few years, it's way too absurd. It's like one of those "Get rich quick" things almost.

you're engaging in context denial in order to win an internet argument. he took no risk. a real risk would have been me dropping out of university during my 4th year of my professional degree in order to use my tuition money on internet magic beans. throwing money into btc meant nothing to him

I can, have, and still am :^)

what about redpillcoin

kek

Which one of you got the payout, again? Wonder how much you'd have if you'd taken said risk. (^:

Speculation is what National Socialism is against. Stock market capitalism is cancer, and not what we believe in. Money gained without having contributed to the system in the form of work is not money earned. People shouldnt be successful because of luck, they should be successful because they have contributed their fair share to society.
Despite all this, it would be stupid of us not to make money on it, hopefully to use that money for pro-white causes.

Money taken from the stock market is money taken out of the hands of a waiting jew. That's my philosophy regarding it.

Bump due to being retarded and not clearing the email field.

People using Holla Forums as their opportunity to shill bitcoin for personal gain are detestable, there is some valid hostility to be given out there. People who want to benefit our race by enabling their brothers to effectively take advantage of the almost "golden" opportunity I would personally welcome and have nothing against. It feels like nows the time, and if you wait a few months after youre never really going to see the gains you could have if you at least put a few hundred bucks in something now. When its at 1 million, your 100$ will be 10,000$. If you invest at 30,000.. it will only be 3,300ish. It could be 30k by next month.

I agree, I'm not actually sure why these threads keep popping up on Holla Forums of all places. I'd expect it on /biz/ but not here. But as you said, now's the perfect time to strike and make a fortune, to put towards good causes, while keeping the jews from making that investment instead, and don't doubt they will. I wouldn't have even bumped this thread if the one user's self-pity hadn't rubbed me the wrong way, to be honest

Id say though, its still risky, it could still have a panic sell to some extent, dont bet the farm on it like some people do. Id say put a little bit of money you can part with each month as an almost sure investment for the future. Spread it around to the alt-coins too, they go up at a much faster rate than bitcoin. I guess if you wanted to fight fire with fire, you would adopt that kike tradition where they teach their kids whenever they get 10$ to spend 5, put 1 in the bank, invest 1, loan 1, give one to church and something else I think with the last, or they invest 2 or something. Anyways, it doesnt have to be bitcoin, but theres nothing wrong with teaching your kids to save 10%, 20%, even just a few bucks of their money here and there. Kikes do it, most of us dont, and thats one more reason they are ahead of us.

Good fucking advice, user. Altcoins are doing pretty well. XMR and ETH in particular have high potential for gains. Admittedly the 'fight fire with fire' philosophy is something most won't accept here, but it's my opinion that to fight the jew, we need to know where he thrives, and take the fight there. Just take care not to become the thing you're fighting against, I suppose.

this is the emotional thinking that drives bubbles. I'm not saying you are wrong, but so many people are thinking this same way RIGHT NOW.

The problem is that it takes weeks and weeks for the exchanges to verify your identity and set up your account before you can start trading, partly because they don't have the staff to process all the normies getting into it…

I dont mean with everything, but when it comes to teaching your kids to save money instead of spending it all on… whatever mostly degenerate shit kids tend to spend their money on these days.. theres nothing wrong with that. I had someone in my family who bought me a 100$ bond when I was young, and a minted set of coins, and stuff like that. He started giving me 100$ bills when I was older, probably assuming I was saving it, but no one really actually taught me how to handle and save the money. I used the bond when I was like 18, and bought pot with it. Thats where the miscommunication was, my actual parents never taught me about saving, and the family member who was giving me money just assumed I wasnt that stupid I guess. He was a really smart guy, successful too. I miss him a lot.

See, these are the kinds of things we should teach our kids, at least for the time being. It's an important life skill to know how to handle money, but it's not taught in school, or by parents strangely enough. Even if the system is twisted and manipulated by kikes, that doesn't change the fact that it's there for the time being, and our children need to know how to get by in it.

This is going to be entirely speculation, I'll admit that upfront, I haven't looked into whats really going on behind the scenes in this, but even just basic speculation leads to huge red flags, let me explain:

See, this is my problem, where is this supposed value coming from? Yes, you can argue that its selling for so much because theres just that many USD floating around with nowhere to really go (because god knows they arent using it to pay the people who actually do any of the work in this country), but that money isnt in the hands of the average pleb in US. Which means that "we" aren't the ones driving its prices up to these ridiculous values, because we don't HAVE that kind of money. I mean really, who has $11k to drop on a bitcoin? Sure you can buy fractions of them, but is someone really paying $1100 for 1/10th of a bitcoin? Thats a lot of USD for NOT a lot of this other investment. Are people really going to want to do that?

Yeah, you can make the argument that people buy gold when its $1300 an oz right now, thats $1300 for a small slip of metal, so why wouldn't they do it for a bitcoin? Well, thing is, average people aren't buying that much gold either, a lot of that price is tied up in futures or pushed up in value due to China and others buying up gold. So, sure, some people here will buy some gold, but its mostly other actors, meaning that its not us thats driving the price, its state or bank actors in various ways.

So that brings us back to bitcoins current price, for it to be this high, actors with lots of money have to be buying it up a LOT to drive the prices as high as its gone to now, and there cant be as many of those actors right? Well, if you look at charts of the price change vs volume exchanging hands, you should notice something. Back when it was $1k a coin volume moving was MUCH MUCH greater than it has been the last several months. It was being traded a lot, it was at its peak "hype" moments. Since then, however, its been trading much slower, despite its continual rise in prices, and only once it hit $10k did it start trading a lot more. My guess is that around $1k there were lots of ACTUAL individuals trading, and many sold off and got out thinking that was the peak. Since then volumes traded have been far lower, but prices have kept going up, up, up. Now, what else do we know of that does this? The US stock market. Volumes traded are much lower, yet prices constantly go up, why is this? Pretty simple, bots trading with other bots in a complicated chain to hide it just going in circles, but at each step its price gets raised or slightly lowered to obfuscate whats going on, the same people trading in circles to drive up prices, price the peasants out of the markets, and give them total control OF those markets.

So, is bitcoin immune to that sort of manipulation? No, not at all. You don't know who you're trading to, or who owns what. If anything, its even EASIER for them to manipulate prices in this manner, and they need fewer trades going on TO manipulate prices if such is the case, which makes the low trade volume but massive increase in value, make more sense. Its them trading in small circles, increasing prices at every step, and driving the price up to whacky levels, to once again price the peasants out of those markets and control them as completely as possible. Once they hit big high numbers, lots of normies sell off, you saw a spike in trading at $10k/coin as well, most likely a lot of peasants selling off to get out of the market at the high point. But "they" dont care, they have that kind of money to piss away, so they just keep buying it up, and prices GO up as a result, but then trading volume goes way down once the normies are all sold off that are going to sell off.

Even the idea its rich chinese whackos who cant invest in much, is a bit nonsensical. Oh I'm sure theres quite a few doing this, but being how China is, would they really risk investing in something so weird, especially as China has been trying to clamp down on it? Even at its peak fortune reported 18% of trades were in yuan, thats less than 1/5th of the market, could they really be driving the price up to these whacko levels just on that? I doubt it very much.

So again that brings us back around to the question… WHO is driving the price up? Volume traded is lower, but prices soar, china has tried to clamp down on it which would naturally spook investors and decrease their willingness to buy at such ridiculous prices… so… who do you know, with absurd levels of money to just piss away, who despise any trade or currency being outside of their grasp, who do NOT want the peasants to become wealthy and be able to exist outside of their control, who have manipulated controlled and cornered other exchanges of various sorts in the past, and who would already have the infrastructure in place to do all of it as soon as they saw how whackado bitcoin prices were getting?

… yeah.. you know the answer to that. So the real question that leaves us asking is, whats the goal? My guess, is simply to buy them all up, let them go quiet once normies are prices out of the markets and are paying little attention, then probably crash their prices into the toilet rapidly BUT while selling to themselves (due to lack of the peasants who are still paying much attention) to keep the vast majority of control of the currency in their hands and be able to keep its prices at rock bottom levels. Yes, they'd eat huge losses of supposed profit (it all just gets passed between them in circles anyway, so no REAL loss occurs), but once they sit on the coins at super low prices and only sell back and forth in very small amounts, it will destroy any and all confidence in cryptos. Why? Because normal people will be so turned off by the risk of such an immediate loss of investment, and the few basement dwellers who really want to push it don't have the kind of income or manpower to counter these things, and any attempt to drive the prices back up will be met with massive resistance and ultimately their coins ending up in "their" hands and being kept at low prices. Sure, again, you can switch to other cryptos, but the same can and will happen there if needed, but it probably won't be. All confidence from the normies will be forever gone, so very VERY few new investors will show up, and people who visit places like this will eventually figure out what happened, and spread the word and then even the crypto loving crowd will realize their plans failed and theres no future here and quit as well. Thus, cryptos die a death caused by everyone forgetting about them.

Either that, or they simply keep driving up prices until its just them passing it around, and try to end up treating it like the NYSE trying to get a few normies to invest here and there and then continually manipulating prices to cause normies to lose money on the exchanges in the long run. Remember, the house always wins.

Only time will tell if my speculation has merit. But given its prices, its low trading volume compared to where it was at at its peak hype around $1k DESPITE how much more its gone up in value, chinas crackdown on it despite less than 1/5th of the market having been in china to begin with, and the fact we've seen this sort of thing play out in other markets before? Yeah.. I'd say I'll probably eventually be shown to have hit fairly close to the mark. Remember, "they" hate markets and currencies outside their control, they've literally murdered the leaders of nations and gone to war because nations tried to exist outside of their control… do you REALLY think they wouldn't take an interest in cryptos and come up with a way to control it or destroy it in the end?

If you ask me gold and silver are losing value simply because there is so much easy money to be made on coins. Just be careful when buying an alternate coin, because they can suddenly start dropping in value and a lot of people end up with less than they bought in for. Theres one, I think its called Ripple, and it kinda just did that recently. Everyone thought it was going to be the next big one to shoot up "to the moon" but it just kinda went up a bunch and then stagnated and fell down. I dont know the story, but you dont want to be one of those people who bought in on Ripple. Monero is something everyone sees a future in because of its benefits to security. Yesterday it was accepted by 50 online stores as a payment method, and it has a smaller supply than Bitcoin. Thats why its rallying, its going places. Its one of the ones people are actually mining right now. The main problem with it is its blockchain size. The bitcoin blockchan is like 150gb, to hold the "core" bitcoin platform on a computer and use it as a wallet. It grows constantly, it was at 100gb at the start of this year. Litecoins wallet is only 10gb. The Monero wallet a few months ago was supposed to be like 40gb I think, so give it a couple years, it will be 100, 200, 1TB. Thats its main weakness, you dont need to put a Monero wallet on your computer though, and it is one of the things their competent developer team is working on from what Ive read. Thats why I said above that its the one Id be mostly interested in, and the percentage gains to be made are far greater than sitting in bitcoin. Like I said, spread it out, dont just go all in on bitcoin or monero or whatever.

benefits to privacy rather, not security.

ripple is still around. it's not really a coin it's more of a processing method, i don't know the details but it's not the same thing as another alt coin

Yea, I really have no idea about it but I read some really salty people yesterday, telling eachother to hold and that it will all be fine. I dont want to be one of those guys lol

This doesn't actually change anything I said though. Its switching gold for silver or platinum or w/e else, it can all still be controlled and manipulated in the same way by the same actors in the end. The only question is "will it be necessary to do so?" They obviously thought it was necessary with bitcoin, if anything else becomes like it, they'll do the same there as well.

