I can't wait to se the Anarchokiddies tears when based Assad goes after their beloved YPG after he is done with the...

So invading Georgia and Ukraine is anti imperialist?

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Georgia had ethnic minorities that where oppressed by Georgia and Ukraine have ethnic Russians that wanta to be part of Russia instead of Nazi Ukraine

Iraq had ethnic minorities that were oppressed by Iraq, I guess that means 2003 is a-ok by tankie logic!

Kinda weird that the guy is praising coalition airstrikes and the USA too? I get that some people want to pretend Chinese, Russian and even Japanese/Korean imperialism because of muh evil USA and le West but this guy is working for the CIA. And maybe you can say its excusable cause the US is also funding equally awful groups like ISIS and there's even reports from Seymour Hersh that rogue US generals have helped train Assad's forces but I think its pretty naive to think the virulently anti-socialist/communist US/West is gonna let them build even nominal socialism unless the actors doing so are complete agents.

Really, I don't think the argument that the OSS helped the CPP and Ho Chi Minh during WWII holds water. Look deep in your heart guys, you know that the PRC and Vietnam's conception of "socialism" was far more watered-down and nationalistic then that of the USSR. The reason the OSS helped them is that they were reasonably sure they could control they underestimated the power of nationalism them.

From Ocalan in 1998:

Just listen to this hack, the part after the groveling to Turkey is literal reddit-tier cringe. How can you believe this man will build socialism?

gezite.org/int/pkk-and-the-imperialism-part-1/

*doesn't exist because of muh evil USA

Most of the neocons were """former""" Trots so I guess 2003 really was a-okay by Trot logic.

**meant to write "far worse groups like ISIS"

Putin the Capitalist the Marxist

Russian imperialism is a necessary evil to counter American/NATO influence and expansion in the region

I'll trade you Capitalism for Capitalism

It's not about defeating capitalism, It's about breaking the American hegemony

putin is a capitalist

tankies delude themselves and wish he would go back to his KGB days but russia is a capitalist state and putin isn't deluding himself to bring back the dream of collectivization. his ambitions center more around making russia bigger "to counter the West" but never expect Russia to give up that land if the west ever finds itself countered

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So other hegemony can rise and take the lead? Nicely done tankybro.

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Well, well, well.

Assad is actually saving the YPG. Anarchism can only ever tangibly exist as a myth of resistance.

This needs to be a banner.

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Second this

This. If Assad destroys the YPG then it will forever be immortalized and then it won't ever really be subject to critique from a realistic point of view. Plus maybe Uncle Soros, the Ford Foundation, and the State Department will team to offer anarchy studies at Western universities.

This.

Like the kurds will make must difference.
some short lived kurdish anarchokiddie commune that will get rekt by america in a couple of years anyways.

they already made more difference than the baath in its whole existence

I'm a pro YPG tankie :^)

Assad army tried to attack the YPG with no success from his weak soldiers with no strong ideological guidance. Plus he is allying with Turkey who wants to annex northern Syria, the situation seems quite pathetic for Assad.

aranews.net/2016/08/ypg-official-syrian-regime-trying-satisfy-turkey-attacking-kurds/

YPG is not some western punk kid who thinks anarchy is like being edgy and dressing in some sort of way. They have a strategy to organize their society based on a local direct democracy under a one party system. Ocalan didn't turn into some edgy anarkiddie in prison.

Weird, how Western imperialism is targeting Baath (Syria, Iraq) and not the Kurds. I have my criticisms of Baath as an anti-revisionist and their relationship with Russian-Chinese imperialism but its pretty obvious that the Western SJW-liberal empire considers them a greater threat then the Kurds. In fact, the West has used the Kurds as a tool to break up resistance to their brutal assaults on Iraq and Syria.

(You)
Also see this. Tell me how Ocalan is a socialist again?

yep

kek, that's a gulagin'

libcom.org/library/rojava-reality-rhetoric-gilles-dauvé-tl

he's not a socialist at this point but apparently a follower of murray bookchin but also marx

but you know, he is not making the decisions. and just because the us helps them, they always say, they are prepared to btfo them when the time comes.

they also are friends with your russian god you idiot, so better get in line with your leader putin and stop shit-talking rojava

now it can.

this one fits better

This is old news dude. SAA, Hezbollah, and YPG have been doing joint ops. The Syrian air force just killed 3 TSK soldiers last week.

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Sure Assad is good compared to the fascist Islamic state but for some reason other tankies like him even more than the kurds

Seriously can someone explain this meme to me ?

I mean aren't there actual tankies working with the kurds ?

Fucking kek.

Reminder SSA and YPG are currently working together

tankie scum

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>>>/marx/

look at him and laugh

Did you mean SAA?

YPG are allied with the USA who started all of this and is prolonging the war. The kurds are taking their nationalism over antiimperialism and socialism, they have sold out as US mercenary ground forces. There is nothing redeeming about them
The Syrian Communist Party, while delivering critizism and demanding political change, does understand the current situation and stands on its own and with the working people.
They will gain through this struggle and come up top or at least strong enough to force the Baath party to reorientate back to a socialist and antiimperialist program and finally putting a stop to the friendly diplomacy with the US and EU.

