Harper's Magazine, as esteemed essay journal, has published for their September 2017 cover story an 8 page long piece documenting the increasing number of women in the Alt-Right. It is thoroughly well written, just the type of journalism sorely lacking today. Whether you love or loath the Alt-Right, this is an interesting piece describing a social trend that is not at all unique to our era.
The article is frankly too long to reproduce here, so instead I will post highlights from each page as well as the accompanying art below. The art might be the best part of this piece.
The question of why they’ve embarked on this crusade has a practical answer: No movement can survive on men alone. As one female pundit recently wrote, the prospect of the alt-right attracting women “terrifies the left, and it should, because they know that once a threshold of female involvement is reached, there’s no going back.” The philosophical answer is more complex — as are the intellectual contortions women must perform to justify participating in a movement so hostile to their freedom.
Jose Flores
In an email exchange, Lokteff had extolled the alt-right as “incredibly diverse, just not racially,” with “pagans, Christians, atheists, agnostics and even a few Satanists.” At the bar, she spoke of ideological diversity: free-market capitalists and national socialists — Hitler references notwithstanding, she prefers not to use the term “Nazis” — who find common ground on matters of race. Alt-right men, she added, tend toward a certain comportment. “They’re more alpha-male types,” Lokteff told me. “Girls are kind of sick of the neutered-down, feminist, limp-wristed guy,” she added, flopping one of her hands to demonstrate.
Gavin Cruz
The April group chat on Radio 3Fourteen seemed to speak to women who, like Faucheux, felt that an ever-liberalizing society was telling them how to be and what to believe, spurning them at any sign of parochial behavior. The bloggers noted how unhappy modern women are. To an extent, research bears out this idea: In 2009, the economists Betsey Stevenson and Justin Wolfers published a seminal study which found that as women’s rights expanded, their happiness declined. They posited that “greater equality may have led more women to compare their outcomes to those of the men around them,” resulting in disappointment when they found their relative positions lacking. But Lokteff and her klatch of commentators took a reductive view: If women are miserable, feminism must be to blame.
Christian Jones
n January, Mary Grey self-published an illustrated children’s book called Walls and Fences. “Why do we build walls? We have walls for protection,” the text begins, set against a colorful image of the biblical city of Jericho as its walls tumble down at God’s behest. Grey said she wrote the book “to help explain to my children why having a wall around our country” — like the one Trump has pledged to build along the U.S.?Mexico border — “is justified and a good and normal thing.”
Adrian Bailey
Women have always been part of white extremist groups. Some have even risen to prominent roles. During the heyday of the Ku Klux Klan in the 1920s, an Atlanta woman named Elizabeth Tyler spearheaded the creation of the group’s national Propagation Department. She published a weekly newsletter advising “kleagles,” or paid campaigners, on developing new chapters. Tyler told them to recruit friends, to use churches as staging grounds, and to cast local minorities — blacks, Jews, Catholics, immigrants — as enemies. Kleagles were “encouraged to study their territories, identify the sources of concern among native-born Protestant whites, and offer the Klan as a solution,” Blee explains in another book, Women of the Klan. In the first six months of Tyler’s association with the K.K.K., its membership expanded by 85,000. When she formed a dedicated women’s wing in 1921, Tyler told the New York Times, “The Klan stands for the things women hold most dear.” The wing attracted some 500,000 members over the next decade.
Jordan Garcia
In December 2015, Colin Robertson, a young Scottish alt-right blogger who calls himself Millennial Woes, invited Lokteff, her husband, and Stewart to participate in a livestreamed video chat. The conversation’s topics ranged from Robertson’s gallstone problem to American suffragettes, whom Lokteff criticized as “spinsters, women who couldn’t get married, gay females who were teaming up with Marxists.” Forty minutes in, the comments from viewers watching online started to turn ugly. “These women are the same old tainted, fucked-up strong womyn,” one Chad Thundercock wrote. A viewer with the handle Don Trump commented, “This Lana cunt needs to wash her mouth before speaking badly about MGTOW.” Palmgren noticed and went on the offensive. “These guys are, like, fucking losers,” he said. “Get a fucking life, you idiots.” Lokteff jumped in, her tone shifting from chatty to scathing. “You cowards are hiding behind your avatar trying to talk trash about us,” she said. “You’re a disgrace, and you will be wiped out of this society once men finally step up and get their act together.” When I asked Lokteff about the incident, she told me she has a female stalker who was responsible for the nasty replies. Online commenters are mere “agitators,” she added — an ironic stance for someone in a movement built on the backs of trolls. She mused about infiltration, suggesting that commenters might be part of the Jewish Internet Defense Force or even FBI agents.4 Lokteff’s answer skillfully deflected the matter at hand — the divisive potential of alt-right women.
Anthony Ortiz
In late 2016, two pundits started an online advice column that combined all these rhetorical techniques. “Ask your mom for cooking advice. Ask us about ovens,” read the call for submissions, posted on the Right Stuff, a pro-white website.5 The line between genocidal intent and depraved humor was left deliberately blurry. The two columnists were Wolfie James and Cecilia Davenport, who both used pseudonyms. James claims to be a married woman in her thirties with children; her Twitter picture depicts a pert white woman in a Swiss Miss outfit holding a stein of beer in each hand. Davenport says she is a single Christian woman in her twenties; for a while, her digital avatar was a vintage cartoon of a pretty brunette with a thought bubble that read, “I am filled with hate . . . but in a cute way.”