Just consider this: online retailers taking your crypto, but those same ones taking anywhere between 10 and 150 gb of storage on your computer to store or wallet or w/e else. Is John Q Public, 1) going to download all this? 2) is he going to think its worth it? 3) even really own a PC where he is willing to tie up all of these resources just to use some kind of currency that still exists in this weird state but that isnt showing any signs of becoming far more normie-friendly to use? You talk about size going up or changing based on security or privacy or w/e else, but are those really the concerns that need addressed to make these thigns more widely accepted? And moreover, if those things ARENT being addressed, then clearly the target ISNT to get these things more widespread, so what is the goal? To draw in more money from shadowy people who have hoarded money and are very serious about security/privacy, wouldnt you think? But can you really base an entire economy off of just those people trading in circles? Probably not, but you CAN draw them in to spending shit loads of their hoarded wealth into these coins and then manipulate, corner, and control those markets.

Ultimately I believe my original point still stands. I do not believe that these rises in prices are natural, or the supposed increases in "buyers" is real. I think its all artificial and manipulated to lure in certain types of people, have them offer up their wealth, and then take it all away in the end. Again, do you REALLY think "they" wouldn't come up with ways to manipulate and corner these markets? To figure out how to do all this, to fuck with the minds of the potential investors and lure them in? and so on and so on…

This is all that they do, lie, manipulate, steal, and impoverish. And they take every chance they can to do so. Yeah, we like to consider them laughable or inept morons because how easily they fuck up sometimes, but really that is due to how many things they keep in the air at any given point, they're bound to drop a few balls from time to time given how many they're juggling at once.

Do not underestimate our enemy. They may be corrupt and many of them get to where they are through nepotism and thus are inept in many ways. But they didnt get to the top to begin with because they're all incompetent, there are enough incredibly savvy ones out there to create and enable and control all these things from the beginning anyway. And you'd be a fucking moron not to realize they'd obviously have their hands in this cookie jar as well, and given how the market for it is, you'd be even more foolish to think they haven't devised a way to manipulate and control it and are working on increasing how strongly they can do those things.

Thats all I'm saying. I don't trust it, to me it reeks of their kind of manipulation and control, and I don't underestimate my enemies or fall for their tricks.

I hope some of you boys hold the real bitcoin (BCH). Probably about to see some big moves happen.

I imagine they will manipulate it and dont see any reason why they wouldnt. Theres still a very much larger potential to make money off their gains as they become more and more accepted by society, and I highly doubt they can "kill" the cryptocurrencies now that the cat is fully out of the bag. They are developing so many coins, theres a coin that just came out being developed entirely around benefiting virtual reality developers, its being exploited as a pump and dump, but its a real company and they have a future. Its in the investment phase where 70% of the coins are distributed, and then theres some more phases, and when they start using the cloud service on Alibaba next year (I believe they just buy the service like you could from Amajew or whatever, not an official partnership or anything) it should go into use. Anyways, youd want to actually read up on it, but its a currency that allows VR developers to easily view and exchange assets, theres a demo that people can make VR assets in, and it solves a real problem in a developing and emerging market. You can buy hundreds of these coins for pennies, and who knows, maybe they go nowhere.. but VR has a future. I grabbed some, why not, its like 2$ or something even if its being used as a pump and dump. Buy on the dumps, 20 cents, 22 cents. They had it up to 30, you could have made 50% on your money last night just playing around with their obvious manipulation. Everyone was spamming the exchanges chat, saying "Buy CAPP!" "To the moon!" it was an extremely obvious exploitation, going up and down.

The second the bitcoin becomes an actual threat to banks is the second you have a G7 summit that will take a ban on it's usage and the second the value of the BC plummets to $0.

Thats in increments of 10 coins btw when I said 20 cents.

You should move to China if you like government overreach

We'll see. They already took it over through infiltration and stopped it from scaling which made it fork into 2 coins. BTC (Segwit) is no threat because they have no plans to make it actually useful. BCH is the real bitcoin and is a real threat to the banks if it can take back it's crown.

So buy Monero, they cant even see what the fuck is going on and anyone can use it through tor. Thats why its blowing up, its the new privacy currency that cockblocks even the FBI and NSA etc.

To me buttcoin is just proof japs are the new kikes.

FAKE NEWS
bcash (BCH) is not BITCOIN (BTC) !!
Some muppets like to pretend that it is the same product. Bcrash is the fools gold to bitcoin gold

Bitcoin gold is going down, I grabbed a tiny bit, I read (and this could be pure bullshit, like absolute intentional bullshit) that whales are driving the prices down so they can buy the coins and profit later on.

[bitcoin gold is also not bitcoin, since the fork].
BUY
BTC bitcoin

My sources indicate IOTA will do at least +30% soon again to 6+ usd before friday market close.

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Thank you

IOTA potentially has a big future and markets itself as a third generation cryptocurrency. It doesnt use a blockchain, it uses something called a tangle, which is very complicated… but its also FREE to send, which is fucking amazing and will seriously hurt Litecoin etc. Theres all sorts of benefits to it, most of which I dont understand, but I grabbed a decent chunk of that… because the kike exchange forced me to buy a large amount for my small account.

In the words of our president..

"ARE YOU TIRED OF WINNING ?"

I remember getting totally grilled in a few threads I tried to start back in 2015.
oh lol

Completely retarded

I want this shit to fail, but its clearly not going to. If anyone should be exploiting this stuff, its whites, not cunts in Venezuela and Zimbabwe getting rich because their country fell apart and their currency was destroyed by their own ineptitude and natural propensity for corrupt behavior. Its like being rewarded for being a human tumor, and they are the ones who will be rich in 5-10 years now, chances are.

Then buy the fucking coins

lol retard, bitcoin cash (BCH) is not bcash (that will launch in 2018)
enjoy your high fee/long confirmation time 'currency' tho

It took me like 2 weeks to do it without giving some future hacker my identity, but I did it. Major pain in the ass at this point, all these cunts thinking they have the right to demand your personal identification and social insurance or whatever the fuck they expect, and be able to send you text messages on your phone that you dont even fucking have because only retards own smartphones, and phone you up in the middle of the fucking day or night to confirm you actually just used a flexepin voucher and shit like that can go shove a 12 inch dildo up their ass. Thats fucking horseshit, and Id seriously like to see the people who made that a regular expectation be torn limb from limb by a pack of wild rapefugees.

Have we been reunited after all these years?

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That video has made me $85,000

(Quad Dubs)

Brokefag here. Is $500 a decent investment amount? All I can spare at the moment (Maybe spoon-feed me where to start?)

Can someone explain to me how the people who got in early on bitcoin are not just shilling for bitcoin in the hope that they can become the new jew with their mountain of kikeycoin?

I've read a couple books on investing and trends…
seeing what others dont - gary klein
intelligent investor - ben graham (buffetts fav book)

the first book is a real gem and its about the psychology of seeing trends before they happen.

my point is:
why it's skyrocketing is because wall street runs big high pressure call centers that are not being paid. they cant pay their mortgages so they start to push an agenda thru the power brokers and move their money to bitcoin.
the slow awakening of humanity will make bitcoin shoot up exponentially.

im not a gambler and ive only lost maybe $200 on cards.

another time people were tipped off on a rising stock value was during the .com where rich people were essentially sold shitty stocks based on no evidence of a trend.
the difference is that bitcoin is a real phenomenon that is transferring wealth from the socialist fat cats into the middle classes pocket.
the only people that are losing out is starving children in africa and lower class compartmentalized ghettoes.
tl;dr INVEST

But its not, its still to complicated for the average person, and they show no signs of working to improve this. The developers are more focused on security, privacy, and efficiency than they are end user experience and ease of use for the average peasant.

This is another problem actually. Consider, another thing many of us partake in, that we've seen blow up and be over saturated and end up crashing because of how both complicated, and shitty, everything ended up being, and the vast majority of the market died off as a result. Yup, video games. I know it SOUNDS silly to compare games to currency, but much of the foundations in the market are the same. Something is created, its not the greatest or best, but it catches fire, popularity spreads, a huge amount of people attempt to bandwagon on and cash in. The end result is that no one really innovates in the right ways and they end up over saturating the market with dozens or hundreds of the same shitty base thing, until users are eventually annoyed with it and drop out of the market to enough of an extent that a huge portion of the market turns away.

Theres also possibly a mirror with the telecomms business. Consider during the height of "different ISPs" existing back in the 90s, all based on a model that was not sustainable. That was largely due to government interference in the market, but do you not think that this is the same only instead of obvious government involvement, we have shadowy cartels, banks, funds, etc, all involved and that dont even have to deal with the government at all really? It ultimately leads to the same end I believe, only this time they don't even need the government involved and can easily consolidate or manipulate parts of the market under big umbrellas and control it all.

Unrelated topic, but I don't actually think it does. Not as it stands, it has a huge problem that cryptos share, they are not innovating in a way that will make them incredibly desirable and easy to use. Consider current VR and how clunky it is, the awkward controllers and headsets, the shitty things they even use it for, etc. Yes you can say these are all growing issues and they'll eventually expand beyond those things, and this is true, the software will improve. But the hardware can't really go that far without vast improvements, which I dont see being made or even worked on right now. Like I said, look at how current gaming VR works, its trash, super clunky, incredibly expensive, and many people look at it and just see someone strapping a TV to their faces and laugh at it. The entire experience needs to improve and become more projection based. But THAT will be even MORE expensive and limited to an even smaller demographic as such because the tech isnt there and cheap enough yet to make it widely accessible and purchasable. Cryptos are walking that same path IMO, they're focusing on things that arent going to increase their widespread appeal and ease of use, making them even more niche in their customer base, limiting potential growth greatly and with so many competing for this same small user base, which leads to massive over saturation of the market, which leads to crashes

What comes after is always more interesting. Just like with videogames we saw a massive over saturation, a crash, and then a rebirth from those ashes. I suspect cryptos will follow a similar path in its own way. I'm curious to see where that leads, but for now its … just not there. And thats not even getting into the issue of (((them))) manipulating and controlling shit constantly

Nah, thats to straight forward, to obvious. You're thinking to linearly. Why destroy what you can co-opt, manipulate, and control from behind the scenes, in order to use it to bring under your control even more "factions" of people in the world who normally have evaded your complete grasp?

same user here..
another thing to point out is the major newspapers (wsj, nyt, usa today)
are not picking up because theyre idiot liberal owned and its a BIG mistake.

video games are actually not a silly investing tool. remember when Nintendo shot up 300% because of pokemon go?
yeah, i missed that one…

Doge, Monero, Dash, Etherium Classic and Bitcoin classic, are the ones currently with all 3 criteria, right?

Scalability (mining), proof-of-works (blockchain) and Decentralization (Anonymity).

I didnt say silly investment, I said it sounded like a silly comparison to make. Its comparing what is a commodity against what is a currency. Thing is, the currency is and has been treated AS a commodity for a long time now, so thats why the comparison IS valid

I was reinforcing your point numbskull…

markets also affect they way people behave

warren buffett is going to spend a cold christmas alone at his bunker in omaha

Just buy the fucking dip.

you don't have to claim to be the same """user""", we already know

I bought .5 bitcoin for about $350. Never used it. If it hits $100000 giving me 50g's what should I spend it on? I was thinking about gold, silver, or platinum.
Or maybe trading on forex with it.

Having white children.

the consensus seems to be weapons and ammo, as these will have a VERY REAL value in SHTF scenarios, whereas metals will only have a market value if there is still a market.
Depends on how bad you think things might get, weapons and ammo is the safest, since no matter how bad it gets, it will still be useful

There are many more, but these are probably the most popular ones. In the long run, the best coin will win, but in the short run the most popular coin will crush the competition. BTC has a lot going for it, but the real reason why it is #1 is because it has name recognition and is currently the most accepted crypto.

Invest in yourself, that's the best investment in the long run. Buy books. Read. Think.

Converting bitcoin into ethnically White children isn't really feasible at this stage in human evolution. Give it a few more years.

I'm a big fan of Wesley Rawles books, and why I was thinking about silver. I'll probably put most of it in silver coins and put a couple of grand into forex.

