Spanish Police Raid Barcelona Independence Organizers - Protests Erupt

They will blame it on the right-wingers.

I think giving up independence will be a hard sell if they're more nationalistic than US whites. And if they're San Francisco tier, they won't care about
And with the little I know about Barcelona

Isn't catalonia the community which pays the most taxes to the central government? Why would other communities benefit from having less money?

>thegoldwater.com
god damn please stop shilling this shitty website.

Op you fag forgot to mention it was the CUP
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_Unity_Candidacy
It's basically turbo cucks with dreadlocks the kind of smelly squatters anti patriarchy,pro inmigration retards that oftenly go to harass police for doing their job telling illegal niggers to sell their illegal shit elsewhere.

Literally problem glasses wearing trannies and retarded numales

It would bring the collapse sooner.

Maybe. The difference between Spain the USA though: guns and bullets. Millions upon millions of guns and bullets. Whatever the result there would be hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions, of deaths on all sides.

We whites that are seriously done being forced to live amongst shitskins/commies/jews would actually prefer killing and dying while trying to form a white ethnostate.

The problem (((your))) people would be faced with after such an event would be this: you cannot kill martyrs. IMHO that's pretty much all the white national socialists need to gain a serious boost in momentum.

If anyone still doubted the kikes were behind the independence movement here's your proof.

It is often said that Catalonian taxes pay for three other regions.

Madrid is actually the one that pays the most receiving the least benefits. Basically Catalonia and Madrid pay for most of Spain's social benefits. Pic related from 2012.
The irony is that pro-independence people complain about that while at the same time they are communists who shill for equality and muh values (and the rest of usual bullshit that comes with the cultural marxism starter pack, like mass immigration, feminism and the like).

Which only exist because they have the major ports all payed for with spanish tax money…
Same thing with commiefornia or Belgians.
When you have most of the ports of the country it's fucking obvious you're paying more taxes than a landlocked region (people don't, the firms importing shit from overseas to resell in the country does).

Catalonia, just like commiefornia, once you remove entry on territory taxes, is a commie state guzzling more tax money than what they send back.

Basically this.
But anyways I'm pro happenings specially if they are in my home town and i have the helicopters above me for hours.

regardless of me being more of a pro spanish guy since I can into history and i think it's not in the best interest of the most culturally enriched are to get ruled by literal commies that are the same ones that made the million cucks March asking for more rapefugees before the terror attack and then went full muslims have had their faith hijacked! They are responsible the real victims and now they want independence.

That being said I'm all in for happenings since I love to warm feeling of maybe the day of the rope coming to my town (I'll be the happiest little boy)
I've been training cardio and upper body for that day

some people tried to claim independence from the united states once. they were murdered by the feds, their lands were pillaged, and their women raped for 50 y ears.

The Eternal ((Yankee))

user, you need to either commit suicide or screen the shit you save, you fucking dipshit.

This is only going to make them want to separate more.

nigger i hope you do know the (((confederates))) were colluding with (((france))) and (((great britian))) to overthrow the US government.
that was a side issue. it's only memed and pushed so hard to obfuscate the real actors in the civil war.

Fuck you're right. I remember the one with the list of 6 million newspapers and searching through my folder I thought it was that one.

I've heard Catalonia is pozzed, and don't necessarily like the idea of balkanizing Iberia, but I'm also pro-chaos and pro-Happening, so hooray for protests and controversy, I guess.

The CUP, the main promoters of separatism are literal communists. Catalan nationalism is a "revolutionary" nationalism so it's not condemnded by the media unlike the "far-right literally hitler" nationalism.

SHIT

SHIT TIMELINE

They are a minority in Catalonian Government, BUT the right and the left of Catalonia both support independence from the Spanish, who are straight up Brussels puppets.

That's some great half true right there
Yes there are both right wingers and left wingers who support independence that is completely true

But,most of the right wingers support spain.
While most of the left leaning sport independence.

And amongst the catalonian pro independence right wingers it's some 99%+(of a minority)cuckservatives,so much so that any fashy thing is automatically associated with spain.

One thing I've noticed over the last few days: Everytime the subject of the Catalan referendum gets talked about, nevermind the community even having signs of having Spanish members, suddenly dozens of Spaniards turn up and proceed to write huge textwalls on the horribleness of Catalan independence, all using talking points geared towards these particular communities.

Stinks of fucking shilling.

WOW! Fuckin WOW!

All of the """"news""" is fuckin FAKE.

Catalonia is not the richest region but País Vasco.
And Catalonia receive more from the national treasury than they contribute.