Samuel Robinson
Early in our conversation, Lokteff told me how similar we were. “You and I are a different kind of woman,” she said, gesturing toward me with a freckled arm. In her left nostril, I spotted a piercing that I hadn’t noticed online; I have one in the same spot. “We’re more political, we ask questions, we’re analytical,” Lokteff continued. “Most women want to be beautiful, attract a guy, be taken care of, have their home, have their children.” If we were so alike, in her view, how would Lokteff pitch the alt-right to someone like me, who identifies as a feminist? She turned the question around. “What is feminism to you?” she asked. My answer — that women should have equal opportunities and be able to choose, say, to stay at home or be the CEO of a company — left her exasperated. “In the West we already had that,” she replied in a rush. “Our men have already propelled us like crazy.” She ticked off examples: White women were the first women to fly a plane (France, 1908) and to go into space (Soviet Union, 1963). Societies like the Vikings (eighth century to eleventh) worshipped gods of both genders. Feminism, the genesis of which she pins roughly to the early twentieth century, did not make things better for women, Lokteff concluded. But it did make them worse for men. “It’s easier for women to get a job because of affirmative action,” she said. “The white male is on the shit list.” I asked how she would convince female Trump voters who, while conservative and maybe anti-feminist, didn’t share her pro-white views. Inspire fear, was the essence of her response. “There’s a joke in the alt-right: How do you red-pill someone? Have them live in a diverse neighborhood for a while,” she said. “Another thing that’s attracting normies” — people not in the movement — “is rape. Women are scared of rape.”
John Jenkins
Implying.
It's just a bogeyman term. A dog whistle that you are supposed to hate these people.
Devos is great anyways public education is a fucking cancer!
Landon Howard
Are you a bot? Betsy Devos was not mentioned once in the entire article.
Brody Lopez
Wow this board is slow these days.
Nathaniel Flores
Come read my article user desu
Aaron Myers
Will bump with more redhead bait.
Ethan Rivera
>She holds a B.A. in English from Duke University and an M.A. in international relations with a concentration in human rights from (((Yale University))), where she was a fellow with the Yale Global Health Justice Partnership, researching South Africa’s failure to compensate generations of gold miners suffering from tuberculosis, silicosis, and other occupational diseases.
Thoroughly predictable record for the writer of a liberal journo. Still, the art seems to be exactly the type of imagery the alt-right desires and respects. Fascistic and dynamic imagery, in a thoroughly contemporary style. That the editorial board chose to run with this I think speaks volumes for the caliber of impartiality at Harper's Magazine: they are telling the alt-right's story the way they would want it to be told. Frankly, as a long time reader of Harper's, which is usually quite liberal, I was surprised to see such bold creative choices being put to print.
Justin Lopez
Also
wut
Austin Parker
You stink like a bot, or a shill. Not sure which is worse.
Christopher Miller
Aight, whatever. You Jewish or what bitch?
Tyler Cruz
Yeah I am shilling for this article, which I read and found interesting so I thought I would share. Problem, faggot?
Andrew Phillips
HOLY SHIT
MEME IT!
This is the best counter to Feminism I've ever seen and they handed it to us on a silver plate!
Leo King
Nice DNC there JIDF.
Jason Robinson
That's not what was implied, and meh.
Choose one.
You didn't answer the question nigger.
Noah Allen
get out, jew
Hudson Rodriguez
Save and share the art, that alone I think is very fucking meme-able
Sebastian Parker
Yeah I am the Grand Rabbi of all of Israel, shalom faggot
Logan Robinson
Also, women in political movements is pointless. Women in social movements is fucking critical. Can't exactly save the white race and build imperium without mothers imbuing their daughters with strong ideals, etc.
Charles Johnson
thats not Sinead you schitzo
Dominic Brown
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Bentley Hill
Fuck off with those hypnotizing eyes goy.
Isaiah Gutierrez
No, I'm suggesting you're just a slippery media Jew using pretty girls to shill your rhetoric. I've seen the tactic used plenty of times before.
Women in political movements is pointless, and women in social movements is pointless - women in just about any movement, is pointless. Because women only have the capacity to destroy and subvert in such capacity.
As Marx once said, to paraphrase, the Marxist Jew's favorite trait in a man is strength, and favorite trait in a woman is weakness.
Chase Edwards
#VALKYRIES against marxist feminism
Gavin Smith
Where do you think we are sweetpea?
Owen Sanchez
Can't exactly save the white race without women. You are the one who sounds like a jew here!
Levi Price
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Joseph Robinson
Well, I'm on to page 2, and I find this:
Seems legit… Gonna keep reading though, this is a real trainwreck, and youre pushing it balls-out suggests you're closely affiliated, and probably a woman.
You can't save the white race with women in an active role either user.
Christian Baker
Yup. Not my article, but I am self bumping. Great observation.
The studies are real, I don't see how merely mentioning countervailing viewpoints in an article is a sin. Its good journalism, the reader can compare the mainstream (((academic))) view with the talking points of these Alt-Right women.
Mason Gutierrez
Yeah dude I am a woman with a big beard and a nice hairy set of balls you paranoid dumbass.
Brody Long
How many men have you seen spout communist drivel in the vain hopes of attracting a pretty bitch? How many have you seen say that faggotry is okay and that they're cool with feminism? These men never used to think such things. These men did it because they naturally desire a woman.
We need women to want to be a part of this new 'White Nationalist' movement. I hate the term 'alt-right' and I understand why most of Holla Forums mocks it, but it seems like it might stick at this point. Doesn't overly matter so long as we have white nations and remove the parasite.
Do remember though lads… If you let women into political positions you will just make the 'alt-right' another 'feminist-friendly' piece of crap that no woman will be interested in. You can show them off as beautiful wives and mothers, you can even record rants that they've gone on about the enemy… but do not give them an actual 'official' position of authority.
