Tennets of a 21st century National Socialist platform

This is a thread for working on a consice and cohesive platform for modern NS.

1. Societal Health

2. Personal Health

3. Environmentalism

4. Economy

It is difficult to codify these components into individual points because they are so interconnected.

An user suggested that the internet also be considered.

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national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.hu/2012/09/the-national-socialist-economic-program.html
jrbooksonline.com/HTML-docs/The_Rothschilds_Leese.htm
youtube.com/watch?v=JjcCKwgTHsM
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And all loans should be approved by AI. All loans made to foreign entities have to be transparent. Any loans in the millions need to be approved by a referendum of people who work in that field (medicine, engineering). No jews or niggers. Designated area of destruction for degeneracy. Six months military service.

A milice army like Switzerland have. All male citizens must serve. Regular training until the age of 45.

That will really shit them up.

Military service is a must for those who wish to take part in government, though they may be assisted by philosophers, whom should be given proper compensation(housing and food) for their assistance.

The Swiss system is basic training only. And then you can keep your gun. Every year you must train a bit.

Then, they have a very small professional army.

As a member of the militia you can buy your own stuff, heavy equipment included, I believe.

Expand national service. Military training is good for men, but you could expand it to include community work. Planting trees, picking up trash, assisting with aged care, making food for meals on wheels, that sort of shit. It gives women and men unsuitable for combat a role.

The education system needs to be overhauled. Particular care should be given to the selection and training of teachers.

Education should also cover a broader scope. It was a mistake to get rid of shop and home ec classes.

In Switzerland those who oppose the military service (for religious reason for exemple, thou shall not kill and all that stuff) have to do a proctection civile service instead. Like digging trenches, helping firefighters, nursing, maintenance of the huge mountains forts…
There are endless possibility.
The main idea is that you train for 4/6 month depending of your speciality.
Then 3 weeks every to years.
Giving some of your time to the community is important, you get to know new people, and it's like that until you are around 40 yo
You can keep your gun at home and in the event of a threat or an invasion you have to answer the call.
The bulk of the Swiss army is made of those citizen milice guys.
Very few people are professional soldiers.
I think it's a beautiful system in term of community building.

Yes. People unable to clean their home or to cook a basic meal are a disgrace.

Heimdallr, the WHITE God, fathered to the real humanity by bedding three women and creating the 3 classes of aryan society, Jarls, Karls and Thrall.
Non white humans are logs of wood animated by Odin for shit and giggles.
Jews are musspelheimers. Demons full of resent. (Actually Jews PRETEND that their passions are greed and lust. Because those to are low pursuits but still higher spiritually than there real motive which is ressent. They hate you like the comically ugly hates the beautiful )

Sounds pretty good. Consider making Education a point. As for religion, it either needs to be replaced by spirituality (picture in the op).

Family

- There needs to be an emphasis on teaching kids to not become dependent on technology.
- To help promote more natural behaviour within and among the sexes, schooling should include military (combat+leadership) skills for boys, and numerous feminine activities for girls.

In reality, all educational institutions need to be completely reformed, from the early schooling up to university.

I'm inclined to agree to a certain level. On a national level, religion has not been that successful in bringing Whites together in a country. The emphasis need to be not bringing peope together under their religion, but bringing them together under their race.

Of course, I am not against religion/spirituality as they definitely have a place in all White societies and should be encouraged.

Maybe you all can help me. I attempt to practice fascism in my personal life, and one of the major tennents seems to be respect for tradition and heirarchical authority.

My issue with this is that the majority of those above me believe in the Christian tradition, they want me to profess a belief in the literal bible. That Jesus rose from the grave after three days, that the city of enoch really did lift into the clouds. They espouse general NeoCon Fox News political positions. They despise any type of reason or science. They deny evolution.

How can I respect authority when the authority is so NeoAmerican (love immigration, no european identity) and anti-reality (literal bible, anti-evolution). General buffoonery abounds.

Do I just reamain silent, even when the hierarchy above me is delusional?

This is the thing many people do not understand. The ultimate reason to stick to your kin and work to its benefit is a natural one. Religion is heresy towards nature.

Religion was once inseparable from the nation, with the ruling caste being considered divine incarnations and the shaman caste providing a check on the rulers and a backbone for society. This sort of arrangement is most notable in the Egyptian model wherein the Pharaoh was an Earth-bound counterpart to Horus in a twinned ritual mirroring the quest to restore Osiris as the basis for the prosperity of the two kingdoms, all of this being implemented by the pre-dynastic Followers of Horus and other such astronomer-priests. The Aryan model is quite similar, with a king whose ritual significance was tied to the fate of the kingdom through things such as the Ashvamedha.

A true spirituality, such as existed in pre-Christian times, suffuses the entire life of the individual as well as every aspect of the community.

My opinion on this would be that there is no heirarchy in this case. You cannot be subordinate to a bunch of degenerates and anti-Whites who despise race, nature, and fascism.

Ban on hardcore porn. Take the Google image recognition tech and train it to recognize porn. Then block and ban that stuff to the corners of the interwebs. Turn a blind eye to some Playboy tier stuff on the fringes of the Darkweb, but otherwise treat porn the same way kiddie porn is treated by mainstream society.

Thanks brother

Transhumanism should be part of the platform.

