*The Adolph Hitler model for political success*

*The Adolph Hitler model for political success*

How to bring about National socialism in a mordernistic world, and secure the existence for your people and a future for white children, this thread is for discussing plans for political success. National socialists, national syndicalists and fascists all welcome.

First of all there are the roles you should strive to work for, they are all dependent on your personal abilities:

*MOVEMENT LEADER*
This role is only for total ubermench, and likely very few people if any who read this will be suitable for the role of movement leader. Franco, Mussolini, and Hitler were all the movement leader for their cause. Traits required of the Movement leader are as follows:

At least somewhat attractive:
Optics are important! And people are shallow, if you look pug ugly it is unlikely anyone will follow you no matter how strong your ideals are.

Physically fit:
You don't have to be chad levels but every bit of strength helps, not only will it help with optics, but physical fitness is a very important step towards building confidence! Which leads us of course too…

Confidence:
The movement leader must have confidence, a ton of it, they must be willing to defend their beliefs and espouse them openly, no one will support a movement led by a pussy. You will also need to be able to speak publically, Hitler was so successful because he was an excellent public speaker.

Accomplishments:
This one is big, Adolf Hitler joined the military and was an excellent fighter. People will never ever support you if you're just some looser who sits in his mom's basement eating all day.

Intelligence:
Not only will you need intelligence for writing the ideology that you will espouse, you will also need it in order to perform other steps that will be important towards making the movement successful.

Strong willpower:
Times will be hard at various points in the movement and a good leader must simply always try to maintain strong composure and to never surrender. And if the Zionists force a war to prevent "muh second shoah" then you must be prepared to face the rigors of leading a country during a war, something that even Hitler was about to snap under.

*Secondary Leader*
The members of Hitler's innermost circle were in this position, they require a similar amount of ability to the movement leader, but not as much.

Required traits are:

Dedication:
While it's fine to be somewhat questioning of the movement leader you must also trust his judgement. You also need to be able to follow his commands.

Confidence:
You'll need to be able to lead marches when the leader is doing something out, and defend the ideology with reasonable ability.

Intelligence:
While it is a lot less necessary to be intellegent as the movement leader you still must be able to propose ideas to him at time.

Cont.

At least type it out in a note pad before posting. This is somewhat interesting but you are fucking it up.

*The Subverser*
The Subversers are the early adopters of the Movement leaders ideas. Adolph Hitler took the DAP and transformed it into the NSDAP by himself, but it wouldn't hurt to have political devotees join whatever party the ultimate leader joins in order to help talk hhim and his ideas up.

Required traits are:

Confidence:
You'll have to be able to be the political minority inside of a party and be able to push against it. You'll need to be able to debate others successfully and defend your ideas.

Dedication:
Dedication to the ideology and to the movement leader will be essential towards shaping the party towards your will. You must never bend or capitulate and you must always always maintain faith towards the cause .

*The Marcher:*
The Marcher is pretty self descriptive, you will have to be able to march during public demonstrations and show up in order to show your support for the Movement leader.

Physical attractiveness:
You have to be willing to be up in front of the cameras, and therefore you must have excellent optics, a group of fat smelly ugly tubs of butter marching is going to turn any average Joe away from the movement.

Fitness:
Let's face it, brawls with the modern day redfront are bound to occur, you might not need a lot of it considering the weakness of the opposition, but you must be able to take a punch and to deliver one as well. You will also need the fitness for optics naturally, but in order to march and carry flagpoles and do so without complaint you need at least some degree of strength.

*The propogandist:*

Say you're an ugly fat sack of shit with no real confidence, but you still want to help the movement, then the propagandist is the job for you. The propagandist and the distributor both need absolutely no optics and no level of fitness whatsoever but their position is still extremely necessary.

Intelligence:
You need to be able to reason what propaganda will be successful and what you should not use. You will also need the intelligence in order to create propaganda effectively.

Artistic ability:
Even if it's just with Photoshop, ability with art will be necessary in order to create effective, beautiful propaganda, you'll need to be able to balance informativeness with aesthetics which is quite a hard balance to make.

*The distributor:*
The distributor works hand and hand with the propagandist, not needing any personal talent with art. The distributor also need not to show his face, and is the internet equivalent of the marcher.

Required traits:

Work ethic:
You can not just puss off to play vidya, you must be sitting in the comment section of every video, be present on every corner of the internet in order to both distribute our propaganda and debate detractors of the Movement.