I already invested in myself. My $350 is now $6000. Though having a complete blacksmith shop would be worth while.

Oh you know what I mean.

Dude split it wisely. Set up goals, and invest smartly. Couple guns, some gear, bugout bag won't hurt. Invest the rest between silver, some physical gold, forex. You already have an good idea how to make money, no need for confirmation bias.

Someone, somewhere high in power is shilling it heavily, I will copypasta something intereting from Dmitry Orlov. Reminder that the chinese own a large part of the pool of coins… makes you think…

They ARE putting pressure. The main coin, BTC, is going the third-party-transactions way to (((make the transactions faster))).
BTC is a dead coin already, while others are not important enough to opposed by the zog.

uhhhh

kaczynski wasnt jewish, nor was he a serial killer. he was bombing leftists both to protest leftists and to force the NYT to publish Industrial Society and Its Future, which they did, which you havent read.

stop posting.

Just looking for ideas. I bought it as a novelty and haven't followed the price until it turned into a major topic.
If my .5 btc turns into $15g I'll pull off a couple of grand in silver, then watch what it does.
Another thought I'm having is to spend it on metals for jewelry making, since that will add value to it.
I'm already a beans, bullets, bandaids, smeac kind of person. This is something new to me.

Ok, fighting the bankshill here. Let's go.

So can cash. Every bill has a unique number on it that can be traced back to the creation place. Plus fingerprints. The bill is full of evidence, while Bitcoin can be shuffled to lose its identifying code.
It doesn't matter how many times it forks. It was not (((Ethereum))) type of forking.
So? Too much is held at few peoples' hands and the people will change coins.
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Unrelated, where do you find a good non-pozzed manifesto?

There's one on /pdfs/ somewhere. Let me just find the link

Just started a new job, and I get paid on the 27th.

I've got £20 to my name for three more weeks. Brilliant; let's hope it's not too low then.

>>>/pdfs/6308

No. I smell a Jew in the works.

Nathaniel Rothschild, the megayid, did this at Waterloo.

He reported that Napoleon had WON and bought everything up. This is a crash. I'd hold it - it might hiccup and plummet, then go to double its peak. I am pretty sure of that.

Thank you very much

Good. I'm thinking this way about it.

Sure, short term-wise BTC is the big dipper, but long-term wise because of BTC is paving the PR road, there is currently going a transition stage from bitcoin-slow transitions to more fast-paced transitions, where the coin with the best tech will win in that niche, like in web-trading and street-level trading, where apps can act as visa.

Bitcoin will never recover from the increasing demand of transactions the way the code is written. Transactions are getting slower and slower. The new coins will need the big ones to back them up, and the new coins will complement how bitcoin is standing as the (perhaps) new digital valuta, but rarely traded on a daily basis.. The way to work it out is how trust can be generated by effort and shareholding and nodes can't be compromised if speed is part of the service. People probably have been grown accustomed to instant transactions, but if it's a paycheck we are still able to wait a day or two for the bank to make the transfer for us.

Imagine the next gen kids will grow up with doge and mon-coins and trade stuff digitally on their apps (not unable to be scammed online, but untrustworthy sources lose faith) on the playground, and the grown-ups will trade securely online with bitcoin, litecoin and such, while the governments are unable to stop the growing underground assets market.

Perhaps one day countries are forced to implement their own currencies. Nation-backed cryptos. That day will be the day the fed and world bank is nuked. Every fiat is mostly digital anyway.

I'm banking on Dash, though I am late in the game. It's a gut feeeling, and the way it's developing it's perhaps only a decade away - day-to-day basis crypto trading.

Unless, of course, it's being made and "uninstitutional" and illegal..

Anyone here that thinks shilling on pol will drive the price up in a pump and dump doesn't understand markets. Retail traders always get fucked. These daily $1000 upward moves are not caused by plebs buying 0.0000001 BTC with their wagecuck shekels. It's large institutions, hedge funds, banks, corporations, all moving on BTC like a bitch.

Because saving our race can't be done with words and deeds alone, I bought in a while ago. If you think that a handful of Holla Forumsacks getting /fit/ and living excellently will save our people, you're a naive fool. We need money and influence. You get neither being an austere, jacked wagecuck in your parents' basement / your rented apartment.

Lucky you. I hate being 20 - I would have bought in earlier, but now that I have a stable income, I'm fucked.

well, that's the best argument I have seen so far against the anti-BTC shills that cry shill

I'm not the other guy but every user should seriously read The Unabomber's Manifesto–his frightening predictions are all coming true, and his understanding of how technology is changing society is incredibly accurate.

Blowing people up is still wrong of course, the dude needed to chill out a bit

They're coming true because jews are pushing them to be true. Technology can't change society, it's just a tool. Jews, however. Maybe if Unabomber was jew aware his manifesto would have been better.

that game is plugged in my 2600 right now lol. playing it on a 55" TV is intense as fuck btw.
also, tfw you didnt buy any buttcoins when they were 100 bucks a pop cause you had "more important" shit to spend money on.

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Could it be one big giant botnet? Something more of a botnet than we would normally consider?

I'm still buying - I have a pot that is my savings which I add to monthly out of my income. I also have a smaller pot that is my trading funds that are set aside. The best part of BTC / crypto is that it is infinitely divisible which helps someone in your position. I wish I had started small and grown my account over time ($150 dollar range) buying a little every month. I am doing OK now, but totally cucked myself in hindsight. I don't think it's too late to start, just don't shit yourself when the market corrects like it did on thanksgiving. We are now 4000 points above that.

For clarity, I meant started when BTC was at $150.

Sage for double post.

I know my economics and my jews.

Should probably cut down to 8000 soon. Definitely hold off from buying you can BUY THE FUCKIN DIP.

It very well could, MOST of the speculation about Satoshi's identity is that he's working for the US Government and that BTC is a plan to kill paper dollars and migrate everyone onto totally trackable digital currency. All we need is a new Pearl Harbor.

No black market
No offshore tax havens
No working under the table
No avoiding taxes
No unreported income
TOTAL CONTROL
TOTAL TRANSPARENCY

And it would be so very easy to freeze / NIRP-raid your accounts once the government is in control.

IDF Unit 8200 and a private wealthy Jerusalem bank owner. Source: He is a distant relative. Rumor has it that one of his sons is the main programmer or is Satoshi, but Satoshi is more or less an alias for a group, like Cicada etc…

I bought multiple 4chan passes with BTC back in the day. Hundreds of dollars down the drain.

this is the problem with Bitcoin, user–nobody, and I mean NOBODY–is buying it to use as an actual currency now. It's purely a speculative vehicle, which makes it a pure Ponzi scheme. It CANNOT be used as a currency until the price stops increasing so wildly.

A guy bought 2 pizzas a few years ago with BTC, it was famous in nerd circles (Slashdot) because it showed that Bitcoin was a real currency that could someday replace US dollars. The 10,000 BTC he spend on those 2 pizzas is worth more than 100 million today, and he looks like an idiot for using them.

NOBODY WILL EVER SPEND ANOTHER BITCOIN UNTIL THEY STOP RISING, ENSURING THE FAILURE OF THIS CURRENCY.

Either you buy them to get rich and become (((The Man))) or you don't buy them, you stay poor, and Bitcoins can stabilize and destroy our (((current system))).

It is a test of your will. But in the end, everyone wants to be (((The Man))) it seems. That's why (((THEY))) will always win. There are no men of honor left.

Checking this user's dubs, he gets it.

Indeed.

This probably. Luckily I only use BTC as a vehicle to trade between projects that seem hopeful. Made BTC's ytd gainz in a quarter.

I am happy for any Kameraden that have taken advantage of the cryptos and/or will do so in the future, but there is no Salvation in it. Fighting fiat by willingly growing the Demiurge's Supercomputer is exactly what "they" want.

There's seems to be a sense of Soul-less Futuristic Fascism on this board rather than National Socialism. The SS were not Fascist Robots, they were Aryan Knights. Completely conscious of themselves and the Cosmic War they have been a part of since the beginning of time.

Money-Moneta is a Weight. The Weight of one's Labor and Actions. Desecrating Juno Moneta imparts a curse on all of Humanity.

And Money is also Electric.
Current-cy is VRIL.
That is our Honor and our Victory.
Eine-Ehre-ER
Hail to those that listen

Of course you should always buy on the dip. Good luck predicting it. If I could see the future and predict every 20% correction, I would be too busy spending my money on genetic engineering an Aryan army of super soldiers instead of shitposting on a Mongolian throat chanting board. But I can't, which is why long run (assuming in good faith that it keeps going up instead of the end of the world scenarios presented in this thread) I'm averaging up by always adding to my position.

Also, $13,000 boys.

we $13k now

I feel far less stupid for buying in when it was at $1k a few years back right before it crashed to $250.

ITT: butthurt nocoiners

All the mainstream media shills, nosebergs, big money investment bank people are calling BTC a bubble. So if they are being genuine (inb4 implying), this means that majority of the seriously big money out there are bearish on BTC.

Despite this, BTC continues to rise. It's not a bubble until the mainstream is telling you to buy BTC.

I could've been rich if I had just bought $20 in bitcoins

You missed out. Buy NXT.

Exactly. Bitcoin was accepted to a major futures exchange recently so the pump is to inflate the price before it begins trading there. Then, the jews sell futures contracts into the dirt.

It's impossible to cash out now at 10k, does anyone think it's going to be more liquid at 100K? All these bitcoin millionaire's wealth is on paper and always will be, until it's not even there.

Swim with the whales, not against them. Wait for the top hint, we're really close as evidenced by Coinbase having it's largest new account sign ups in one day ever. Does anyone think the herd is going to rush in at the last minute and MAKE money? Short it when the whales do, ride it down to the bottom.

Bitcoin gets used in internet drug trade. If theres no better coin ever to do that, bitcoin will stay strong.

OH YEA! SHIT JUST GOT REAL
www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-06/largest-crypto-mining-exchange-confirms-it-was-hacked-over-50-million-bitcoin-stolen
archive.fo/6p2O7

HOLY SHIT!

this good or bad for prices?

Comments in the article are top fucking boomerposting.

Market hasn't reacted yet, we are at $13,600 right now. If anything it has gone up. It isn't like $50,000,000 worth of bitcoins (which is not much compared to the market cap) just vanished into thin air. If they sold them all off, it would probably drive the market down a little bit, and then carry on as usual. We will see $14,000 tonight I think.

It's ok, friendo. Some of us get it.

Back to TRS with you, goon-chan.

Well if that holding company can't recover the losses, imagine the insurance company that will have too and imagine the other insurance companies behind other vendors and what must be going through their minds. Just more fuckery.

well guys I now own 60$ worth of BTC, 20$ LINK and 15 XMR
better late then never

And here comes the herd…
The top is near

You don't own it until you get it off the exchanges. Get your keys set up. Or else if the exchange gets hacked / raided like you get cucked.

14,000 AND CLIMBING
Fuck yeah my .022 btc is kicking ass kek

Not top, just a correction. Gotta clear those short positions and buy in the trough when all the normalfag cancer subsides.

NXT. The blockchain IS the market & currency all in one. The devs were old BTC guys who saw where bitcoin was headed years ago. Can't stress enough how much this is going to tear assholes once it catches on.

triple dub Assad assblasting chekk'd

oh damn they're quad dubs..

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You know hew is responsible for this already.

newyorker.com/humor/daily-shouts/l-p-d-libertarian-police-department

nice quaddubs, except…
>muh (((evolution)))

I would have preferred to spend my bitcoins now than when I did earlier this year. Would have had eight times the amount of acid.

It's terrible that you people think the bitcoin is currency when:
-To have it's value you need to express it in $US.
-No-one on the fucking planet is gonna seriously consider using a currency that can drop 50% in 12H. It's worse than Zimbabwe Dollars level of volatility.

