Anyone else find it disheartening that there's now the possibility that sixth-gen games and beyond will be lost to time...

Come on, Grandpa, it's time to get off the computer.

So how long does the post game in the later disgaea games take? It took me about 100 hours to shove my yoshitsuna up baal's ass in the original. I'm guessing with LoC there's a lot more to do

Fuck me user, the thought was always there in the back of my mind but actually reading it made me feel like shit.

abandonware is a legal gray area at best though, and the source code for most of this stuff is just gone now.
It'ld be nice to have the real archival autists doing this stuff at place like the library of congress instead of just people on the internet in their spare time.

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Games were already uploaded on the internet and will stay here until some cataclysm and because our hard drives are getting big enough to hold entire console library on it, there will be fanatics preserving it because of how easily they can do it.

Better ways to play them will come in time. Maybe Sony will do what Nintendo already is and make them playable on their modern consoles through emulators. Maybe some fanatic will do his better emulator, maybe someone will find way to manufacture hardware, who knows we have enough time to not worry about this.

Only worry is the more obscure stuff like said.

I wouldn't worry there will always be some fanatic who will seek old stuff.

Games made after 2000 are safe even beyond nuclear apocalypse. Worry about shit like the PC98. There are extremely few places that even keep an archive of them, and their ports. Personally I'm trying to figure out a way to back copies of the PC98 collection to hard drives that are almost impossible to fail, hopefully in the future there will be more stable ways of storing media.

I still need to buy a 98.
Fucking thing's going to cost a kidney seemingly, why can't shit be simple.

Don't bother at this point. Emulation will be the only way to play the games. PC98 hardware and floppies won't last another 20 years. Some things have to be let go, unless you're willing to buy the blueprints of the hardware or whatever and set up a place to make them yourself. Someone could probably make a decent living buying up all the shit in the niche market and start producing them again, like VCRs.

See not even 30 minutes I posted there are already fanatics trying to preserve entire libraries on their hard drives and get blueprints for the stuff to manufacture them.

Op is seriously too worried about PS2 emulation having graphical glitches.

Excuse me? Or is it just that you can't play ps2 games on your shitty laptop with an i3 processor?

I'm more worried about original xbox emulation, that's even more of a timebomb since no emulation is leading to people not archiving games.

Still want one regardless. Even if I have to learn how to keep it upright.

It's not like it takes up much space.

It's because preserving "art" or whatever you want to call it is important to some people, myself included. It represents between months and years from tons of fucking people making some crazy shit 20 years ago. If nobody is willing to preserve shit like that, then everything those people worked for is gone forever. What makes the PC98 even more important is that it was the embodiment of a big moment for anime/hentai and vidya, as it finally crossed the bridge between the two in a crazy fucking way. It got to the point where there were even flash game dating sims trying to recreate what the PC98 did.

Maybe I'm being retarded, who knows. The age of computers before the internet is by far the most important in the history of humanity, and if nobody does anything to preserve it, it'll be gone in 10-20 years.

Thats the thing user, eventually there will be no spare parts left. You'd actually have to start building boards and cards at that point.

Didn't someone upload a library of PC-98 games here? (Maybe not the entirely library but still)

Emulator with good amount on 98 games I think. Forgot name of the set though.

It is just funny how you literally started talking under my post here: about exactly what I predicted.

However I must also say you guys are doing gods work. Even if we are literally talking about porn here, it have connections to current VNs so it is still history, and VNs are not stopping anytime soon so this history is still worth something.

That'll be for a long ass time yet user. There will always be faggots selling shit for older systems in the sake of preservation. If there's niggers selling new sponges to repair 8-tracks in this day and age, why the fuck are we worrying?

pcsx2, retard

still can't run sotc properly

They did, but in the grand scheme of things that really isn't shit. They DO have abandonware sites and even a PC98 archive site with every game, I think. Ultimately, the problem is that eventually those sites will go down, and anons will stop posting PC98 links here at some point. The short term solution is to hoard the games and store them in a safe place but the long term will be convincing future generations to protect it.

It's porn and it's extremely retarded, but I spent my childhood growing up with dated hardware and old rewashed shit from the 90s. I learned to appreciate it and that I wouldn't be the same person had I not grown up with all this old garbage. I probably won't do anything in my life worth recording, but the least I can do is preserve the work of people who I think do deserve it.

For certain things like PC98, no. It's on the brink of death. The only way to get one now is through shady retailers or digging deep in the complete desert that is Akibahara.

Once they're done porting all of last gen's stuff, they'll be forced to port the gen before.

Isn't the entire Yakuza series getting ported to PS4?

Actually, SotC is one of the few games I've been able to play acceptably. Which is strange because it was one of the most demanding games for the system. I wouldn't be surprised if they focused all their efforts on getting that to run well rather than improving the emulator as a whole.

Whenever there's a new version of PCSX2 I try to run Black and Ape Escape 2 to test it out. Both of these have had unacceptable problems for years.