Intellegence:
You can not make a fool out of the Movement when facing opposition. You must be able to debate people with a large degree of success.

Vote fodder:
Say you don't have any of the traits listed above, and you aren't willing to risk anything at all, then vote fodder is right for you.

Traits required:

Literally just remembering to get your lazy was out there and vote.

That's it as far as roles in the movent goes, but the actual strategy for gaining power is equally important.

The ultimate strategy of the NDSAP was to subvert a party and then to amaze the public with their ideas and the strength of those who supported them.

The basic Gestalt of the strategy is as follows.

The movement leader joins a party along with any secondary leaders and supporters, Hitler infiltrated a "workers" party but I'd advise against it, I'd suggest infiltrating a nationalist party (even if it is currently full of civic nationalist cucks) then going on from there. After being emulsified within an existing party the Movement and secondary leaders will espouse their ideology and try to convince party members towards them. Once there is enough internal support then the subversers instigate a soft coup against current party leadership demanding the movement leader be put into leadership.

Once the movement leader is in power of a party he will begin to reform it, changing it's name and symbols as he sees fit. A lot of the party membership will dip here as the (((rats))) flee the ship. The political party will then nominate secondary leaders and the movement leader in elections. At this point everything is set up for takeover.

STAGE TWO, ACTIVISM:

Once you have control of a political party the campaigning starts. Marchers will hold public demonstrations, marches are obviously nice, but there are other things will be needed to drum up support. Other than typical political events I would recommend the marchers also hold food drives and work at soup kitchens in poor white communities (in uniform) in order to paint the movement as one that really cares about it's voters. Propagandists and distributors will at this point begin attempting to control the online narrative, they just have to meme it as hard as they can. The leaders and secondary leaders will hold rallies, speeches and attend debates and talkshows at the same time.

STAGE THREE, ELECTION SUCCESS AND POST ELECTION ACTIVITIES:

Assuming everything went well, then your party should have at least won some positions in government. If you did not win majority in your parliament or Senate or w/e then simply analyze public opinion to see what you did wrong and then try again. Constantly keep pushing the ideology from your seats in government and never let up, eventually you will reach majority, and in that case you're set.

Once you have majority I would suggest illegalizing any opposition parties, which should scare the normie away from them, executing anyone who tries to fight against it's illegalization, you don't want a situation like what happened to Mussolini.

I am studying the 3rd Wave 'experiment' that turned a highschool into a 3rd Way incubator in less than a week. If we can dissect and understand its methodology, we can replicate it all over the place. I'll post my findings when I have them organized.

You must overcome this initial problem: Getting individualists to work together is like herding cats, and many Holla Forumsacks are highly individually-minded. One must breed a sense of responsibility and membership to the group while harnessing that individual spirit. Otherwise no matter how good the organization looks on paper, it will fail as everyone fractures into sub-groups right down to lone people.

Keep in mind that the vast majority of people are followers. They are the backbone of any organization and the way it is made or broken. Every Holla Forumsack should be encouraged towards self-improvement, high agency, and personal responsibility that will attract normies to our side, while at the same time understanding that most of us even here in the hurtbox thrive best when following the example of another.

The first goal is to prevent infinite fracture points among the individually-minded when constructing your organization(s), and then the following problems become much easier to tackle.

In my opinion, running your campaign in a similar way to how Trump has done it is the best way to win a democratic position.
However, that won't be enough. When having the presidency, then you should make arrangements for a coup / fourth reich

I don't think one should have Step One being to win the Presidency when Holla Forums struggles with even forming meatspace organization in the first place. That doesn't mean don't reach for the stars, but you need to lay a foundation first. Self-improvement is a great cornerstone, but individualism must be tempered with group adherence to be of any use for our hypnotized normies.

Trump' s strategy was great, with a few exceptions.

1. He didn't have any subverters with him when attempted to take the Republican party, and rather tried to take it alone.

2. He didn't have secondary leaders running for positions in the Senate and house of rep.

3. His followers should be cared for their communities (if they lived in a white community)

4. Trump himself lacks some characteristics of a movement leader, he didn't have the best optics and he wasn't really that great at public speaking, he was alright but not really at the Hitler level.


This is a very good point, people who want to lead or to espouse the ideology must work on improving themselves.

*should have cared for their communities,

Like by doing food drives and the like while wearing MAGA hats.

Exactly, starting small doesn't mean ending small. We need to be realistic about what we can accomplish, and large goals can lead us in the wrong direction.