Again if you want to get in the trade and make shekels by speculating on the curve, it's fine.
In fact it's more than fine it's easier to make money like that than with an actual job (which is why jews are doing it on a much larger scale remember) given how disfunctional is our society…
But don't delude yourselves into thinking that crypto-money are an investment when it's a bunch of 1 and 0 the gov can decide to shut down tomorrow at 9:00 AM.
Also
Only if you're mining.
If you people actually believe that when you took out $USD from whatever actual bank you have your shekels to buy BC from whatever BC """"bank"""" it's untraceable you're in for a fucking surprise when the IRS comes knocking.

This is actually another HUGE issue with the coins. One of its "safeguards" as this user would probably deem it, DETERS people from using or investing in it if they have any common sense.

Follow the steps logically. 1) coin is introduced, builds up, people buy in, trade, use for purchases, etc. 2) government/fbi/banks/whoever end up with large amount of coins and reduce supply, drive up prices, and create issues, 3) no worry guys, just switch coins, 4) loads of people bail out and go to the "new thing/coin" and prices fall drastically and rapidly on the "old coin," anyone not watching and keeping up 24/7 will lose money, potentially lots of money or nearly 100% of the money invested if the price crashes very hard and people completely leave the coin.

That last bit, thats where you have problems. That deters people from wanting to invest or use a currency, because it CAN be manipulated/controlled like that over time, and they risk losing all the money they have invested in it. Oh, sure, "just diversify," great, thats neato and all, but that means you're spending LOTS of time watching all these prices and making sure you don't lose loads of value on an hour to hour basis, that you're there to catch every change in value to protect your investment funds. Normal people don't want to do anything like this, they don't want to spend all their free time in an autistic daze staring at price charts. Even if they wanted to, they cant, people DO have to work, they arent all NEETS getting gibs

That is the real problem with these coins. They claim to be a currency, but they're absolutely just a commodity (that has no actual use, its like investing in baseball cards, and thinking one day because they're worth so much that people are going to be willing to accept them as currency). Its treated/traded/invested in as a commodity, and one that changes prices far to fast and to often, people arent going to want to use it as an actual currency due to all the work necessary to use it in the first place.

Despite how many types of coins there are, and how fast the tech is "evolving" for them, they are still very VERY rarely used as an actual currency on any platform, and the tech isnt becoming more "normie friendly," so they will never see widespread use until at the very least THAT is solved. And even then, theres still the problems I brought up in this post.

CCs will remain a hobby for the bored to neets of the world to jew other bored neets out of a few shekels here and there, and if they ever concentrate to much (like btc did) they'll be latched on to hard by (((their))) kind and be used as nothing but another method of control and subversion to milk money out of the peasant class

From what I've read its only taxable when you cash it out. And if its held over a year its taxed as a capital gain. So $13000 at 20% is $2600, leaving you $10400 profit, minus whatever you originally paid for it.
Still a big ass profit for people who've bought in years ago.

it would be idiotic to insure BTC deposits, the owners of the bitcoin bank can just steal the coins anonymously and then claim the insurance money.

The fact that a lot of Holla Forums is so wrong about bitcoin makes me worry about what else we may be wrong about. Seriously though, educate yourselves on bitcoin regardless of whether you plan to invest/gamble. Some of you are embarrassingly retarded when it comes to technology.

True story. And even now you wouldn't really want to spend them, knowing they're going up a thousand bucks an hour or whatever. Bitcoins can't function as a currency anymore because you'd have to be retarded to spend them.

these anons have to go back.

Totally wild ride

Well, luck's luck.

I always thought the slashed zero stood for average
"Durchschnitt"
and the new currency would be block chain based "FEDCoin" fully implemented would basically be the movie "In Time"

I don't know bro, I really like my acid. Don't even regret spending when I did. Getting given my bitcoin for free probably eases the pain as well.

Probably the acid helps too…

My losses are over 60k now, don't worry about it.

You could be the retard who lost the only backup of his wallets with 100.000 BTC on a fucking CD. There is always a bright side.

True true, but this is just a reminder to get serious in the altcoin game. RN I'm setting up a monero mining rig, just gotta wait for that blockchain to download.

Even if the bubble bursts, I wonder how far it will actually drop.
And now I think about those other lesser crypto coins. Dropping a few bucks and just letting them sit like a CD, tucked away for years. Holla Forumstards could be setting up their grandkids to be billionaires. "I buried a usb in the back yard. Dig it up 20 years."

not exactly how that works, in fact it's better to just literally print out a billion copies of your wallet's code/hash and bury them in a lockbox somewhere (a USB can corrupt over time)

Right now its over 800 ounces of physical silver for 1 Bitcoin. That's not going to last. I wonder how long silver can stay manipulated like this.

Probably forever because humanity is fucking stupid.

Bitcoin at that price is just tulip mania.

Checked

I got some letter stamps & wrote my wallets to alumunium billet blocks then buried them. Should be good for a couple centuries or so.

cz'd
It's the paper gold/silver market - and guess who issues the certificates..(((?)))
I just ordered my first swag of silver Reichmarks, a) because silver is grossly undervalued, b) intrinsic historical value, and c) fucken' Reichmarks, mang.

what are you looking at smoothskin?

I think that means I just lost 0.001 bitcoin to some 400lb hacker.

These things are going to become bigger and bigger targets as time goes on until people take the hint.

To any of you in crypto, how are you playing out the next few weeks? I have a sizeable LTC stack from the 30s and I'm unsure how to hedge myself for the short. I'm hoping wall street gets fucked and shorters burned, but i still expect a bunpy ride, thoughts?

Also supposedly someone is offering futures on the 10th

checked for 4chan pass cucked

I've bought several hundred dollars worth of merchandise in buttcoins

WEW
WEW
WEW
Hey Kek I'm listening loud and clear

Checked
Stacking more silver on payday

I am a bit scared that by the point I can convert to alt coins, bitcoin isn't worth as much as when I bought it.

It is possible to directly buy alt coins in Europe without going through bitcoin?

How long does it take from buying at an exchange to having access to it?

My only regret is that I did not think to buy some when they were cheap.
Because fuck me it would have been good.

If I were in that position, I'd hold or sell out on some of the gains depending on how much you have. Lite seems to have transaction time going for it which may make it all worth a lot more in a year or two. Hell something is eventually going to replace this Japanese dark magic. Point is I don't know and neither do you, that's why I keep all my cash in pre-'64 silver dimes.

Just keep it in the safe in your attic, the paper silver and gold contracts are 200 or 500-1 overbought.

Yep says you and a lot of people AND FUCKING ME

>archive.is/YJp0r
Archived the current thread for future reference.

So you want to hold off the crypto revolution so you can hide sales in your faggot store?

K.

btw, you sound like a boomer.

Avoiding BTC at all costs. Keep a sizeable fiat chunk and buy back in when everything goes to hell after the futures open up.

This is a good play.

Also, as we approach the end of the calendar year, look for some drops as major institutions will sell off to lock in profits - most assuredly they'll use their carried forward capital losses accrued in the financial collapse to waive any capital gains taxes they'll have to pay. We might actually see a major correction due to this if a lot of big players all have the same idea. If they all liquidate their positions, retail will get caught holding their bags, and the banks will make a killing - tax free.

Then wouldn't all other assets be blowing up as spectacularly in price as well? E.g., gold, food, oil, etc.?

It is mindboggling just how fucking spasticated most of the anons are in here, Jesus titty fuckin Christ you cunts are dumb. Bitcoin is kiked? Satoshi is working for the U.S Govt? ROFL are you eating fuckin lead paint for dinner? Here's the deal phlegmwads - BTC was created to replace fiat currency and destroy the world banks, these cunts are anarchists - not fucking jews. The problem being, BTC is not fit for purpose, hence the creation of Bitcoin Cash. Satoshi Nakamoto is behind Bitcoin Cash and I can assure you he's neither Jewish, Japanese or working for the U.s Govt. Over the next 12 mths or so bitcoin will crash and bitcoin cash will take its place, anyone who doesnt see this coming is going to lose their ass and probably neck themselves if they are invested in BTC - it's dead in the water and BCH is gonna change the world forever.

There'll be a lot of dead redditors tomorrow.

Prepare your anuses for the biggest pump and dump of our generation faggots.

What do I do if I have bitcoins? Should I exchange it for different cryptocurrencies?

We created bitcoin as a way of circumventing online gambling laws in the US. Satoshi was exposed by us then later by places like wired and popular mechanics. What ended up happening was Satoshi burned out the flash drive he had his cold storage on. His big plan was to become the house using this new currency. None of us, satoshi included had any proclamations of being a competing currency. It was the later cultist adopters who did that for us to great dismay. Bitcoins were supposed to be casino tokens not some fringe libertarian fun bucks that made me a millionaire.

It's up to you. Taking financial advice from anons is a bad idea. I would get rid of them though if you are already in profit.

Thank God of Dead Redditors.

Wow you all love implying something dont you.
At what point did I say I have a store? Fucking douchebags. Your comment is absolute proof no one understands the importance of cash, and the power it gives everyday people.
No you retard, Im a spry young man who fully understands the importance of what is already happening and do not agree that even if btc crashes everything it will be used after the fall. I only worry that shills like you have warped the minds of many questioning souls here to shovel all their hard earned shekels into kikecoin to only further fuck us all over. Where as those same misguided fools could have vested their interests into becoming more self sufficient, buying heirloom seeds and learning how to grow real food without chemicals, to learn how to catch enough rainfall for a years worth of usage. And to stack silver for the just incase. Instead everyone here thinks they are above reality in their digital illusion and making so much money … But you arent, because regardless if you want to benifit from your investment you will have to convert it to shekels, and thats if your lucky enough to have made enough money to quench your greed and cash out, but you are only cashing out with someone elses hard earned shekels. It just wont end well. It cannot end well. And you are a hook nosed fuck stain if you promote it here.

Not to be a noob, but what advantages does Bitcoin cash have over Bitcoin?

I don't think the forks are going to have that great of an impact over the long haul. BTC is already being traded as an asset. Supply is limiited with a termination point. Its going to eventually be like buying an expensive painting just as a way of storing value.

butthurt nocoiner detected

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You need to go back to plebbit you scum sucking fuck hole

It is more secure, more privatised and highly scalable. As time goes on and the number of tranx increases, they will increase the block size to accommodate - unlike BTC that will be stuck with maybe 2mb blocks after another upgrade. But the real difference is in the difficulty adjustment algorithm. With BTC once it is set that's it until they mine thru to the next segment of blocks, so if a big chunk of the mining pool goes down then so does the network, effectively freezing everyones bitcoin on a dead chain. BCH on the other hand, has a fluid difficulty adjustment algorithm, it can be changed at any time. If a big chunk of the miners defects, they can switch the difficulty down to ensure it is still profitable for the remaining segment of miners. BCH has much quicker tranx times and the fees are almost non-existent they are so low, pennies in the dollar opposed to like $20 a pop for BTC. It is better than bitcoin in every way and follows the original vision outlaid by Satoshi in his white paper.

LUBRICATED

SOLD

KEKKED

Holla Forums mods are compromised globalist shills who censor you if you get too close to the truth. if you post anything they disagree with, even if it's a commonly accepted opinion on Holla Forums or anything else that gets them assblasted (((like calling out shills that are literally in every single thread))), or for no real reason at all just to piss you off, they will delete all your posts and all your threads and then ban you.

question everyone until you find out who you are not allowed to question.

if it's the same for (((them))) then the Holla Forums mods are (((them))). eventually you will post something or start a thread and you will be censored and banned even if you did not break a single rule on Holla Forums. the ban reason will always be some fake fucking reason like "spam" or "unspecified reason". if you are in doubt, it isn't because this can't happen to you. it only means that it has not yet happened to you.

