Why isn't there a /lit/ board here ? redpill me on Evola

Kayden Sanchez
Kayden Sanchez

why isn't there a /lit/ board here ?
redpill me on Evola.

Juan Martin
Juan Martin

Evola is a massive faggot who pushed new age mysticism and feels > real idiocy. I'd tell you to wipe your ass with his work, but it would just make your ass dirtier.

Hunter Thomas
Hunter Thomas

A viral hemorrhagic fever of humans and other primates caused by reading Evola. Signs and symptoms typically start between two days and three weeks after reading the first few pages with a fever, sore throat, muscular pain, and headaches. Then, vomiting, diarrhea and rash usually follow, along with hallucinations about riding a tiger, decreased function of the liver and latent homosexuality. At this time some people begin to bleed both internally and externally. Reading Evola has a high risk of death, killing between 25 and 90 percent of those infected, with an average of about 50 percent.

Adrian Cook
Adrian Cook

you under estimate the importance of "feels" in society.

Luis Rivera
Luis Rivera

nice

Leo Wilson
Leo Wilson

its magic i ain't gotta explain shit

Chase Bailey
Chase Bailey

I've seen this feels over reals argument on /his/ too.
But it implies that other philosophies are all about reals which isn't necessarily true.
Not defending Evola, just the idea that feels are bad or not part of other philosophies.

Jason Perez
Jason Perez

marxists don't believe thought, feeling, ideology and belief have any political relevance. only material conditions matter

Lincoln Barnes
Lincoln Barnes

The Italian edition of The Unique and His Property has an appendix concerning reactions to and influence of Max Stirner's work. There is a chapter within it that involves the far right, here's my translation of Evola's part:

Rather, it took a genuine associate of the Herrenklub of Berlin, a ferocious ghibelline like Julius Evola (never registered to the [Italian] fascist party, which he despised for its “feminine” flaccidity), to come to the true conclusion, for which one and only was possible: Stirner is a Jew. Thus, without any foundation (but whatever could factual evidence matter in such a grandiose design?) we find again Stirner, as “father of integral anarchism”, included by Evola in the list of instigators whom brought forth “the destructive endeavour” of Judaism “in the properly cultural field, protected by the taboos of Science, Art, Thought.” They are, in the order they are evoked: Freud, Einstein, Lombroso, Stirner, Debussy (whom it is conceded to be a "half-Jew"), Schönberg, Stravinsky, Tzara, Reinach, Nordau, Lévy-Bruhl, Bergson, Ludwig, Wassermann, Döblin (introduction to The Jewish International, The “Protocols” of the “Learned Elders” of Zion, Roma, 1937, pages xix-xx; this is the slightly changed and updated version – and the name of Stirner is part of the update – of another list of the great co-conspirers, which Evola proposed a few months earlier: Marx, Heine, Börne, Freud, Nordau, Lombroso, Reinach, Durkheim, Einstein, Zamenhof, Offenbach, Sullivan – evidently he must have viewed The Mikado as a document of Jewish infilration - Schönberg, Stravinsky, Wassermann, Döblin, in Julius Evola, Three Aspects of the Jewish Problem, Roma, 1936, pages 38-39).

With that out of the way, my take on Evola is this:

Evola is the most right wing man to ever live, this is no exaggeration, for he is the man who criticized fascists and nazis for not being right-wing enough. He was the biggest anti-Semite in Italian history, he described himself as a Catholic pagan which is just as honest of him as it is incoherent, and he was the personification of all spooky things known to humankind and pretty much everything that was wrong in the 20th Century.

Bentley Torres
Bentley Torres

We have a /pdf/index.html board

Carson Morales
Carson Morales

evidently he must have viewed The Mikado as a document of Jewish infilration

Jack Richardson
Jack Richardson

not asking about his books, just a tl;dr on the guy and his ideas

Luis Ramirez
Luis Ramirez

was Evola racist ?

Matthew Diaz
Matthew Diaz

Yes.