I'm against taking such action against porn in particular because shaming it will be more powerful and lasting. Shame on all who consume it. Suffering/death to those who produce it.

On the matters of God (s)
There is no true human hierarchy.
How can you be faithful to a human chief if what he ask make you feel that you are betraying your God(s)

In my experience Christians, Pagans, Atheists can be goods friends if they put their race before their spirituality.
It's possible because
Pagans see themselves as ethnico-religious. German pagans, Slavs Pagans, Celt Pagans.
Christianity have a "grow and prosper" thing.
If an atheist is racist he has no reason to fight the other two if they are racists as well.
Banter and Kikeonastic / pagansinmudhutts threads do no reflect what are real life interactions amongst theses group in the irl right.

Christians worship a foreigner and a foreign deity; they can never be ethnonationalists. What's more, their worship of a Semitic idol corrupts their souls so that they come to resemble that vile race.

What the fuck is this? You've got to be kidding me. You're making this because you want to achieve political power right? because this isn't just a LARP right? Well you aren't going to get any power by openly running as NS in the first place, or any third party for that matter. Stuff like this would be good for the ethnostate, but we don't have an ethnostate to implement a single one of these policies in.

You need to have policies that will give us what we want without actually saying "Hitler did nothing wrong." Stuff like putting numerous planned parenthoods in poor places filled with minorities, nationalized healthcare, minimum wage increase (Min wage was originally a Eugenics program, and still is in some ways), E-Verify, Immigration reform (RAISE Act). Frame it as putting the interests of the American people first, not the interests of parties or politicians. General populist stuff.

Very interesting stuff. Though, the issue is that such a system has not existed for thousands of years, and so bringing it into the modern age would be extremely difficult (though not impossible).

It's something which would be paradoxically easy and difficult. All that would need to be done is to set up a model community based on those principles and let the results speak for themselves. That's where a lot of the complicating factors emerge, not the least of which is that Semites and the traitors who serve them will do everything in their power to destroy such a community.

Hey, I don't think Christianity is good either, but those "christcucks" you keep bashing are the only religious group in the US that's majority white and has above replacement level birthrates. Instead of throwing them under the bus, you should be using their doctrine to make them join our side

Thank you this was a vital point that I missed and a big seller

Christianity really needs to dump the Old Testament, and they need to print a better version of the New Testament that is more in line with Christian Identity beliefsor something. I don't see how Christianity will survive otherwise.

How the hell do you secure a free market from creating necessity for inferior genes (which, by definition, becomes non-free)?

You have become outside the hierarchy. Just as you would not look up to the government of a foreign power, you cannot look up to your own government because they act as a foreign power on behalf of and in the interests of your enemies.

You must see yourself as a barbarian outside the state until a legitimate nation can be created.

Their doctrine is treason and the only way they can join our side is by abandoning their false, foreign traditions.


Either Europeans will survive by removing Christian influence from our cultures or Christianity will survive among the ruins of this world. Christian Identity/Positive Christianity are no longer possible in this era of increased information flow, because they are falsehoods about a greater falsehood.

Good points. As always, the jew becomes the first and foremost problem but if they were out of the picture, I can see how setting up such a community would be an effective way to bring that system into the 21st century. Either the jews need to be dealt with first, or the community needs to have effective counter-measures to jewish tricks.

In eastern Europe the orthodox churches are divided by liturgy and they are de facto ethnic. From my experience lots of Christians in Russia and Romania are openly antisemitic. Most of them also despise Religion of Cuck™.
I also know some pretty based and racist trad catholics from France.

The Pope is a cuck but Christianity is a complex subject. There are lots if Christians on our side.

Being 'racist' by just outright hating people of different races (solely on the racial basis) is despicable. Being aware of cultural, mental and above all biological differences and the dangers of multi-culti is called being sane and rational but also falls in the 'racist' category to those who are uneducated on the topic. Don't be a brain-dead asshole. Provide arguments and reason for your discontent towards others.

It's not even jewish tricks that would have to be countered, but rather outright murder and destruction similar to Waco.


You don't seem to understand; it's incredibly simple. If you worship a Semite and/or a Semitic deity, you become a slave to Semites. This isn't a philosophical point, it is a matter of the spirit. Christcucks can never be on our side because they are slaves to the enemy. Even if they believe themselves to be antisemitic ethnonationalists, their souls are tainted and their efforts will ultimately be bent toward the benefit of Semites.

White genes are already the highest in demand.
But in my opinion they should not be sold to lesser creatures.
They are ours.

I am more inclined to agree than disagree. I was willing to give White Christians a chance at saving their religion, but their religion is probably too deeply compromised and would not allow a society to put racial brotherhood above religion.

I don't want to sound childish, but I get so angry at them. How can they spread lies so freely, how can they be so proud of their ignorance. I end up arguing with them about basic facts and it doesn't help.

My own sister, I showed her information on the falsities of our born religion and she woke up, she left it. Then she went right back into a different Christian cult, this time more fanatical.

My mother woke up to the government lies, she broke the programming, but now she's thrown herself whole hog into flat earth and sovereign citizen craziness.

People want to be deluded.
A new world won't form until we can be reasonable.

Being racist is both natural and logical.
If you don't know why you should lurk more.
And it's not about hate. Niggers can be niggers all they want. In Africa. I don't see why we should work for their laziness, stupidity and insane birthrates.

