Millennials aren't opening credit cards. That's a mistake

Millennials aren't opening credit cards. That's a mistake

Millennials don't use credit cards like their parents – or their grandparents.

Less than a third of Millennials say they have a credit card, while more than half of people age 30-49 own one and nearly 70% of people over 65 do, according to 2016 Bankrate survey.

Financial experts say it's the fear of debt that explains why young people are shying away from credit.

"Millennials have been stigmatized by debt," explains Douglas Boneparth, president of Bone Fide Wealth in New York and co-author of The Millennial Money Fix. "They've witnessed firsthand the effects that mishandling debt can bring."

Many watched parents or friends slip into debt during the 2008 financial crisis. Others have been crippled by student loans that take years to pay off.

Experiences like that have made Millennials wary of spending money they don't have and more likely to rely on debit cards or cash, according to Bill Pratt, author of The 7 Things Every College Student Needs to Know About Credit, Debt & Ca$h.

Consumer protection laws passed after the crisis also contribute to the generational gap. The CARD Act of 2009 makes it harder for Millennials to qualify for a credit card unless they can prove they have enough income to pay it back.

While being cautious about taking on too much debt is smart, experts agree using credit cards – responsibly – can lead to benefits down the road.

1. Building a credit score

Thinking about taking out a loan for a new car or your first home?

Good luck if you don't have a credit score.

Your score is one of the first things lenders will check. It helps lenders see that you've been reliable with credit in the past. That might be tough to prove if you haven't opened a card or been using it lately.

For younger people, credit cards and student loans are often the first and only things showing up on their credit reports. If you don't have enough credit history, you might not even have a credit score.

A strong credit score not only helps you get a loan, it'll secure you better interest rates and save you money in the long run.

It might even mean the difference between landing a job or being able to rent an apartment.

"Showing lenders you are responsible with credit usage can have a positive long term impact," says Ashley Foster, a certified financial planner in Houston.

2. Rewards, rewards, rewards

Credit cards provide great opportunities to score rewards for your day-to-day spending.

"When done right and responsibly, you can leverage your accumulated rewards to accomplish your goals without breaking the bank," says San Francisco CFP George Galat.

Avoid chasing rewards because that can lead to spending beyond your means.

But do take advantage of credit card offers that allow you to maintain your usual spending habits, Galat advises.

Analyzing your current and past spending history will help you determine which rewards program is the best fit, notes Atlanta CFP Serina Shyu. For example, if you spend a lot of money on, say, groceries, travel, or restaurants, look for cards that maximize rewards in those categories.

If you're going for travel reward points, look for cards that offer versatile rewards that can be cashed in multiple ways. If you're not a big traveler, a cash back card might be the way to go.

3. Fraud protection

Another compelling reason to opt for credit cards over debit cards is because they're a better safeguard against potential fraud.

That's because consumer protection laws treat credit cards differently than debit cards.

You're not personally liable for more than $50 for credit card fraud. If your debit card gets stolen, however, you could be on the hook for $500 or more depending on how quickly you report the charge.

Additionally, if there's fraud on your credit card you won't feel the loss in your pocket because the money isn't drawn directly from your account as it is with a debit card.

Plus, if someone uses your debit card and the money is taken directly from your checking account, that can immediately lead to overdraft fees, according to Ryan Fuchs, a CFP in Dallas.

It can also take weeks to resolve debit card fraud disputes and get your money back, Fuchs says, so you might be stuck if you need to pay rent or buy groceries in the meantime.

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The only reason I used them is that I'm stinking rich and I actually don't give a shit about the (((interest))).

(Also if I cash in my crypto right now I'm going to get murdered in taxes.)

Long term capital gain taxes is only 25%. Just hold investment for a year for that rate.

Trust me.

>I won't fuck you over and demand repayment after a (((stock market))) (((crash)))
>You can always repay (((me))) as long as you sign your soul to me goy
Gas yourself

if you have a million dollars of profit and you sell before holding your shares for 365 days, you would get raped with around a 50% tax rate of State and Federal taxes combined.

Versus 25% if you hold for 365 days.

Credit cards are a fucking scam Moishe

why are you saging?

Is Nathaniel Meyersohn a Jewish name?

That's what happened to me and my wife last year, didn't pay the correct amount for Obamacare percentage of income and now have to pay $20,000 to the IRS for one fucking years worth. Fucking niggers and Jews.

I believe this is what
BUY THE FUCKING DIP
means. So, no, fuck you.

I throw everything on my card and pay it off within the month. No interest and I get about $200 in cash back each year

15% or 20% depending on income.

Economy or finance related threads are fine but you gotta put some effort and not just repost any fucking kike article without adding anything to start the discussion. If you don't really have anything worthwhile to say about the subject don't bother making a thread about it. That's how it used to be before faggots such as yourself got here.

fuck off
fuck banks too
cash in a mattress for life, anything else and you're asking for a jewish dick up your ass

it's a cnn article.

Why do millennials think Credit card=debt? Why not use it to keep track of how much you're spending each month? Be smart and think ahead of all your purchases, I get by without paying more than $200 a month for everything that isn't tax related, because I've cut out everything useless from my purchases. It's not that difficult and is a nice reminder to be frugal.

What? The Jews are gnashing their teeth.

< Why won't you play our game?!!!!

Cash only then when shtf you barter

OY VEY IT'S A HOLOCAUST

how can you have a credit score without a credit card?

Maybe when businesses realize Millenials aren't going to be buying their shit because they aren't eager to charge it to the plastic Jew, they'll adjust prices and we'll fix some shit.

I understand how to get good credit, but aside from fucking loans why would you want to? The game is pay into enough for the (((banks))) to say you're a good enough goy to lend to because you'll pay them back, and if shit fucking goes down and you drop the ball you're just fucked. The only winning move is not to play.

What is the point of building credit if you can't be denied access to utilities and any sensible person should buy their home/car in cash whenever necessary?

The best thing that happened in my life was getting into a personal crisis that created financial stress, ultimately resulting in going into debt and ruining my credit score. I cannot get a loan. Now I live within my means. Never been happier. I have $6,000 worth of savings, own my car without a loan, and zero debt.

That's where you're wrong kiddo. If you need credit to buy something, YOU CAN'T AFFORD IT.

Unsecured consumer debt is over 1t in the US now. The jew ruins lives with his fake, debt based money. Work hard, save, don't be a wasteful and impulsive bitch.

Fucking parasites. That's like saying go to a casino that gives out a bunch of free drinks when you are gambling, "to save money on alcohol in the long run." If you owe money on a credit card, you are a literal slave

O F F S H O R E

you realize they track all of those purchases to build a marketing and psychological profile of you and then sell that data to marketers as well as give access to cia niggers who wish to pry your mind.

you get 200$ / yr, they make more than that off selling the data to marketers and you've surrendered your privacy. you should value your anonymity more.

Biggest load of shit. What matters is how much cash you have, the rate you earn it and the consistency you've been earning it.

A casual contractor on 80K will have a harder time than a permanent on 80K


You pay for those rewards in fees. That's why annual fee cards have no rewards. The stupidity knows no bounds.


Guessing that's a dumb American thing. How you lose a card and don't block your account instantly I will never know. Don't even need to call your bank anymore to put a block on a card.

GIT GUD.

I'd love it if people stopped using credit cards for everything, I have to charge everybody 3% more because everybody has stupid fucking rewards cards. More cashflow that I can't use for anything but thousand dollar monthly payments to moneris. Its illegal for me to charge differently depending on what you use so everybody gets screwed.

All in all its a good thing, bad for the cheap shovelware merchandise stores but who gives a shit, they've had a bubble inflated over decades because boomers didn't need to save for retirement and just bought shit like nouveau riche niggers

video related is a good talk. guy talks about this data and how it gets used. watch if you have the time.

Hey retard, you aren't poor are you? Kikes always do whatever they can to make life harder for poor whites.
I can get/or have a no fee's attached credit card with rewards as long as I pay it off and pay no interest on it every cycle. So fuck you.
The reddit spacing gives away your retardedness btw. Hi stupid boomer burger.

Fuck your reddit spacing.

You use credit cards that get payed off every month on kikes companies for rewards. But pay in cash for local buisnesses and non kikes companies of a medium size since all the large ones are kiked. Fuck car dealers btw. Biggest giga kikes if I ever saw one.

2 best decisions of my life, not having a credit card and not having a cellphone. I know so many people who ruined their lifes because of debt and went nuts, broke or plain depressive.