Dominic Stewart
Dominic Stewart

he really is one ugly mfer

Brody Cook
Brody Cook

southern euro talking about racial and cultural purity

ayyyyy why does anyone take evola seriously

Wyatt Allen
Wyatt Allen

redpill me on Evola.

His politics somehow managed to involve a lost continent. He died of natural causes and old age without having sex. He never was angry at his counterparts for co-opting his absurd fanatic draw towards the rich and the powerful improving themselves on the poor masses when that was his life's dream, he just let Italian fascists apparently in his mind shit all over his work with nothing more than a "meh, oh well".

That's all you need to know.

Jaxon Cooper
Jaxon Cooper

redpill me on
No.

Joseph Watson
Joseph Watson

but Evola has a more individual view of "race", he means lineage. as in your personal genetic legacy.
not "muh white race"

Isaac Young
Isaac Young

european civilization

discarded.

Jackson Fisher
Jackson Fisher

I still can't understand why, even on the internet of all places, someone can reconcile Evola's belief in Hyperborea's existence as a lost continent into his politics, saying, "Yeah but the rest is fine."

Jordan White
Jordan White

ass

Anthony Hill
Anthony Hill

do you even ride the tiger

wtf bro

Jose Parker
Jose Parker

genetic
Nope. His racism is spiritual.

One of his successes was in regard to the racial laws; his advocacy of a spiritual consideration of race won out in the debate in Italy, rather than a solely biological reductionism concept popular in Germany.
Evola's idiocy is like getting two spooks together, namely racism grounded on social Darwinism and materialism, and an anti-materialist spiritual view of civilization, which are in a dialectical opposition, and sublating them Hegel style into spiritual racism.

As the most right wing man to ever walk the earth, he doesn't simply reject Darwin, he manages to outdo your Southern Baptist pastor by speaking of a devolution of man.

Evola's philosophy of history is cyclical as per Hesiod's five ages and ye olden Hinduism four Yugas.

For the time being, in this age you don't go up linearly as per Whig history, nor you go up and down depending on where the Zeitgeist takes you, things only get progressively worse materially, culturally, spiritually - so in order to see some improvement we need some sort of eschaton to get us into the Golden Age and make America great again.

Julian Bailey
Julian Bailey

You won't get any honest answers on him here. You are better off reading him yourself.

Nathaniel Bailey
Nathaniel Bailey

Evola wasn't even being honest with himself

Luke Murphy
Luke Murphy

deep

Jace Ross
Jace Ross

His entire system of thought, if you could even call it that, is incoherent.

Liam Carter
Liam Carter

Unless he had a major self hating rage, he was nothing like the ideal rich wealthy kingdom of lords aryan man he worshiped as a shiny golden god

Perhaps he was just really gay, he was a virgin

Xavier Rivera
Xavier Rivera

Was Stirner really a Jew? I tried googling but only obvious nazi sites pop up.

Carson Perez
Carson Perez

He was a traditionalist so automatically garbage.

Thomas Reed
Thomas Reed

what would italy have looked like with him in charge instead

Eli Butler
Eli Butler

More shitting in the streets. He drew most attention be it negative or positive on France and India, but particularly India.

And well, you know how Italy always has been

Bentley Rodriguez
Bentley Rodriguez

you know some of those comedy skits where a kid who played lots of video games thinks he knows shit and gets by chance to run a country? It'd be something like that.

Benjamin Johnson
Benjamin Johnson

I just realized Evola is EBOLA in Spurdo-speak

Hunter Roberts
Hunter Roberts

marxists don't believe thought, feeling, ideology and belief have any political relevance. only material conditions matter

If thought has no relevance, why do Marxists write philosophy?

Grayson Gray
Grayson Gray

If it's philosophy, why am I reading about speculative fiction about lost continents

Sebastian Young
Sebastian Young

If it's philosophy, why am I reading about speculative fiction about lost continents

I've never read Evola. I'm not talking about Evola. I don't care about Evola. I'm curious about the Marxist thing, which is why I asked:

If thought has no relevance, why do Marxists write philosophy?

Justin Lopez
Justin Lopez

Then why the fuck are you in this thread

Grayson Brown
Grayson Brown

Then why the fuck are you in this thread

Because I was curious about Evola 'cause I'd never heard of him.