Jayden James
>The digital netherworld, however, is also a haven for hate speech.
I'm no fan of Loktef, but this next bit doesn't strike me as especially unbiased, and implicitly sinister tone is genuinely striking. >The April group chat on Radio 3Fourteen seemed to speak to women who, like Faucheux, felt that an ever-liberalizing society was telling them how to be and what to believe, spurning them at any sign of parochial behavior. The bloggers noted how unhappy modern women are. To an extent, research bears out this idea: In 2009, the economists Betsey Stevenson and Justin Wolfers published a seminal study which found that as women’s rights expanded, their happiness declined. They posited that “greater equality may have led more women to compare their outcomes to those of the men around them,” resulting in disappointment when they found their relative positions lacking. But Lokteff and her klatch of commentators took a reductive view: If women are miserable, feminism must be to blame.
>The more subtle effect of her conspiratorial orchestration was to assure female viewers that ideas society deems offensive — for example, a preference for white beauty — feel normal when you’re in the right crowd. “It’s okay to think like us,” Lokteff said. “If you do, there’s a whole tribe here that you can join of girls that actually have your back.”
Grayson Gonzalez
Pay attention to the women they promote, their lineage and what they're saying.
Good, ol' fashion jewish infiltration always starts with a positive article about a new member trying to join the team.
Joshua Martinez
ALT-RIGHT HOMOSEXUAL INFILTRATORS ARE CRYING OUT IN PAIN BECAUSE OF THIS THREAD
MEME IT!
Thomas Barnes
You can't infiltrate our women. They're worst than niggers at this point.
Any budge right is a positive.
Hudson Parker
that's some nice cover art
Thomas Taylor
You even shitpost like a twat.
It doesn't, but that's not what is done here. Its not, its adding an implicit accusation of some sort of manipulation or malevolence, utterly without warrant. >the reader can compare the mainstream (((academic))) view with the talking points of these Alt-Right women. I thought we were talking about (((journalism)))? Is it good journalism to associate such movements with 'fringe beliefs'? To suggest it equivalent to 'conspiracy theory'? Hmmmmm, seems more like its trying to impart an implicit statement about the beliefs of the people in question.
Parker Powell
Comparatively few. Lots, and in most cases, its not about pussy. Its about weakness. The same sort of emotionally-inclined thought processes which I encounter most commonly amongst…. Women.
No, they didn't. They did it because they're weak. Because they don't want to think. They did it because they're cowards, and they don't want to risk for the sake of knowing.
That you Loktef? Your argumentation here even stinks of the twat - sounds much like Loktef's claims in the article you've provided wherein she claims something quite similar.
Caleb Ramirez
I mean…would you say the alt-right is not fringe, and does not have many theories related to conspiracies? I understand that you are bothered by the inflection and the way these words are used as negative slanders, but I feel the article was pretty accurate all told. You have your own opinion. All I am saying is that I am glad such a topic was the cover story and I though I would share it here.
James Thomas
You need to get up to speed.
Nathaniel Ross
Nigga I was born redpilled. I just thought it was a funny juxtaposition.
Jason Stewart
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Colton Richardson
Hmmm.
Adam Sanders
I would say it could be interpreted in such a manner if one chose to present it thusly.
Then you aren't from here, and should fuck off to lurk for 2 years like the rest of the fresh fish newfags, twat.
Julian Flores
stop.
Isaiah Garcia
Durrr been here for long time
Jack Wilson
>With its cheerful voices and jovial banter, the Greys’ podcast has a bubblegum quality. This is calculated. Could have said, "This is intentional"… Why use such - as the media Jews would put it - 'dark' terminology?
So, one cannot 'embrace identity politics' - more like 'acknowledge the paramount presence of identity politics' - without 'aping' the left? Hmmmm.
The implications implied here are astounding.
>White nationalists nevertheless feel vulnerable, and they are willing to put up barricades to protect their privileged status.
Tip Top Kek
Mostly accurate, eh?
Jace Moore
This has tons of pro-white loyalty meme potential. Don't let the Alt-Right homosexuals steer you into MGTOW
Jayden Edwards
Alright, really bitch? You're gonna wheel this shit out to me, calling THESE limp-dicked faggots 'pro-white extremists', and expect me to take this shit seriously?
Oh here we go.
Hmmmmmmmm. I happen to be from round that area. Let's take a look…. >en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathleen_M._Blee Oh! Squirrel Hill! Okay…. Well, see, funny thing about Squirrel Hill…
Life is re-establishment of traditional norms. Which means women don't belong in any movements of any sort. And art depicting women with weapons is like art depicting niggers and aztecs doing science.
Benjamin Parker
i do wonder if flooding the board with trash genuinely stops constructive conversation
Lucas Ross
Yeah since December, this board has really gone down hill. So many shills, bots, and paranoid freaks.
Jeremiah Gonzalez
Go and read what the Coca Cola Youth Initiative actually is, nigger. You aren't even close to redpilled yet.
Every time a white man buys a coke, he's funding his own genocide.
Joseph Cruz
Look I get it. You like muscular men and you think you can use the neets to side with you in a divide and conquer to fag up the young Right.
But that's not going to work on 8/pol/. Go back to asking people about traps on cuckchan
Christopher Wilson
OY FUCKING VEY YOU REPULSIVE GOYIM WHY WON'T YOU BE EITHER CONSUMERIST DRONES OR STEREOTYPICAL INBRED RACIST REDNECKS Y R U SO DISGUSTINGLY NORMAL
Gavin Clark
Has it now?
