What non-leftist ideologies and worldviews do you like, have sympathy for,...

Matthew Russell
Matthew Russell

What non-leftist ideologies and worldviews do you like, have sympathy for, agree with somewhat?

Mine:

lolberts/ ancaps
I think their hearts are in the right place, if only they knew what socialism really means

liberals
Again, hearts in the right place

new atheists/ fedoras/ skeptics
They are just right about a lot of stuff

anti-feminists/ sargonites
Also right about a bunch of stuff

conservatives
I think a lot of them are socialists at heart, in a way. They value work and want to take care of their community and probably dream of being their own boss.

Ian Turner
Ian Turner

Libertarians. I don't think their hearts are generally in the right place, and their ideology kinda sucks, but then there are many whose hearts ARE in the right place.

If only they knew what socialism really means

they often do, they just reject it, often for some decent reasons, often for not so decent reasons.

Fascists

Some. Some are nice people. I have no respect for their ideologies though.

Gavin Torres
Gavin Torres

I hate single mothers and value family

Sebastian Powell
Sebastian Powell

Trots and anarchists tbh.

Juan Reed
Juan Reed

Only liberals and socdems because they see the same problems as we do, they only don't know that those problems are inherent to capitalism and can't be fixed within capitalism.

Fashies and conservativez are scum because they value spooks more than human well-being.

Ian Torres
Ian Torres

Does individualist anarchism count as non left?
If not then liberals. They are often nicer then the people here and really care about the people, even if their solutions are often misguided.

Aaron Howard
Aaron Howard

I have sympathy for Tankies. Sometimes in my dark moments I too wish I had an AK 47 wielding vanguard at my disposal to get rid of the reactionaries and instil democratic structures and abolish private property by glorious revolutionary holocaust

but then I remember that I live the UK and you can't own a gun and most people would rather watch X-Factor.

Robert Bailey
Robert Bailey

I used to think libertarians mostly have their hearts in the right place too, but in the last few years they've been coming out in droves as basic bitch reactionaries, so fuck 'em.

Though if there are still libertarians who care about freedom as much as they're supposed to, I could sympathize with them and wish they saw what socialism is all about.

Xavier Thompson
Xavier Thompson

White Nationalism, at least in the current state of affairs where every other ethnic group gets a "homeland".

Anti-SJWism to an extent. If you want to create media without powerful blue haired wommens that promotes 1950s idealism, that's ok, go ahead, I do not care. But at the same time, I also want to be able to create as much pro-degenerate content as I desire.

TL;DR, Postal 2 and Gone Home are both great games, I wanna see a world full of diverse media, not just one side or the other being promoted.

Hatred of Islam. I don't much care for a lifestyle enforced on pain of death, torture or mutilation. I care even less when it seeks to dominate the world and enforce itself everywhere. Get your IEDs out muh furry conventions at the local tobacco filled gay casinos pls, and hile you're at it show me dem titties in the driver seat.

Jeremiah Reed
Jeremiah Reed

closet-polack

Chase Lee
Chase Lee

White Nationalism, at least in the current state of affairs where every other ethnic group gets a "homeland".

tbf i don't think that's too controversial, the USSR organised itself upon ethnic and national boundaries

Owen Wood
Owen Wood

An alt-left full of anti-capitalists like you wouldn't be bad at all

Aiden Gomez
Aiden Gomez

Not really, they want to gas, hang or burn me, depending on which /pol/tard you ask. Not really finding much comradery among the right.

Adrian Perez
Adrian Perez

Islam. It's the most politically militant religion and spirituality. There's nothing like the concept of "jihad" anywhere else, it's like a mix of Hellenistic ethics (inner struggle) and militant activism (outer struggle). I want to see some philosopher turn Islam into a political theology, as Carl Schmitt has done for Catholicism.

Grayson Thompson
Grayson Thompson

nationalism
based on race
mfw

Matthew Lee
Matthew Lee

read orwell tho

Jeremiah Campbell
Jeremiah Campbell

Bretty sweet if I do say so myself

Jeremiah Nelson
Jeremiah Nelson

What do you mean? I can't find anything on the net where Orwell talks about Islam.

Brody Miller
Brody Miller

Some fascists are straight up honest about who they are and what they do, and I can respect that. Same with lolberts. In the latter case I think a lot of them simply lack exposure to any kind of comprehensive theory of any kind.

Ancaps I have no tolerance for though, they are too deep in ideology to even be reasonable as people.

