How come I have never seen a picture or video of starving people or even slums...

Nolan Turner
Nolan Turner

How come I have never seen a picture or video of starving people or even slums from NK?

Thomas Allen
Thomas Allen

Ask people who escaped there

Charles Clark
Charles Clark

Yeah you'd think they have some photographic evidence by now.
Mass starvation probably doesn't exist in NK the way liberal paint it, however, their food supply is austere to say the least, you don't starve, but you don't get to feast like in the West as well. There might be working camps with bad conditions but to be completely honest with you I'd doubt a single person in NK ever died of actual starvation.

If it was that horrible as they say Kim Yong Un would have been ousted from power by now, you overestimate the tolerance of humans for massive wide-scale oppression - even though they are Asians (who are traditionally more obedient).

You mean like the horribly oppressed exiled Cubans telling you about the horrors of the Castro regime? Yeah no thanks.

Robert Wilson
Robert Wilson

You mean like the horribly oppressed exiled Cubans telling you about the horrors of the Castro regime? Yeah no thanks.
Thinking NK is same as cuba

Cooper Robinson
Cooper Robinson

Where did I say that? All I'm saying is that the so-called "oppressed opposition members" that seek refugee in Western media outlets are as genuine as everything NK propaganda spouts out. Remember the guy who claimed Kim Yong Un had his uncle torn apart by dogs? It's two sides of the same coin really.

They do the same shit with Russia nowadays by lifting some unpopular Oligarchs who got expropriated by Putin up to shining heros of liberal democracy.

Carter Stewart
Carter Stewart

Tbh loads of bad shit goes down in NK, but theres so much hypocrisy from the west. Like, neo lib US leaders throwing half their workers under a bus to get a 2% tarriff reduction then going "hurr lurrrk curmuniurrm fayuld! hurrrr"
Complaining about how they spy on everyone, then having the NSA. Talking about free press, then using the espionage act on journalists.

And for all the people especially brits laughing at how they mourned Kim Jon Il, just you fucking wait until the Queen dies, then see how much worse we are than them.

Andrew Lopez
Andrew Lopez

here
Jon = Jong

Also, when the west criticises them for researching new weapons, whilst amassing way more advanced weapons literally all around them. It's a fucking joke. We're like a protection racket.

Jack Lewis
Jack Lewis

Bourgeois sympathizers flees from the only socialist country on earth and then they spread reactionary, pro-imperialist lies
oh gasp what a shocker

Easton Rodriguez
Easton Rodriguez

socialist

Jace Mitchell
Jace Mitchell

Been there. It's a poor country. Very much on the same level as say Central Asia or Siberian Russia.

Yes Starvation occured, between the early 90s and mid 00s, it was called the Arduous March. Caused by shitty agricultural policy and practices, collapse of 99% of their trade and mass annual flooding.

Though according to Felix Abt who lived there during the period doing aid shit, most died from lack of access to healthcare and medicine, so most died from preventable disease, not actual starvation.

None of you would want to live there, it's like peak Nanny-state. It's basically what I assume Nazi Germany would be like if it survived.

The poverty tough imo is overstated by the west. I went through some fucking shit areas where the famine hit the hardest (Chongjin) and again, pretty much in line with other poor asian regions. No where near as bad as much of India, Pakistan, Bangledesh, Myanmar, Cambodia, Laos etc.

Andrew Jackson
Andrew Jackson

le trotskyism is the only true socialism XD
le state "capitalism" totally isn't an socialist transition stage

Juan Jackson
Juan Jackson

It's basically what I assume Nazi Germany would be like if it survived.
Makes sense, actually.

William Evans
William Evans

You never see much of anything from north Korea, though, do you?

I'd like to know what attracts people to defend it. Or rather, what they will admit, since I'm sure the flags and tanks and marches helped.

Easton James
Easton James

Yes Starvation occured, between the early 90s and mid 00s, it was called the Arduous March. Caused by shitty agricultural policy and practices, collapse of 99% of their trade and mass annual flooding.
I've read claims that was entirely due to the Eastern Block collapse.

Christopher Rogers
Christopher Rogers

Blatant contrarianism combined with the desire to suck off any state that at least tips its hat to Stalin.

Benjamin Miller
Benjamin Miller

Check out DPRK 360 vids on YouTube.

Aaron Watson
Aaron Watson

Is today's modern China a socialist country?

Levi Flores
Levi Flores

State neoliberalism is only a transitional stage :^)
So we should soon have communism in the West as well !

Isaac Morgan
Isaac Morgan

Because the north korean government takes the pictures.

Landon Hill
Landon Hill

It's basically what I assume Nazi Germany would be like if it survived.
Well north korea litterally is a nazi state, just with slant eyes swapped for blue ones.

Carter Morris
Carter Morris

Are you pretending to be retarded? Western reporters have NK minders following them at all times.

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