Anyway, please stop spazzing on me. I just asked a question. Chill, man.

Jace Thomas
Jace Thomas

What does "hyperborea existed, it existed in the arctic and it was full of aryan kings it was beautiful it was full of aryan kings beauty it was beautiful poor people ruined it it's all their fault India They knew Hinduism" sound like

If you're batshit insane, right up your ally

Grayson Flores
Grayson Flores

1064878
Okay, that's cool. If the guy was just a whackjob, then okay. But I am still wondering about the Marxist thing. I'll start a thread for it.

Adrian Torres
Adrian Torres

You clearly haven't read evola.

Jacob Hernandez
Jacob Hernandez

I read The Hermetic Tradition and its batshit crazy but also quite interesting. It basically shows how Jung was a fascist.

Angel Long
Angel Long

bump.
i'm seeking knowledge you fags

Jackson Green
Jackson Green

Protip: Jews don't write these things:
To this day the Jews, those precocious children of antiquity, have got no farther; and with all the subtlety and strength of their prudence and understanding, which easily becomes master of things and forces them to obey it, they cannot discover spirit, which takes no account whatever of things.

The Christian has spiritual interests, because he allows himself to be a spiritual man; the Jew does not even understand these interests in their purity, because he does not allow himself to assign no value to things. He does not arrive at pure spirituality, a spirituality e.g. is religiously expressed, e.g., in the faith of Christians, which alone (i.e. without works) justifies. Their unspirituality sets Jews forever apart from Christians; for the spiritual man is incomprehensible to the unspiritual, as the unspiritual is contemptible to the spiritual. But the Jews have only “the spirit of this world.”
t. Joo
P.S.: Read. His. Book.

what would italy have looked like with him in charge instead
The answer is: "Oh God please no."

Italy would have gone full Holocaust since day 0 with concentration camps, establish caste systems, radio and cinema would have been used to propagate the spookiest things you can imagine, it's a terrible scenario. Clerical fascism was bad enough under Mussolini, but here they'd go "Catholic pagan" like Evola or eat a bullet.

Remember all those documentaries with Hitler as a sorcerer etc.? Gardell writes in Gods of the Blood: The Pagan Revival and White Separatism:
In documentaries portraying the Third Reich, Hitler is cast as a master magician; these documentaries typically include scenes in which Hitler is speaking at huge mass meetings. […] Cuts mix Hitler screaming with regiments marching under the sign of the swastika. Instead of providing a translation of his verbal crescendos, the sequence is overlaid with a speaker talking about something different. All this combines to demonize Hitler as an evil wizard spellbinding an unwitting German people to become his zombified servants until they are liberated from the spell by the Allied victory after which, suddenly, there were no German Nazis left among the populace. How convenient it would be if this image were correct. Not Socialism could be defeated with garlic. Watchdog groups could be replaced with a few vampire killers, and resources being directed into anti-racist community programs could be directed at something else. […]
The truth, however, is that millions of ordinary German workers, farmers and businessmen supported the Not Socialist program. […] They were people who probably considered themselves good citizens, which is far more frightening than had they merely been demons.
The question is: what happens when you DO have a sorcerer in charge?

An Evola as Marshal of the Empire would have made Himmler and Mengele look like agreeable fellows by comparison.

I don't give a fuck if Italy's War ends sooner in this alternate history, this is the worst shit imaginable, it would have left a much worse, permanent scar on all the survivors and their descendants.

Brandon Gray
Brandon Gray

Seriously, I'm legitimately wonder if the people would be so full of ideology that Allies would consider nuking an European country to end the fighting there.

God forbid anything like this shit has a chance to happen in the next millions of years.

Benjamin Phillips
Benjamin Phillips

Why does my left fist instantly clench up when I look at that guy's face. I wanna punch him so bad. He looks like the most pretentious philosophy douche you've ever seen, crossed with the condescending attitude of a programmer.

Matthew Green
Matthew Green

I haven't read Jung but why was he a fascist?