Christian Hill
Christian Hill

New Deal liberalism
These kind of dems have their heart in the right place and genuinely believe there is a way to make the US system more livable and people oriented without shitting all over the poor and minorities as a scapegoat. As a communist I do have some sympathy for Roosevelt myself because he managed to position the US on the right side of WWII when it was pretty clear a good bit of the US capitalists and establishment would've rather have fought with the Nazis instead of against them.

Maybe that's why you still find honest blue collar workers (especially older ones) who are still enslaved to the Roosevelt cult, compared to all the other shitheads that succeeded him, Roosevelt was a real gem.

Camden Morgan
Camden Morgan

White Nationalism, at least in the current state of affairs where every other ethnic group gets a "homeland".

Sebastian Jones
Sebastian Jones

Non-ethnic based fascism/ nationalism

Liberalism

Libertarianism

Owen Bell
Owen Bell

FDR does get too much shit from the far left, it was either cuckdem policies or watching the US go full fascist since actual socialist policies would have gotten him lynched.

Plus it's fun to watch lolberts stutter about how the New Deal was so evil even though it clearly kept America from imploding

Jaxon Nelson
Jaxon Nelson

Civic nationalism as a method to solidify the geographical position of the working class, allow them to organize, overthrow porky and then work towards a union of socialists states, with the end goal of abolishing borders.

Non-fascists technocracy is pretty cool too.

Anti-theism is cool too because I fucking hate churches, religion and the fuckery it brings into daily life.

Other than that I dont really like or sympathise with anyone.

Maybe a for anarchism because riot porn.

Isaac Nguyen
Isaac Nguyen

National Syndicalism and other Turd Position ideologies as well as Radical Traditionalism(Evola and the like)/Occult Fascism à la Ordine Nuovo. Generic White Nationalism and more conservative reactionary thought is lame as fuck though.

Brandon Brown
Brandon Brown

Thats some major aids man

Colton Clark
Colton Clark

The picture or what I am sympathetic with?

Kayden Parker
Kayden Parker

Both

Anthony Anderson
Anthony Anderson

human well-being is a spook, re-read your Stirner

Samuel Wilson
Samuel Wilson

marx flag
stirnerite

huh?

3rd Positionism is interesting but bullshit really

Jayden Peterson
Jayden Peterson

Keynesianism
Genius way of stabilising capitalism on a national and global level. Keynes was as close to a scientist as an economist could get and based his theories on as much real data as possible rather than ideology. I love his objectivity and thoroughness.

Islam
I like the way they conduct themselves on /islam/, for religious people they seem to be pretty realistic and unspooked.
I wish I could understand Arabic and listen to the Qu'ran.
It seems clunky and dull when translated into English, and supposedly the point is to listen to it being recited in the traditional way.

Jaxon Campbell
Jaxon Campbell

Neoliberalism
It's popular, which says it all. People love it, and that's the free market in action.

Zachary Price
Zachary Price

I honestly like the idea that no matter what we do or what we try it's hopeless, and right now we're in the biggest participatory observation of the reality of Gambler's Ruin.

I know every generation has said "next one will be the end", but I don't see anything at this level of complexity and turmoil not just ripping itself apart in as short as one or two generations.

Everything from global warming causing common pandemics and making regions barren and unfertile, income inequality reaching apocalyptic levels, alienation causing xenophobia

I honestly don't see a way where fighting for something is possible. Just let it die and hope the people that come after see it as a learning lesson.

Tyler Roberts
Tyler Roberts

I feel you.

Parker Price
Parker Price


I agree more or less, but I am still sympathetic to those types.

Nicholas Hernandez
Nicholas Hernandez

I have a lot of respect for technocracy and the other autocratic schools of thought that merged from it. The way they think of society is a function of energy instead of product of economics is really very fascinating. I think the idea holds a lot of merit when you look at how industrial capitalism boomed and social democracy rose and fell. Oil and natural resources played a huge role in all of it. I think it's something that needs to be examined closer.

Carter Ward
Carter Ward

Is a material reality, having something to eat, a house and time to do what you want are not spooks.

Samuel Jenkins
Samuel Jenkins

Does anyone else here have any sympathy for genuine Christians and the message of Christianity? I don't believe myself but I've been sympathetic to it ever since I left the passionate anti-theistic stage of my life.