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privacy.com + a masking email service is pretty dope; I kek everytime I buy something or amazon or whatnot anonymously.

Yep.
20-25% interest really fucks a person over quickly.

Filling their profiler system with bullshit is more effective than simply disappearing.

Sign up for my platinum-gold plated 5-star executive rewards card goy! You get 1 point for every dollar you spend! Look you can buy a colourful toaster for only 50,000 points! Just a small yearly fee of $49.99 to cover administration :^). Don't you want to be part of our exclusive club?

This, fill it with bullshit and remember who pays the debt. No one but the kikes at burgerlands (((federal reserve))), only what you pay kikes matters. Save as much labor/money outside of their control as you can.

most people aren't going to do that, user definitely isn't he's throwing everything on the card. even if you do so you're spending money, by definition on bullshit, in order to do so. disappearing is the best response. cash, bitcoin, or barter is best.

same here. renting an apartment is a bitch, though.

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Usury is theft.

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but comparing to adnauseam is disingenuous. using adnauseam versus buying bullshit with credit cards just to fuck with databases is completely different.

we need more finance threads anons need to learn how to into money. go make a finance thread with a better op and link it here and i'll stop bumping this one.

Fun fact: Any interest on debt is usury.

Pick one

That one is bullshit. The best credit score you can have is : I never had to take a loan.

Spending more for a reward of a few per thousands is retarded.


I'm not against interest, equity or loans. I will take a loan when I'll buy my house. But you have to limit them to important expenses. I'm glad that I'm debt free.
Using a credit card for you day to day expenses is retarded. It will put you in a difficult situation for nothing. A few restaurants? vacations? a few electronic devices? Not worth being a debt slave imho.
A house, yes. A car, yes.
But spending 120% of your salary on frivolities like boomers did, fuck no.

Im with this faggot. Shortage of currency/savings/beating the jew at their own game threads

Every time you pay with a credit card shlomo gets a cut.

Another good news for the future generations.

I still cannot fathom all the stories I hear about people paying the minimum on their cards and maxing them out every month. I can't wait for the crash so I can kill these people for sport for wiping out the value of my savings. I will feel morally justified and vindicated in doing so.

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Sometimes a cc is necessary. Not often, but once or twice a year I need a card. So…I went to the local credit union and asked for a "secured" credit card. I put $2K (can be any amount) in a savings account (at a decent rate of interest), and they gave me a visa card. Now I borrow the money from myself - up to $2K - and there's absolutely no risk of going into debt…and no interest payments for mr (((visa))).

Oh the jews are kvetching again
Fuck debt
Fuck credit
Fuck banks

Don't be angry at them. Their just causing the system to fail faster and jewing the jew. Be angry at the kikes who enabled this usury based system in the first place.

Isn't credit and constant borrowing and use of it, alongside the finite nature of goods and services one of the primary causes of inflation?

Read this chart. The answer is yes. But the major barrowers are kikes.

You what, goyim!? Dis will destroy da economy!

if you dont have a credit card, id say dont be in a rush to get one unless you have a family relying on you and might need emergency money. I was a stupid fuck and built up debt from not having a job for a while and other shit I wont get into. Only use a credit card in an emergency, and if you wanna build credit, plan ahead to buy something then pay it all off asap.
im 31 and have had credit card debt for years. It has been hell, life has been hard but theres still no excuse for me to be in debt like this. Ill have it ALL paid off (over 20k by now) in 4 months. fucking finally. lately ive been living below EBT nigger standards to pay it off. I make 50k a year now but dont live like it, be very careful with getting debt.

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I'm part of that third. I literally only use it for online purchases and pay it off a few minutes after each purchase. I cannot understand why people max out their cards and spend money they don't have.

Kike cunts. Is generation Redpill not swallowing your cock? Fuck you.
Fuck them at every turn. Use crypto. Trade fucking livestock, anything but pay these cunts.

Nope. I don't buy stuff I can't afford. Glad to hear I'm less and less alone.

Oy vey dont you know we need ursur- I mean fair and sensible credit?? This is another shoa!

If you want a glimpse at what happens to countries that live far above their sustainable level while also having a lazy, stupid population look no further than Greece or Italy. Do you want be Greece or Italy, America?

This. Be sure not to save too much cash, turn as much as you can into useful barter material.

This.
Could this idea be anymore Jewish?

Exactly, and don't buy silver/gold for barter. That stuff will be only useful after shtf is over, but no one trades it in the middle of shtf. Just have a bit of it to get a good start when things normalize again.

i clipped up a credit card on instagram and then deleted the image, as like a stunt, hey kids follow me. Probably worked tbh

Taking a loan for a flat or an house can be justified.
You're trading renting for a mortgage.
Because saving enough to buy a flat with cash can take a very long time and paying rent during said period is worse than interest on a mortgage.

Is there a point to the CIA niggers tracking this info? I don't consume their media. I never watch movies, buy their games, their entertainment. All I buy are necessities and everything I can made by whites and non-jews.
What is the point of collecting my purchasing habits if there's no way they can advertise to me to get me to buy their jewish products?

There's only one person more stingy than a jew, an anti-semite.

I have a Debit card if I get a credit card can I use it similarly?

Also this is untrue about the lack of protection on debit cards as they usually come with 100k worth of protection. Otherwise no one would use one of those swipe cards.

You don't need any of that credit shit. Buy used cars, learn to fix them (at least the basics, not necessarily rebuilding motors). Buy an empty property lot and build a small cabin, or park an RV there until you have enough saved up to build a house. It'll be a whole lot cheaper than paying all that interest to jew bankers over 30 years. The funny thing about compound interest is that it works in BOTH directions. You can choose to pay them, or you can choose to pay yourself.
And those so-called "rewards" are tiny, almost insignificant, but still insidious because they keep you in the game, thus leaving an opening for you to fuck up at some point. That's the only reason they even exist. Sort of like high rollers who get COMPED thousands of dollars of sushi, just so they keep coming back, because they'll lose eventually. On the aggregate level, the house always wins in the end. It HAS to be that way, or those businesses wouldn't exist.

I fell for the college meme and the STEM meme. Now I live with my parents like a fucking neet. I have a McJob, but I'm still crushed with debt.

Did you get that degree? Are you white?

If yes to both of those you can be getting $$$ overseas. More on this later.

I'm saving to buy some property tax-free land, and I already own a camper capable of off grid living that I can stay in while I build my real home. It'll take me a little longer to get what I want, but I'm not living beyond my means, and I'm not paying into a system I consider immoral.


Yeah, I have a little gold and silver for that reason. The majority of my wealth remains in actually useful stuff.

That maybe a good solution. I suppose you live in the countryside.

No, I live in a city, but a small one. There's wilderness close enough to town that I can live in the woods, and work in town with no hassle. My plan is to get land just far enough away that I won't have to pay tax on it, and it'll only take me 30 - 40 minutes to get to town, so I can keep doing my current job while I also work on cultivating personal capital (marketable skills). Eventually I should be completely self sufficient.

I'm determined. I split up with a non-degenerate woman, that was nonetheless slowing my progress (relationships take time), to focus on this plan, and my personal fulfillment.

You fucked up.

There are moments when it feels that way, but you can't have a relationship if you're not ready to put in the time, or if you're simply not good enough in your own eyes to be in charge of a woman, and any children you may have. I didn't realize before dating her that I was not ready to head a household.

Remember, fulfillment does not come from other people, it only comes from you; and it's also a disservice to tie down a woman, and create people without first being confident in your own ability to lead them.

No bump 'cause I'm blogging.

OY FUCKING VEY GOYIM
HOW DARE YOU BE SCARED OF DEBT
NOW OPEN A CREDIT CARD, GET A STUDENT LOAN, GET A AUTOMOBILE LOAN AND GET A MORTGAGE

(checked)
Numbers can't lie. I'm calling by bank right now. Thank you, Shlomo. You are truly my greatest ally.

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Fuck that

He's still making bank. Like anonymity is actually going to help you unless you decide to go on a crime spree

total bullshit, if you pay off your card every month for 10 years, you still can't get a loan

They want you paying min payments.

Cash is worth about as much as the 1s and 0s at this point. They are called "bank notes" for a reason.

LIVING THE DREAM

I paid back the last of my $12,000 CDN loan in January, have several thousand saved up, and rent from family. I bike or take the bus to work, enjoy my job and coworkers, and have no particular addictions or self destructive habits. I didn't get what I want, but I'm happy and debt free

there's a thing called bitcoin, you might want to buy it

Not just bitcoin. Have a variety of investments and other things of worth.
-Bitcoin
-cash
-gold/silver
-property
-valuables that won't depreciate
-guns/ammo and things to barter with in case we go mad max someday
All of that will be hard for (((them))) to detect, as long as you keep it out of a bank account or credit history, they will never know what your financial status is, which gives them less power over you.