>Men in the K.K.K. grew so threatened by Tyler that she was pushed out in 1923. Or, could it be, that having a woman as a major part of the movement was damaging in ways this author doesn't wish to mention or examine in detail? >In 1937, Scholtz-Klink proposed titles that women could hold in the Nazi Party, but male superiors objected because the honorifics were too similar to men’s. “They perceived any autonomy on the part of the women as a threat,” the historian (((Geraldine Horan))) writes in Mothers, Warriors, Guardians of the Soul.
One wonders as much, yes. One also wonders if those who attempt to shill their products and rhetoric on this board will ever learn to do so with some subtlety and tact.
Hey OP, whatever twat you happen to be, I got to the end of page 5, where the twat (presumably you) starts addressing other twats whinging about men not wanting weak-minded, emotionally-driven beings as part of social/cultural/political movements, or at the very least, not being thought leaders thereof. Shits trash. Too long, goes into detail about shit that doesn't matter in a vain attempt to form an implicit narrative as regards the mindset of women within the alt-right, or any such movement, painting them as manipulative, psychologically aberrant, if not malignant, and thoroughly malevolent.
To put it bluntly, it comes off as the writing of a vindictive woman who thinks far too highly of herself and her ability to conceal her intent - or else its just another smarmy libshit twat trying to talk shit on other twats to social signal. Hard to tell.
Easton Gonzalez
Gets are meaningless when you try to get them, and you continue to argue like you've got a vagina instead of a cock, as though that doesn't augment my argument.
Valkyries were mythological. Vikings were not.
Brayden Robinson
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Easton Allen
I don't see why you are so angry right now. I was just sharing the article. Any publicity is good publicity desu
Benjamin Morgan
That's insane. She acknowledges whites have the lowest crime rate, presumably knows that demographics are changing dramatically (its pretty central to the whole debate) and wonders why white people might feel vulnerable?
I know "woman" but holy shit. If you're lurking this thread, let me spell it out for you: As our nations become less white, they become more dangerous (you admitted this yourself by saying whites have low crime rates). As we are 'more wealthy' and the narrative being constructed is one of marxist 'oppression', whites are seen as the source of all evil and thus the ones who need to be punished - as opposed to those non-whites who are actually dangerous to society. In other words criminal activity is dramatically rising in formerly white nations due to the presence of non-whites, and the criminal activities are being directed towards whites by the jewish academics and journalists who paint a 'class struggle' where the 'wealthy whites' are the problem for the oppression as opposed to a more grounded biological argument (more grounded because niggers still act like niggers in the USA, UK, France Africa and India - they have always been more criminally inclined and always scorned by every other race on the planet as 'subhuman' - from Persians, Turks and Arabs to Americans, Greeks and the Chinese. The biological argument makes even more sense when you look at muslims - the Turks (Mongoloid) were far more successful than any Arab derived islamic group, and to this day Iranians (higher % Aryan) are vastly superior to Arabs and Pakistanis. You even have Mexican Christians who are lazy, violent, savage pieces of shit whilst Northern European Christians are peaceful and hard-working. Suffice it to say that the marxist argument is bullshit and biology has a huge influence.)
We want 'White Nations'. In a nice safe white nation, like our ancestor's lived in - we would be happy to work hard, to sacrifice, to raise our children and to have our own way of life. These things are difficult to impossible in this vile muddied world that is being constructed around us and without our permission. Democracy failed us. We were never asked! They just started flooding us and destroying us; and so we turn to more direct methods.
Yes men are weak today but that doesn't really detract from the message. Men become strong when forced to become strong. Once you start working out and realise you can change your body, you can change your life, you can choose your own direction in life and you don't need someone else's help or permission - then you end up becoming right-wing. It's why Lefties are pretty much fucked, if they ever seriously try to become warriors they will end up like us - and only the truly idiotic and demented will be able to continue spouting their obviously false platitudes.
If men think women want real men, then rather than telling their crush how great feminism is - they'll work out some and hit on her like the generations before us did. As the man descends down that path, initially perhaps just for pussy - he will become a real man in the process.
Brody Sanchez
There were female vikings I shit you not.
Jacob Cruz
Looks like Florida where I grew up tbqh
Brayden Kelly
I think these grills see big chads larping around with torches and then want one of them as a husbando so they larp along.
Caleb Hernandez
Bump
Thomas Perry
Just like the good Nazi girl who put Mein Kampf on her mantle so her friends could see it but never read it. Its the female way, they see power and they gravitate toward it. And power is shifting….
Levi Butler
women dont have political oppinions left wing, right wing, attention whores all the same teach a woman with an iq above room temp to write and she will spout endless nonsense on pages to garner attention and then go on Holla Forums to get more attention we get it, you want babies and resources for those babies its a deep innate biological drive to reproduce and raise your offspring succesfully
Levi Sanchez
Viking is a verb, not a noun. To go 'viking' meant to go raiding, pillaging and looting. Women did not go viking. It is highly doubtful any women went 'viking', it wasn't even all that common for Scandinavian men to go 'viking'. Plenty did, but plenty stayed home and worked the fields.
After successful raids there were sometimes movements of people to the new lands that seemed worth inhabiting. These were not vikings though, and these women would not fight. Women did follow men to war when it was on a large scale but generally wouldn't partake in the actual fighting unless it became absolutely dire. They were never a front-line force (you may have individual exceptions but when an army is made up of 9998 men and 2 women it is pretty deceitful to suggest that women were actually warriors in the same vein). We should encourage this idea of them following us to battle though, being there to tend to our wounds and make love to us after our victory, and to be a support, a cheer-leader during the battle. We as men do the men's work though.