I am one of you, so don't bitch that you're being raided. all it takes is a look at /polmeta/ and /sudo/ to see just how many of us are being censored and banned every day by corrupt mods. the very founding reasons for Holla Forums "politically incorrect" "freedom of speech" are being torn down from above by the corrupt moderators and undermined from below by shills. because of our corrupt mods who are the biggest censorship loving sellouts in the entire world, Holla Forums is being ruined.

all that has been struggled for will be lost as Holla Forums can not function the way things are.

/polk/ is the same mods pretending to be different people. past migration efforts have all failed because we don't have the hivemind and the unity to make the move all at once. I don't care what new Holla Forums type board we all choose to migrate to but we need to make a good choice and then just make the move all together. the reason why everyone is getting banned all the time is because we have been subverted and manipulated.

who would have guessed that the very mods in charge of the board with the most freedom of speech on the entire internet that gives NO SHITS about political correctness would be some of the most CUCKED mods we have ever experienced?

this bullshit-banning has to fucking stop.

Impeach the cucked Holla Forums mods.

God bless donald trump. God bless america.

Holla Forums mods are compromised globalist shills who censor you if you get too close to the truth. if you post anything they disagree with, even if it's a commonly accepted opinion on Holla Forums or anything else that gets them assblasted (((like calling out shills that are literally in every single thread))), or for no real reason at all just to piss you off, they will delete all your posts and all your threads and then ban you.

question everyone until you find out who you are not allowed to question.

if it's the same for (((them))) then the Holla Forums mods are (((them))). eventually you will post something or start a thread and you will be censored and banned even if you did not break a single rule on Holla Forums. the ban reason will always be some fake fucking reason like "spam" or "unspecified reason". if you are in doubt, it isn't because this can't happen to you. it only means that it has not yet happened to you.

I am one of you, so don't bitch that you're being raided. all it takes is a look at /polmeta/ and /sudo/ to see just how many of us are being censored and banned every day by corrupt mods. the very founding reasons for Holla Forums "politically incorrect" "freedom of speech" are being torn down from above by the corrupt moderators and undermined from below by shills. because of our corrupt mods who are the biggest censorship loving sellouts in the entire world, Holla Forums is being ruined.

all that has been struggled for will be lost as Holla Forums can not function the way things are.

/polk/ is the same mods pretending to be different people. past migration efforts have all failed because we don't have the hivemind and the unity to make the move all at once. I don't care what new Holla Forums type board we all choose to migrate to but we need to make a good choice and then just make the move all together. the reason why everyone is getting banned all the time is because we have been subverted and manipulated.

who would have guessed that the very mods in charge of the board with the most freedom of speech on the entire internet that gives NO SHITS about political correctness would be some of the most CUCKED mods we have ever experienced?

this bullshit-banning has to fucking stop.

Impeach the cucked Holla Forums mods.

God bless donald trump. God bless america.

To sell or not to sell? That depends what you want to achieve with that kind of money, is it enough? Then sell, maybe dont sell all, its at a nice price now.

They're not, actually.

Well, the biggest flaw of bicoin is that you can buy bitcoin with shekels, you can print a lot of shekels and buy a lot of bitcoins before the banking system goes down, so those who started early and held and of course the kikes will profit, not a big solution.
You also have the other issue of a digital currency being adopted by the powers that be, then get ready to be marked with the number of the beast. If you think cryptos are "anonymous", you better think twice, they are implementing "keyloggers" and more directly at hardware level at intel.
At the end of the day, if the system wants to criminalize cryptos, they will do it just as they criminalize any political party they dont like, if they didn't ban crypto yet, its probably cause they think they can gain advantage of this or control it.
I got few BTC, not much, cryptos look like a nice try, but cant stop thinking how cryptocurrencies align themselves pretty nicely wiith the jew world order's most torrid fantasies.

Also that you are using that much electricity just to fucking mine cryptos, and the mining just goes on and on and can just get bigger, makes me want to nuke the world. So yeah, there must be an alternative to this and there will be, in the meantime some people will make some bucks and other may have more liberty, as Satoshi said, its a breeze of fresh air, maybe nothing more.

That's why its so important people start adopting proof-of-stake currencies. It's a bit more kikey in the sense that the more you have, the higher your chance of striking a block (similarly you need a lot of money to set u). Mining is just running a relay node like seeding a torrent, & can be done on a small computer like a raspberry pi or a cellphone even. I've always held an ethical objection to the nonsense of (((ethereum))) & bitcoin mining.

fuck.. gonna say you need to have money to set up an effective mining rig anyway, so proof of stake is just cutting out the middleman.

Do you have recommendations for mining hardware and videos to help with researching? I want to get into mining btc but with the little cash available to me I might get into litecoin mining

too late to the game man. ROI on mining takes fucking years now.

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I kind of suspected mining wouldn't be profitable for BTC, but are the other coins just as fucked?

too late to the game man. ROI on mining takes fucking years now.>>11008624

not sure, I haven't dabbled in mining since 2015, but even back then it just seemed like a waste of time unless you were investing in cloud mining which was usually a ponzi scheme anyway.

equihash = nvidia + CPU. All others are basically ASIC or AMD gpu dominated.
>1stminingrig.com/how-to-mine-bitcoin-gold-btg-best-mining-rig-hardware-tutorial/
Unfortunately most small-scale miners live pretty much hand-to-mouth. Its quite competitive, and the little guys are forced to sell pretty much straight away, where you want to be holding. Look into how indoor growers jump the meter, & don't quit your day job immediately.

Yeah I wouldn't trust a cloud mining contract with my life

SIEG

Thanks for the link fam. Why is it that BTG is more profitable over other forms of crypto?

LOL, I was a noob back then. I lost like $1k on that shit. The fucking asshole owner of scrypt.cc made millions off of gullible fucks like me

I just checked an old hashnest account of mine that had 1% of a bitcoin balance and it's worth $228 dollars haha, gonna withdraw that shit for xmas presents

a) has been largely ignored, only forked a few weeks ago
b) was designed to break the monopoly of the big mining factories with small scale guys in mind
Personally after looking into this stuff quite intensively, I just invested the money into a variety of stuff & made more than I would have mining anyway. Just go put $X dollars across the board roulette style and its hard to go wrong. I'm down over 90% on some I did that with, others have doubled, tripled, quadrupled and more (much more :-DD). Eventually you'll find a niche that you understand & see a future in and will lean in on it. I like to focus on stuff that has potential use in vice - anything you can buy muh weed & pills with anonymously is a surefire profit.

You guys do know you can buy stuff with cryptos everywhere thanks to tenx, right?

I recently got my tenx card and it works flawlessly here in Scandinavia, where tbh i dont need safes and fireams as my land provides food, elevtricity and water even if shit hits the fan. But I do have a gun, an old oiled up thing.

you buyfags know that yesterday valve stopped accepting bitcoin as payment in steam, right?
i also live in Scandinavia and am gently rubbing my oiled up old thing, what a goyincidence.

i am saying try to sound less like (((advertisement))) that doesn't belong here

reddit.com/r/NiceHash/comments/7i0s6o/official_press_release_statement_by_nicehash/?st=jawcs9be&sh=958d65a6

FEELS BATMAN

Just seen lots of fud about how you cannot use cryptos to buy stuff, and that is simply false, you can even use it to stock up on gold and silver. Just sayan

TROLOLOLOL

LOLOLOL

LOLOL

techcrunch.com/2017/12/06/nicehash-hack/

It continues.

What about when RSA gets cracked?

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glad i've cashed out all my profits, now that i don't have a stake in the game anymore it's gonna be fun when the bubble will pop

No, you retard. It represents death and re-birth. Hope.

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No only bitcoin fits those 3 criteria you listed

no, bitcoin is way, way too economically big for that sort of reaction.

You'll need a powerful ASIC and access to electricity.

Study the protocol very well. You need to understand in great detail how

You need to know many different concepts. My best advice is get extremely curious, learn everything you can.

Before you buy anything, use a bitcoin mining calculator to predict your earnings. Personally I always did it by hand.

Despite what other's say, mining is still possible and it's still profitable. It's just not the same as it was in the past. Before, you could just use the idle time in your GPU to sit and make money while you are away from the PC. It was like a no-brainer. Well now competition has pushed these lines. If you want to mine, you have to actually try. If you're successful and get one block solution, you'll be handsomely rewarded with ~15BTC. Good luck user and don't listen to people who discourage you. Only you can do the math and come to your own conclusions. Yes it's still possible and remember 1,800 new bitcoins are minted daily, plus every transaction fee (100+ btc daily) is rewarded to the miners. It's a huge market and it's yours for the taking.

bitcoin doesn't use RSA, so that is no problem.

Also RSA was backdoored by the NSA for $10m, as released in 2013.

14888 finex

I had a 240v outlet installed in my garage for a welder when I built my house. It is cold as fuck where I live so I could set up a rig and mine from my garage

Fuck kikecoin, and a curse on everyone who shills it for their own benefit.

yes, of course…

Read the whitepaper first
bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf

Then read this book to understand the protocol
chimera.labs.oreilly.com/books/1234000001802/index.html

And with any questions about the protocol, use this wiki
en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Main_Page

Lightning network is the next phase of bitcoin, very important to understand.
lightning.network/

And once you've mastered all of that, head to the github and follow development
github.com/bitcoin/bips

Then lastly, read every post by satoshi nakamoto
bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3;sa=showPosts

Bitcointalk has gone down the drain since it's good days, but that is where the discussions were first held. Just read everything satoshi said, then get out.

After doing all these things, you'll have a mastery of bitcoin. From here you'll, quite literally, have no more questions about the protocol and your knowledge will be on the bleeding edge of development. You'll be able to contribute to conversations on a more provoking and abstract level, and clearly and confidently see through all the bullshit splattered all over the internet and imageboards about bitcoin. I wish you all the best!

nocoiner. enjoy getting ripped off by the banks

hey man send a little of that sweet FBI $$$ my way. only got .0020
1B9aVSyjBXpzrrE9bkqyeq5E1CQDusrJVw

Multichain solved that data issue pretty well

There are several possible explanations for the fact that he doesn't mention jews:
1- He was jew unaware, not impossible, considering internet wasn't that developed in his time, etc.
2- He is jew aware but leaves it out of the picture for some reason. It could be that his theory is bigger than the jew and has to do with systems and group competition and technology itself, or he doesn't want to scare and alienate people by naming the jew.
3- He is a CIA or whatever agency asset driving radicals away from the real problem, jewish ownership of technology.

I dont know the answer to any of this, but i dont think he would have started sending bombs if he had lived in one of this 100k max population national socialist cities, within an atmosphere of reverence to nature, and so on.

In my country "the mainstream" is already doing so, and this trading platforms also, so its a bubble.

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I think you're overlooking its actual original value that people adopted it for to begin with, before it became popular enough to pay for things on Amazon with.

Privacy concurrent with online usability. BitCoin became a thing because it was the digital equivalent of handing a stranger a pile of untracable dollar bills. So it was of immediate and obvious value for shadier corners of the internet. Trading currency anonymously had previously always been a problem. BitCoin was the solution.

Except gold has value because it's exceedingly useful in medical and industrial applications.

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I never really had a future anyways, so I guess it doesnt hurt so bad.

Can't wait for the bitcoin bubble to burst.

And for some silver moon pussy

I did it for fun at the beginning of pool mining… Playing around with different overclock setting for my shitty nVIDIA.
My hard disk with 0.34 BTC (Including two hits in the original faucet at 0.02 each) committed sudoku due to a power surge. As did the flash drive I was backing up to.
I would have sold most at $500 or $1000, to be honest.

I do have ~0.0001 from hitting the faucets.
Mostly this one:
freebitco.in/?r=2467263 (Referral link)

so you still can't buy anything with bitcoin, thanks for the confirmation

Fuck, I can't believe that people are pumping insane amounts of cash into Bitcoins, brother has dumped about 30-40K into it now, didn't even know it existed this time last year.