I completely agree, but you have to understand that many of the people here are former Christians, and even former communists. Hitler and the NSDAP would take elements from marxist parties and use it to their advantage, such as appealing to workers rights, using red banners, and even retaking back the original meaning of Socialism. We must do the same with white christians who have been indoctrinated in their beliefs, using things like Galatians 3:28 to show that Jews are not gods chosen, and Titus 1:10-11 to show that even the disciples of Jesus knew Jews were a bad crowd. John 8:37-45 can be used to say "Jesus himself said that the Jews are sons of Satan". Eventually you can break their commitment to their false religion when they understand that they have a stronger connection with their people than they'll ever have with some Semitic religion

Not American, but I just quickly researched this event. Very fucked up.
Such things make it much more difficult to set up a community, makes me think it would be easier to focus on ridding ourselves of the jews first.

There are a lot of trad Christians out there who do not consider Jesus as Jewish and who say that the Jews git striped of the kingdom of heaven because they did not deserve it.

I don't have opinions on that matter. I'm not a theologian. But these guys exists. And they are on our side.

It is because there is no meaning in the world anymore so people try to find their own meaning. It is something Nietzsche advocated for and something which is based on the lie that there is no meaning.

Every living creature has a definite purpose: to compete for survival, to attempt to reproduce, to fulfil it's role and niche in an ecosystem.

The modern world rejects violence, tells you not to have kids, and destroys natural ecology - thus people are lost. Once you come to understand that all living creatures have a biological mandate to work with and against other organisms to keep life going there is no more existential crisis

For the wrong motives, and are thus ultimately also a liability

White people who want a white ethnostate will never be a liability for me.
They are a part of our people.

I fail to see how that will do anything more than reinforce their indoctrination. If you desire to use such methods, then go right ahead, but this is not a place for endorsing such filth. This place is for the truth and nothing else.


I think one such community will need to be established as the catalyst for removing the Semites. After all, such a removal cannot be accomplished until a culture which does not tolerate Semites emerges. Christian-influenced cultures cannot provide that, so a truly European culture will have to be re-established.


This is a delusion and does not change that they worship a fictional Semitic idol and a Semitic tribal deity. They cannot be on our side because of this, no matter how deluded they are about the true nature of that religion.

I agreed with you before on religion, but I do not agree with you here. Hatred is a normal emotion to feel, there is nothing inherently wrong with it. Hatred of non-Whites simply means that you strongly dislike them because they are an alien race, it doesn't mean you want to go around slashing the throats of all non-Whites. I do not see how hatred can be despicable.

Yes, you are right. I'm sure you Americans can take advantage of the "White flight" phenomenon in creating a new White community that espouses our ideals.

There many of them yes, though they don't care to admit to it because of wrongthink. Actually going to a church and asking people will reveal that. They know the jew only spouts lies, that's why they question the jews saying that Jesus was a jew himself. They also know that the jews absolutely hate Jesus for rebelling against the jews and the them crying like babies when fucking up shit constantly for themselves. Most of them too understand that the kikes never have been enslaved. They also understand kikes have nothing original for their own like Religion of Cuck™.

This total anti-Christian shit will get people nowhere, Hitler understood this fully that's why he wanted to merge the good of paganism and Christianity into one. The National Socialists where never against God, and why would they. God Himself absolutely despises the kikes.

Like Rockwell said it the best.

I'm not Christian, and I don't believe that Jesus was Jewish. I believe that the Bible is heavily censored and its message twisted by (((Certain Parties))) - including those parts mentioning Jesus' alleged Jewishness. I have no problem with most of Jesus' story that doesn't involve allegedly comparing Gentiles to Dogs, but parts likes the whipping of Jews as the Synagogue need to be told more often.

Ultimately, I believe we can take the Jesus from Christianity and reevaluate his story to see what's true and what's not. The main problem with Christianity isn't Jesus - It's (((YHWH)))

This could be said too, you don't have to be against Jesus even if you're against Christianity. Personally I don't have much against Jesus.

Christianity has always been of the Semites. Its earliest traces are Essene writings from ~300BC which reference a martyred son of god and contain prototypes of gospel passages including sermons later attributed to Yeshua. Yeshua is a fictional amalgam based on hundreds of years of Semitic revolutionaries trying to reform Yahwehism in order to overturn colonization. This was eventually altered to justify the establishment of a globalist hegemony as revenge for the destruction of the temple, producing the all-proselytizing cult of Christianity which supplants traditions with submission to an eternal Semitic idol. There is no positive message buried in Christianity, it is no different from Marxism at its core. There is no noble Yeshua hidden away by history, on the contrary, Europeans built him up as being far more noble than any of the Semites upon whom he was based could ever have been.

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put survival of our race first, make it clear that everything else is to work towards that goal
just remember old stock burgers tend to be anti-welfare and gov control. I'm not sure we can make no interest work without more drastic changes, but those are actually fairly simple things whites could get behind.

White-only media is absolutely necessary.

For convincing the libertarians and ancaps and whomever, something to think of is that Rome once allowed germanic tribes that were exceptionally brave and good fighters to pay no tribute or taxes, only that they provide certain numbers of soldiers. I'm thinking of some sort of bone to throw the old redneck libertarians along those lines.

jews must be out of education, but beyond that, it seems like focusing on it now would just cause more problems. But no gov unions= fewer welfare women teaching instead of having kids.


transhumanism is dominated by kikes right now, keep things at a level normies can focus on.