What do you want now, and are you working towards it? A life spent trying and failing to get what you want is better than a life spent playing it safe. Also any effort you exert is likely to, if not achieve your goals, at least elevate you from your current position and give you something to feel good about.

Most important investment: skills.

Skills and knowledge are also there, but I meant monetary investments. Personal investments to better yourself are a given, always try to improve yourself.

But I guarantee you you've used pic related, which is no different.

Same.

I have one account in the bank and 1 card which holds most of my $$$.
I have a second card in Euros I use for internet shopping, and that only has a tiny amount.

Never took loans, never went into debt and I never will. Fuck banks.

Hey guys super important what is the typical pay per hour in america? Is 19USD per hour good?

If you exist in society, have ever spent a dime, or visited a website, you're already playing their game. Being in control of your finances and having excellent credit is how you fuck them over.
If you've ever payed interest on anything, then that's where you done goofed. Having exceptional credit implies you don't do that very often if at all.
Just use your common white sense and pay cash at small businesses. They're the ones who foot the Jew bill.

It's decent. If you can't live on that you need to downsize.

Coffee and cigarettes. That's what people used to trade during the Great Depression. Won't go bad and will always be in demand.

it's poorfag-tier tbh


wat, anyone living with 19$ should aim to have much better standards

This. This is literal nigger behaviour.

It's a qualified worker's pay. Plumber, electrician, this kind of job.
Good if you have progression possibilities.

those people are not qualified workers. a dindu could do their job, do the math

I got 9€/h - 40% taxes

Me and my brother do not have them. He is strictly debit card and I'm a poorfag NEET. The banking crisis from '08 scared a lot of people away from accumulating debt and financial problems.

I said if you CAN'T live on that you need to downsize. I said nothing about not aiming higher.

Thanks for your feedback guys. What if the 19 USD is after tax (forgot to mention) and I am doing 25 hours a week and saving 50% + while having a "hood rich" lifestyle?

Also yes there is room for scaling. If this works out for me I could offer other disenfranchised whites (who do not have criminal records) similar opportunity.

Explicitly illegal in most Euro countries, but perhaps in the US it could work.


Yes, but the expat approach has its own pitfalls.


I see you don't live in the EU. They fuck you up real good for the slightest suspicion of tex evasion.


Until you need one. Are you still living in your mom's basement?

Blog post : With my parents, my uncle and aunt, I have 8 boomers couples in my family. Almost all retired now.

Only one of my uncle have been careful with the credit jews.
He always paid everything cash, and took only a credit for his house.

Now is the richest of them all. Others had better jobs, better pays. They all overspent except him.
Fuck little credits, consummation credit or car leasings.

Business use credit only for investment purpose. If a business start to use credit for it's day to day expenses, it's a dying business.


Where do you live? That's poorfag tier in western europe, would be bretty gud in Romania for example.

I work in Nederlands

it's not how it works. a surgeon is a qualified worker because it would literally take me years and years of hard work and study to acquire his skills, while most of the things - let's say the 80%- you'd need an electician or a plumber for are easy enough to require some basic knowledge of the field a bit of patience and a good learning attitude

holy shit do people actually do this?
that shit loses half of it's value the moment you bought it.

For whom?

Guys I am actually enjoying this thread even though it is more Holla Forums lifestyle we are allowed to have some fun post election so it is fine.

So far the only thing that I am thinking is bad about it is that I am not actively putting down roots. And the white women I meet there will be educated but maybe not the best for a brood mother for my champions.


Just buy a Japanese car from the 90s they are actually much better than the new ones not even kidding. I've got a Prelude Type R.

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A $2k - $3k car gets you to your destination just as well. I have 3 working vehicles, all from the 90s. If one breaks down, whoopty dick, I have two others. Altogether they cost a fraction of 1 new car.

Semantics. Of course a surgeon is highly qualified, but e.g. electricians (good electricians, that is) aren't pleb tier, either. Here in Krautstan they need to learn for three years, have quite stringent examinations and need to stay on top of their game, legal stuff, building regulations. In LatAm or Africa it's different, of course, but I wouldn't let those touch my cabling in the first place.


Don't forget things like working permit, residency, tax stuff etc. Even or especially in so-called 1st world countries.

And easier to work on. My friend has a 2007 subaru outback, and he said it took 4 hours to change a headlight and he had to take off a wheel.

That's why you offer a cash discount. That's how everyone gets around that here.Very common at gas stations. Cash is almost always 5-10cents cheaper a gallon if paying in cash. Most other types of places offer a 3% discount if paying by cash.

All those are sorted by the school and fully legal. The thing I am thinking of that is something that may be a problem is what to do with the money so it will be paid directly into the foreign account then I've gotta get it back to my home account somehow.

I bet the Chinese ETC have systems for this and whites are too "good goy" to know these tricks.


Some modern car designs are entirely made to be disposable. Like all these cheap "smart cars" nothing "smart" about buying a cheapo deathtrap with no power.

If you absolutely need to have a credit card you should only use it for shit like gas and bills. Don't purchase outside your means.

That's not the definition of a qualified worker.
Being a manoeuvre for example is not qualified work. Or a cashier. Anyone can do that in 3 day training.

Electricity, plumbing, roofing, bircklaying -> Those are qualified jobs that demand trade school or years of practice to master.

In the medical field nurses are qualified workers. Cleaning ladies are not.

My previous job manage claims for clients dissatisfied with their contractor.
And protip : nigger can't be plumber or electricians. You don't need to be super intelligent to be a plumber or an electrician, but you need at least a 90 IQ and some discipline.
Pic related are examples of nigger/arab work

Where are you from? Surely that can't be illegal? Seems like a law proposed by Visa and MasterCard lobbyists.

Why not just keep track of how much you're spending each month?

As an electrician, those pics hurt to look at.

Jesus fuck, I worked for a hotel doing maintenance for $12 ph and did better work then that. But then I'm white.

Not millennials. The only point that has any impact is getting a mortgage loan. If someone has the desire to get a mortgage in the future, then 2 years rent history, 1 year credit card history, and assets to cover 20% of the loan is sufficient. It isn't worth it to get a mortgage unless there is a clear indication the housing market will go up.

they require no more than few months of study tbh

Good!

Very related to your pictures.

B-but Chinese are have the highest I.Q on the planet according to the Chinese. They should be able to build!

Reminded me of a PDF i saw the other day.

wmfc.org/uploads/GenerationalDifferencesChart.pdf

btw: couldn't upload the pdf for some reason; tought you could upload pdfs on Holla Forums in the past?

I should have re-read this before posting.
Sorry for my bad English

A few more pics of the results or niggerwork.
All entrepreneurs pay for these fuck-ups. In their insurances.

Yep. A good tradesman (bricklayer, electrician, plumber etc.) is worth his pay, and more. I sometimes tip and offer food as well. Good work lets you sleep better and saves a lot of money down the road.

I think they can. They just don't care.

Feels nice to see credit card kikes and banks REEEE'ing this hard. Fuck your credit scam, the goyim know

they do, but as serpentza suggests in the video they just don't have a good maintenance culture. it's part of their business model, not just a random choice

Roofing and laying bricks yes I agree, plumbing is a little harder with drains being the hardest part if you dont get them pitched correctly they fuck up forever and last electricity if for the only reason if you become a master electrician you can wire pic 1 and not just pic 2

real thread related question here:
On the No Agenda show I heard Adam talking about how one could get his FICO score frozen. You guys know anything about that?

Yeah it's called "freezing your credit". You can go to any one of the big 3 credit agencies and have it done. Be sure to understand exactly what you are doing when it's done. And keep every single last shred of communication, evidence, and paper trail while you are going through the process. It shouldn't be much, but it will be helpful when you go to un-freeze your credit score in the future, such as when you're in the market for a house/land or other significant asset purchase.

I know a guy that had it done once. It's kind of a hassle (can't use credit cards, can't open any new accounts, etc), especially when it comes time to unfreeze, but is useful for specific circumstances and situations.

REMINDER

When you're at a mom and pop shop, use cash. They have to pay some kind of tax to the kikes when you use your credit card. They also save money when it comes to taxes *cough cough*

A black guy at work cashed out his 401k and bought a new red Cadillac with the cash.
The guy lives in a ghetto part of the ghetto, and amazingly it hasn't been stolen yet.