That's quite different (and pure kikery).

Be your own man user.

It's over, Bitcoin is dead this time, trust us goy!

I feel a bit of the same way, I was never really on board with the idea, since it was was so insecure, I remember people posting on 4/pol/ years ago about how it was getting hacked and wallets completely emptied and people out millions of dollars.

If I would have had 1-2 grand to dump into just to see where it'd go when it was 50 bucks or more I would have. But nowadays, it's so fucking high I might as well buy stock in Apple, Google, or commodities which is safer an I can turn into dollars the next day.

This is false. Retards with viruses on their PCs were getting their wallets and passwords stolen, or crypto exchanges were going bust due to hackers. The Bitcoin protocol, the blockchain itself, remains a completely secure and functional entity. In 2010 I expected someone to find a coin duplication glitch or something that would bring it all down, but years later with billions of dollars on the line that still has yet to occur. That's the power of countless layers of encryption and decentralization.

The closest (((they))) have come to duplicating coins is causing the hard fork in August that split into what is technically a new crypto called Bitcoin Cash. If you had 10 Bitcoin for example, then after the fork you now have 10 Bitcoin and 10 Bitcoin Cash. Their prices are different, but one still spawned from the other.

do you think this is organic or planed phasing out of paper money for something Orwellian at best and Kafkaesque at its worst

also
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bitcoins current moon is coinciding with with op dirty money

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But, you're paying somebody in bitcoins to go buy something with Dollars, because he can't use your bitcoins to buy it?

What's the fucking point of using bitcoins then and doing all that extra hassle, instead of just using my own account and cutting out a middle man, because I know some random guy isn't going to do it without a fee of some kind.

>purse.io/shop
nice

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LOL you're a fucking idiot.

You're being a moron on purpose I think.

user is saying that his friend has never had to work due to having rich parents and with daddy's money bought some "internet stuff" stuff when it wasn't outrageous to buy, just like a trust fund kid has everything given to him. I'm not saying that's good or bad but neither one of them actually "worked" for it, they simply had it handed to them due to luck.

user, had the want to invest, but did not have the ability to do so, when you don't have a lot of money but to do things every penny counts for much more, maybe he could have cut some things here and there to save up, we don't know but to imply that he is whining for the sake of it is missing his point.

user's friend took ZERO fucking risk from what user has told us, his rich father gave him money to blow on something he'd never heard of, and he got lucky.

Also you should never actually have to cash out, since you can use bitcoin for almost everything.

with lightning network the network scales to billions of transactions per second.

Also, just in case there's a coinillionare on here watching this thread, 1Kn7FzwoEBAoa28FE7wn86NY6LuSFHq5mL spare a little love for a man with a beautiful white family. If I earn a reasonable amount I intend to have several more kids.

I work in programming and understand the block-chain software intrinsically. I've been helping others hobby mine for years but never had the finances to build my own rig as I've been raising a beautiful blonde, blue eyed daughter.

A lot of companies are paying top dollar for bitcoin integration into their payment systems. All the extra wealth is going to cause a lot of demand for products which can cause inflation for the USD. What if bitcoin market exceeds world GDP in 3 years?

by then it won't matter, currency will vanish and everyone will just pay with bitcoin.

checked
this is the purpose of bitcoin
that and start the world fire sale
in the end the "market makers" will pick their "coin of the realm"
we will live to see the rise of the GlobalFEDCoin
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Where can I buy some of those silver reichmarks. Silver seems like a good container for holding value right now.

Three is bare minimum user. Semi-shitposting aside, do you know of a good resource for setting up a monero and NXT wallet and begin mining?

It did not have any value until recent history.

Man, that's getting kind of pathetic. Stop trying to get the gibsmedat. You didn't invest, get over it like everyone else who didn't.

top tier shitpost

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no
and yes your right, its pathetic. i know

He would have not preferred it over the reichsmark, but he had the benefit of removing jews from his financial system. Compared to private Rothschild central banks, bitcoin is a no brainer.

Whether the coin itself was at risk was not what kept me out, it was that the structure around it was totally unreliable and shady at the time. Online wallet services were just closing down, and taking everybody's money, without any consequence whatsoever or getting hacked.

Yes, the damn sourcecode, lol.

Get the wallet FROM THE DEVELOPERS and back it up on your computer. PRINT MANNNNYYYY COPIES OF YOUR PRIVATE KEYS AND STORE THEM IN A SAFE PLACE.

DO NOT USE AN EXCHANGE.

Then pick a RBPPS pool, or just hit solomine and hope to get lucky and throw you video cards/cpu at it. That's really it fam.

github.com/monero-project/monero

Trips of semi-truth. LITERALLY THE ONLY THING THAT HAS EVER GONE WRONG WITH CRYPTO WAS IDOITS TRUSTING THIRD PARTY SERVICES BECAUSE THEY CAN'T INTO COMPUTERS AND RUN THE WALLET THEMSELVES.

do i have to give all my fucking information out to buy the fucking things? if not im in. thats whats stopping me from getting a piece of this action. i want to get some crypto just to trade with for shits and giggles (love me some high volatility), but i absolutely refuse to give coinbase kikes my information.

are there any exchanges that dont require me to scan my fucking photo id, my goy certificate, and upload a picture of me with a gun held to my firstborn?

Yes, but they can still be misleading. The exchange that I started using specifically because they didn't need all of that verification bullshit is now randomly demanding a picture of my ID before I can withdraw the hundreds of dollars I've made with it.

is this a common occurrence for this exchange or do you think youre being singled out because they are trying to keep an eye on you? we all know the IRS is a kikesnest and i could definitely see them getting antsy with all these people cashing out simultaneously. they want their fucking tax shekels. just seems silly if you only are cashing out a couple hundred bucks.

also, cant you simply move the crypto you have to a wallet and cash it out from there on your own? asking, because im pretty new to this concept of cashing out (seems all crypto-zillionaires just sit on their coins and never cash out, and at this point, cant say i blame em).

what was the exchange if you dont mind me asking?

so where is the sink for bitcoin?
how do they go away?

They don't go away. Why would they need to?

LOLOLOL you dumb fucking idiots. BTC is in a huge bubble right now. Just wait for these dumb fucking normies buying shit they don't understand to start selling. We are going to see a correction back to 10k

to sustain it as a form of currency

lets be honest now, bitcoin is only soaring because more and more people are buying into the hype of get rich quick

what happens when the price starts to stagnate and people all try to sell it?
or even worse what happens when there is a correction and everyone panic sells?

pretty sure the correction will drop way lower than 10k, and as a result everyone will desperately try to sell

Do you know what the word shill means?

You are aware that bitcoins can't be produced indefinitely, right?

Remember when btc crashed from 300 to 50. I do. BTC has crashed 20-50% multiple times. What makes you think we aren't in for a another market crash when the only people buying btc right now are stupid normies trying to make a quick buck. You've got nigger janitors talking about crypto's and think these levels are going to stick. Its not going to happen. My guess is it will hit 30k and drop like a rock.

Good post.

You mean like all the shilling MSM has done for btc in the past couple days. gains of 100% are to be expected when btc is 20 dollars, not when its 10k.

whats a good wallet?

Learn the difference between numismatic verses bullion. I am a new fry into silver recently and I chose the path of Bullion bars. I hate coins. Avoid anything called "German Silver" which is an alloy. Buy from a reputable source get.999

It's a ponzi.

this is exactly why i want to get an exchange and wallet all set up and ready to go. i fucking make a living off of buying up normies fear, just in the stock market, not the crypto market. but the gains in the crypto arena are too big to overlook, especially after all these faggots try to jump ship at the same time. i love fear. i buy fear. i am fear.

so i ask again, does anyone know of an exchange that doesnt require me to scan a picture of my goy certificate in order to purchase crypto?

even fucking better. ill ride the bulltrap like im surfing the kali yuga. i know better than to let greed get the best of me

just increase VAT if you want more money than what the printing presses print out

my last post. bitcoin is a transfer of wealth. if you study history, economics, or banking you would understand this.

as SIMPLY as possible, because I see a lot of people derailing with rants:
The One percent capitalists of this country want SOCIALISM because it would make them richer…they want ABSOLUTE control over people as masters to slaves.

they intend to make everyone debt slaves with central banking.

the solution is a transfer of FAIR currency…for people to mine at a reasonable rate of speed and because wealthy IN RELATION to others.

I know this because I read BOOKS.

bitcoin will slowly become a worse and worse oppurtunity for people

thats what bit bay is for right?
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Just sold my house 3 weeks ago and bought 8 BTC today.
When should I cash out bros? I don't want to be a dirty bag holder.

Any exchange that doesn't ask for your id is sketchy as fuck. You could buy crypto for cash with mycelium. You can just buy btc and put it into an exchange that doesn't accept USD like bitfinex.

Here, take this. It has a list of all the exchanges and cryptos.

coinmarketcap.com/coins/views/all/

I hope you use your gains to further the cause.

kek

see

hope, whos hope
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i dont really understand how it works

You are assuming the people currently throwing money into btc are throwing their money into it as an alternative to USD. They aren't. They are putting money into it for USD gains. They hardly understand what btc even is.

I'm still holding long but this little rally is going to come crashing down soon.

they fucked up; they prepared us for a controlled enslavement using digital money. Suddenly there was uncontrolled money.
Gee…by the way do you see those sheep escaping from the farm ??

so what is an anonymous way for me to purchase from this exchange? i would like to not directly use a bank account in my name ideally, but if i have to, id rather wire it, than give any exchange my bank account info (seeing as they all end up getting hacked eventually).

thanks a lot user. i know i sounded kinda kikey with all that "buy fear" talk (thats just how it is when you trade for a living), but i assure you, i would like nothing more than to help my fellow Holla Forumsacks.

hell, if i ever do end up a 6 gorillionaire, ive always fantasized about using my theoretical fortunes to short israeli corporations into ash. sounds comfy, doesnt it?

literally this

once it starts to slow down, people will start to sell,,, everyone will start to sell and it sounds like its kinda hard to sell even now

Then don't post dumb things before looking up the most basic of information about the subject.
A certain number of bitcoins exist, this number is mathematically fixed. By spamming calculations, the short version is that bitcoin miners find what these coins are, and lay claim to them. This process has become quite difficult as fewer and fewer remain each day. When the maximum number are found, there can be no more. None are added, though many have already been lost and will continue to be lost to people losing wallet credentials.

Pasting from the other dead crypto thread.

Bitcoin and crypto in general is really appealing compared to our current system. It is here to stay and I'm sure the value will continue to increase, and you can get rich off of it if you pick the winning crypto or just trade properly during this period. That being said, cryptos are not a way to "take down the banks", or "give power to the people".

Bitcoin will probably become the main crypto because it has the most backing, the most name recognition, and the most involvement by financial industry players and alphabet agencies. (((Satoshi Nakamoto))) (probably not even a real person, just some conglomeration of alphabet agency big wigs, financial elites, and/or bloodline elites) has the power to destroy the market at any time. Literally one person, or group of people, whose identity is completely (((unknown))) not only has the power to control the market singlehandedly, but is also being enriched beyond compare by the rise in the value of Bitcoin. When you participate in Bitcoin, you are just creating the new Rothschild ruling class, only this time, you won't even get to know who they are because they're hidden behind the Satoshi Nakamoto lie, and of course, they are in all likelihood, the exact same people who make up the current Rothschild ruling class.

But that problem is unique to Bitcoin and other currencies in which one actor already has complete, overriding control over the market. Suppose another crypto wins out and becomes the most widely adopted, and suppose there is no Satoshi Nakamoto for this crypto. Consider the fact that whatever blockchain you're running has absolutely been hacked and/or will be hacked as soon as it becomes important. Yes I've seen the run downs on how you would need a perfectly efficient CPU the size of the sun in order to crack the Bitcoin blockchain. It's absurd to believe that the most advanced technology is publicly disclosed, and equally absurd to analyze the possibility of cracking blockchains, working from that assumption. Many of you here understand that the rabbit hole goes vastly, vastly deeper than a normal worldview and a standard physics and ontology can accommodate. For those of you who understand this, the idea that all important blockchains have been and/or will be hacked should be a forgone conclusion.