The Kurds are trying to survive the civil war and are playing all sides. A war where you find yourself outgunned isn't really a place to worry about dogmatic anti-imperialism (i find it laughable that you're worried about imperialism while supporting modern day Russia). They are currently working with the regime ffs. They obviously aren't the loyal lap dogs of the US like you're trying to portray.

You do realize that doesn't make any strategic sense. Unlike the rebels the ypg is willing to work with them an negotiate, why would they fight when turkey and isis are still common enemies

OP said after Assad is done with the islamists

This is why stalinists are the worst

This is what tankies actually believe.

How do I volunteer, now that the Lions of Rojava page went dark?

I wouldnt be to sure of that. Kekalonia-tier entities can survive as long as theyre surrounded by incompetent foes(see Chiapas).
Thus far they have managed to effectively survive constant turkish bombardment and even recapture territory, I doubt a war-weary SAA would fare any better.
Also, the Afrin kurds seem to have a closer relation to the Syrian government than the rest of "Rojava"

you mean tailing comprador bourgeois leaders and taling comparador bourgeois is not a principled INDEPENDENT political line.

Except the Baath party was never anti-imperialist or socialist, Arab socialism is as socialist as Nazi, Tankie.

Hello pol.

Get out of here gingerposter

this is your brain on stalinism

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this counts as an argument in the tanky's head

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The stalinists had to resort to murder because they didn't know how to win an argument

You wheren't making an argument to begin with Trotskyscum

stalin betrayed the revolution, and killed any real revolutionaries that opposed him

No Trotsky was a complete retard that would have resulted in western Europe teaming up and invade USSR

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Why are Arabs so fucking retarded? Even Hitler with his pagan worship and whose only flimsy education involved the arts was more idiosyncratic and effective than these Arab movements and leaders.

you're the retard here m80. trostsky advocated for global revolution, stalin actively suppressed revolutionary movements in other countries so he can have good a good relationship with the west. he killed thousands of marxist leninists from his own party to make sure he'd stay in power, enacted a cult of personality around himself, instituted reactionary practices like criminalizing homosexuality and promoting russian orthodox nationalism. even if you dismiss half the shit he's done as western propaganda, you still cannot dismiss the above facts. he was the gravedigger of the world revolution

what are the odds the government will backstab the ypg once the rebels and isis are defeated?

Not to mention killing comintern, which caused the inevitable death of CPUSA

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at one point does tankie-ism and that brand of anti imperialism become its own ideology, entirely separate from socialism?

The US government? They seem to be going all in on their support, delivering heavy weapons and such. If you look at the wikileaks cables you see them supporting alliance with the Kurds as much as a decade ago. I would imagine the US is counting on them to keep peace in northern Iraq, but to be honest my knowledge of current events there is spotty at best.

Especially considering the recent shift in trusting with Erdogan, I think the US will try to stay on congenial terms with them as long as possible. Things would have to significantly shift in the region before they just threw them away.

I still can't believe he couldn't get the Popular Front who were governing France at the time to intervene in the Spanish Civil War when fascist Italy and Germany were openly aiding Franco.

The failure to pressure France aside, had it been any other Soviet leader, would you think the Republicans would have crumbled so easily?

Would Lenin have sent the NVKD to restore the bourgeois regime and reverse collectivisation in Spain when resources and manpower were already critically in short supply?

Stalin should have just sent a red carpet for Franco's triumph and it would have served the war effort just as well his meddling did.

he did the same in the greek civil war

So all the replies to this post are a joke right? Surely people here have the sense to know ML's don't have the sense of humor necessary describe themselves with a pejorative term.

Iraqi Kurds aren't the YPG. Obviously the US is supporting the Peshmerga. They've been working together for over a decade.

thats why the west would have invaded him

Although I support Stalin and am more understanding of his actions, he certainly deviated from Communism by opposing Trotsky's Marxist jihad. Sure, he did so to preserve socialism as a beacon for the rest of the world but the besieged state eventually succumbed to imperialist attacks and consumed itself.
I'm doubtful that it would have ended well but I can't help but wonder if we'd be living in a socialist world had the Soviets had pushed such actions. The world was certainly on the precipice at that point but I fear burgeoning American influence would have been able to quash it.
I know this hither tither rant doesn't really say anything but I really wish us lefties would at least acknowledge a more complete view of history before going off on unsubstantiated sectarian shit flinging.

Don't even bother man, let them support the western backed useful idiot kurds and have the world be completely dominated by western usury bloc because they both le bad.

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Ayy LMAO!

Fucking Tankiddies are just red Fascists.

KEK.

10/10 logic, worked great didn't it?

[citation needed]

At lest hes honest about it, most tankies would dance around this.

this is why Hitler lost

it was literally proven to be wrong. unless the world's superpowers all become socialist, socialism can never survive

and how would Trotksy be able to start a communist revolt in Britain and USA?

and how is Trotsky supposed to spread communism to USA and Britain?

???