Aren't 401k made for retirement?

I've been offered several, I refused.

>I'm stinking rich and I actually don't give a shit about the (((interest)))
Thats contradictory.

You currently have a large sum of money, you cannot be "rich" while having a poor financial IQ

I opened a credit card at the end of high school and only used it to charge my phone bill, then paid it off every month. I managed to get a 750 credit score before graduating from college by just doing that.

So much meh tier advice in this thread. Let me break it down for you all regarding finance…

Some things you need to understand.

1. Inflation. This means that your dollars / other units of currency are worth less over time. So stop thinking in terms of "dollars" and think in terms of "buying power".

2. Because of inflation, you need to earn more money than the current inflation rate to have a a "real" return on your investment. For example if inflation is 3% and your savings account earns you 1.5% you are being jewed out of 1.5% per year which is insane.

3. This leads to the next point, you should keep your money in something that is "inflation immune". That is, its underlying value is not affected by an increase of monetary supply or volume outside of your control.

4. These "inflation immune" assets can be divided into two categories, Speculative assets and Investment assets.

Speculative assets are assets like land, gold, silver, bitcoin, ethereum etc that basically depend on supply and demand to set the price. You do not really know if they will go up or go down (either is just as likely unless you have a much clearer picture of the future than other people). 20% of your money should be in these speculative assets. Probably 3-5% gold/silver in case of a mad max style collapse, other 17% in cryptocurrencies (to protect against governmental confiscation of other types of your assets) / land if you can afford it (rural area, ability to be self sufficient grow your own food, get water etc). And probably consider the cost of a gun in this too.

The next type, investment assets are what you should be using to grow your wealth and should consist of 80% of your money. Investments assets do not really depend on supply/demand to set the price (well they do technically over the short term but not the long term). These need to be "inflation immune" assets namely stocks, bonds, private equity. Basically you need to own a party of a company (either public or private) and bonds. You may wonder why stocks are "inflation immune" isn't their cost denominated in dollars? Well yes it is, but consider that their profit is denominated in dollars too, so the only thing that really matters is profit (in dollars) divided by the cost of the stock (in dollars) which means the dollars cancel out. Basically consider that the company doesn't really matter what it trades in, could use dollars, euros, yen etc or whatever the profit is relative to the cost, so the unit of trade cancels out.

5. Bonus points, consider retirement funds like 401k IRA or whatever the fuck you yanks use. (Superannuation for us Aussies).

Read bogleheads website related to your country too.
bogleheads.org/wiki/Investing_in_Australia

tl;dr
3% of your money in gold/silver
17% of your money in cryptos (bitcoin / ethereum) / land / starting a business if you are ballsy
10% of your money in bonds
70% of your money in stocks (like a vanguard index fund ETF, read bogleheads and this link mrmoneymustache.com/2011/05/18/how-to-make-money-in-the-stock-market/)

yeah but you can take an enormous penalty to withdraw it early. my ex did it when changing jobs, they charged her and I laughed because it was nigger behavior, then I dumped her.

Teach me sempai

I honestly don't see the fucking point of a credit card

They are but you can "cash them out". You'll pay tax immediately and will also get hit with an early-withdrawl penalty.

It's useful when you want to get your portfolio out of the market and 'liquid'. Personally, I rolled my assets over into a self-directed IRA/401k. You can move money into that account and have control over it without it being subject to some shiteating Jew 'financial advisor' drawing brokerage fees and other kike bloodsucking fees. IRS allows me to purchase PMs and keep them in my possession with that money without having to take early withdrawal fees or other penalties. Gets my money out of the kike boom-bust musical chairs game, while allowing me to be as liquid as possible.

And before the inevitable "haha they're going to come for your shekels" screed from the usual shill suspects, let's just say that if they're coming for my shekels, they'll likely be coming for other things of mine as well so it's a moot point.

There is literally no reason to have a credit card.

I keep a few around for emergencies. I have savings but CCs are useful if you simply understand the danger of them. They are kike time bombs to niggers and other fools that lack self-control and discipline - i.e. 90% of Americans/others who use them for everything. Which is why they should be outlawed (as well as all other forms of Usury), but I have been able to not fall for schlomo's tricks.

How can I buy property without loans or credit?

Exactly this.

If you use a credit card for emergencies only, it can be beneficial because it allows you to invest more of your money as I mentioned in my post above.


You basically need to calculate whether the extra invested money is worth it over time.

For example if your credit card is 15% interest, and the stock market earns you 10%, and you only very occasionally need to dip into the credit card (like once a year or two when something goes wrong like car repairs) it can make more sense to keep a credit card for emergencies only, and just keep the rest of your money in the stock market / other investments.

But yes if you are paying interest on it continually you are getting jewed.

Not even a christfag, but credit scores are the (((mark of the beast.)))

Make more money. Buy in one go. Ally with people you trust and buy property together. Sometimes you can do owner financing if you pay enough up front. It's not impossible.

Well unfortunately the property market is Kiked
If it wasn't kiked then the answer would be to save up

I've bought a house in eastern europe if SHTF.

I honestly don't know how you can spare enough to buy a one million € flat in Paris or London before you're 65.

Child sex slavery is very profitable, thats my guess.

Could this article be any more jewish?

That's the sort of approach you take when you have no idea what to do with money. A person needs goals outside of acquiring and maintaining wealth.

This.

Normalfag levels of advice. Could've cut and pasted that shit from any Jew website. The idea of having 70% of your shit in this tulip-bulb market is simply outrageous. Once this bitch pops, say goodbye to everything. The Jews are already calling the upcoming shitshow the liquidity crisis in preparation for the upcoming fleecing of the peasantry (as happens every 8 years or so).

businessinsider.com/stock-market-news-jpmorgan-explains-next-financial-crisis-2017-10

Guess what the majority of the "less than one third of millennials" are…

I've always heard :
1/3 in stones. Long term, no liquidity. Some life insurances or retirement plans fall in this category
1/3 in middle term investments, bonds, stocks.
1/3 in liquidity. Currencies, Gold, Silver…

70% in stocks seems excessive. And risky.

Eventually private companies will sell or turn over this data to the government should the right situation arise. Remember how FEMA and DHS were telling people to rat on preppers? At first it will just be to track spending habits at a grocery store or whatever, but eventually those metrics will probably be used to build a profile of the consumer for other purposes…

Labor and goods are the only things worth a shit after a collapse, it is one of the reasons that those emergency agencies got the greenlight from obongo to confiscate weapons and food in a real catastrophic situation. That green paper from the fed isn't edible and it wont grow arms and legs to perform labor. The most useful thing you can do with paper money after a collapse if it never recovers is burn it for kindling, which ironically is destruction of currency and illegal.

That is the most obvious location, you're asking to be robbed by your own family members and friends. If you can't think of somewhere to put something 2.61 inches x 6.14 inches you have problems.

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Of course that's what you've always heard. It's what I've also always heard. For a reason.

It's antiquated info based on NORMAL behavior of a functional market. However what we have is NOT a normal market. It's a kiked-up rigged game of musical chairs. As such, pretending it is a normal market (and hence subject to 'normal' market thinking — aka the 1/3;1/3;1/3 ratio) is a recipe for disaster.

People never remember that the number on their monthly 401(k) statement from Vanguard/etc isn't real. It's ink on a piece of paper. It's not REAL until you cash the fuck out and get that cash in hand. Until then it's all imaginary kikery. It makes you psychologically "feel" good about the future. It's might as well be a statement from Bernie Madoff account brokerage services.

I cashed out/moved my assets to a SD account about a year ago. No I don't care that I've "missed out" on so-called market gains since then. It's all fucking rigged and retarded. Even the goddamn giga-kikes the Rothschilds have a saying that's become axiomatic in Jew-circles: "leave the last 20% to the peasants". Or some derivation thereof. Roughly translated, it means "don't worry about the last 20% of the gains —- just get out and let the remaining suckers soak up the losses".

This market is so fucked. Every day someone leaves their shit in their account is another day they risk a market shutting down. Remember that "glitch" in the market that halted trading cohencidentally after China had their crash? Yeah, "no cashing out for you, goy". Your money isn't yours unless it is in your hands and in your control.

I don't have this situation, but I'd be way more comfortable with cash stuffed in a mattress than inside the Jew-run banking/stock paradigm. Fuck I can't believe people think that is LESS secure than inside a brokerage account or other electronic medium.

