Prove to me how destroying a culture that promotes individualism, free thought and expression is a good thing...

Prove to me how destroying a culture that promotes individualism, free thought and expression is a good thing. Why should ANY westernized country take in refugees? Why not a similar, more stable country in the ME? Like Turkey? Saudi Arabia? Jordan? Egypt? Iran? Why are so many EU countries even wanting to take in islamic refugees? Looking at it from a moral perspective it doesn't even make sense.

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tbh Yuropean libshits are have gotten too soft on conservatism, but still, give them some time and they will corrupt hurqa durqas too

That pic is a bunch of white converts, not natural born muslums from the middle east. Wouldn't the opposite effect happen and the muslums end up turning them more extreme?

Spooky shit fam

Just buy a gun and quit being a pussy if you're scared of some ISIS dude fucking your shit up

Why should any westernized country ignite civil wars in the Middle east and then complain about refugees?

This supposedly makes sense.

I'm not worried about them personally, here in Burgerland. I'm more questioning the fact of even taking them in in the first place, I would consider it morally wrong. Compared to forming safe zones in those countries for those wanting normal lives.

So what you're saying is that taking the DESCISION to accept refugees into your country from the country you are laying waste to is a natural thing to do? That's flawed logic at its finest.

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Cheap labor for porkies

Iran and Egypt already accepted refugees. And who would want to live in an authoritarian states like Saudi Arabia? Both Saudi and refugees don't want each other.

Most so-called refugees are not actual refugees and no right to asylum.

Stop this meme.

youtube.com/watch?v=LVa4ERqz97o

Assimilation will not happen unless we force religious tards to drop their idealistic bullshit. State atheism is the optimal choice, just compare Albanian Albanians with Albanians outside of Albania.

Liberals doing the exact opposite right now. Daily on the TV I get presented young, female, hipster Muslim students with Hijab who are supposed to represent the Muslim community in my country which is of course not the reality. They want to build mosques and have us embracing muh multiculturalism (which is a codeword for ghettoisation) and muh diversity that divides the society into SJW and alt-right.

what's up with the obvious Holla Forumstards lately?
they don't even try anymore

Back to Tumblr?

Borders are a spook

Nice loaded question. We don't accept this refugees=destroyed culture nonsense.

Man, however, is not a being whose exclusive purpose in life is eating, drinking, and providing a shelter for himself. As soon as his material wants are satisfied, other needs, of an artistic character, will thrust themselves forward the more ardently. Aims of life vary with each and every individual; and the more society is civilized, the more will individuality be developed, and the more will desires be varied.

Even to-day we see men and women denying themselves necessaries to acquire mere trifles, to obtain some particular gratification, or some intellectual or material enjoyment. A Christian or an ascetic may disapprove of these desires for luxury; but it is precisely these trifles that break the monotony of existence and make it agreeable. Would life, with all its inevitable sorrows, be worth living, if besides daily work man could never obtain a single pleasure according to his individual tastes?

If we wish for a Social Revolution, it is no doubt in the first place to give bread to all; to transform this execrable society, in which we can every day see robust workmen dangling their arms for want of an employer who will exploit them; women and children wandering shelterless at night; whole families reduced to dry bread; men, women, and children dying for want of care and even for want of food. It is to put an end to these iniquities that we rebel.

Back to Holla Forums fam.

No. Learn what spooks are faggots.

Can you show me?

Sure thing, bud.

Nice loaded question op. Most of us, save for a few no borders faggots, want to prevent mass migration and also this refugee crisis. Fact is that these refugees are great for the bouegoiesie and that our governments are displacing those people with military action over resources, not solving the conflict.

I don't want masses of foreigners either, and multiculturalism is just a codeword for ghettos and social in cohesion.

Multiculturalism is codeword for not using rule of law to enforce a monolithic culture over an arbitrary area.
The amount of refugees coming in to Europe is absolutely laughably small and irrelevant, that goes triple for North America.

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Keeping out masses of immigrants who will push them out of jobs and possibly cause them problems because of vastly different cultural norms is in most people's interests.

Spooks is not anything metaphysical you memelord

I, for one, welcome our new Islamic overlords.

what is empty space? show me. What is a black hole? Show me.

ah I see. You should have said emidiately that you are delusional, would have sved us time.

How about when the working class are forced to defend or expand those borders in porkies wars? Are they spooky then?

Yes. It is small. It is not much. What, a couple dozen million? Big fucking deal. Europe can handle this easily, it's only a problem because nobody wants to.
Know what the population of europe is? 743.1 million. Know how many refugees england is willing to take? 20,000. Know how many europe in total is willing to take? Like 4 million. Big damn deal dude. Such a god damned flood.


Well that's not fair, the only reason we can't see black holes is because of the event horizon. We can see a fence, a fence is real, a border is not.

Yes? Yes. Exactly yes.

Yes, but tat is not what is happening now. Something isn't in itself a spook or not. You can uphold a nation out of slf interest of your power vs foreign hostile powers while realising that dying for land you won't get to use is a bad idea.

Oh, to add onto that. Europe has underpopulation problems.

And to be quite fucking honest. Don't start wars in those countries if you don't want to displace millions of people.

Fucking spooked ass crackers.

Oink oink.
We are the most densely populated continent in the world but somehow we have underpopulation. Oh I'm sorry porky that we don't want to have 5 children so we can continue to not enjoy life with our shit paying 9 to 5 jobs and unpaid overwork and our children after us.