That's literally what I said. My point was that one should be able to elaborate on why they are racist beyond just stating skin color differences. Natural racism is born out of intuition and reason.


I find it despicable that there are people who hate without knowing actually why. Hatred in natural and healthy but must be backed up by reason.

I don't think the days of Christian knights mowing down masses of shitskins and winning the day are ever coming back. Modern Christians are closer to peace loving hippies than to the traditionalists.

Checked but I have to disagree. The Christians around my area are the ones that will fight hard in the up coming race war or whatever war. Speaking with them made me sure of it.

I don't think enough has changed since ww2 to actually justify creating any type of new platform.

That's why Whites need to start becoming transhumanists. So we can compete with the Kikes. If we don't, we are basically handing the world to (((them))).

Wait, what? Why would there be a necessity for inferior genes?

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Transhumanism is kike shit, it goes against nature in every aspect and more importantly evolutionary concepts.

And eugenics doesn't?

The (((same reason))) this 'necessity' exists today and is created constantly all over the world by the (((usual culprits))).

Materialist transhumanism goes against nature, but spiritual transhumanism is in line with documented phenomena such as reincarnation and non-local consciousness. Granted, that does not seem to be what that poster is talking about either.

Picking what genes you want, going against hundreds of thousands of years of evolutionary development is much more unnatural than selective breeding.

you were right in everything except on

the Medieval ages had a major boost in science with scientists such as Roger Bacon and Albertus Magnus.
thinking that the Middle Ages was a time when all science was persecuted is reddit tier thinking

what do you anons think about the few trying to spread National Socialist ideologies, such as in the OP, under the title and guise of American Nationalism rather than NatSoc?

If you're appealing to anyone who identifies as an American nationalist you're going after the wrong crowd.

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2 years of service, 1 of military service and 1 of community service.

But that's fucking wrong.

From what I've gathered, at that time those who were into alchemy and science were often regarded as magicians or sorcerers - which the church punished. As for philosophy, anything that was against the bible was wrongthink - which the church punished.

Correct me if I'm wrong but provide sources.

Especially since one of the most shameful suppression of scientific progress, the Galileo affair, happened in the 17th century, so way past the Middle Ages.

(((Prager))) I know but not a bad video.

The way I see it, it'd be a good thing if this was a public movement, but not immediately involved in politics.

We can gauge how 'friendly' politicians are to our ideas, to decide who to support. The real power is getting refined ideas out in a cohesive, normie-digestible form, especially those younger. Shift the popular mindset and the politics will fall into place.

It all sounds like a bunch of bullshit.
Haven't you seen the peasants in Monty Python's The Holy Grail movie?

Artificial selection is still unnatural though. Why is being "unnatural" necessarily a bad thing? If you're going to play the naturalistic card, you might as well go full anprim.

It's not like one of the most important good and wise characters in high medieval literature was a magician or anything.

Fun fact. In the early middle ages witchcraft was officially recognized as superstition by the Council of Paderborn and witchhunting became punishable by death.

Fascism is about the natural order of society, thats the entire point.

I'm your king because I say so.

But how do you define the "natural order"?

Fascism isn't some new cool kid ideology, the natural state of man is fascism and the tenets of fascism are all about appealing to nature and following in accordance to it, not going against it. Undoing millennia of genetic development isn't something any fascist would see as good. Eugenics was the encouragement of positive traits to excel in society, it didn't directly fuck with natural affairs unless you fall for the jewish tricks and believe the memes.

The natural state of man is to live as hunter-gatherers. This is the way we lived for most of our history. Why is fascism superior to say anarcho-primitivism?

There are dataminers in this thread, just heads up.

You aren't necessarily "undoing" millennia of genetic development. Millennia of genetic development are what brought us to this point in the first place, and this is simply the next stage in our development. Undoing millennia of genetic development would either be human extinction, or regression back to an ancestral stage of our evolution, such as reverting back into Homo erectus.

How does eugenics not fuck with "natural affairs"?

I'm not saying to suppress technology just technology that goes against nature at a biological level. Anarcho primitivism is the suppression of all technology, Hunter Gatherer societies also had one chieftan that was the sole leader, while the entire tribe worked together for their collective good. Thats the point here, not technology is bad but that there are natural hierarchies and institutions that shouldn't be messed with. Getting a bunch of technological modifications to yourself goes against this.

Don't ever fucking post here again
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It's about not fucking with nature like the kikes want you to do. That doesn't mean you have to go back to the stone age. Race mixing for example is against the natural order, so is putting the weak/dumb in leading roles or having the weak and dumb breed without any control what so ever. As is not improving yourself.
Understand the basics of nature and you will understand the core of National Socialism and Fascism.

To give an example of technology. Germany under Hitlers control build massive amounts of roads, the autobahns we all know this. Now the main thing that was kept in mind was this; if the construction meant the destruction of natural habitats or special sights and rare livf it wouldn't be accepted and the plans of construction would thus change. This also counted for building etc.
It's about respecting nature, abiding by it too but not removing technologies out of your life, which would be just plain stupid to do as the rest of the world will want to move forward one way or another.