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but I don't get it, I use a credit card for online purchases and I pay it back right after I bought whatever I did. Is there anything wrong with that? I don't know much about banking, interest, money, that sort of thing.

Yea, its such a meme that burglars pretty much look there first. They go for jewelry, and money under the bed, small safes in the closet or whatever. Theres a few videos on youtube by career criminals who were forced by police to make videos telling people how to avoid being robbed.

Yes. There are loopholes where you can have non dept related payments reported such as rental and utilities payment history. Fuck KikesterCard and fuck usury.

*debt
Fuck, I am an hero.

Anyone have good recommendations for books on business, especially personal finance? I've recently finished Art of The Deal and now looking for something more about how to spend/save/invest responsibly.

Glad these people are making the distinction for us, that we are not the "new right". I always enjoy seeing one of these aut kikers openly admit they are themselves antifa, antifascist, anti National Socialist.

I think "cash in the mattress" is just a figure of speech. Like "saving for a rainy day".

I doubt he literally keeps his cash in his bed.

Well I don't have one either and not only because of debt, fuck the jews trying to get rid of cash.

Lonans for a house/car tops.


Hard in Europe to get ammo/the sticks to use it with, which makes the other kinda pointless because you cant protect them from just being taken from you.

Apparently lots of people do, because career criminals consider it one of their main places to check.

I really like the Hidden Secrets of money on Youtube. It's a good primer of info regarding monetary policy. People can agree/disagree on the effectivness of PM acquisition in today's environment, but just understanding the Jew banking scheme in the first 4-ish episodes make it extremely important.

In my opinion, most books nowadays are full of kiked up shit pushing obsolete finanicial information and dis-information designed to fleece you. "Omg how did this happen? All my advisors told me that bonds and mutual funds were safe havens!!".

Venezuela proves that the market number can move to literally infinity but it doesn't mean shit if you can't find any food to buy with your wheelbarrows full of worthless fiat notes. An economic crash and that stupid number on the DJIA/S&P don't correlate. Even though the entirety of the ((MSM)) would have you believe other wise: "Stupid goy, our economy is doing fine —- just look at the magic number in the corner of our, em, THE news station!".

Even in the most strict countries regarding gun control laws, you can get a hunting shotgun I think.
If the people who would rob you are nofuns it's enough.

AAA state bonds have negative interest rates now…
Boomers had them at 5/6% for years…
Fucking boomers.

A what?

This is the big one. Jews want all cash gone so that no one can escape their Jew machine. No savings. "Negative interest rates". No way out. No real way to unplug. Gonna run away and have a farm somewhere? Oh, yeah how you gonna pay your goy tax, aka "property tax" without a Jew bank account when there's no such thing as cash??

The yids are trying to get the stupid lemmings to think of cash as "criminal activity" or "something only old people do". They already constantly pimp this "savers are hurting the economy!" idea. Just look at the OP of this thread — "millenials aren't having credit cards, oy vey!".

The kikes are relentless in their blood-sucking schemes.

I would only use a credit card for normal every day purchases like groceries clothing and use a credit card for big company stores.

Why? When the swamp and the rest of the corrupt politicians want to arrest you for looking at right wing websites and posting rare Pepes, they'll want to do anything to make your life miserable, including looking at your past purchases. So using a credit card for everyday stuff will help you blend in without raising suspicion.

I would only use cash only for small local mom and pop stores and other independent businesses and maybe restaurants, because the credit card companies pretty much tax about 50% of their income. Same thing goes for using a debit card.

Stop blaming "boomers". It's a fucking stupid meme pimped by kikes. The kikes fucked the entire future (us) and are now trying to get us to think it was "boomers" that did it. In 40 years, if this shitshow is somehow amazingly still standing, the kids then will be blaming US for their problems. It's classic Yid misdirection. They tricked the boomers as much as they tricked 'us'.


Self-Directed account. As in "self directed 401k or self directed IRA".

If you give even a single shekel to a Jew you could avoid giving you are part of the problem.

I hope you're ready to be a wage slave to help keep the Ponzi scheme known as Social Security afloat for a few decades more. The difference is that we are actively resisting while Boomers are entirely engrossed in Bread and Circuses

Jews are going to keep over inflating your cash until it has no value. Keep your money in a crypto currency or asset.

You fucked up.

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What baffles me is that this sort of thinking isn't even particularly logical or sustainable. The goal here is to leech as much money as possible from the goyim, right? Parasites don't intend to kill their hosts…

Reminds me of an Economy studies joke: "Planting doesn't make any money, farmers should just focus on harvesting."

You could use a debit card, or just keep track of how much you're spending each month.

Dude, my father bought land forty something years ago because he had an accountant friend which looked out for him.
Put a MAERSK shipping container there, built a porch on the side, hooked up electricity, built a masonry kitchen on the porch, nobody gave us shit.
Then built a single story house next to the container on top of the ruins of a mill, once again, no shit.
Spain.
As long as it is not attached to the ground you can put whatever you want, within reason.
As long as there is a foundation you can "rebuild" on it.
If you build it and enough years pass without the law getting involved, it is legal.
If you and any possible neighbors keep quiet, the law ain't gonna get involved.
If neighbors talk shit kill them and their dog.

Fucking kikes.

Social security is a ponzi scheme = more kikery. It's not white knighting to just tell it like it is. You can go and blame your parents and grandparents for falling for kikery, as I do where it's warranted — but SSI was invented over 2 decades before the first boomers were even born. Kikes have been around for thousands of years, tricking and deceiving, and you want to lay the blame on one generation?

I resist, as do you. I propagate information to wake people up. Maybe you do the same. "We" do not believe the lie. Yet, the shit that's going on now the stupid kids of the future will be blaming 'us' for all the same. Because the future kikes will tell them it was all 'our' fault as well. Even though millions of people are screaming 'no'.

Thank you for mentioning that. I'll keep that in mind if I ever need to open a credit card to rent a car. My local bank probably offers those.


If you must use a credit card, paying it off immediately is good. Why not just use a debit card, though?

(Heiled)
Yes, but you're spending money you haven't paid to the bank yet.


Maybe you fucked up. At least you aren't wasting all of her good childbearing years while you establish yourself, though.


It depends on where you are working and living and on the benefits you get. If you are getting insurance through your employer (even if you pay some of it) and don't live somewhere crazy expensive, it's not too bad for a starting salary.

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It starts way sneaker, first its those adds where the higher price is crossed out, then the thing where you pay relativly cheap goods like electronics in installments "with 0% interest goy" goes on to credit cards, loans and college loans for useless degrees.

Never could understand the appeal of paying every month for something that may be alraeady broken by the time you are finished.
If you cant save up for it in cash you cant afford it in the first place, (Houses and cars are excluded)

When I tellsomone that I never paid with a card in my life so far and dont even know how that works I get fucking looks as if I just raped their cat.


Hmm you might have a point there, now I dont know where to go from here.

I have a prepaid visa I reload for amazon purchases. It's faster than using debit.

shitskin-tier
kill them and take their dog


My mom leased her used car and pays 0% interest because she has good credit. With inflation, it's actually cheaper. That said, I bought mine outright, and my mom is a clueless boomer.

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Too bad everyone gauges crypto value on real dollars for conversion. You get fucked either way because the prices of goods are set based on the kike's scheme. Buying coins is a fucking scam meant to get the initial offering fucks at the top rich while suckering people into the scam with a bunch of shit coins they can't pawn off for fuck all. All you're doing is inviting another jew to supper with you.

this isn't just a saying, it's very common in Italian, Greek, those sort of countries, where banks were distrusted maybe a bit more than other high-trust societies, where they would cut open the mattress and stuff the bills in, house burns down, lose everything
also 'poisoning the well' was another -ism that also literally happened, most of these regular figure of speeches we use day to day are literally based off of real life examples that have lost meaning over time with changes in society and the world

That's what we all should be doing, user

The point is to make them think you are a crazy asshole that will murder them if they cross you
No thanks, I'll pass.

Like blowing smoke up one's ass.

Credit scores are a collection of everything you have ever done. Think Equifax, they are a credit score company, remember that shitshow
Good. That shitty industry must crash, with no survivors
Oh no, poor millenials, wont have a 10% off for pizza.
These kinds of rewards promote more reckless spending.
Yeah, but you are far more likely to be frauded on a credit card.
Because debits have limited ammount of cash within them.
All this is the jews bitching that goys dont use credit cards as much.
Considering their terrible security in the states, i wouldn't use them either.