It is most interesting indeed. Replication of that success could be very useful. I imagine that if we laid out a framework of 10 goals (for example) then we could identify each other on a larger basis while having captains, or some other kind of small group leader, give the movement its drive and recruitment locally. We could organize it with 10-19 people in the smallest group, those that lead those groups are part of a county/city chapter, so on and so forth as we expand. It might be too dangerous to have just one leader, because leaders can die, but if we have a set of tenets or ideas, it would be impossible to stamp out, while also being self replicating and self reinforcing. These tenets would need to be strict and simple.

Shit tier thread tbh

stick with the stuff that worked and was written by people who knew what they were talking about instead of wasting time on some teenager's deconstruction of something infinitely bigger than him

This thread is about discussing what worked numbskull.

We are talking about the success that Hitler had, as recorded in Mein Kampf. While his success is valid, I personally believe that the struggle of life requires us to move forward where the last movement left off. That means removing what isn't correct and continuing on the good foundation underneath. Our situation is not similar enough to Weimar to copy Hitler exactly. We will adapt what will work for our situation. This is a call to action! Even if it is just coordinated shitposting, the IOTBW campaign shows us the power that coordination brings.

Exactly, this kind of activity, when replicated in the thousands and millions of instances, is what convinces many people to like the people and to associate the sigil with that happy feeling. You need only to have good actors who wear an easily-identifiable uniform. Even Antifa are considered heroic among the opportunists and cowards of the Left because they can associate their actions with their uniform.


Scalability is key. What works in a local election may not work in a national one. But discovering what tactics work on each level is critical to success, and if you lay a foundation that promotes outlooks and activities that work their way up to the very top, that you can scale up to that point, then you have a solid political machine that needs only fuel to operate.

At this moment I believe people should first find methods of identifying and attracting likeminded others to themselves. I've done it through hinting at my power levels publicly and keeping an eye out for those who signal the same. Once you find them meet with them in private and organize off the radar local things. Those little seeds can be leveraged in all manner of ways to make big waves if you tickle the right networks, both friendly and unfriendly. It's complicated to set up but when you do it right it can explode out phenomenally fast in the right conditions. Our goal now is to create seeds that, when the next societal upheaval hits, they'll be ready to sprout and gain traction.

Hence why I have to organize my understanding of the 3rd Wave, because it did just that in a microcosm with astounding effects using only a few simple techniques.


Your dubs cannot go unchecked, and your point is honestly good. We should try to stand on the shoulders of giants rather than reinvent the wheel. Citations and examples of what has worked well in the past and current day are more valuable than individual theorizing.

Here's a hint for a new social tool however: The advent of mass-videos allows for someone to establish pseudo-personal connections with their audience while at the same time talking to a massive crowd. Where it sacrifices social proof leverage it gains in likability, and that is a field of study that the world has not yet truly begun to explore or exploit. It is Holla Forums's wheelhouse to use such a tool to great advantage.

A hat as an identifier is a great way of getting normies and Holla Forums into uniform. Easy to associate.

The structure that national leadership requires is more detestable in the US than Europe. Besides, the goal of the true state is to create the overman. Since the white man is capable of self control I think we do need to give him a great deal of autonomy. Our enemies today are more numerous than we can possibly battle in debates, but if we can convince normies to 'turn off the fake news' and improve themselves, then they are effectively vaccinated against degeneracy. Just as a grandfather passes his wisdom on to the father, and the father to the son. A set network of leaders can work against us if we are infiltrated at any point.

Finding like minded people in real life is either for recruitment/planting the seed; or for coordination of those already dedicated. Seed planting would be most effective if we had a set of core beliefs that we can tell people. That way a signal larger than the local group is identifiable. I too hint at my power level where I can, but its mostly people who have some similar beliefs, and almost no one is aware of the JQ.

The 3rd wave experiment exploded a little too quickly in my opinion. If we aren't strict about what we believe we will be torn apart by our own members.

Vlog style mass video can be an effective tool (similar to writing responses). We would need a spokesman, or even the leader, to do these.
Questions that are answered must serve the purpose of them being asked, so I would initially advise against trying any live Q&A and instead opt for relevant prepared questions. We must not give our enemy any position of power here because doubt is a very effective tool.

Nice tripfagging, faggot.

You are missing one thing OP you also need a reagent. People have been bombarded with all kinds of negativity and normalizing things that should not have been. The NSDAP had a couple of those events that shook normies and put some fear into them, a couple of guys brawling in the streets won't do it, and discussing such things on the internet (while logged into google chrome with your personal name and surname with your webcam not taped) is not safe.