Jace Green
Jace Green

Jung wasn't a Fascist although he was somewhat interested in German Not Socialism. He believed, in the early years that Hitler could restore a sense of authentic spirituality and community to post-Enlightenment industrialised Europe. If you're interested in learning more you should read his essay on Wotan and Hitler.

Christian Butler
Christian Butler

ass

Landon Bennett
Landon Bennett

Evola was explicitly opposed to New Age Neo-Spiritualism and mysticism. He wrote an entire book criticsing these movements, in addition to numerous essays, and his primary works are filled with countless rejections of those currents.

Read Sorel.

Evola was critical of Stirner in Ride the Tiger (although his attacks on Stirner are limited to a single page and are pretty weak). But according to his intellectual autobiography he was interested in Stirner in his youth and I think many of his individualist ideas echo those of Stirner.

Evola takes Plato's tripartite division of the human being (Spirit > Soul > Body) and applies that to race. So there's a race of the body, the soul and the spirit. He was against biological racism and scientific reductionism which viewed race entirely in terms of the body (phenotype, genes, hair colour, eye colour) which he thought was the lowest and most materialistic form of race. The race of the soul (which governs the body) he viewed as the culture, language, art, philosophy, science, style and fashion of the race, how it speaks, walks and interacts with the world. Then finally the race of the spirit is a race's individual connection with spirituality and God. Evola believes that racial disintegration begins with a loss of connection with "that which is above" which then degrades the race of the soul and finally destroys the race of the body through irrelevant shiting ect.

This is a good summary of his ideas I think.

Alexander Watson
Alexander Watson

yes, marxists might explicitly argue against feels > reals, but that doesn't mean that their argument isn't based on feels > reals
do you understand the point I'm making? it's like saying "yeah, but that's just your opinion, whereas I'm a realist" - everybody can use that non-argument

William Anderson
William Anderson

This sounds like an intentional exercise in being as much of an edgelord as possible.

Henry Miller
Henry Miller

The statement is meaningless. To imply that Marxism is purely rationalist and realist and contains no emotional or irrational elements is absurd.

Elijah Phillips
Elijah Phillips

oh murr

Samuel Collins
Samuel Collins

come to the true conclusion, for which one and only was possible: Stirner is a Jew
I don't need to have an argument, Max is a filthy kike!
Anarchism is jewish!
Individualism is jewish!
Egoism is jewish!

HOLY SHIT

Julius Evola is the original /pol/lack

Lincoln Wood
Lincoln Wood

I am tired reading theory all the time.

Any good Fantasy novels where i can have that Morrowind feeling lads ?

Juan Gonzalez
Juan Gonzalez

He was the original SJW.

Lincoln Moore
Lincoln Moore

discarded
discarded

Levi Davis
Levi Davis

thanks, that was very informative.

Michael Lopez
Michael Lopez

accusing someone for putting feels>reals
thats rich comming from someone on a leftist board

Camden Rodriguez
Camden Rodriguez

without having sex
source?

Hudson Perez
Hudson Perez

my feels get to decide what reals are or aren't
nah

Blake Rogers
Blake Rogers

i haven't denied that Evola puts feels over reals tought

Adam Adams
Adam Adams

yeah a dogged focus on material conditions instead of fleeting shit like culture sure is feels

Jaxson White
Jaxson White

Evola takes Plato's tripartite division of the human being (Spirit > Soul > Body) and applies that to race. So there's a race of the body, the soul and the spirit. He was against biological racism and scientific reductionism which viewed race entirely in terms of the body (phenotype, genes, hair colour, eye colour) which he thought was the lowest and most materialistic form of race. The race of the soul (which governs the body) he viewed as the culture, language, art, philosophy, science, style and fashion of the race, how it speaks, walks and interacts with the world. Then finally the race of the spirit is a race's individual connection with spirituality and God. Evola believes that racial disintegration begins with a loss of connection with "that which is above" which then degrades the race of the soul and finally destroys the race of the body through irrelevant shiting ect.

I thought the "soul" was the thing being divided, not human being in general. Wasn't it wisdom>spirit>appetitive.

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