Is that what we call Credit Card companies increasing their interest rates on outstanding debt by 3% a year for 4 years after a financial crash?
Hell half their argument about WHY credit cards are good is because it allows you to go into debt. This article's literally the most Jewish thing Holla Forums's shown me.

Actually purchasing with credit vs. debit is preferred because you can charge back fraudulent charges. Debit cards, once they take it out, you're fucked. Always run your debit as a credit if you have the option to make the credit protections apply to your purchases with your debit card if it has one of the major logos.

yep. taxes don't apply to refugees or Italians and Greeks, lel

Oy vey goyim, don't talk to your local banker in person and show him a record of your income thus immediately proving you can pay of the loan in 5 fucking minutes. Don't GET TO KNOW your banker and make a discriminatory decision on whether to take a lone from him based on heresay and his attitude(or if he is a kike) make sure to build that credit score instead.

No you stupid kike. How about providing ample jobs that isn't shitty part time work that the boomers once had access to? How about restoring the traditional values to young men and women so that they have motivation to raise and start a family? Instead you promote destruction of the family unit, and younger generations have less motivation to get out there and live life as they want to. I think it's time for this system to crash since we will be forced to rebuild it afterwards.
-t. Millenial

Know what's sick? I have a boomer mother that wants to get off disability and go back to work. She also has a few pensions already from retiring state, federal, and commercial.
There are many many boomers fleecing the system in this manner and it helped drive inflation. Unless we have forced retirement and get rid of pension hopping, the system will never be sustainable.
But it's her generation that has this built in need to fuck everyone else around them. She only wants to work because she is bored. She doesn't give two shits about the money she's taking off someone else's table etc.
The system will crash on it's own but it's a slow fall because every kike on the planet is flapping their arms trying to slow it. We can speed it up or we can change it into a system that works. Regardless, the change will happen and we should prepare for it either way.

This country needs forced retirement.

not really. they are what they are. at least you can default on them if you wish.

the real scam here is that a lot of (US) kids are taking huge loans to go to college for jobs that basically don't exist.
this is the same reason they're not buying new cars or homes also; not having credit cars is the least of the problem.
they simply aren't earning nearly as much as they expected, and often, they aren't even working in the field of their degrees.

the student loans is the main scam.
colleges have used them as an excuse to charge ever-rising tuition.
it would be better for students to get rid of government student loans and grants entirely.
there's a LOT of people, getting paid WAY too much money for doing nothing essential in the US college system.

The debt is also non-dischargable and it isn't the taxpayer making the interest and fees etc. it is the god damned kikes "servicing" the loans. The non-dischargable part was to protect the TAXPAYER's money on federal loans. If the money stolen was going to the taxpayer it wouldn't be an issue but it is going into private (((hands))).

I had a highschool teacher who used to say that a little debt was good. As full of shit as he was, he did make one good point in regards to building credit. A ten dollar a month magazine subscription can slowly build your credit up.
Take your credit card, purchase magazine subscription, put credit card in a lockbox, put the lockbox in your closet.

Eat shit Mr.Goldberg

Hate to break it to you but Italy's debt is on average 30% more compared to the rest of Europe. Greece is like 100% so I can't exactly defend that. Europe is getting raped by the kikes just as hard as the US is, wonderful consequence of combining a monolithic (((government))) with (((international banks))). With Jews you will always lose

This is what happens when young people don't have other prospects. It's basic human behaviour really. When you have shit prospects, other alternatives become more attractive. So you get millions of idiots cramming into colleges studying useless shit because it's their only real option.

When colleges get huge amounts of people trying to get in, they raise their prices because they know some idiot will still pay. You can't really blame them for it. My blame falls on the kikes and Wall Street bankers (largely synonymous) who caused the GFC.

Well, here's a radical idea: DON'T buy a new fucking car in the first place!?
I can never understand the mindset of an individual who would spend such a retarded amount of money on something that is lesser powered, lesser equipped and more liable to have a fault purely based on the virtue that it's "new" over something 10, 15 or even 20+ years old with a higher spec. Whatever, you can have your "new car smell" and "virgin seats", I'll be sure to laugh at your grossly underpowered rotundomobile with cardboard mats and no stereo while I blow by in my turbocharged '93 3 series, built from real Bavarian steel forged from the very swords, knives and bayonets that stuck kikes from decades before.
Fuck off nu-males, the automobile is an extension of the masculine spirit, much like a gun. If you have the option of taking the bus, riding a bicycle or just plain walking where you live in the first place, then you're too close to a large city to begin with.
Also a couple chads in their raised truck will always be more manly than a faggot in a Prius, no matter how hard you push that "compensation" meme.
t. /o/

lurk more and learn to format OP, that is just a mess of reddit spacing and I have no idea what info is important.

It's almost like we've seen the horrible effect debt had on our parents generation and decided not to go down that same path of misery and despair for shit we don't need.

Build a good credit score so we can leak it like Equifax did and hackers can fuck up your credit for life. Being off-grid is probably the smartest thing anyone can do these days.

Wtf why is a credit card company advertising on Pol

Same here the banking bailout of 2008 convinced me that the US Government does not exist. Instead Multi Cultural US Government exist and it is ran by Jews who bribe each and every member of congress. Jews FAILED at banking in 2008 and the white tax payer i.e the American Bailed them out to the tune of trillions of dollars radically increasing the money supply. We haven't seen this new money enter the m0 m1 m2 markets yet but when they do we will have serious inflation problems. I think that is when the rich kikes will start leaving because they know the dollar is going to crash and they can determine when. The next "depression" bailout or whatever the fuck the kike media calls it will be extreme making the 1920s great depression look like a complete joke. The kike media I think is going to blame the Trump for this and proclaim that Globalism is the solution. If they only knew that there is a backup plan for total chaos that will erupt i.e an airborne respiratory pathogen that will ham string these big kiked out jew cities and will cause utter chaos. When that happens go into the Forest because the Jew Goverment will create FEMA camps offering Gibs to all the City Shitkskins slants etc. The Jew Gov will realize the FEMA camps won't last because the freebies will run out. So they will turn the FEMA camps into training grounds to hunt the whites who have gone into the woods. Never go into a FEMA camp, in fact when they start the FEMA camps because of the new world plague burn the FEMA camps to the ground because they will use those people in those camps to train an army to hunt the whites. Stay in the woods form a community and burn the FEMA camps to the ground. Starve them allow them no food and allow no other international help to reach those city centers.

Here's your gimmie, newfag.

Same here, only for the purchases I need.

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I didn't think I'd ever get to say this about millennials, but
FUCKING BASED!

Much of this though I think has to do with the requirement of a job for most credit cards. I know here you cannot get one unless you are employed, and I also know unemployment amongst millennials is sky high.

Usury should be banned and it’s architects wiped from existence.

They still have a rule like that like Murica? Laxer in Europe, from what I know. (tough teens still need their parent's signature and approval to get one)
Those fucking fascists. ;) .

One more reason to kill off normalfags. Why doesn't the hag get a job where she would be actually productive, like gardening vegetables in her own house or farming in her property or maintaining her property instead of taking a young person's needed shekels? That's because freaking boomers, like all normalfags, have perverted their natural urge as Whites to be productive into competing for wagecuckoldry positions for social standing.

No shit, most millenials are unemployed or working at McDonalds with university-degrees. They don't have enough money to walk around and spend shit on a credit-card.

thanks user, I didn't know that was a thing.

And why would I want a credit card?

Don't worry goyim, no surcharge on purchases until the next fiscal quarter

So you can give 20% more money in the form of interest payments for the exact same goods. I never understood credit cards either. If you can't afford something, don't buy it. Because if you're too poor now, chances are you will be too poor when the payments come due. Only it's much worse, because there is a huge amount of interest. I remember first hearing about credit cards when I was just nine or ten years old and thinking it was the stupidest thing ever.

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STOP IT BAD GOYIM BAD

Get out of here you filthy kike.

The only reason is if you don't give a fuck about a credit score and want free gear on the kike's shekels. As long as you stay below a couple grand per source they won't ever sue because the court proceedings cost more than the collection.

Nah, I'm good thanks.

Nice story, and I believe you, but it all depends. In the middle of nowhere in Spain? Yeah, if la municipalidad doesn't give a shit and the neighbours don't rat you out, it might work. Germany? Not so much. They'll shit on your setup the second they get wind of it. Living "innawoods" or as a permanent nomad is explicitly and expressedly forbidden (offically because of hygiene and public safety and whatnot) and can net you penalties of 12K EUR and more.


That country has MUCH larger problems than taxes right now. They are in the middle of an undeclared bush war, and their central government has been taken over by EU goons and banksters. But yeah, technically you're right.