Also, during Hitlers time people where allowed to produce whatever, as long as it didn't ruin nature or ruin (poison the minds and bodies of) the people or animals and of course as long it didn't corrupt. This also count for the Fascism.

youtube.com/watch?v=FsAIuAMjzsc

Anarcho-primitivism sees technology as the problem in and of itself, rather than seeing how we use technology, ie modernity, as the problem.

Drop the fucking Altruism. That bullshit is why we're in this mess.

Because if you give up tech you get killed off by people with tech.

You can live a life in a society which is similarly structured to prehistoric man, and get the exercise and diet of prehistoric man, without abandoning modern tech. That is largely what NS is about.

user, look into the Artaman league. Heinrich Himmler was even a prominent member, and the majority immediately signed up for National Socialism. (the rest were children and women who didn't vote.)

This. Corporatism/New Guilds is an often forgotten part of the National Socialism and Fascism.

if you're going to take a python's movie by heart, you should look into Terry Jone's Medieval Lives.

monks were proto-NEETs

That was a good show.

They did a side by side comparison of the working days required for a medieval peasant to support himself compared to a modern person and it was like 1/3 as many. And most of that was just taxes, because it only takes an hour to plant enough food to feed yourself for a year

It is always very wise to see what worked before and learn from the best who achieved it. I recommend checking some unbiased experts' books.

Here's a short one (15p) aryanism.net/downloads/books/wilhelm-bauer/german-economic-policy.pdf from a lecture in Berlin 1938.
Everything here: national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.hu/p/free-online-books.html
There's a very good brief list and explanation of the main points, how NSDAP in 1932 did it. This page is gold if it's about learning the real deal. national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.hu/2012/09/the-national-socialist-economic-program.html
Also a bit embarrassing but I forgot the great author who had a very long detailed book on understanding natsoc economy. It's either turbo censored off the search results or I lost it.
Learn from the negative side, by understanding Rothschild's exploitation of the current system AKA what to ban constitutionally. jrbooksonline.com/HTML-docs/The_Rothschilds_Leese.htm This book is insane.
The internet is ripe with these stuffs and I love it.

last one I'm posting. this here covers philosophers and alchemists.

last one I'm posting. this here covers philosophers and alchemists.
youtube.com/watch?v=JjcCKwgTHsM

but user, that's no fun.

The people exist for their own sake, not for "ensur[ing] social cohesion and altruism." Rethink your starting positions, OP.


Because it was less a spirituality or religion and more just a general outlook on the world the same way we believe in Heliocentrism. When practical reality and spirituality are one and the same it's difficult if not impossible for even an intelligent person to properly separate them and thus properly experience them. How is one supposed to feel a more powerful connection to a powerful being like a pagan god than to a similarly remote aspect of his reality like a foreign king? Moreover, how on Earth is any such thing — an understanding of the world in its entirety, not merely its spiritual aspect — supposed to coexist with our modern conception of science and the physical world?

The problem with porn is that it creates whores. I do not believe there would be anything wrong with, say, a young married couple filming themselves.

Not to mention that sort of power is dangerous in government hands.


Here we go with the magical thinking.

Philosophers must perform military service as well.
Infact, especially philosophers. If you want to lead the thinking of a people, you must emerge from service and sacrifice to that people.

Just no marines. You guys can fight but holy fuck are you a bunch of apes.

You ask for sources, but have none yourself.
I was in the same boat for a while.
The middle ages were tough times for Europe (could have been the constant Religion of Cuck™ic invasions, I wonder), but most of what we know of the middle ages has been pushed on us by popular media.

Unification of ideological goals is an important part of our collective identity. It aids us in finding our voice, which will be needed as we present ourselves as an alternative culture to atomized white people.


Frankly, people will figure it out pretty quickly. The superior strategy is to create our own iconography while still describing ourselves as NatSoc. This will aid in communicating 2 important points:
1. This incarnation of National Socialism is not the German National Socialism of the Third Reich (which is important, because normalfags will get hung up, thinking that we want to turn America into some parody of the 1930's)
2. Our philosophy and policies come from the economic and political realities of the present time, not for a nostalgia for the past. (Which is important for creating a cultural identity unique to ourselves)

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The same argument can be made for transhumanism. If you reject transhumanism, you will eventually be out-competed by peoples that embrace transhumanism.

The "dark ages" are a myth. The only "anti-science" moments were a few things that were considered counter-dogmatic to Rome, during/around the time of the Renaissance.

You could outcompete them by developing alternative to transhumanism with superior computing or proper gene selection. Transhumanism does not have to produce better performing people at all. It's just its goal, not actual reality. I don't imagine the body will accept any form of augmentations without becoming severely crippled in immunity and function resulting in death of the transhuman. Besides, any sort of electronic augmentation would make them very brittle and as little as a couple neodymium magnets could kill them in an instant. It's just a child's fascination gone too far. Eugenics are the most natural and so far the only proven method of creating "better people". Gene selection could be another in the future.

You think modern industrial society doesn't go against nature at a biological level? Look at the mass extinctions humans have caused. Look at the genetic engineering and artificial selection civilization has created. Industrial society has even caused new species to come into existence, such as the Underground Mosquito.

This has little to do with transhumanism though. You can still protect the natural environment in the sense you are describing while also using CRISPR and similar technologies to improve the genetics of the population.