In short. Yes you can get rich if you do the right things right now. Yes crypto is here to stay. No it's not a way out of the elite controlled value system. It's their new system, in which they will become anonymous and even more powerful. By all means, try to get rich. It would be useful and a lot of fun. But have no illusions about what this system is.

you literally can give some dude cash after he sticks them in your wallet stored on your laptop.

so how is the information stored? whats stopping people from editing their wallets?

none of those. BitcoinQT or mayyyybe mycellium.

PAPER is the best wallet. Your private key is your coins.

I here you do it through "Vanilla" cards in 500$ increments…. alil impractical now

can you make a thread on how to trade stocks, such as platforms to use.
now to get better leverage. tierII i think its called?
best times to cash in on fud?

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SHA-256 or some other even tougher algo, twice.

The whole point of it is to prevent editing. The ledger is perfect by design, and it allows you to send wealth anywhere in the world with absolute perfect record that the money was both sent and received.

youtube.com/watch?v=bBC-nXj3Ng4

perhaps, but i know goddamn well that there are a shit load of Holla Forumsacks who got in on this shit in like 2012. if the new rothschilds are comprised of a bunch of NEET imageboard dwellers, id be the happiest man in the world.

←- hes right

TEMBA, his arms wide
github.com/pointbiz/bitaddress.org/archive/v3.3.0.zip

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It really, really isn't.

In fact, it's easier. There's people wanting to get into bitcoin that consider 10k a drop in the bucket. If you tell them you have bitcoins, show them how to make a wallet and transfer them the coins with the cash on the table, and you both sit and have a beer while they confirm, then he gives you the money and walks away. That's it.

that's total bullshit becuase anyone can run bitcoin QT or become a pool or mine.

FAGGOT CUCK
DID YOU EVEN LEARN ABOUT BITCOIN AT ALL ?

i really like the idea. as well as how the mere name adolfcoin will keep normies away from investing in it. this mass rush of speculation on BTC is bound to break it at some point. as soon as the correction hits all the exchanges are going to get DDoSed to death by normies panic selling.

You didn't read closely. The new ruling financial elite will not be the bitcoin millionares who got in at the right time. It is the people who are calling themselves Satoshi Nakamoto, the people who have owned huge portions of the currency from its inception and were probably behind its creation. It's the exact same people who occupy that position in the current system. They made the new system. They control it from the get go. You can get rich by normal standards. You can't become one of them.

Yeah. I know a lot about it. This kind of response is pretty clear evidence that the push for Bitcoin on Holla Forums right now is not organic. If you have arguments against the concerns I posted about, post them. The concerns I raised are legitimate and systemic.

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im sorry if i said something retarded. i trade stocks not crypto, so a lot of this stuff is new to me. i simply figured that the people who got in the earliest would be the richest, and the first place i ever heard of this stuff was Holla Forums.

so, again i apologize if i sound like a faggot. im simply trying to learn what i can from other anons who know more about this stuff than me.

i understand mining, but what exactly is a "pool"?

a group of miners

The entire point of crypto is to get more people involved. A crypto nobody wants is useless. The issue here is not btc gaining normie attention. Thats actually a very good thing. The issue here is that normies are buying btc for USD profits, not as a replacement for USD. They only invest in btc in the hopes that it will make them more USD. In essence they are still slaves to the jews and still have the slave mindset. This is what is going to cause a correction in btc very soon. A very large correction.

What we need is a normie population that truly believe in the btc project, not the fags who are buying to make a quick buck right now.

fuck off kike
At least bitcoin would lead to a better GINI curve compared to central banking.

satoshi from chicago

hes right tho

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hes right tho

EE here, you can also just voltage split off a washing machine port.

Youre only using a computer, which is like 1kW at max. 240mA pull, so its no big deal. Also, that 240V outlet is 240V RMS, meaning that a rectifier is more effecient than if its a 240V sine wave (I think). Look into doing a 2:1 impedance transform to half the voltage before hooking up your computer.

This bitcoin stuff is super interesting. Thinking I might find a way to harvest some power during the night time (24/7 uni access maybe? Also apartment complexes have power all night in the hallways, which can also get me some profit)
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i cant wait. like i said before, i make my living buying up fear and panic.

on a somewhat unrelated note, ive noticed that with the meteoric rise of BTC this last week, much of the volume has dried up on most of the altcoins. i can imagine, since cashing out will be nigh impossible in a panic sell type situation, that many will try to move their crypto equity to another coin and try to weather the storm from the sidelines. does anyone have any insight into what coins have proven reliable during a large scale BTC correction? obviously we havent seen one on such a scale, but i distinctly remember after it hit $1k that it macheted back to around $200.

bitcoin

I just made a wallet

Can some user transfer me like 5 cents worth of bitcoin so i can see if mine works?

do you mean that if bitcoin falls, the entire altcoin marketplace will go with it?

faggot
bitcoin won't fail

Make an argument. You're outing yourself. Posters note: the posters telling you to dive in to Bitcoin are unnaturally desperate to shape your opinion of it. I didn't even tell you not to participate in Bitcoin or other cryptos in my post. I endorsed any attempt to get rich off cryptos and stated my opinion that they are here to stay. But I raised serious problems that they don't want you thinking about:

Concerning Bitcoin specifically: Satoshi Nakamoto is in all likelihood just a pseudonym for some conglomeration of Rothschild types. They control the market and are the primary beneficiaries of the adoption of Bitcoin.

Concerning crypto in general: if you have an understanding of the gap between publicly disclosed tech and what's actually possible, it's pretty clear that any crypto that becomes important already has been or will be hacked.

You are stepping into a system of complete tracking, arbitrary denial of funds to undesirables (blockchains are hackable, but the general public will not believe they are. When the ledger is edited to reset your wallet balance to zero as punishment for wrongthink, there will be no recourse. The blockchain says you have zero. Therefore you have zero because the blockchain is infallible.), and a new level of power for those in control of this system (i.e. (((Satoshi Nakamoto))), i.e. the same people who run the current system).

From all possibilities I can see, cryptos are the inevitable near future. But you should at least try to participate in ones that you believe are less prone to the problems I have explained.

good luck

its a big possibility, quite likely actually

not bothering to actually read my post
At least bitcoin would lead to a better GINI curve compared to central banking.

Can you go deeper into this?

Shills made bitcoin go up to 17,000 $ as central banking stooges remain dependent on sucky fake money.

Satoshi's Vision was that of basically giving the banks the middle finger.
Because with bitcoin YOU decide what you spend your money on.
No bailouts, no taxes, no inflation, no manipulation.

he can't because he is full of shit.
if it can be hacked it wouldn't be a blockchain, but rather another form of SQL like database.

Bitcoin is going to have to collapse to a reasonable price sooner or later. Right now Bitcoin is in a deflationary spiral because everyone is holding on the their Bitcoins and creating a scarcity of Bitcoins.

As the price rises, people will start selling their Bitcoins and putting more into circulation, and when the price drops, it will drop hard.

Make the money while you can. When Bitcoin starts falling, you won't be able to cash out because no one will want to buy.

dont be so touchy. i didnt say fail, i said fall. i was talking in regards to a correction that obviously will happen now that there is a flood of normies looking to speculate on it

why though? there are so many of them, it seems that the bagholders would simply shift their equity from BTC once it starts correcting into a different coin to try and minimize profit loss. even if BTC DOES someday crashnburn, i sincerely doubt that blockchain currency and the general idea of cryptocurrency would just disappear. its too useful and clearly it DOES work (much to the kikes dismay).

valuable insight
idk but im looking into this token on the eth chain
powerledger.io/media/Tips-for-beginners.pdf
i think the auzzies are gonan be the first to make the switch into this Orwellian nightmare

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Go check it out, it's not on any exchanges, there is a plan for an anonymous marketplace to be implemented at some point in the near future. it's fairly easy to mine and very decentralized in that anybody can create a fork and the community basically decides which fork to go with ( or at least thats how I understand it, and im basically retarded when it comes to crypto)

You're accusing me of being a shill. Make an argument that anything I've posted is false. I agree there are positive aspects of the crypto systems compared to our current system and I've stated that in all of my posts.

I'm not saying I know how to hack a blockchain. I don't. I'm saying that if you have a decent picture of how far ahead non-public technology is, it's absurdly naive to believe that blockchains are unhackable or that the kind of people who pumped the value of bitcoin initially by adopting it for massive transactions in criminal markets, and who are probably the people hiding behind the name "Satoshi Nakamoto", i.e. human traffickers and massive international criminal syndicates, i.e., the ruling class, i.e. Rotschilds, et. al., would have done so without already having the means to control whatever system they decided to roll out.

1. (((central bankers))) have a modern feudal system with huge inequality (top 0.001 % has half of the 'money').
2. They can have it, because there is a better money in town: Bitcoin.
Where the top Addresses (satoshi's 996,000 BTC ) contain about 5% supply.
So you tell me, what is the price of releasing the people from the claws of fiat printing press wielding maniacs?

kek
sorry bud but i dont have any BTC for ya. thats why im asking so many questions, im a no coiner, but i trade for a living and am very much interested in this whole market.

just looking to learn from anons who are more educated on this subject than i

The same way btc is currently reliant on USD all crypto's are reliant on btc. For the most part you have to use btc to trade crypto's. Typically crypto's follow btc.

ETH and lTC are other alternatives that are widely popular (mostly because of coinbase). I believe bitcoin cash will also be tradable on coinbase soon as well. Do not take my word for it and do your own research but I believe Dash is one of the more popular coins in Europe.

coinmarketcap.com

This website has everything you need. Volume, exchanges, charts, share of crypto markets ect ect.

$18.278.20 USD (26.16%)

yeah im worse that a nocoiner
my mining riggfrom back when you could do it on fucking cpus was in my trunk when i was "moving"…long story short my first car was towed,no money to pay lot fees, leaving me broke with 50+btc in the trunk…makes me sick

can you make a thread on /biz/ on what platform you use, and how to get setup?

… if your question is what the implications of a crypto's blockchain being hackable would be, see:

A blockchain is a ledger of transactions. Crypto's are valuable because they provide a middleman-free exchange system in which trust is completely taken out of the equation, as long as the blockchain can't be "hacked" - edited to reflect transactions and balances that did not occur / are not accurate. If the ledger can be edited then the situation is as described in the greentext above - there is a ledger of transactions, regarded as infallible by the system and by the general public, and the ruling class actually has the ability to alter that ledger as they please, i.e., to add or remove any amount to or from any wallet at any time, without even the slightest suspicions falling on them because everyone knows the ledger is unhackable and therefore must be correct.

I think you're either missing a word somewhere or you need to re-read my posts and actually comprehend them. What you posted doesn't engage with the problems I raised.

unintentional sage

i probably will get some of them. i really like the idea. seems like its what crypto should actually be. with all the jews, bigboy bank goys, and normies getting in on the BTC boom (and me being late to the party) it seems the only logical thing i can do is try and plan ahead for what will happen in the event of a mass normie panic sell catastrophe. something with the furhrers name on it is bound to be invulnerable to such idiotic speculation, so i have no doubt that it will be useful in such an event.

again, though, i have to ask: where do anons who have a lot of crypto plan on moving their funds to in the event of a large correction in BTC price? or do you all just hold through it and buy up (if this was stocks this is what id do) the cheap ones?

how many address should I generate? just one?