Crazy and suicidal. In Central Europe they will just call the police; in Southern Europe, their extended family will kill you in your sleep.


Had to kek, well done.


Nice rant, but it's only realistically doable in the US. We Yuropoors have to develop other stratagems, innawoods simply isn't an option on a densely populated and cultivated continent like ours.


Meh, from up here in the northt he difference is a gradual, not a qualitative one. But otherwise I'm cool with you guys, I like the mediterranean.

Easy workaround:

1 - Open a savings account at a bank/credit union
2 - Live frugally and increase savings
3 - Apply for a loan from the institution, pointing to your savings as proof the loan is a good risk
4 - quickly/immediately repay the loan and now enjoy your instant good credit score.

That is absolute bullshit people can still be bankrupted if you have enough debt amassed in your name.

wtf im 32 and for the past 15 years I've been referred to as a "millennial"

Millennial are persons born between 1980 and 2000.
Journalists are retarded.
t. 35 yo no credit card

It seems that a "millenial" is basically any adult but young- ish person who witnessed the turn of the millenium…


Disagree, everything born after the Fall of the Wall is too young to get the priviledge of getting named (yet). Those youngsters will get their own label once they pass into young adulthood.

I've never used a credit card, taken out a loan or had a utility in my name, yet my credit score is in the "Excellent" range

Duh. That's why one must be moderate about it. I got about a couple grand worth of gear over about a years time and the most they ever managed was some collections calls but I use burner phones so a lot of good that did them. I still work, rent, and do whatever I please. Fuck these predatory credit agencies, screw with their bottom line whenever possible.

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HEIL HITLER

28 counts as "young adult" in my book, at least nowadays…

good for them/us

now learn to format

not just paste

it's too much like reddit

I always say that Millenials start at 1995. Someone born in 1985 grew up completely different than someone in 1995.

Neither a borrower nor a lender be

so what are the 30 yos called?


/thread

Generation Y

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This is what my parents told me, that renting is merely throwing money away. I guess putting money for a place that you could sell for a profit later is a better option perhaps? Is that the meaning?

Well when you have refunded you mortgage you keep the home.
With rental you have to pay the rent for life.

Well in canada you can get one if you don't have a job but it's only got like a 500 dollar credit limit and you gotta freeze 500 in a special account you can't access in case you're not paying.

If you pay fa house entirely in cash do you get arrested, or do Jews come to whack you?

Gen Y are millennials. Gen Z start at 1995-2000

The average is right around $15/hr. Not great, it’s hard to live on that. My friends that make that can’t afford to get a house, get married, or have kids.

That’s why natsoc economics are so important, we can drive down house prices back to the 60s/70s just by getting rid of (((mortgages))) and building lots of low-cost housing. We could easily build a million homes for $72k each, and give out an interest-free mortgage for $400/mo, allowing the average American to support a family again. For some reason, (((some people))) keep getting in the way of this obvious and cheap means of improving birth rates.

Jews are Jews if you slap them in the face with a big enough down payment they won't care. Also you can get a house if you have 2 years worth of bills that gave been payed on time. A fucking rabbi of all people told me this when he came in for the kosher meat back when I used to cut meat

Actually yes the Jews do come for you. They'll audit your taxes.

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That would then mean Millenials are only born between 1995 and 1999

that guy is right :

For example in France if you pay more than 10 000€ in banknotes for real estate (rental or buying) or 1000 € in other cases, you can get a 1 500 € fine. And the fiscal authorities will audit your taxes on the 5 previous years : three cases :
Or you are normal and you will have to pay huge additional taxes, because they will find something you haven't declared.
Or your accounting is professionally done and you will maybe get out cleared.
Or you have substantially under declared revenues or assets and that means huge fines, huge additional taxes and maybe the loss of your job, or maybe jail time.

GOOD GOY POINTS collect em all !
If you have enough income to sustain a mortage, banks will throw money in your face
Seriously? Anything you can get rewards discounts on isnt worth spending money on in the first place, stop being a consumerist bitch.
Use cash and stand your ground against robbers.

Not true, if your debit card is hacked and money is taken out fraudulently, the bank will refund the money. I know this for a fact because a chain restaurant charged me tens of thousands of dollars for a meal that cost under $10. Called the bank, called the store, had my money back within a day. The store claimed that someone hacked their 3rd party POS payment system. POS sales are pretty much protected wherever they're made.

The only thing that really sucks about it is that neither the bank nor the store has to pay bounce fees for any outstanding purchases you made prior to the fraud. Let's say you wrote a check for your rent that hasn't cleared yet, then somebody hacks your debit card, then the rent check hits the bank while your account is empty due to the fraud. Your rent bounces, and your account is charged $30 for insufficient funds, and maybe your landlord charges you a $25 returned check fee on top of that. The next day, the bank puts the money back, but you're still out $55 through no fault of your own. If it was a mortgage payment you're really fucked because you can only late pay so many times before they seriously penalize you, and you just wasted one on a fraudulent charge to your debit card.

Another thing that could happen is if you have overdraft protection linked to a savings account, the bank can pull all the money out of that savings to cover the fraudulent overdraft. Of course, the bank will put it back later and refund you the fees, but meanwhile, every dime you had in the bank is tied up by the fraud. Best to have a savings that ISN'T linked to your checking, or even better, have some cash always on hand to cover emergencies. I suggest having at least enough cash to cover a weekend at a minimum.

I didn't have any bounce fees or anything like that when this happened (although a lot of other people caught in the same scam did). The thing that really bothered me was, at the time i had a $3,000 daily transaction limit on my card, and the fraudulent charge was WELL over that amount. I asked my bank, how could the bank process a $10,000+ fraudulent charge and put my account into multiple thousands of overdraft when I have a $3,000 daily limit? I never got an answer to that question.

There's absolutely no security on wire transfers. If you transfer money directly from your account to someone else's account you are just fucked if it turns out to be a scam. This is the favorite tactic of craigslist scammers. Never wire transfer money to anyone who isn't a blood relative.

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They have those secured credit cards available here as well for people with shit credit. It's a security deposit.

Fucking scumbag Jews.
I hate these fucking people

It's better user, to just invest in shit that you will need in any time of need. As in, a white person ruled by his enemies who is seeking to genocide him.

Don't buy stocks, don't buy bonds, that's trusting the jew with your money.

We need to make the Hall of Cost happen for real.

Do yuppies actually do this? I just use mine for small purchases like vidya or something at the grocery store and promptly pay it off after

Bet you don't even know how to use a fuckin plunger

> I actually don't give a shit about the (((interest))).


why are you helping a fucked up system?

good goy

Everyone that was an adult in the 1980s has or had multiple credit cards and used them for everything. School clothes for the kids? Credit. Birthday dinner? Credit. Vacation for the whole family? Credit. Christmas? Damn that's a lot of credit.

Worse yet, many of them would get cash advances on the cards which were charged at a higher interest rate. Back in the day, you could get a cash advance on a major credit card at nearly any ATM.

A lot of boomers and a smaller but still significant number of Gen X'ers still live this way. My wife's aunt gets a very generous pension, but most of it is eaten up making minimum payments on multiple credit cards for things she bought and especially trips she took in the late 90s/early 00s. Did she learn her lesson from this? Fuck no, she recently refinanced her house and used the equity to go on a gambling vacation in Vegas.

One of the few arguments I've ever had with my wife was over not taking care of this old twat when she's too old and too broke to do it herself. Family first is an important tenet of WN and I'm glad that my wife takes it seriously, but this bitch has kids to look after her and if they refuse to do so, there's probably a good reason. Can't stand that woman.

So when's Gen Z?

This is incorrect, and she was obviously your special-ed teacher.

You better have a document-backed explanation for every single cent. Because the most vigilant of all governmental agencies is not CIA or FBI. It's (((IRS))), and they will be at your door with an anal probe and a polygraph the moment you sign the deal.

The marginal tax rate in my jurisdiction is higher than the interest rate I'm paying.

How does a poorfag psuedo-neet build credit? I work general contracting, but sometimes work is slow - so I still live in my mom's basement, until I can afford a nice piece of land. Problem is I want to gtfo of the dungeon and live on my own already. Paying rent is throwing money away, but at this point, getting away from autistic/nagging family takes precedence. I've even considered living in my car on Nat. Forest/Bureau Land Mgmt. land for free. I know there's tons of ex-neets here even ex-homeless anons any of you guys got any tips? Any good books on the subject? Also, any good /bizpol/ books in general?