Prepare for the future and kill policy makers and judges now

Not even the left likes them.

Fucking checked.
==“The most precious possession you have in the world is your own people.
And for this people, and for the sake of this people, we will STRUGGLE AND FIGHT! And never slacken! And never tire! And never lose courage! And never despair! ”==

I don't usually go around saying I'm spanish if it doesn't add any value to the argument.
I don't see the text walls but if they write them and are not copypastas then maybe it's someone out of their kindness taking their time to tell you their insights so you don't fall for the fucking media.

As a spanish living in catalonia i can confirm both arguments are common in spain although the national socialist catalonian thing I've only heard one person argue for it IRL.

A referendum could have a big impact even if it just because its both somewhat symbolic (the peoples will) and something concrete and tangible (like a law) the catalans could hold on to it and use it to further their cause down the line maybe even try to get the EU to acknowledge it.

Check out the other thread, there are plenty of Catalans.

Catalonia is also demanding the spanish government allows more refugees. That tells you all you need to know. Its a lefty hellhole, let them have it.

This.

both sides are pozzed, next.

fuck that shit, stomp the commies out and cleanse the negroids, thats how you should deal with this

This is very conflicting for me.

Also spanish civil war as the curtain-raiser for another big war in Europe?

Not for me,I'm catalonian consider myself spanish and i think this will kill catalonia due to majority muslim,leftists etc etc (arguments) but that being said I'm willing to sacrifice this land for more happenings,so europe spirals out of control a bit,so muslim moderates try something stupid like show their real self,so commies stop pretending they care about workers and show their true colours and so the nose reveals itself.
I'm willing to sacrifice this piece of land,i wish it was other that I dint hold as dear but if it helps save the rest of spain and my european brothers…fuck It let's have happenings so that we might awaken europe.
That being said I have a poloce confycompter all night over my head and this was coming to barcelona on the evening.
My guess is there are no muslim drivers on those vans so most leftist are afraid af of the invasion…

I believe that the only reason people like the Basque nationalists or the Catalonian nationalists or the Irish nationalists claim to be left wing is because they existed in countries that were ostensibly "right" wing. So like children, they took the "opposite" position out of spite. I say like children disparagingly but it wasn't a stupid thing to do from their perspective. Leftist organizations both funded by private Jews or by states gave money and support to whoever would bend the knee and parrot leftist political ideology.

Please don't misunderstand me though. I'm not saying that we should try to win over Catalonians en mass by appealing to their nationalism. I believe that they're too far gone. Perhaps one day they will wake up when their homeland is flooded with non-Whites and their culture is being trampled by Africans. If that doesn't happen first and they refuse to allow other European Peoples to live in peace with their own kind, they should be slaughtered wholesale and their genes cleansed from the European gene pool entirely.

If Catalan erupted like it potentially could stay safe spain bro, spain needs people like yourself.
With contrasts to the civil war befor WW2, how influential was Barcelona / Catalonia?

Saludos Spaniard. I'm curious about the situation in Catalonia. I explained why I believe Catalonians are by en large leftist idiots in this post
Would you say I'm on to something or am I way off?
And what is your learned opinion on Catalonians waking up? Is it possible or are they too wedded to religious leftism? How is the younger generation developing politically in Catalonia?

wideawakegentile.wordpress.com/2017/07/24/catalonia-the-newest-european-kosher-state/

Independence of Catalonia is supported by the Jews

Catalan here, I hope we default.

Basques were super right wing traditionalists,and the founder of their now cuckservative political party unironically went for the whole blood and land saying they gave a fuck about the language being lost since it could be relearnt with a dictionary and a few generations but if the basques were to get mixed the basque identity would cease to exist while I disagree with other of his views(he memed for all nations like blacks in south Africa etc etc) 8/10 based man would imprison again for being a traitor but overall I agree with for the most part.

Catalonian and vasque right wing both in a way come from carlism that was traditionalists absolutist but with muh fueros,basques were so based in that their families had probably fought each generation in a different carlista uprising and some of the family members would have fought in various conflicts as young sons,as pater familias with their sons and even as old fats with their sons and grandsons so to them it was a kind of traditional thing,the catalonians also had carlistas but catalonia was more merchant and liberal.

During the spanish civil war the basques fought against spain but it was more like a 3rd party thing,they both disliked the commies and their church burning priest killing kikes and the spanish fashy goys,some(a lot) joined actually Franco against the commies and after the capital of the basque country fell they basically kept on fighting,in catalonia nearly all right wingers were pro spain and catalonia as today was full of commies and anarchists so much so the commies troskists,stalinists and anarchists couldn't even wait for the war to finish to start killing each other.