Austin Howard
FUCK THE HOMOSEXUAL ALT-KIKE! MEME IT! WE ARE NOT GAY SPENCER. WE WON'T FUCK TRAPS! THEY POOP ON YOUR DICK!!!
Julian Smith
Good post. Shield maidens are just that; bitches who carried their man's shield for him so he was fresher for battle. She probably also cooked for him, mended his clothes and fucked him.
Thats a leap of logic. It wouldnt be irregular for a folk whose primary source of income was raiding to possess trinkets and treasures from foreign lands. And that a single discovery in a single grave does not mean that the deceased was muslim or that in fact "many of them were muslim".
Still, interesting article
Joshua Bell
How do you know the vikings didn't just raid a muslim village and that just happened to be something they stole?
William Russell
Not only were they female and muslim, but they were also black too. We're finding new shit out about history every day yo.
Camden Hill
lol okay. and the pope is chinese
Ayden Fisher
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Julian Cox
I haven't read a single post in this thread nor have I read the article (I may later) but I assume that the rise is contrived to make it fail from within. Here's how I see it:
How it seems:
How it will go:
How it will end:
inb4 shill or something. I'm not. I love Holla Forums I love the ideals. I'm not ripping them nor do I right rightwing (NS, fascism, etc.) thought at all. I'm talking about the alt-right bullshit which is, as I see it the most blatant D&C that actually appears to be working on Reddit memelords who embrace it as well as blue hairs and 71 year old cable news drones who want to screech at the right. The alt-right is out there to make it look like the right are just a bunch of edgy 16 year olds whose entire philosophy is to worship e-celebs who TOTALLY DESTROY low hanging fruit on Youtube, while this new alt-left shit is to make it appear like ANTIFA and tumblr whales represent a "small" portion of the left.
Nuts.
Asher Robinson
Chads confirmed.
Benjamin King
HOL UP
Tyler Peterson
lazy *fix'd
Asher Reed
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Noah Foster
The funniest thing about this post is that if a Chinese pope was elected the Catholics on here would still be screaming about how Christianity is a "European religion" and how it's been "subverted".
Lincoln Campbell
THOTS
John Diaz
This. If we make the mistake of giving women political power again we're finished. Apparently it's a trendy thing lately for middle-aged, child-less crypto-feminist women to try to infiltrate reactionary right-wing circles and with the use of white-knights try to purge whatever they perceive to be "anti-woman" sentiment. Women can be used to spread propaganda glorifying fertility and motherhood to other white women or to celebrate the beauty of white women but giving them political power and a voice where they start to demand rights and start to demand that a movement is pushed to be more feminized is a huge mistake.
Anthony Parker
Think about it. It explains their behavior perfectly.
Matthew Wood
I did what I could.
John Cooper
So we push them as being our 'shield-maidens' in the vein of
We want women to be a part of our movement, we just do not want them to have any political power or official authority. They are our wives, mothers and sisters; our cheer-leaders, our 'shield-maidens'. They follow us to battle, they support us, they tend to our wounds and love us; and in return we fight for them, for a safe future where they can have our children and liv according to our ways.
A blend of shield-maiden and cheerleader memes is probably a good idea. They're not warriors; they're our support, and our prized possession.
Tyler Anderson
Just don't underestimate feminine coercion (and the white knights that spawn with it).
Brayden Bell
In a short time, there's going to be a reverse bolshevik revolution. Instead of good people, millions of leftists and criminals will die. I used to think that revolutions happened when peope were emotional, passionate, or excited. I know realise revolutions happen when the very idea of revolution becomes mundane and commonplace. We're at that stage now. If someone knocked on my door and told me to take my gun, there was going to be a revolution, I wouldn't be surprised, in fact I would do so completely naturally. I couldn't care less.
Levi Fisher
That's fine in theory but I just don't see it working out. Again, not trying to just shit on things with no solutions, but the idea of them being "They are our wives, mothers and sisters; our cheer-leaders, our 'shield-maidens'. They follow us to battle, they support us, they tend to our wounds and love us" is all nice and rosy until another group tells them how they're "so underappreciated and need to be liberated!" You're not going to get them to be content to sit on the sidelines when they genuinely believe that it doesn't matter who is playing QB as long as there's a QB who wears the same jersey.
Checked and agreed.
It's not even about disliking women (which I don't [I have my complaints like anyone does about anything of course]), it's simply about acknowledging the realities and limitations. I honestly don't have a solution; just adding my two cents to the mix.
Blake James
Well such women are not welcome. Only the ones who want their men to be their men, and who are content themselves with being our women. I'm not saying we ask feminists to join, I'm not saying we water down our message; if anything we strengthen it.
We control the memes, we influence who joins and who doesn't. Maybe the shield-maiden art will give women the wrong idea and make them think that they're actually going to be a part of the fight- so maybe we scrap that. Make it all about them being our 'cheerleaders'. Women love the hot cheer-leader aesthetic whilst being fully aware that those cheer-leaders have no part in the actual 'game'. That's what we want to push. They are our women in the traditional sense, our possessions which we love but which do not exert any control over us or our ideas.
If they do not want to be a part of that then fine, we remain a 100% male 'group'. If some do, and this thread is sort of evidence that for that, then great. We just need to make sure they don't get the wrong idea.
So cheerleader memes!