Uncertainty breeds compliance to those with a plan. At this point I think the only event large enough to create the kind of societal uncertainty required for an explosive shift in popular sentiment is an economic depression. This not only creates a huge amount of discontent and uncertainty but also frees up the labors and attentions of many dispossessed people with high skill levels. If you have the net in place to catch them once the normal structure lets them go, you'll see a massive burst in membership to whatever group provides such a soft landing place. So one of the first goals for little organizations after laying the foundations to a political machine that can scale up fast is to create the mechanism necessary to protect and support their people which can be done honestly in Holla Forums's case because the whole point is to enrich and ennoble our volk.

Very well put with very nice digits.

Here is why that doesn't work. A movement with few leaders can be easily destroyed by knocking off the few influential ones vs millions of anons working independently towards the same goal. The user army wins every time.

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So long as you can get them all moving in the same direction, sure. To do that you need to inspire a host of them to do a particular thing. Holla Forums has seen this during the early days of HWNDU, during the Trump campaign, and most recently with It's Okay To Be White. These are powerful actions and robust in that no one is 'directing' it in a leadership sense, but every one runs out of steam once new amusements are desired. Trump's campaign had the most longevity because Holla Forums was and has been spoiled with delicious happenings constantly that kept interest alive. But that interest is maintained because of the figurehead is someone we can personify and connect with as human beings, and that is why leaders are eventually needed for any organization with lasting power to succeed.

For Holla Forums itself though, this place should never have a leader. Anonymity requires a dynamic hierarchy of ideas in order to achieve its impressive effects. These are not mutually exclusive goals either. A clever leader will use every opportunity and tool out there to achieve his ends.

Great. Keep this thread in mind and revive it later. The topic is extremely important.

Agreed on reviving it later.

Looks like quite a few of us think we need foundation work that will be stable, even if a leader is killed.

I always hear this, hear that the normalfag is a thing which only listens to people who espouse radical views during times of governmental collapse. I personally disagree, I think that the thing that inspires most normalfag is numbers.

The normie you see, is extremely worried about having nowhere to go, for their social life is their life and without people they might as well be dead. We have to try to show that we have a large enough community to replace their friends if need be, which is where marches and rallies come in.

Theoretically lets go back, Uncle Dolf won the war and died of old age or resigned being too old.

What happens then? How is the next leader decided and how do we put safe guards in place to get another great leader, family bloodlines eventually produce some kind of spoiled prince etc.

You are right about this but you are taking governmental collapse at face value, the normie fears his creature comforts being taken away. This does not not necessarily mean a total collapse, look at how shaken up people were about the American negros "take a knee" thing. An event does not mean total collapse a large event mean getting people scared off losing something, they do not necessarily have to lose it, they just need too believe they are highly likely too.

What a dumbass.

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What a dumbass.>>10921531
Sorry wrong thread. Disregard comment

This. A new age requires new warfare

Yeah I believe that the whole millions for the same goal thing works excellently on the internet, but I think a movement needs a single person to have as a leader in real life. I believe this because normies like having a single person to throw their will behind and a single powerful leader is one of the tennents of fascism.

Your point about leaders being picked off would be valid with one exception, I think that if a movement keeps having people picked off will certainly raise suspicion. I think that a movement leaders will certainly need to be as paranoid as Hitler was before he took power.

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We can meme him anyway.


We have it—-MAGA hats. Now we just need to use it.


We are currently riding a leaderless resistance right into power. (President Trump)
WE are the 3rd Wave members and Trump is the doesn't-know-it-yet Leader riding the Tiger.

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This is why this user advocates hijacking Technocracy. The kikes haven't planted (((avoidance triggers))) in the normies for that.


IF? Our enemies are kikes damn it! EVERY leader we put forward will probably be (((murdered)))—-we must use those (((deaths))) to redpill until we have enough power to GAS THE KIKES FOR REAL.


Which is why the Leader must be an Idea, not a Person.

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I agree that the role must be filled, but we must remember that it is a role.
It's also a critical weakness as long as (((they))) live.
We must exploit those (((deaths))) to turn more of the people against our (((enemies))), until RWDS. Ultimately, the Leader must be an Idea… "and Ideas are bulletproof".

When did Holla Forums become so cucked?

Don't you know that Holla Forums is now a civic nationalist board user?