(Story time mode you can skip the paragraph)
In this context my great grandpa a catalonian factory owner of the catalonian textile industry got his factory expropiated and nearly got killed were it not because some prominent union leader confirmed he wasn't a son of a bitch as an ownermater the war the factory was destroyed and my family left peniless my grand uncle joined the blue division due to his en ending love for commies and my family on that side has been full 14/88 and it seems I'll keep the family tradition even if raised by mostly liberals.
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The thing is that when Franco took power he unified the political rightist movements,let's say we took power in and thus unite the national socialists with the conservatives with the pales with the anarcho capitalists etc etc because of the war effort…but they never came undivided,and carlism took the biggest hit since they fought in their home areas and many didn't make it due to leftists killing them,and since they were monarchist larpers they weren't much loved by Franco either so they were given the honorary front position in most battles,thus they were decimated,the infrastructure of their movement taken away for the sake of unity etc etc.

The commies saw those formerly right wing things things as a legitimate wedge to become again relevant and thus they subverted the movement to the left,turning it into unironical commies since commies would always give support to any national claim as long as it fucked over the west (Hungarians Polish and others may not apply)
Thus you end with abuelo carlista nieto independentista (from a carlista grandparent a pro independence grandson)

That is my take of course it's not perfect and other anons might have more insight into it but basically the pro independence movement in spain was either super right wing or at least liberal in the old meaning of cuckservative merchant since commies were globalists who didn't care for frontiers or governments and believed in the union of all workers

Nigger. i'm part basque(with a basque name), so i've studied quite a bit about basque nationalism and i can tell you its entirely left-wing.
The entire thing is pozzed from the start. It is not an "ethnic" nationalism, but a linguistical one. Anyone can be a basque as long as they speak the language.
Heck, even the name of the "country", Euskal Herria means "the land of those who speak basque".

What is a damn shame, considering that the basque country has quite a fair bit of culture, but these leftists keeps pushing for an universalistic, globalist form of "nationalism" which would ultimately destroy the historical basque nation.
Heck, they are even making retarded claims about the ancient religion of the basque country, claiming it was a "feminist religion", where women held the power, based on (deliberate) misinterpreted information, without any historical base whatsoever.

Also the biggest son of a bitches to sponsor these leftist "nationalist" movements, like the basque, the catalan, and the galician, werent the USSR but the USA itself during the Franco years.

The ETA try this shit for years, try to have the independance of the Basque region by putting bombs, killing cops, lawyers, judges and it didnt work so this would never work no matter what. And this whole "independance" thing its not new, they have been trying since Franco died, maybe even way before who knows, but aslong as Spain have a king this would nevery happend.

Also catalonia was flooded by workers from other areas of spain (even before the civil war) but that is specially significant after the war so a lot of the most pro independence are nothing but overcompensating 2nd generation since they developed an inferiority complex due to well done integration,you fucked them over and bully them till they want to become you,unfortunately now those sane leftist turned into independists who ain't even full catalonians and are the inmense overwhelming majority of the movement think that since they integrated perfectly they are an example that those niggers and sand niggers will also integrate and thus they meme the hardest towards integration.

To me they are like some right wing nazi group in california who at the same time are aginst the usa (when most of the right wingers support the usa) thinking they would seize power somehow after they become independent in the most leftist area with a full independent commie goverment.

If I thought it was gonna be the full 14/88 white nordic ethnostate they sell you here fuck I'd be the first one meme ing here for anons to get on the plane and fight for our land unfortunately it's a big nope.
That being said I don't dislike any white nationalist i can disagree with them on some aspects but I'd gladly join them if possible

I know nowadays it's absolutely pozzed to the infinite and thus you get dyke like leftist punk girls and shit like that but at the very beginning the pnv as by sabino arana was full hard on on the 14 words and even if I don't agree with basque nationalism i at least give him that,nowadays i know it's a reverse 180° from a race rh negativo view to a full civic nationalism based sand niggers with the ikurriña!

top kek

do you know what most people who work for the US military are like?

i feel the exact same way

Mexican?

Catalonia is pozz'd i don't know why anyone would want them to stay, they should force them into a referendum then agitate that the right wing parts of Catalonia remain a part of Spain. Eventually it will start a civil war inside Catalonia and there will be justification to remove leftists once again.