Josiah Allen
Also keep in mind that no matter how few or how many women a movement has, it doesn't increase its ability to project violent force, only the amount of men decides this factor. And women will gladly fuck the victors of any violent conflict and have consistently done so throughout history and will continue to do so forever. In fact I think the main take-away from this sudden increase in "alt-right shield-maidens" is that these women suddenly feel safer with us than with the reds. Women should intuitively know which side can provide them with most safety because their instincts are evolved to make decisions based on what would keep themselves and their children safe.
Kevin Nelson
Women in a movement are a bad idea. But having them as supporters, as they've always been in the old times with war, might help. Even though white feather women in WW2 sent many men to their deaths, it shows just how easily their manipulation of empathy can be used, and I think we do need to use that when it comes to getting more normies on board. Never give them a position of actual authority. But like with children being used, it strikes at the heart of the regular person so that they might rethink their position in life.
Aaron Hill
I personally always enjoyed listening to AM Grey's content. It shows us how relations between men and women ought to be, complimentary not combattitive. Though of course we are not entirely equal by nature I do not think we gain much by treating women the way shitskins, puas and embittered MGTOWs would. That said we should avoid the pitfalls of feminism too with massive social ostracism and bans for the concepts of no-fault divorce, single motherhood, feminism etc.
Adam Mitchell
I made a terrible image in paint to show the sort of things we should be pushing. Nurses, cheerleaders, mothers. I think the shield-maiden art, whilst awesome, makes them seem a bit too 'masculine'. Whilst we know it wasn't historically we do not want to risk giving off that image.
Thus do stuff like what I've done (but do it better because I'm fucking awful at making memes, I'm just showing the basic idea here). Nurses, cheerleaders, mothers!
Nathaniel Butler
Modern women only live to follow what is popular and virtue signal. If (((the Alt-Right)))* gets popular, more of them will latch on to it. Of course, once those ideas are in thier heads, we can nudge them closer to us as the Alt-Right collapses. *-let's not forget.
Dominic Reed
There was some sperging a while back because a Roman coin was found in Japan. Sure, Japan used to be multicultural, it was in no way an interesting foreign trinket that made it's way east down the Silk Road.
Eli Williams
They're all pretender whores.
Jose Ward
You can't divide what was never united.
All women are traitors. Good things don't happen.
Owen Phillips
MGTOW will continue Robb's right so long as women exist. Even if you had no Jews, the 80/20 rule is simple fact. And of course…
Good. Things. Don't. Happen.
Isaac Parker
That's a good start. Honestly, if we get mothers on board, especially young ones still in their prime, I think we'd get a good hold on empathy manipulation. I know quite a few mothers who used to be vaguely feminist until they had a son (or when he grows up and gets his first false rape accusation), because then everything that's against their kid comes out and many can't ignore it. If we can channel that into them wanting to support what we want, then we've already won.
Michael Sanders
PR FAGS BTFO Seriously don't deny being a national socialist. This is fucking normalization of the movement. In 2 years people will be openly identifying as national socialist. Good. Push these faggots away, if they try to join the right don't let them. THERE IS AN ENTRY BARRIER. It is not a right to be a national socialist, it is a privilige you have to earn. Push these cucks to the left and bring the strong towards us. Holy fuck this is honestly perfect. WE ARE MAKING PROGRESS
Isaiah James
There is only one solution.
Omnicide.
Good. Things. Don't. Happen.
Elijah Thomas
You. Can't.
Try it. I dare you. Post about it here once you've done it to prove it.
Good things don't happen. EVER.
Thomas Foster
Nigga you need white women if you want to make white babies. Getting them on board with traditionalism will help us in the long run, unless you plan on making test tube babies or sticking your own dick in your asshole.
Jaxson Green
And regarding your whole 'good things don't happen', have you not been paying attention? We have Brexit. We have Trump. We have LITERAL White Nationalists marching in the streets.
Good things be happening aplenty.
Aiden Russell
Are you that one ASSES AND ELBOWS HELP ME I CAN'T STOP SUCKING COCK faggot?
Jace Edwards
No. Life itself is the source of all problems. Creation is a Crime against the Created.
Those are not good things. Those are setups for an even greater torture. You must be new here.
Ashes
Carson Roberts
Fucking knew it.
Carter Garcia
Take a guess. Who else could it be? I'm right and you know it. Try to lead a woman and save the race. Watch what happens.
Daniel Jones
RIght. Nice to know you're entirely retarded.
Jordan Harris
Just wondering… Why haven't you killed yourself? Is there some residual hope deep down inside where you think we just might be right? Or are you actually just a blackpill-shill? Because if you truly think everything is hopeless and life is a crime against you; then surely you should just off yourself and be done with it?
Christopher Bennett
Because I'm a coward. And because the Voices stop me from it so I can witness more suffering. I'm not just a spec, I'm a prophet of doom and damnation.
Carson Perez
As long as women don't try to take leadership of any movement and stays firmly in #2. I say let them virtue signal traditional values all they want.
Nathan Howard
Talk to me here. Phone posting is an itch. Maybe you're the one who can finally help me kill myself
TheRealZonKu[email protected]
Jacob Peterson
Nice job. Screencap a text file or something to post it, god damn.
Colton Morgan
NOTICE ANYTHING WEIRD IN THIS THREAD? LIKE ALL THIS FEAR (((POSTING)))?
?
Grayson Baker
They can't. When they try to stay subservient, they only build resentment and then their liberal friends turn them against you. Every woman has liberal friends and they are always worth more social proof than you.
Good things don't happen.
Lucas Harris
seeeeee
Sebastian Anderson
Nigger, it has already been pointed out that it's the autistics and echoes faggot. Shut up already.