Adam Nelson
Adam Nelson

Yes, and it's about the only Abrahamic religion I do have respect for due to it's underlying notions of universality. (i.e. while it allows for tribalism it does not do so in matters of faith in the way judaism and islam does)
Shame I can't get over the feeling that the only truthful versions of said faith are those that follow what are extraneous state actors acting in their own interests.

Jacob Howard
Jacob Howard

Transhumanists and Technocrats

Josiah Brown
Josiah Brown

just embrace american nationalism, it's civic based
promote american values, whatever they are
le constitution or something

Jordan Kelly
Jordan Kelly

I can display respect towards people who held political beliefs different from mine but nonetheless exhibited above-average intellectual honesty and erudition, like say Raymond Aron or Yukio Mishima — but that doesn't mean I have sympathy for economic liberalism of romantic nationalism.

Jack Gutierrez
Jack Gutierrez

European immigration-restrictive nationalism with an ethnic tinge.
I really can't sympathize, or even empathize on a basic level, with the liberals proclaiming the possible end of identifiable european people groups as a non-issue and "why do you care" attitude when it's clear they feel 100% differently about every other people group on the face of the earth. Even worse when they're holding positions of some import in the EU.
I also worry the reaction will come down to full on ethnic nationalism and potentially even jingoism and revanchism in the end. (albeit the mass-immigrationist federalists in the EU all seem to have wet dreams about the notion of a jingoistic imperialist EU in the American vein)

Xavier White
Xavier White

Juche is pretty close to Not Socialism and Not Socialism is dank

Isaac Hernandez
Isaac Hernandez

the possible end of identifiable european people

There is no "possible end" of European whites in sight.

Logan Ortiz
Logan Ortiz

sargonites

That'd be a cool pokemon name

Nathaniel Wilson
Nathaniel Wilson

Liberals and social democrats.
They often agree that communism describes the perfect society, they just think it's impossible to achieve.
I respect that opinion, in fact, I don't even believe 100% that it can be achieved, but that we should still strive for it.

Charles Walker
Charles Walker

Liberals

It's easy to forget there's a bunch of poor black, gay, female and Hispanic and white liberals that slavishly vote dem because they are afraid of a return to Jim Crow.

This is what pisses me off about people on this board that defend Trump. They say it's due to white working class people are alienated by libs, but more poor whites voted Hillary than Trump

Logan Sullivan
Logan Sullivan

Poor white working class people that understand that white supremacy is bad for them too

Eli Morgan
Eli Morgan

people on this board
that defend trump

????????????

Caleb Jones
Caleb Jones

ancaps

I have no problem with letting them try Ancapistan near my matriarchal primitive commune

Owen King
Owen King

Post-Left anarchists.

Chase Gutierrez
Chase Gutierrez

Non-ethnic based fascism/ nationalism
But how

Levi Smith
Levi Smith

Non-ethnic based fascism/ nationalism
the fuck do you think Mussolini's new Rome was envisioned as?
Guy wanted to reintegrate sections of North Africa as 'former Roman territories' and had S.P.Q.R put on all the manholes on the sewers in Rome

Jacob Brooks
Jacob Brooks

(albeit the mass-immigrationist federalists in the EU all seem to have wet dreams about the notion of a jingoistic imperialist EU in the American vein)
Merkel seems committed to building an EU army as quick as possible so they can head East like Titor said and cause WW3 over either Ukraine or the decreasing situation in Turkey

Aiden Phillips
Aiden Phillips

Nationalism tbh.

I am a newly convert from Fascism, but I still cling to my race and nation and I can't seem to shake it.

Am I still a true gommie if I say 'fuck multiculturalism'?

Isaiah Morales
Isaiah Morales

Nationalism tbh.

I am a newly convert from Fascism, but I still cling to my race and nation and I can't seem to shake it.

Am I still a true gommie if I say 'fuck multiculturalism'?

Caleb Lee
Caleb Lee

More a 3P but then again Fidel may be 3P.

Mason Turner
Mason Turner

The international proletarian knows no race or nation.

Noah James
Noah James

Classical Liberals (AynCaps, Lolberts, Right-Libertarians)
assuming they're not the alt-right/neo-reactionary kind of "libertarians", they've got some right ideas about the state and civil liberties. They've just gotta make that leap with capitalism and see that mutualism is pretty lit and still got markets.

Social Democrats
Not leftist tbh, But, they're actually trying to fix the problems of capitalism, but they just don't realize they're making things worse.

Cooper Brooks
Cooper Brooks

i agree to this

also i think most ideologies are meant to do good and the people who belive in them truly belive they are what is best

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