How come I have never seen a picture or video of starving people or even slums from NK?

How come I have never seen a picture or video of starving people or even slums from NK?

Ask people who escaped there

Yeah you'd think they have some photographic evidence by now.
Mass starvation probably doesn't exist in NK the way liberal paint it, however, their food supply is austere to say the least, you don't starve, but you don't get to feast like in the West as well. There might be working camps with bad conditions but to be completely honest with you I'd doubt a single person in NK ever died of actual starvation.

If it was that horrible as they say Kim Yong Un would have been ousted from power by now, you overestimate the tolerance of humans for massive wide-scale oppression - even though they are Asians (who are traditionally more obedient).


You mean like the horribly oppressed exiled Cubans telling you about the horrors of the Castro regime? Yeah no thanks.

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Where did I say that? All I'm saying is that the so-called "oppressed opposition members" that seek refugee in Western media outlets are as genuine as everything NK propaganda spouts out. Remember the guy who claimed Kim Yong Un had his uncle torn apart by dogs? It's two sides of the same coin really.

They do the same shit with Russia nowadays by lifting some unpopular Oligarchs who got expropriated by Putin up to shining heros of liberal democracy.

Tbh loads of bad shit goes down in NK, but theres so much hypocrisy from the west. Like, neo lib US leaders throwing half their workers under a bus to get a 2% tarriff reduction then going "hurr lurrrk curmuniurrm fayuld! hurrrr"
Complaining about how they spy on everyone, then having the NSA. Talking about free press, then using the espionage act on journalists.

And for all the people especially brits laughing at how they mourned Kim Jon Il, just you fucking wait until the Queen dies, then see how much worse we are than them.

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Also, when the west criticises them for researching new weapons, whilst amassing way more advanced weapons literally all around them. It's a fucking joke. We're like a protection racket.

oh gasp what a shocker

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Been there. It's a poor country. Very much on the same level as say Central Asia or Siberian Russia.

Yes Starvation occured, between the early 90s and mid 00s, it was called the Arduous March. Caused by shitty agricultural policy and practices, collapse of 99% of their trade and mass annual flooding.

Though according to Felix Abt who lived there during the period doing aid shit, most died from lack of access to healthcare and medicine, so most died from preventable disease, not actual starvation.

None of you would want to live there, it's like peak Nanny-state. It's basically what I assume Nazi Germany would be like if it survived.

The poverty tough imo is overstated by the west. I went through some fucking shit areas where the famine hit the hardest (Chongjin) and again, pretty much in line with other poor asian regions. No where near as bad as much of India, Pakistan, Bangledesh, Myanmar, Cambodia, Laos etc.

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Makes sense, actually.

You never see much of anything from north Korea, though, do you?

I'd like to know what attracts people to defend it. Or rather, what they will admit, since I'm sure the flags and tanks and marches helped.

I've read claims that was entirely due to the Eastern Block collapse.

Blatant contrarianism combined with the desire to suck off any state that at least tips its hat to Stalin.

Check out DPRK 360 vids on YouTube.

Is today's modern China a socialist country?

State neoliberalism is only a transitional stage :^)
So we should soon have communism in the West as well !

Because the north korean government takes the pictures.

Well north korea litterally is a nazi state, just with slant eyes swapped for blue ones.

Are you pretending to be retarded? Western reporters have NK minders following them at all times.