MOBA FPS

i recall a couple more of thse not-Mobas fps

but the names escape me

Trying too hard to fit in there.
If you really wanted to fit in though try not defending bad games.

There are too many to count.
I remember there being one where you play as a punk rocker girl fighting the evil corporations and Bethesda is also make a shitty team based game.

Where was my >(1), user?

More like Unborn

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Are you arguing it is worse than CoD and its clones? Because at least these have color and I can masturbate to them, CoD just spawned a bunch of mall ninjas.

Hi shill.

What kind of contrarian faggots go on Reddit?
People from Holla Forums?

Duh, they're the same people who use terms like "MOBA", "ASSFAGGOTS", and "CRAPCUNTS" unironically like the redditfags they are.

I need a drink.

I'm sorry user. Dota-clones. Does that stop your sperging?

It doesn't, all it does is describe the person who uses it as an idiot

Aeon of Strife clones, since that was the original Starcraft map and gamemode that spawned DOTA and LoL

I mean masturbating to the porn is the easiest way that you can turn around and get a good understanding to something. Like if you can really masturbate to it, then you can really keep your mind clear to perfectely analyze it. I always trust the word of a man whose bee jerking it to something. Except it may be consistent but overwatch has an ugly art style

also

user I don't like when a company's marketing team becomes the term either but the battle is lost they're called MOBAs now.

As for this thread I wouldn't say that is the new FPS taking over modern warfare. So far the only game that has actually sold well is Overwatch which is a Blizzard game. So it would have sold well regardless because Blizzard fans are a cult. Hell those faggots are now attacking Paladins for "ripping off" Blizzard. Not saying this won't be the case but I think it's a Little too early to call.

No he wants you to use the official Gabe-coined Valve term 'ARTS' or Arena Real-Time-Strategy, to properly give the games the title of strategy game like they so aptly deserve.

It's alright if you don't get it, user.

Like?

I thought it was action real time strategy

What pic?

everything you've posted

It only takes one game to be successful for a million people to copy it.
Look how many clones there are. It doesn't matter if the rest all flop they will keep trying.
This is the same for all the games that tried to copy lol and failed.

So far it seems like you are mad I used the wrong marketing term to describe dota like games

Yeah if it isn't Reddit ASSFAGGOTS is a hlafchan thing. I've only seen it used here to mock the term, I have no idea about CRAPCUNTS though I only saw that shit yesterday for the first time on this board.

No I'm disappointed I share this board with someone who is intellectually dishonest and spouts lies about things while also being a faggot OP.

Yeah while there were tons of fucking LoL clones it only lasted for like 2 years and most of them never even got properly released or died immediately afterwards. The Modern Warfare shit lasted forever so I don't think you can compare it to that shit… yet.

What lies user?
Is anything I said about Overwatch and it's clones not true?

League nore dota are very fun games, they both do basically nothing for me. What's the appeal of these games anyways? I gave both of those about 10 hours, and still nothing. I didn't enjoy overwatch or battleborne either. Am I just getting old and I now hate everything?

Yes
Magazines do not have infinite ammo and you do have to reload. The only thing infinite is total ammo count and when has that ever mattered in any FPS that wasn't a mil-sim shooter?
This isn't even true in the slightest for any of the games in the OP.
False again especially in Overwatch's case where most of the abilities aren't even offensive but movement, recon, or defense based.
Not an objective statement, just your opinion.
What does this even mean?

maybe, just maybe, it's a novel concept but
you have different tastes than other people

I never said that wasn't the case. You have infinite ammo. The fact that you have to reload doesn't change this.
Most of the lol heroes have either a weapon or ability that takes away the need for aiming.
If I play winston I don't need to aim.
It doesn't make it false.

So this whole time you were a blizzard fanboy mad I was insulting a shit game.

crapcunts is such a shitty acronym. It's vague enough to not really mean anything at all. ASSFAGGOTS was useful because it was such a narrow definition. Does a game play like user of strife? Then it's an ASSFAGGOTS.

Someone really needs to create a better acronym for these types of games.

I meant overwatch shits.
Whatever. Either way aim doesn't really matter that much.

Okay explain how this is a determent to the game then, especially if many FPSes beforehand did the same thing.
You do, though. The lightning gun is just a flamethrower that arcs within a cone, you still have to aim that cone and track targets to do any respectable damage that isn't just shrugged off.
Do you not know what an opinion is or what?
Nice ad hominem, especially when I was talking about all three games.