Do you have any skills?

Better live in a car than be a kike slave. You can check out churches for room and board in exchange for some uncomplicated work, and you can eat for free at Sikh temples.

t. ex-hobo turned middle class

You can take a shower at gyms or swimming pools. There are sometimes free showers near beaches.
Keeping dignity is important.

Also, if you live near any Amish, ask them for help. They also don't mind feeding you for work.

Get a credit card, use it to buy something ( i just use it for gas) every month and pay it off in full. If you can't get a regular visa/mc you can usually get one from a store like Target or a gas station.

Every 6 mos call them and ask them to raise your limit.

In a few years you'll have kickass credit. The total limit of all my cards is a quarter mil.

Putting money into stocks isn't a bad idea since SHTF means all money is worthless anyway. As far as I see it. you should invest in order.

Buy Land>SHTF stuff, Guns, and Lead> Precious Metals>Mutual funds, IRA, 401>More Land

A major thing to consider if you are worried about SHTF is that SHTF might not happen in your life time.


Save up. You could get a home loan with no credit to be honest. The main thing is you need to prove you can pay payment>>10736072
s over a period of time before you can get approved this way. It's how loans used to work before the Kikes made Good Goy point I MEAN CREDIT SCORES. Go for a fixer upper I bought my house for 17,000 and I have an acre of land.

Ironically being a worthless NEET is how i built excellent credit. Id work some dead end min wage job for 2 months, pay off my credit card, get fired or quit and live off my card for another 2 months

Millenials got their fear of debt from watching their parents struggle to pay bills.
similar to how children of depression era parents were frugal and didn't waste anything.>>10733259

I know that feeling, I work minimum wage but I could work 30 hrs to 4hrs a week, been looking for another job although I'm glade they put me back for 20hrs.

There's truth and wisdom to that joke.

General construction, carpentry, getting certified as a general auto mechanic next semester. Hopefully moto mechanic cert. in the same year. Other skills are farming, cooking, design/planning/drawing (no cert. though). Dream of being a professional drawfag/propagandist Trying to read everything on business/self employment I can.

Buy an empty lot, buy a mobile home to drop on the property, build a house.

Not really. It's true they're damaged more in a crash, but the way crumple zones are designed means even if the car is totalled you're far more likely to survive and far less likely even to be injured than in an older vehicle.

An older vehicle may escape a crash with less damage, but the occupant will more likely be injured in the process.

And, obviously, a modern car will have a lot more power than some old 70s shitheap.

How do you avoid capital gains on investment homes? Hate being kiked and don't want to live in them.

Lol no thanks

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1980-1994 is a millennial, because you grew up around the turn of the century. Anything after is Gen Z. How is this fucking hard to understand? If you can remember life before 9/11 you're a millennial, if you can't, you're not.

You make $200 a year. How much do you put in the pockets of international Jewry?

You're funding your own genocide.

Don't play Jew games. Small-time investors are just fodder for the multi-billionaire globalist accounts.

The stock market is just kike gambling.

No anons, what you must do is pit the jew against himself.
Take out loans to buy real estate then flip ASAP for a profit. This robbing the bank of the money they could have otherwise (((invested))), providing you some cash, and then rinse/repeat the process until you have made a big enough profit to start your own bank, and then start jewing others until your bank holds a significant amount of the world's wealth, then crash it all with no survivors. And don't let Soros cash out his fucking stock either, you don't tell them a fucking thing before you crash it all. If just a handful of anons did this jewry would be defeated.

The risk is minimal since the bank holds the house as collateral, worst case scenario is they foreclose on you and you file bankruptcy. Best to form an LLC beforehand and keep your assets as far out of their reach as possible

what did he mean by this?

user I know someone who keeps precious metals in a freezer because it is the last place I think a thief would search for it. Money in the mattress is real.

Good.

These terms have no meaning and trying to figure out what on idiot means thm to be over another is a wast of time, please dont post about it you tremendous faggots

General rule of thumb: Do you remember what the world was like before the 9/11? If you don't, you're probably gen z. Feel good, because z is for zyklon.

Cash is fucking worthless. Especially centralized cash, the value of which is determined by a private institution run by a cabal of Jews. Real assets, real value. Land, weapons, manpower, agriculture.

Usury is becoming less and less appealing as people begin to figure out the game.

I spent years building a perfect credit score so I could be independent. I moved out from my last apartment and the cunts at the electric fucked up their billing and mis charged my by 2 dollars on their end then sent a claim to the credit company over it. Now my credit went from 760 to 'fair'. Now I have to call them up, get a letter sent to me, then fucking mail these kike's at Equifax, even though they've already fucked me in the ass by losing my info by hiring some diversity hire IT manager who jumped the corporate ladder with a fucking music composition degree. Then I have to pay more than 10 bucks a month to the same shabbos kike's to protect my info because they lost it already. I need a new car but now I can't get one because of this fucking mess. Meanwhile these same kike's can leak natural gas into Aliso Canyon for years and since Governor AIDs sister is on the board of sempra energy, they get away with making people ill and ruining lives; but my two fucking dollars man….

I've already bought a cheap car on Craigslist. I'm selling my house and moving off to a homestead. Fuck credit, debt, and taxes.

I did a serious paraphasing and add on to a good greentext about a month ago, relevant

Your handwriting is atrocious

Were you born a keyboard? Learn how to at least write legibly.

Are you a girl?
I can make out names in the paper

At least you can write. Who's Paula's Daughter? Why does she go to Gymnastics?

Mortgages front load their interest so you mainly pay interest for the first several years. You can throw money away on a mortgage if the value of the property does not increase over the time you have owned it. Do not buy a house in a town or neighborhood that is shrinking. Do not buy a house in an area that has a growing shitskin population. Blacks often sit on property that would otherwise be valuable if they did not live there.

I watched wayyy too many classmates and peers make that same mistake. Just use logic and common sense. Go off the grid for a few years and build a solid stack. From there, you can literally pay out of pocket for a tech school and not worry about student loans. Nail a job right out of school cause our trades are dying and ICE is rounding up the rest of the workforce so your spot is pretty much guaranteed (granted you're not a junkie) and a few more years after that, build your own company. Turn that anger into something productive and that won't make you go postal later in life.

That's how my older brother did it. But then all the sudden he just got 9,000 in debt. He's a good goy.

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Yeah, I'm saving for a small block of land that I can put a small transportable on. Also changing careers so I can move out of the Big Smoke and into the countryside where land is cheaper.

I can't believe anyone read this.


If he admitted he was he'd be told to gtfo. Besides, girls have better handwriting than that.

Jesus fuck, even my spastic autist handwriting is better than yours.

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Surgery is just squishy mechanics. Having to acquire decades of useless knowledge is State-enforced bullshit.

>I'm stinking rich and I actually don't give a shit about the (((interest))).
Just use deposit card or cash.


No

The credit card is one of the most jewish inventions of all time.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco_smoke_enema

Tfw driving a 92 Toyota with a single turbo 2JZ

Paying rent is worth it. It's a comparatively enormous expense but the increase in quality of life multiplies your capacity for stress.

Which leads me to a single point that every adult should learn, and take this from what I say here if nothing else: security increases your capacity for stress. If you think, "I'm too stressed" it's because you lack security.

Also keep in mind that security is attractive.

I guess this became popularized and normalized during times of easy growth, easy job and easy raise in income.

This created a generation where you could take credit and still sooner or later would find a way to pay for it unless you weren't completly lazy

But it only lasted for a while, and eventually the boomers took credit the economy couldn't pay and we are still in that cycle

They shouldn't spend money they couldn't repay.

whats the consensus on winning the lottery?

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Bump

This argument is a classic.

Half of that tax going to welfare tourists from the third world.

Enjoy neo-slavery.

But I have a tandem debit/credit card that takes the money straight out my bank account. Why would I need a separate card for that?

This shits fuckin irritating. I only got this thing because my parents at the time basically said if I didn't I'd be screwed in the long run.
This is what I get for listening to tradcons isn't it?

Use a debit card, don't spend (((money))) you don't have, and don't live beyond your current means for plastic instant gratifying bullshit.
Credit is a bullshit talmud trick aka good goy points, and anyone under 30 should see it.

If you have the discipline, it doesnt matter if your CC has a 1k, 5k or 100k limit. You only use it in emergencies and pay it on time to avoid debt. Obviously, if 5k cc is cheaper than 100k, keep your 5k and tell your bank to fuck itself by extorting you.

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nigger are you being serious?

200$ is what you are worth.

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