Internet def needs to be considered but if you have really considered the options here then you need to realize NS or any kind of Nationalism must be specific to the people who embrace it.
So what is this thread for, a USA based NS?
I don’t believe anything nonspecific is helpful.
We can all agree on the general points here as beneficial to a healthy nation (nation=group of people). You’ll need regionalized and localized answers for compatibility.

You can’t be a philosopher without military service.
So I’ve simplified your requirements, all government service requires prior military service, in any capacity.

Agreed

Truth

No. Everything is subjective.

Where's your area? I want to move there.

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Okay, which fragment of the Dead Sea Scrolls, which is what you're referring to, contains these alleged parallels? The international community must have somehow overlooked them for the past several decades, so I'm eager to inspect your findings.

Does anyone have more screen caps from the thread the first pic came from? That was an excellent thread.

In what way?
Like internet technology, transhumance morning is a broad technological development that has much room for Jewish malice but much opportunity.

Genetic engineering is necessarily a huge part of so called transhumanism.
Genetic engineering is necessarily the next step of evolution for any species intelligent enough. European human species is necessarily intelligent enough.

So how is eugenics, selecting breeding, any better or worse thian genetic engineering, selective gene prese4vstiom?

great, you and about 1000 other people.

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The defeatism troll

Why do you kikes against „transhumanism” always attack it by saying it necessarily needs electronic parts? Then when we instead say genetic engineering you attack genetic engineering by saying it necessarily means kikes will control it. Just stop being Jews, it’s so Jewish you can’t evenpretend you are aren’t a kike.

Selectively choosing our genes with the most precise and efficient technologies available is modern eugenics.
There is no need to kill people or have a commie authoritarian government telling you who can breed and who can breeed more.
If you disrupt and subvert kikes had an argument against it that wasnt strictly anti white then you wouldn’t be playing obtuse semantics games all day.

Winner winner chicken dinner

The reason they got rid of Home Ec was to make people dependant on takeout food and Boxed/frozen Microwavable meals, and on buying clothes instead of making them, shop was so if anything broke, you just pulled out the credit card and bought a replacement.
Any removal of basic skills is to make men need to pay for anything they used to do for free.

Then tend it, then protect it, then harvest it, then store it

Thank you for the Rockwell.

My reply is too long for the character limit because it requires a lot of citations, but here. Hopefully you find this useful. ghostbin.com/paste/39oxt


>I believe that the Bible is heavily censored and its message twisted by (((Certain Parties)))
I strongly recommend looking into the history of the transmission of the New Testament texts from the tradition of believing scholars. It's kind of hard to censor something that was never centrally controlled. Don't overthink the dogs comment. Jesus really only ever had good things to say about gentiles as far as I can remember, and she was no exception. It just wasn't time yet. That came at Pentacost.

Why though?

Prediction: I will be attacked by shills and teenagers for this.

National Socialism is a terrible name for these policies, and you need to abandon ALL of this branding. No Nazis, no black sun, no Thule Society, none of it. Take the policies of nationalism and nativism, and package them in a way that is palatable to Americans: "American First" "Protect our jobs" "Veterans Health care before Immigrants" etc. Are you going to get the Fourth Reich in the next ten years? No. Can you get a wall, tax reform, reduced federal regulations, and re-design welfare so it promotes personal responsibility and stop the bleeding? Yes.

Only to end the suffering.

I think one of the worst things we've done is not focus enough on banks and central banking in particular. White identity is important and all but banks were one things the libertarians were right to focus on and Hitler did too. Nobody fucked with banks better than Hitler since Andrew Jackson and it was a key to their success. If the banks aren't gone, it's over. Don't forget that, keep the eye on the prize.

The unions are the main problem. Destroyed the education system, and they take union dues and give them to left-wing and even outright degenerate causes.

I'm honestly cool with you believing this, but attaching it to a political platform is basically ensuring failure.

Get rid of no-fault divorce, men assumed to be the competent caregiver in a divorce proceeding. Public praise and of responsible mothering and submission to the authority of husbands. Art depicts marital sexuality as more enjoyable (as consistently demonstrated by research).

Uh pr
Not a single person in this thread said we discard all forms of communications and autisticslly larp natsoc ina a degenerate democracy controlled land
You use tor because you keep talking like this and instead of realizing you’re being an idiot you pretend you’re being oppressed

White men plan ahead, so we do all these things you mention like reducing immigration while planning the ideal society that w step by step go to for the future.

If we do like you suggest with no future in mind then we won’t get there.
We’re building a lasting plan for the future, not like as many normies are used to, a shitty 2-8year short sighted plan based on reelection cycles.

I think one of the worst things we've done is not focus enough on banks and central banking in particular. White identity is important and all but banks were one things the libertarians were right to focus on and Hitler did too. Nobody fucked with banks better than Hitler since Andrew Jackson and it was a key to their success. If the banks aren't gone, it's over. Don't forget that, keep the eye on the prize.

Paint me surprised.

We need everyone on board with this.
You leave the banks alone and they stay in charge .
Coupled with family inherited bank ownership and you find out that the oppressive foreign power ruling you hasn’t even been dented, in fact they have a new scapegoat for the ills of society, that evil national socialism.

Feel free to make a solid reply to the type of shit these shills attack us with and we make a copypadta from it, everojy knows thehsills just copy pasta kvetch too.

Banking is the single most important issue. Re-take the Fed, and all of the usury stops.