I can't name very many FPS with infinite ammo.
They took ammo out to make it easier for MOBA players which encourages players to spam since they wont have to go back to look for ammo.
The electricity sticks to players as long as you are looking sort of at them. Symmetra is even worse because it literally locks onto the hero.
Then there are all those ults which take away the need to aim.
You said everything I said was false.
Also Overwatch has horrible design.
The characters clash horribly. You have a ninja cyborg mixed in with a dwarf and a korean girl. They look so different side by side it makes the game look muddled. Same issue league has.

I dont remember counter-strike have infinite ammo. You argument also shit
How does that makes it okay to have infinite ammo?

Except that doesn't make it easier, how does it make it easier? Nobody does spam even with infinite ammo since it gives away positions.
Hence why I said you need to also track them. Same goes for Symmetra since her beam only hooks on when you keep the enemy in your field of view.
You mean none of them since even Tactical Visor requires you to pick and track a target manually and Deadeye requires you to actually pop it at the right time or end up wasting it?
and I objectively put forth facts that proved your claims false. Is this your first time making an argument or something, user?

Counterstrike is shit
Because it's so inconsequential that it wouldn't even change even if any of the games in the OP required you to find ammo boxes when you run low. No tactics would change, play would be the exact same.

Does that look like redcuckitchanistan to you?

Even if it did come from someone on here it doesn't mean the person who coined it wasn't a redditfag or that the people who regurgitate it aren't meme spewing redditfags.

You clearly never played another FPS before that wasn't half MOBA.
Having infinite ammo means you can spam all you want without having to worry about running out of ammo. Imagine playing any other FPS where you didn't run out of ammo.
Even if that's true that isn't aiming. Do you really think aiming and keeping someone in your field of view is the same? Have you never played an FPS before.
That isn't aiming user.
But everything I have said has been true.
You are such a hardcore drone facts don't mean anything to you.

Don't worry. BF1 is coming to save the genre.

Did someone say Blizzard drones?

What the fuck is your point? That OP is a redditor because he might know a term from Holla Forums that has been resposted on reddit? What kind of incomprehensible faggot idiocy is that?

Define what a MOBA is.
Most FPSes are like this.
It wouldn't be any different considering most other FPSes give you so much ammo it may as well be infinite in the first place.
How isn't it?
You have to aim in order to keep a lock and then keep them within a region to stay locked on. It's the same concept as semi-active radar seeking missiles.
Prove it.
Prove it.
Ad hominem, prove facts don't mean anything to me.

The user in those images has to be baiting.

That being said, the looking in the general direction of the enemy is an ultimate ability that recharges extremely slowly unless you're actually hitting people, or healing. It's more of a reward for actually doing shit.

Any FPS that means you can spam shots without having to worry about ammo is a bad FPS. Just like Overwatch.
Dota or lol like.
Because you looking in the general direction of someone isn't aiming at them. If I saw you in the corner of my eye would I be aiming at you?
Just did.

Doom and Quake are bad FPSes?
So Overwatch and Paladins aren't MOBAs?
It isn't but that's not how aiming with these abilities works either. You're being disingenuous.
Nope.

You actually have to conserve ammo in those games. You clearly haven't played them
They are MOBA like. They take elements from MOBAs.
I am happy you are admitting OW doesn't require aim finally.

Goddamn I hate this idiotic fucking argument. Overwatch and Paladins are nothing like fucking MOBAs, unless you also consider TF2 to be a fucking MOBA. They're shitty fucking FPS games but they're not goddamned MOBAs or anything like MOBAs you autistic retard.

Christ.

hello reddit

not an argument

How are you gonna shoot without ammo?

Not its not since ammo is a resource now. Finding ammo is now part of the strategy

It's very much like a MOBA.
TF2 has nothing like the things listed.

The enemy is 3 models away and the bullets are still hitting it?

do you destroy an enemy base? then fuck you its not a moba

Oh and forgot.

It's MOBA like

Oh and there are game modes in lol where you don't destroy the enemy base but it's still a moba

Not gonna get far into this but how do you even argue this shit? MOBA = "Multiplayer Online Battle Arena". By that terminology a LOT of fucking games are MOBAs. The only thing it has going for it is a loose social definition. Just don't perpetuate this dumb fucking marketing term.

get the fuck out of here. might as well call halo doom-like

Except Halo and Doom are apart of the same genre you idiot.
Overwatch and it;s like take many things from MOBAs on purpose.

are we going to call everquest a moba?