Police state is too apt of a name for this shit.

people need more liberties on europe

None of us condone violence feddie; go oklahoma city fishing somewhere else.
we don't condone violence but we sure as hell would be gleefull if it happened.

I'm flying into Barcelona in a month for a few days before I get on a cruise.

Am I in for a shitshow?

Barcelona is a 3rd world shithole full of niggers and mudslimes, just like Madrid and Valencia. North-west of the country should vote for Independence and cut all ties with them.

Even if Catalonia is pozzed, any move which divides them and the EU is a good one in the long run.

Basically this. If anything, the commie fucks want independence so they can import more shitskins and give them citizenship, granting them immediate access to the rest of the EU.

They're kike commies and should burn

Holla Forums is a board of peace, it's even in the name Holla Forums standing for politics which implies preclusion to violence. I remember when the Muzzies did that about the name "Religion of Cuck™" meaning peace but it actually meant submission.

I fucking hate filters, I typed "lslam".

OP is a Kike.

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I feel these nationalist separatists movements that want independence in name only (since they still want to all be part of the Union, have the Euro and Schengen), like Catalonia and Scotland are such larpers and kike shills. Fucking hate them.

Looks like the Spanish govt wants a civil war. I support every ethnic group's right to self-determination.

We're already crushed, what other option do we have.

It more effective to just have the people ignore politicians and judges … kinda like burgers ignore CNN.

How is an independence referendum even constitutional?
Isn't there a clause in the Spanish constitution that the country is indivisible?

Also, Spanish Civil War 2.0 incoming.

But muh will of the people.

So in Spain, shouts for "independence" mean dependence?

Specifically, "populist separatist movements arising from Spain" are globalist in nature, used for "let me social justice shill on your behalf because I'm just a minority marginalized like you." To fit this narrative, you'd need cryptokikes in the population, you'd need kosherbank support (checked ), you'd need diversity migrant students (Barcelona is the premier EU University of Poz, Google HQ, Diversity Graduate Daycare Network, etc), and you'd need lots of gays/muslims/migrants.

It appears to fit. The only people in Catalonia that consistently make the news are effete, students, migrants, kikes, and people who seem to remind me far too much of hippie happy boomers. There seem to be no 'fascist' (physically fit, well adjusted, well dressed) men nor heavy industry support. Essentially, the merits of separation are irrelevant; the people for separation are not of Catalonia, nor have mightful lineage investment.

Having been to Spain once upon a time, I can tell you that most of your citizens are mudshits, crossbreeds, kryptoturks, gay and/or lesbian autists with strange chips on their shoulders for reasons I never cared to stick around and find out. So it is a bit hard to analyze WTF Catalonia is, or isn't. The NYTIMES seems to think its awesome though, which may yet be reason enough to burn every last independence seeker.

Thank you for your post.

I'm also fairly certain an irregular sizeable minority of citizens are color blind, and/or have vision impairments quite possibly unbeknownst to them. Which would explain the utterly shit choice of colors for the Catalonia flag persisting for so damn long. This is of course irrelevant, but it strikes me every time I see it.

first post TOR demoralisation kike

Yup,most of the independentistas could fit there,it reminds me of feminists as well
I need feminism because kikes tell me oppressed people and victims are cool and since I'm a fucking spoilt princess i ironically will meme myself as a victim when most of my problems are self inflicted.
In their case it's more like let's us together oppose spain my based black friend and sand nigger friend.

Thus you find people beating a long dead horse with some retarded historical claims we wuz kangz on how Christopher colombus was catalonian.
The main reason I might vote for independence is due to my unending love for happenings and because I think happenings will red pill and wake up others in europe,as I said I much rather sacrifice this region to red pill spain and europe than let my children have to fight because I was myself too much of a pussy and wanted cuckservatives to vote,spain and it's politics are beyond redemption so I think they need a kick in the nuts to keep the blood flowing.

A no guns area with basically sjw and hippie boomer who dislike violence wanting independence…they are as noisy as they are ineffective 0/10 they won't do shit,even their police are mostly pro spain on the personal level.

Look at the catalonian flag with the star,then look at the Cuban flag…yup.
Back when I was more of an autistic i thought of going to one of those rallies carrying a banner that said Cuban association of the colour blind.

Its going to be harder to ignore independence referndums after Brexit I reckon.

I don't think that it's related to this, but it might be, a week ago I saw some military cargo helicopters fly towards the Loyola barracks, it has been the first time I ever seen this and I've been living here for 25 years. in some form or another, the military are also preparing for movement.

Muh constitution