Attacking Tor means you're defending the NSA, advocating defeatism, or know nothing about OPSEC. I've never seen anyone attacking Tor who then engaged in serious, substantive discussion. Not one.

Agreed. Tor and I2P are our best tools for the foreseeable future.

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compulsory service should be elective military or forestry/agriculture/ranger

there needs to be policy on public decency, and there needs to be a policy regarding cluster B women and dark triad men - you don't want them breeding

you also don't want "socialites" to monopolize employment through artificial scarcity, since this behavior comes naturally to them. Make it so that every profession has basic requirements, and as long as applicants meet the, denying an application is illegal; for every new recruit to a firm, everyone else will take a pay cut to accommodate them.

if you're going to have a decent country, I think you need to be able to revoke citizenship of proven malcontents. This raises the issue of asset forfeiture; in my view every item depossessed should be destroyed, and things like coins melted down, culturally significant items should be catalogued before destruction, and all financial instruments liquidated. The state must not prosper from depossessions, or retain valuable items; this is to prevent anyone from coming back later to make claims.

Citizenship revocation is actually probably the most important part of making a good country. Like a successful garden, care must be taken to ensure the valuable and desirable crops are not overwhelmed by weeds and pests, since that is both expedient and natural, while the garden itself is unnatural.

Throughout history, the law has always become the enabler of human predators, since the prohibition of murder is what enables their destructive behavior. By depriving the enemy of its host, you also remove the necessity of violence.

As white high trust societies show, altruism and social cohesion benefit the individual (and their families) far more than any selfish stance. That's the essence of the failure of neoliberalism to fit the western world, as it considers people fundamentally greedy and selfish, and white people are not.

i'm in NZ, any NatSoc incarnation here needs to embrace our biracial (or as we say, bi-cultural) society. Which Winston Peters (NZ first, 7% share in parliament) does well. Unfortunately, SJW here is super strong.
But what form does National Socialism take for us? We can't be chanting 'white white white', since Maori (islander/taiwanese roots) investment in the cause is important. We have to look for a racial synthesis, promoting the best genetic profiles and finding a way to reduce breeding in sub optimal results, imo. Accept a temporary down turn for a long term gain. Note i'm not talking about accepting shitskin or nigger DNA.

NZ first sails past the censors, no one calls them Nazis, even though their policies are very much nationalistic socialist. That said, naming the policies as Nationalistic and Socialist is important. I say it all the time and people accept it without thought. It is part of the de-programming process.

Indeed, the banks and their love of money are the root of all evil. we need to name them as oppressors at all times.

MUH PR

Go back to Chicago, Kike. Austrian greatness belongs to us, So To Speak.

Austrism Spectrum

The Templars, they eventually have found the true gospel of Jesus, or maybe they just recognized that their war was about race, not belief. Anyway, when they returned from Jerusalem, they worshiped the baphomet, a man/woman icon, similar to what Holla Forums propagates today. The baphomet we know, the goatguy was their hate symbol of the catolic church and was used against them to jew it to "they worship the devil". From what I've read, I found it legit since they said the (((old testament))) and (((yahweh))) are not part of christianity and they were into esotheric stuff which would lead too far now but would make sense if you look closer into Jesus life. It sounds weird in these few lines, plus my english isnt perfect, but keep in mind that the Templars were the old Germanic and Francian royalty, before the (((vatican))) purged them, and that the Natsocs had a similar stand on christianity.>>10661955

Oh, let's go over to the gold standard when the kikes own all the gold. Brilliant. You know Mises was on the Rockefeller payroll, right?

In a way, they're right. The polls show white people are all onboard with the 14 words but the 88 is a tougher redpill for them to swallow, it's not their fault, they just don't know. Still, you have to start off like Hitler did, slowly but surely. Leave the 88 part in the last stages. Focus on the 14 words and it is infallible.

Oh fuck, bumping.

I find divorce is more an issue of stupid people rushing into something they don't fully understand

When you return sanctity to sex, then it'll be returned to marriage as well

Or we stop beating around the bush and go back to having fathers arrange marriages.

Not anymore. Today it is a problem of women stealing assets from men. Most divorces are initiated by women and the courts are horribly biased toward women.

My bad, forgot to include images in

I think it also should be a monarchy.
If the leadership is based on blood, the concept gets ingrained into the populace. It is also the most simple way to prevent career politicians and backroom backstabbers since you have no chance if you dont have the right right blood. And the heir gets raised as the next philosopher king with or without his consent.

What is the tiny top hat in front

Compound interest leads to debt slavery, but you will need to allow nominal interest on debt, otherwise nobody will ever be able to borrow or lend money for legitimate reasons (like buying a vehicle to start a business).

Nominal debt is when the debt doesn't grow over time, i.e you borrow $1000 at 5% nominal interest and you pay back $1050, period. And there should not be a legal way to force people to pay debts; in a high trust society reputation should ensure only good, honest people can borrow money, and if they can't repay debt they will lose social status.

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That last image describes me pretty well currently…

I believe this could only work with individuals and appropriate loan types, combined with a government operated loan approval process. When I say appropriate, I mean for individual and family needs: car loans, home loans(live in only, not commercial!), medical loans, etc. I specify government controlled approval process, because if loans have no legal weight behind them it will make any financial lending institution (jew owned or not) skiddish. If there is no legal ramifications what these institutions will likely engage in similar behavior to what we see today: anal retentive credit scores that violate peoples' privacy, and the expectation of individuals to prove their worth with smaller loans through credit cards. I would furthermore add that the government should back the loans(at least partially) if in case the loan falls through after a period of time in order to encourage banks not to attempt aggressive collection measures (even if they hold no legal weight).