Austin Nguyen
You see everything good that happens as false hope, without which the inevitable failure and destruction would not have as great an impact. I see everything bad that happens as the darkness of night growing ever deeper, each small good thing a star shining out from behind a cloud; and it will all end with the coming of the light in the morning. The coming of the light would not be so great without the darkness.
Only one of us can be right, and neither of us will know until the end. Surely it is better to live in hope, to expect the coming of the dawn and know that the dark cannot linger forever? If you kill yourself now you will never know the truth; so you will not kill yourself. Look forward to the rising of sun … and stop shitposting your ASSES AND ELBOWS HELP ME I CAN'T STOP SUCKING COCK bullshit, and don't reply to this as we've derailed the thread enough. God bless you user.
Jackson Ortiz
And I'm still right. You still know it.
And tell kampfy that his wordfilter sucks.
Gabriel Peterson
No. Never.
NEVER EVER!!!
I will continue to scream until someone helps me kill myself. There is no light; only Eternal Misery.
Good. Things. Don't. Happen
Landon Gutierrez
There is no coming dawn; only Eternal Misery. There is no light; Only Eternal Misery. There is no hope to hold; Only Eternal Misery. There is nothing to look forward to but the burning Glow of Samson's Wrath.
I'm right and you know it.
Wyatt Ward
I am starting to get flashbacks of GG
That is just asses and echoes user, just ignore him
Cooper Stewart
You're thinking like an individual. You can't build a nation without families. A man can't build a family without women.
Owen Young
fuck, responded to the wrong post.
Christopher Baker
Thanks OP
Henry Collins
Yeah but women like to FEEL IN CHARGE. So that language/framing prolly won't work. Would you want to be possessed by someone else say, a jew?
Frame it by saying that men are their workhorses and protectors might be better. "Why try to plow a field with your bare hands when a yoked horse could do it better? Why concern yourself with duties that are better suited to men when your family and the world needs you doing the best work you can do in a role that only you can fill?"
I dunno, needs some work but you get the idea.
It's all memes. You have to make the meme palatable or else it won't take root in the host mind.
Benjamin Perry
I think we specifically do not want them to feel in charge because of where that can lead; but pushing the idea that their work in the home is incredibly important and the best thing that they can do is a good idea. We obviously don't want to crap all over women and make out that they're useless, but at the same time we want to stay away from any equality-type buzzwords.
Your example was great though. Not only is it true, but the fact that it is likely to fill them with pride should dissuade them from wanting to pursue more masculine roles.
Angel Nguyen
Power Word: Zon Kuthon
What's the matter? Banned everywhere else, so you've got to come back here and shill your neurosis?
Gavin Bell
this isn't well written into the oven she goes
Luis Jackson
Not hostile to their freedom, we just know what is good for them better than they know themselves. "freedom" in the modern sense or perhaps (((freedom))) for a woman is slaving in a meaningless job for a jew corporation instead of raising children and making the home nice, along with empty promiscuity that destroys the bonding mechanism and leaves her lonely and depressed in the end. The freedom of obedience to a good strong husband is infinitely more satisfying to most women, deep down they know this is true
Henry Cox
lol. so this was your main problem. you are a virgin cuck. fuck off. it's not women's fault you are a loser
Julian James
Looks like asses and elbows is back. Are you guys not familiar with this faggot? He's a demoralization shill. Just report and ignore. ASSES AND ELBOWS
Thomas Allen
Save Ashes, Save The World
Jacob Garcia
Soma sure is one hell of a drug
Brayden Reed
Refresher. I cannot fathom why women (or men) would want women to be vanguards of any movement, party or conflict that could ultimately end with their very lives - like in the case of the Beer Hall Putsch. We hope for a brighter future but people do not join a movement because everything upon that path will be sweet and rosy, the fact that they're glorifying imagery of valkyries while ignoring what it entails just confuses me.
Christian Morales
Nice.
Cooper Jackson
Top kek, they actually wrote this in their article.
Christian Lee
Lokteff, Sinead, and others in "the movement" are merely feminists who want to have their cake and eat it too. They're only on our side because they don't want to be raped by niggers. They are still feminists, and they WILL try to subvert and destroy, as is human nature. The allegory of Adam and Eve exists for a reason, people.
I don't mind if women want to identify as white nationalist. That's perfectly fine. The issue is having them in positions of power. Women should be at the sidelines, or only reaching out and talking to other women. Men should NOT be taking any sort of advice or political ideology from these fucking women.
So they're a bunch of attention-whores "clowning for the boys" (as was said of Camille 'I'm not like all the other feminists' Paglia). I am Jack's total lack of surprise.
Alexander Lewis
if you cryptokikes really think that WN will succeed without the involvement of half of the white population, you are fucking delusional.
see how motivated these liberal whores get when someone threatens their pet immigrants? what if we turn that into protecting the white race/culture? I'd guess that 80% of women are malleable enough in their beliefs to be redpilled by proxy. We'll have to gas the niggerlovers, but that's an acceptable compromise.
don't fear the vagina, re-purpose it to meet your needs.
Jason Cook
its either a bot that read the image or a retard tha read only the image
Parker Ward
revolution is a spectator sport you only need about 10% of peoples support, the rest will fall in line and obey
Kayden Davis
(triiips) i dont think that OP(5ae873) is bot, maybe its not a shill. but clearly its not from here. its strange, the mixture of avatar fagging and the way in witch he has all those posters prepared tell me that something its not right we have a weird thread development also. i cant pin point exactly, shill or bot
this images are top notch
Levi Parker
Holy hell, Sinead just can't win a single one.
Robert Russell
Who and where the fuck do you think you are? Our?