1) Number of players per side is fucking meaningless. You could easily have TF2 servers that were 6v6, or any number of players.
2) RPGs have skills with cooldowns, are they goddamned MOBAs now too?
3) Both games have ammo, you COLOSSAL IDIOT, what they don't have are ammo pickups. If you want to attempt to make a stupid point you could at least get the goddamned terminology right.

Let's just call everything we don't like a fucking MOBA and rid the term of any meaning. Tribes 2 was a fucking MOBA now! It had classes, there were weapons that recharged ammo, and, hey, in THAT game, there were actual bases to go in and destroy! That single fucking requirement comes miles closer to any single requirement for a MOBA than your feeble, malnourished brain, in its doomed quest to think up a worthwhile idea, has managed in this entire thread and, I'd wager, your worthless life.

Its an ultimate ability. You can use it for like 7 seconds every couple of minutes. It functions more as an area suppression tool than an actual replacement for aiming.

Overwatch is shit, but that ability isnt nearly as bad as that image makes it out to be.

No because everquest came out before the MOBA genre and didn't purposely take elements from MOBAs. Also it isn't

They have infinite ammo
Putting in reloads doesn't change that stupid

you forgot waifu shit, a successful FPS must have waifu shit

except it has abilities on cooldown clearly stealing from the MOBA genre ergo its a MOBA

Why are you making retarded strawmen blizzard drone?

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Grordbort laser guns

Almost every single one. Hell, there is a lot mind games in arena shooters by invading someone's preferred ammo/weapon while the the super health/armor pick-ups were down. Even something as casual as TF2 requires advance bases with Dispensers so that you can stock up again if the ammo drop spots are too contested. Even in single player FPS games, like Doom, they always make the ammo for the best weapons scarce while also making the ammo cap for the guns pretty low.
Though for multiplayer games none of that matters if you're bad at the game and always dying before you run out of ammo.

[VGS]

Beta Tribes Ascend was too good for this world.

Those are items, not abilities, 6V6 is one mode, you only listen one gun that doesn't take ammo.
Also Overwatch has champions/heroes.

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it has problems but I still enjoy it.

What ever happened to enjoying something despite its flaws? Is everything that's not perfect just complete shit now?

Gonna have to wait a few years.

Try junkrat and pharah, they have a lot of air mobility. coming from a soldier main, they're pretty fun. junkrat reminds me of demoman and pharah is like soldier with a jetpack

Every 30-45 seconds is a lot more accurate than couple of minutes; ultimates charge fairly fast in Overwatch.

Jesus christ it really is the new league of legends.

Yeah the mobility is pretty shit in Overwatch unless you're someone like Lucio or Genji. Even then, none of it feels really out there. All your movement is expected; there aren't any interesting unintentional movement options like there was with rocket jumping and bunnyhopping. There was something you could do with Genji's dash and grabbing onto a ledge, but I'm not sure if that's even in the game anymore. I dropped it ever since it became evident that Blizzard was hellbent on removing anything that they didn't deem "intentional". Even removing fucking animation cancelling, of all things.

Saging for doublepost.

They still have about half a year before we know that for sure.

It's not as bad a league until it tries and fails to reinvent itself every year.

I want a Wakfu hero brawler in third person.

WEW

Ankama sure knows how to make good ideas, concepts, designs, lore, and then do fucking nothing good with them or shit all over them

Blzzcon is next week or so I think.
Of course they start to come out of thew woodwork and shill their shit at every opportunity they get.

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Just to sum up the last Overwatch thread

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Fun fact:

Soldier 76's ult is actually weak as shit, requires you to actively do some passive aim and still leaves you vulnerable the whole time

The only ult that is any weaker would be McCree because the warmup period before you can even start to do damage to a target is over a second, let alone the 3+ seconds to actually use it to kill a target

Almost any other ult is stronger because they can target everyone at the same time or they give their team an amazing buff for 4-10 seconds

why would you use an ability that prevents you from getting headshots?

If you dont like this thread just hide it, filtered and reported.

WEW

Wait really?

Holy shit you're right

Isn't this how 4chan started down the path to the dark side?

I wonder what Ankama is currently doing