Call me a kike all you want but I think debt should exist. Just hear me out.


This assures nobody gets rich of loans but loans for productive reasons are still able to flourish.


This addresses 2.Personal health and 3. Evirnmentalism for example
2.) If land is classified as non-productive it will be subject to a small taxation if however land is being used productively it will be relieved of this taxation as long as the land is being used for productive reasons. Productive shall be classified as
a.) Used for farming
b.) Used for sustenance farming
c.) Used for outdoor recreation accessible to the public
d.) Serves a cultural or historical purpose

The NSDAP offered forgiveness for a portion of debt for every child concieved.

Why not simply allow investment then instead of loans. That way no debt is created and the burden of risk lies on the investor not the borrower.

Otherwise more debt exists than value.

When are you kikes gonna gas yourself?

This is tricky but would ideally be great but I doubt this would work. Lets say a venture capitalist invests in 10 companies at a 20% stake in these start ups.

Lets say a young intelligent man has a great idea but not a lot of business savy. The investor says he will give him all the money for a 51% stake in the company, the company flourishes now you have a man working for another man who simple gave money.

Lets regulate this with legislation, no more than a 49% stake and the investment must include a buy out option. Would people still be willing to invest with such terms?

The debt I suggested would be governmental in nature (that is why I said no private lenders etc.) and would serve more as assistance for "productive" loans, this very small profit from the loans should be used as a tax or a reserve for future loans.

I might be a bit biased because of this my country's investment practices has become absurd. 50% stake for a maximum of 40% of required capital at most formal investment avenues, private investors knows this and demands even more ridiculous requirements.

Investment can quickly become just as kiked as banking.

What did Rockwell the Jew accomplish?

This. keep politics and spirituality apart

Thanks for the explanation

You are trying to beat the kikes at their own game. This will not work, simply because we cannot scheme like they do. Our strength is the truth, will and neccessity. We will triumph by those means, or our victory will be Pyrrhic.

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Oh you kikes are stupid

You fuckers really aint trying anymore. Hilarious.

With transhumanism being used since the beginning you risk turning the very essence of humanity into a product to be exploited. For not it is better to trust nature, after humanity matures a bit then we can start changing ourselves

Its great that youre trying to get these tennets listed out.
But its all for not if since there are zero TRUE NS movements out there.
All pro white movements are fed, OR filled with azzmador looking, beer gut having 90s kkk tier trash.
NS needs a real, non fed filled, mentally stable, healthy looking, normal friendly group. Or else NS will be eternally stuck in the gyre of the Skin head/neo nazi/kkk aesthetic.

and most of that stuff was bad.


How much do you know about progressive features and human anthropology overall then?

That's the lich's phylactery where he keeps his magical powers. Take it and smash it and the Jew will writhe in pain as if struck down by 6,000,000 shoahs.

And faggotry like this is why everyone despises TORpedoes. If you weren't hiding your IP would come straight from Tel Aviv, you rat face kike.

Men unsuitable for combat should be given support or clerical roles in the military.

Women should be busy being mothers.

What if so called dark triad men and cluster b women were most likely to not be ducks to socially acceptable,lies like diversity
You’d be killing a mechanism that activates the nationalist immune system
Or were you just brainstorming without understanding what you’re advocating?
Same as trying to get rid of peo0e that are supposedly impulsively violent, what if they are just a variant of the only group of the population that actually fights back when a people is occupied or attacked?

By sketching out ideas and brainstorming we help more groups start up and expand.

Transhumanism is delusion for people with weak bodies. It's incredibly jewish. Learn to respect nature user.

Agriculture needs to be rethought towards something in the vein of pic related. We could put to productive use marginal lands, create more biological resources than we burn up. Massive loss of fertile topsoil is truly nog-tier.

Your Republic is showing, love that book, a benchmark for authoritarian nationalism

This is very true. I'm a dark triad man. If this were a healthy white society, there would be much less need for me, but for now I serve a useful purpose. I've been activated by the difficult times our civilization finds itself in. I am designed to counter the infection known as Leftism. They are, as Kaczynski saw, "overcivilized"–too empathetic. So I have very little empathy and balance those freaks out nicely.
BTW, at yourmorals [dot] org, there are tests available that allow one to learn one's OCEAN scores and such. I learned something very interesting just today, actually–I score sky high on the "disgust" scale for contamination–meaning that I'm quite worried about being around things that make one unclean (i.e. non-whites). My epiphany came today in this regard–this is the reason the National Socialists made films casting Jews as rats. The Germans were quite serious about cleanliness, culturally, as it was.
So if any of you folks are going into psychology or marketing, be sure to help push memes that focus on foreigners being unclean and spreading disease. Also, see if you can pair this with induction of thoughts about one's own mortality, and thoughts about one's own ancestors, other elements known for increasing conservatism (in the cultural sense) and xenophobia.

very healthy

Here's a platform:
WHITE COUNTRIES FOR WHITES
STOP WHITE GENOCIDE
ETHNIC EUROPEANS HAVE A RIGHT TO EXIST


That's what Odinist groups are for:
odinia.org/