Jesus Christ that argument is literally retarded. If you have underpopulation you must find the reason why people don't want kids and fix it, not patch it up by importing poor foreign people and slowly replacing the population.

Litterally the only people who care about muh population are right wingers who have to pay more taxes and higher wages, even though we still have massive unemployment in Europe

They're like .001% of the population. You're the delusional one.

I didn't start those wars you stupid cunt. America and the other porky nations did and we have to suffer for it. We don't even have troops there.

telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/11414064/How-Europe-is-slowly-dying-despite-an-increasing-world-population.html
theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/23/baby-crisis-europe-brink-depopulation-disaster

You aren't fucking suffering from that you jackass.

Please, please tell me of your plight. Are you shot at? Do you starve? Why should I feel bad for you, and sacrifice millions, so you can feel comfortable knowing your country doesn't have too many dirty syrians?

Thanks for the porky articles dumb ads. What's this supposed to prove huh? "Oh no after centuries of massive growth we don't want to have more children in this crowded ratrace"

I don't give a fuck if our population shrinks, we all get a little bit more space. Nice cancer ideology, growth for the sake of growth.

Right, your extra space, is worth the deaths of millions huh?

So let me get this straight you fuck. You think that we should fix our population "problem" by starting wars and fucking over the third world so they want to move here? How dumb are you. You're just switching neoliberalism talking points, going from muh poor refugees we should help them to oh you know what this is actually great cause we somehow have too little people in this snake pit.

We should stop those fucking wars instead of giving porky the spoils of the wars in the firm of resources and cheap labour. But all you do is blame working class native Europeans for it and all them crackers, you fucking amican shit. Your country is the cause if this shit but I don't blame you for the actions of the bouegoiesie.

I'm done talking with these no border retards. They are just as retarded as ancaps.

No, cuntsucker, I think these wars shouldn't be happening, but they are. Now your country, which for some spooky ass reason you feel a connection to, is going to reap what it's sowed, otherwise, millions will die. I blame your porkies for not letting them in. I blame you for being a retarded nationalist.

"no"

Leftypol needs to stop spouting Holla Forums bullshit. Get off your muh nation spook train. Dividing the working class plays right into porkies hands and if you can't recognize that you're an idiot.

b-b-b-but my blood and soil!

Your 'idealistic bullshit' is Ummah nationalism.

Every time.

Abolishing borders before you've achieved communism is retarded, especially if you haven't even implemented socialism yet. Immigration should be allowed but tightly controlled, and focused on people who are most likely to be a net benefit to society. Otherwise you just drive down wages and introduce a foreign scapegoat that porky can point to any time he needs a distraction.

Demonisation of refugees is both funny and sad. It's hard to find anybody more powerless than a refugee. Nationalistic people care so much about their boring lives that they'd rather see people drowned.

A refugee is somebody who is running away from a problem. They are moving from one part of the globe to another because their problems are global problems. Strengthening borders and causing people to suffer and die so that you can continue to choose from so many different brands of toilet paper doesn't accomplish anything, especially when the system and values that you want to protect is what's causing the things that refugees are trying to escape. You need a radical solution that will change the entire world and make it so that people don't have to become refugees in the first place.

When the entire world is free, we won't have to deal with the meaningless consumption and work of everyday life in the west, or the conflicts, poverty and theocracy that people are now seeking refuge from.

But it is precisely this obsession with individualism and free thought and expression that is causing what you're complaining about in the first place!

For example:
- by banning individualism and free thought and expression you can ban Islam too
- by banning the export of individualism and free thought and expression, you can ban the destruction of the refugees' countries too
- etc.

If you have such a big problem with refugees being allowed to exercise their individualism and free thought and expression, ban those.

Your critique is OK, but then you propose a completely idealistic solution without any content. It seems you want to keep things the way they are as well. I know that's not true, but that's the effect of such idealism.

Nice idpol you got there.

The problem with refugees is that they are a tool to suppress wages and promote idpol in both its forms.

Refugees doing whatever they want with disregard to the law is a false given and you know it.

What a shit survey. The question is worded to spook. If you asked them how they felt about suicide bombing other muslims, then you might could draw conclusions. As is they are supporting exactly the same type of behavior as this board often advocates.

I don't want to live in such a dytopian world where conflicts are exterminated. That would require an incredible control machine. Just like removing all possibility of terrorism and other dangerous can only be achieved through a security system that is even more terroristic. Not to mention that removal of all conflicts would be the end of history, thought, and life itself. For many people in the West this is already a reality. There's a reason why people feel like they've become zombies.

hi Holla Forums

And you must be posting this from Aleppo, right?

Ye…
Like now that GB doesn't want Polish.
You see, if it's not niggers you don't like… It's gonna be Greeks, or Slavs, or whatever you don't like!

ANYTHING BUT BLAMING CAPITALISM!


Well, back in the 90s I was in a very famous TV show Albanians were economic immigrands to Greece. Crime and so on.
10 years later, they were either gone or became part of the community.
Then the pakis came, and Albanians had more of a problem with them than Greeks, cause .. you know… THEY TOOK THER JERBS!

So, could we see the socioeconomics and stop this BS?

I've heard somewhere that 1/4 of young people (or young males?) in France "feels some sympathy" for ISIS, or something like that. Those are not just Muslims, it's people who hate the system they live in.

Oh like everyone on this board.

You know… Like people voting for Trump cause he's anti-establishment!