Oh wait. They asking you to pay for you to play old games, that they have rights to, preserved them and patched to modern gen. As if someone told you to pay for new editions of old books/ records or movies. What a shame…

They're only preserved for this little bubble of gaming history.

It'll be figured out eventually.

PCSX2 is never gonna be great if they don't start from the ground up on a low-level emulator. PPSSPP and Ishiiruka wipe the floor with it.

Because of the weird hardware it used. Meanwhile the gamecube is piss easy to emulate.
And the Wii.
And the Wii U is going by fast.
Because the hardware is well known.
That's the key, user. If the hardware is easy to understand then it's easier to make an emulator. It isn't all "the more powerful the console, the harder it is to emulate." It's true, but it isn't what makes emulation development go painfully slow.
There are emulators for consoles older than the ps2 that work like shit. N64 emulation is known for being wonky, for example.

Consoles have been getting closer and closer to using regular PC hardware, so if anything emulation will get easier and easier. Besides the powerful hardware needed to run the emulator, of course.

I'm not by any means an expert in this, but I'm just applying the little I know.

Do you have a link to an archive you would recommend?

emulation should become somewhat easier since consoles are almost identical at this point as opposed to the weird proprietary tech they used to have

Oh, is that why og Xbox emulation is such a success?

What even is this baitposting?
They don't have much from 70s/80s on those platforms which is the time frame we were talking about, and only from specific platforms and small selections there of.

Library of Congress didn't start trying to collect working copies in earnest till close to 2000, it was just small snippets of source code or gameplay videos before then. And they still don't have much of a gameplan for preserving that media even though it too is starting to rot, nor do they have a solution to the hardware/emulation problems, because they can't even work with the copies they have.

This isn't hurr durr I can't pirate, because I can if I want to. But museums and libraries get cockblocked by the laws that I can basically ignore.

Basically, the DMCA, which makes it a crime to bypass DRM.

However, the situation is on-going. For example, it's now legal to bypass DRM server checks on games for which the official servers have been shutdown.

eteknix.com/now-legal-bypass-drm-server-closed/

Silly me. Here's the source link from the EFF:

eff.org/deeplinks/2015/10/victory-users-librarian-congress-renews-and-expands-protections-fair-uses

Are they?

Looking at what little (compared to even just the number of worthwhile stuff on the system library) from the PS2 got ported to the PS3 as "HD" versions/collections, or even the PS2 classics section of the Playstation store, I get the feeling plenty of non-mainstream/popular stuff wouldn't be getting that treatment. Which is a shame since some games/series could stand to use another chance in the limelight.

There's still plenty of worthwhile stuff missing from the PSN and VC as far as classics go. Not sure how things are for PC games, but looking at console ones there's a good number of stuff that hasn't seen a rerelease (such as how, ActRaiser aside, Square-Enix seems to have a refusal to do digital rereleases of any of the older games Enix published). I'm just saying.

I don't have any MEGA links, but check abandonware websites for pc98 windows ports, and check pc98.org/english.html for english roms.

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Sure thing, brat. The internet was a marvelous tool that quickly turned itself as a vessel for faggotry in the highest degree. Nothing of value was really lost when it was gone.

Besides, TCP/IP was a shit protocol to begin with. Can you believe that TCP actually required any communication to accept both \n and \r\n as end-of-line strings, because of a stupid disagreement between electric typewriters and time-sharing devices in the fucking 1960s? It was ancient history when I was your age! Fuck, I hate everything and everyone. Now piss off, you little fucker, or I'll hit you with my cane!

But grandpa, how did people communicate with strings? Were computers made of fabric?

Get dual 1080GTX and you can play it @60FPS in 4K

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All the good games are emulatable. Might as well stop and make new games for those older systems. Have a renaissance of how to make fun games again.

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Ace Combat on PS2 doesn't work well yet. I wish they would hurry the fuck up.

No.

Again, downloading it right now and backing it up to a few drives is the easy part. The hard part will be getting people in the future to give a shit.

If you build a museum they will come.

Hell, even I hate museums. I can name maybe ONE that I actually enjoyed visiting. Karma, I guess.

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Sixth gen? Yes. Everything after that? No. Hell no. Just load up a youtube playthrough and you get the same experience.

And except for the usual scratches on the glossy finish it looks and works like new.

There's a difference between a bunch of fucking pottery art that was popular for hundreds of years and a era of PC gaming that only lasted a few years. Got to put it into perspective, when a type of art is so common to find in the ground that they actually have to throw a fuckton of it away, it should have no problem being passed to future generations, and still took way less effort than vidya.

Of course when it comes to excellent shit like proper paintings and statues and whatnot, that shit is important.

I can still find Atari 2600s all the time at local vidya stores and even the odd Odyssey floating around. There were 155,000,000 PS2s made, it's not like they're going to be rare any time soon.