Anons by definition reject labels and group hierarchy which is why the alt-kike and trap right and other namefaggy eceleb controlled op cuck brigades are generally shit on here.
When you shekel sniffers and traitors get BTFO it won't be at the hands of some kekistani soy bois or FUCKING BASTE redditor normalfags LARPING as right wingers. They will serve merely as a distraction while deep-cover Anons start tearing shit up from within. Do you even understand that Holla Forums has sleeper agents in the fucking Whitehouse? In various Fortune 500 corporations? Inside investment banks? In telcos, construction companies and various service industry outfits? Not to mention military and law enforcement. Do you realize that all these Anons are just waiting for shit to pop off to start subverting your treasonous leftist cuck regime and when the time is right will act –completely independently– to ruin your kosher day?
And not just Holla Forums. There are white nationalists of all stripes who have been hiding their power level for years just waiting for the time to be right.
When the time comes, and it will, your heads will spin at how quickly the reigns of power slip from your grasp.
As for women, lol. As always they will just go any way the wind blows. In that moment it will be important to remember who the traitors are and punish them, and among women the traitors are legion.
Ethan Foster
The question about wether women are good or bad in politics becomes irrelevant once you destroy the multiculti- lgbt propaganda machine of the jew.
If, when you are about to vote for nationalism or open borders little jamal comes all over you on every news- outlet , covered in blood, his clothes halfway torn off it is just true that women react differently than men. Just a fact.
But the real problem is that we grew into this middle east war narrative and the African famine problem with decade long propaganda campaigns (30 bucks so Tyrone can have his eyes back) that formed such a massive meme that it's almost a religion.
This just has to stop and a huge re- education effort made to start fixing the problem.
Banning women from anywhere is just dnc strategy to distract us from the real problem.
Isaiah Sanchez
Despite you crapping all over me, you have a point that we are anonymous and not a part of any groups. What I was suggesting, which I think became obvious if you followed the conversation; was that we can shape the path of the alt-right/new-right/white-nationalists/whatever through memes. Like it or not the majority of them (not the controlled opposition figureheads) are our allies and want similar things to us (as Holla Forums). We can ensure that women who join understand their place - as nurses, as cheerleaders, as mothers. That way we do not have to worry about the actual controlled opposition figure-heads trying to put women in positions of authority (well we will always have to worry about what they do, but we are the propaganda wing that can shape them to a large degree and we should take advantage of that as it limits their ways of manipulating the 'alt-right' and allows for them to be exposed should they reject the 'grass-roots' memes).
If you want to just wait for Hitler, sure. The way I see it we have a huge opportunity right now, and regardless of whether we achieve a full victory or not, we will certainly be able to make a lot of people more receptive to the nationalist message which may well help should Hitler actually turn up.
Noah Flores
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Nathaniel Russell
Wonder what that symbolises?
Cooper Hernandez
Wtf I hate white women now.
Anthony Long
Welcome back Asses and Elbows
Carson Thomas
Strength survives. Weakness dies. Women are attracted to strength not just physical not betaman arguments. TL;DR Strength gets women "on board" nothing else.
Connor Lee
OP here. This times infinity. You can convince a woman to do anything as long as she trusts in your strength and dominance.
Isaac James
Uhh, Spencer has a wife and kid.
Thomas Smith
If that's the case then they shouldn't have been supporting policies that turned men into little pussies for serveral decades.
Brandon Russell
yup this is what D&C tactics do. the entire Richard Spencer is gay argument rests upon a single funny tweet and a picture he took in college wearing a toga. Thats it. Weak willed people buy into these dumb things and attack people advocating for their behalf.
Dominic Morgan
(((You))) are such a virgin that doesn't know what a shit test is.
When western men snap this will happen:
If the men don't snap one of the following two will happen:
Or
Carter Watson
It's called the pro-white movement, but not everybody have gotten the message yet, so they say the alt-right, white nationalist, nat.soc. etc.
Gavin Wilson
this Shieldmaidens weren't real and nordic man didn't picture being taken from battle by his wife or the women he had fucked or some loud shouty bitch. The valkyrie that came for him was basically the waifu in his psyche.
Ethan Price
Breddy gud deflection, but Ive seen some physically revolting pictures of her with groids, supposedly on her birthday.
Eli Richardson
>(((satanists))) need any more proof that the whole alt-lite meme is another kike puppet show?
Tyler Ross
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Liam Ortiz
My partner is my other half. My lilith and my eve. My inside and my outside. She will follow me wherever the battle takes us. She will fight in our physical arms and actualize her vril when the time is right. Better dead than red. Sieg Heil.
Jordan Bennett
That Styx guy or whatever is one I can think of. The others are overt anti-kek/pepe/meme magic shills, who shill moloch and were for Hillary.
Ian Clark
Not red, not dead. Dead reds.
Samuel Howard
He's more of a loosh farmer than anything lad, everything he does he does because it's edgy - he's been like this for years.
Aaron Brooks
He is far too cowardly to kill himself and he is a schizophrenic.
Blake Bailey
I'm not savvy on my degenerate memes, is it some kind of bondage thing or something?
Jayden Cruz
Most of them really are just bitter virgins who don't get out enough.
Logan Gomez
There is little to no organization or power in any meaningful sense in any nationalist group, yet. YouTube talking heads are morale boosters, nothing more. Their influence is incremental at best. I see nothing wrong with females in this role. Personally, I'd rather look at a babe boosting our signal than another fat guy.
I think you underestimate how independently people on our side think. You wouldn't be here if you let e-celebs tell you what to think. The same holds true for everyone else here.