KEK'ed hard
is that a script to use your comp to mine btc while on the page?

hell, sounds like the backbone of promisedchan right there

well for a multitude of reasons
this is inevitable seeing as how often shit breaks
this creates more doubt. like i myself wouldnt want to keep my money in my hard drive, some shit happens to my OS and all of it is gone lets be real now, how many people are keeping their CC in a dedicated drive? hell even if it isnt gone think of all the exploits you will be seeing?
normie gives his bootlooping computer to get it fixed
guy takes all his coins and formats the computer "oops nothing i could have done"
people dont even know what "the cloud" actually is, they think the internet just exists and its likely many think that their bitcoins are stored in this nonexistent cloud, rather than on their hard drives
lets face it, the public looks at altcoins as bullshit wannabe bitcoins

and the two most important reasons

hell, even i would look at bitcoin as a stock rather than as a currency and i trade for a living but the thing with stocks is that youre buying a fragment of a company that almost like an organism moves, grows and shrinks, whereas with this youre buying a stagnant cryptocurrency
no normie looks at it as an actual currency, hell they dont even look at it as a way to exchange physical money.

you think they arent doing it now because they are scared?
well maybe South Korea is

Bitcoin has a group have cult-like believers, even in a sell-off i don't think it will loose it's value completely, it may stabilize or be a constant rollercoaster ride of speculation, I'm avoiding parking too much money in it, i put 98 CAD
in and am having fun watching it, but if it doesn't stabilize I cant see its usefulness as a form of payment as it will be basically e-gold without the intrinsic value of physical metal.

tl;dr
Doubt
heavy heavy doubt

shit breaks because the design failed to function according to specification.
It is a result of (((their))) central banking / planned obsolescence way of fucking you and your family over perpetually under an old world regime.

yep, official UFC page had a miner.

lmao
Imagine 10 million people mining for a few hours.

pivx.org/

Private
Secure
Energy Lite

HAHAHAHAH
that's funny, user

i just came to a realization

im a naysayer in bitcoin but i strongly believe that a universal cryptocurrency is in fact the future however that future is not now

what you guys really want is a value tagged on your person. sure phones and computers we are tied to, but not as conveniently as we would like.
something where you can at a swipe of your hand pay for your transaction, whether at the store or online. nothing would be more secure, you would never lose your money.

fact of the matter is that bitcoin is the Virtual boy of cryptocurrency version 1.1 and as a general rule of thumb in tech version 3.0 is where you start to see success

ADA sounds interesting, but i still think that its version 1.3. if it survives the bitcoin crash and from what i have heard it should survive it. thats going to take the market as the next big and probably real thing

I have a headlamp and a 240v outlet in my garage
Ready to mine from home with results

also forgot to mention quantum computers will soon be on the rise. good luck keeping your SKs secret then

If that isn't the most brazenly jewish thing I've ever read on Holla Forums….

Quantum knew you were going to type that before you did

All the "real" crypocurrencies will be rolled out by nation states and considered legal tender. It's already starting:

reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-economy/enter-the-petro-venezuela-to-launch-oil-backed-cryptocurrency-idUSKBN1DX0SQ

The only hole Bitcoin fills is as a black market currency. If something like this petro-coin can fill its place then it's a goner .

PIVX is the actual first POS Zerocoin
Best for the black market TBH

Bitcoin is too traceable. Even if you mix it, they can just get exchanges to ban all coins that have gone into mixers.
Monero is the new black market favorite.

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hold up..
we just got handed down the fire of man from the Gods and you want to skip civilization building and go straight for zero point energy?
There will be no replacement for bitcoin. It is a very unique 'thing'. Because any other word lacks the descriptive powers.

dear fucking god. well i cant blame ya for begging then.

as to your inquiry on my setup, i really dont think you want to take my advice on how to trade stocks. all in all im a total noob who has managed to eek out a modest (read: waaaaaaay more than i could ever hope to earn being a wagecuck with no college education, but still, modest) living by gambling with my life savings.

i use the free versions of think or swim and TC2000 to do my own technical analysis, look for things with huge volume, lots of buzz in the boiler room, relatively predictable price action, and a bullish trend. then i use my technical analysis and various indicators to plan a logical entry point, calculate a safe amount of acceptable loss, set my stoploss there, and ride it up for as long as i see the short term trend sustaining.

one of the best bits of advice i can tell you is this: buy fear and sell greed. when everyone is panicking, wait for the bottom, look for some bullish momentum, wait for the pullback, and THEN buy it. also in regards to news coverage on the companies you invest in: when you hear GOOD news, you SELL as many people will take the opportunity of a short term boost to take profit. when there is BAD news, look for the bottom and BUY in. bad news is a traders wet dream as it gives you an opening for a new position.

as for what you should use as a broker, many beginners use robinhood as there is no commission fee for trades, and the interface is very simple and user friendly. i dont use it however, because of the amount of time it takes to transfer money into an out of the account, and like i said, i live off of my profits, so being unable to access my funds quickly is impossible for me.

i hope this was of some help to you

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Monero is actually used on black markets though.

read that and sighed out "ah fuck" out loud before even reading the "its already starting"

please add me on something so i can show you this in a year or two and laugh in your face

XMR is the one im really interested in getting. it seems that since it is actually used for transactions, it will be the most robust in terms of surviving a widespread crypto crash. if BTC gets blown up because of mass speculation, the only coins that will be left with any value are the ones that are actually being used as currency.

am i right in this assumption, or way off base? im trying to apply what i know about how commodities work to something that is obviously very different, so please correct me if im wrong

You are correct, but you need to determine what the price of XMR would be based only on its use as a currency and without all the rampant speculation that has been driving up cryptocoin prices (particularly bitcoins).
Much of Monero's value could be speculation too.
For this reason, I'm always hesitant to invest in any coin and want to get back into mining like I was doing three years ago.

What will my .023 be worth in a year hypothetically?

anyone a successful day trader?

if you dont mind my asking, what coins did you use to mine? and which ones are you planning to mine?

i, being an outsider in this sport, was always led to believe that the barrier to entry for mining at this point was too high to simply just start doing it

You can mine certain coins. People are embedding scripts into websites to use visitors' CPUs to mine Monero. Monero is my favorite at the moment, it will give more privacy from agencies like the IRS who want to tax your magic internet shekels.

You're being played here.
This will be the new system of banking. Preferable to the old (due to finite inflation), but still largely controlled by (((them))). Even with Lightning Network as functional, with such a small blocksize the fees to transfer on/off Lightning will be tremendous in the event of mass adoption.
Like everything else that's on its way to being revolutionary, Bitcoin is now being turned into controlled opposition. Invest, make money, but be careful. Bitcoin is not becoming what Satoshi intended it to be.

hell if i know, the fact of the matter is that once all the normies have saturated the market and it starts to see a little bit of a consistent downtrend, its going to be a long and painful roller coaster ride down

i daytrade but with real stocks

This user 'might' be correct. If not, then an alt-coin will probably take its place.
But Bitcoin (BTC) will probably never scale in a decentralized manner.
(((They're))) doing well:

Golly gee truly the currency of the future.

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You are implying that any of these kikecoins wouldn't have the same fate, which they all will due to their inherent nature of having maximum number of coins rigidly limited.

i already covered why the altcoins (except maybe ADA) are going to fall along with bitcoin

That is not the problem. The problem is scalability as it relates to transaction capacity. Any coin can, potentially, be almost infinitely divisible.

this is EXACTLY what ive been trying to say ITT. it will be the best point of entry imaginable after the dust has settled. i would like a position in all of this, but i cant justify making an entry when its moving so fast with so many short term profit takers pumping it this hard. theyre going to fucking break it if they keep acting this retarded

A dollar is infinitely divisible. Physical cash isn't, but as a currency it is. In fact it has been a common practice for decades to compute banking operation amounts to dozens of zeroes past decimal point, it's just at the transaction time the value is rounded so it can be possibly carried out using physical cash - which of course it doesn't have to.

Speaking of capacity. Let's say some transaction system is to be used as a worldwide system for the kikecoins. And let's say every person in the world makes one transaction a day, which is about right, that makes it 8 billion per day. Obviously it needs to be future proof so let's make it 15 billion. And another 15 billion transactions are made involving no individuals, between businesses. That makes it 30 billion transactions a day, or ~347200 transactions per second. A system that can't be scaled up to that capacity cannot even hope to become dominant.

given that it doesn't collapse entirely yeah exactly, i even intend on investing if this is the case
the momentum will still somewhat be there before it drops again

This. Guy wasn't a nigger, but I'd hit the local McDonalds at 3am a week ago during a late-night trading session, and was literally talking to the the cleaner there about Bitcoin. He'd heard of it. That was my signal to get out soon. The recent shilling by MSM and the resultant buying frenzy, coupled with introduction of Bitcoin futures on the 10th and 18th sealed the deal. I cashed out 50% yesterday to hedge. When this fucker corrects; and it will, soon; I'll buy back in at a significant discount. I'm expecting $8k, or even less if institutional capital REALLY wants to find where the true support level of the market is.

You can buy silver reichsmarks off ebay, look for someone with good feedback (obviously). They've been generally assayed to be 90% silver, so not 'sterling', which is what I think means. I wouldn't buy them for the scrap value though, I just want to be buying zyklon with silver swastikas when the apocalypse comes.
LIKE A BAWS

Also if you're not leveraging your crypto gainz into cool shit, why even live..?

everything i needed to point me in the right direction thank you

this is why ive been trying to get actual cryptotraders thoughts as to what the most resilient crypto currencies are. i know there is going to be a huge opportunity here for the trade of a lifetime, and i have no doubt that even in the event of total BTC meltdown (which like you said, with so many short term profit-taking normies, is inevitable) the concept of blockchain currency will live on. the only question is which one will it be?

100% case of Hindsight is 20/20 but I Remember the first crash and it was a fun time.
I want a complete global economic collapse tbh.

also, talk to this guy im certain he will have much better advice for you than i did. hopefully what i said will still be of some help to you, but i really just know the basics. whereas hes an actual daytrader

Bitcoin now has bigger capitalizaiton than Russian ruble and many other small currencies, already a 70% crash will send ripples through the world economy. I'd bet $100 that it will pass $200k point before the next christmas if it doesn't fails altogether, at which point it will have capitalization rivaling that US dollar, then it's regression will crash world economy with no survivors.

I spent 4 bitcoins on designer drugs back when I was a degenerate faggot in 2012. I cannot even begin to describe how much of a fucking loser I feel like.

We all remember a story of a guy that bought a pizza for 10 000 bitcoins. But what about the guy who sold a pizza for 10 000 bitcoins? What happened to him and all of these coins?

one of the 2c-whatevers? those things were fucked up, you couldnt pay me enough to get me to try some fucked up synthetic lsd-mescaline hybrid wannabe chemical clusterfuck.

given that he was a pizza guy, he probably bought a bunch of weird designer drugs like this other user

I've been shilling it for weeks, (don't think anyone listened though..) but NXT is up over 900% for the month, bitcoin is "only" up 114% in the same time. Shrugs.

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did anyone eles read that w/echos

yeah prettymuch, blockchain is here to stay. what we are experiencing now would probably be a bittersweet way of popularizing/introducing crypto. im still worried what will happen to the stock market when btc starts to plummet

my thoughts on the matter are vague because i havent learned about all the altcoins but i have looked into is cardano, the practices of the team are not only professional but they are looking towards the future, trying to appeal to governments, making the currency scaleable and literally trying to make a universal currency that is able to make transactions between different kinds of crypto easily and efficiently. yeah i understand futureproofing is a buzzword but from what i know btc was made without the forethought

another thing to think about is any crypto directly aimed at the black market. now that crypto will be more widely accepted, i expect the value of those kinds of currency to go up possibly exponentially because it will be easier to liquidate

Sign me up fam

on a side note, has anyone mapped the silkroad wallet transactions?

Go be a degenerate somewhere else.

Fuck that shit, I run test, tren, deca & slam bkdma in the weekends. I'm a frontliner.