Where were you when you realized The Inca empire was the first state socialist society with central planning and no...

Where were you when you realized The Inca empire was the first state socialist society with central planning and no money or markets.

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I think it's a stretch to call it "socialist", since land was either owned by the Sapa Inca or the families of one of his dead predecessors

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Yeah, I would call it auto-cratic preindustrial state socialism

The inca civilization could have been really great indeed. When the spanish found them the existe for a little more than 100 years.
If they would've have established earlier, i'm sure they could've fight foreign invasions.

It's also funny that they had roads, but never discovered the wheel lol

Didn't need the hyphen there

Something like 90% of the population got decimated by european disease, so I don't see how they could have ever survived

Seems pretty weird that they would have created massive cities, complex logistics networks, sophisticated works of engineering and many other great accomplishments and yet never notice that round things roll.

With more depth cultural ties, they could have put up a better fight. yes it's true a lot of people died by disease brought by european. But the spanish also had lots of help from other native tribes that the incas had previously conquered and weren't too fond of them.
But they still exist and quechua has 4 million speakers.

We need to enphatize the narrative of primitive communism and how civilizations like the inca were capable to such feats like machi pichu.
Communism is the natural state of man and we must return to it

IIRC the Incan Empire was in the middle of a civil war when Pizarro and company arrived, I think it was at the start of its decline, given the whole policy of assigning all lands conquered by a king to that king's descendants once he died

This is a bad idea, you're just paving the way for primmies.

Hardly primitive communism if you had a state and private ownership. You even had slave like labour.

There was also this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chan_Chan

I don't see anything specifically saying they had a non-market economy

Oh that's just a city from another civilization on the desert which had some amazing irrigation systems
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They knew what wheels were, but without any proper beats of burden they didn´t have any practical uses.

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I remember learning in high school that the Inca supposedly had brain surgery, and not as an experimental kind of thing, but a well-established practice. It would not surprise me to learn that civilizations wiped out largely by disease before the European settlers met them were far more advanced than we usually give them credit for.

Fuck off

Source?

GET THE FUCK OUT BACK TO TWITTER YOU FILTHY NORMALFAGGGOT

did the Inca workers owned the means of production ?

Seconded.

I'm sure if you hitched enough Llamas to a cart they could pull a decent amount of weight.

sounds like feudalism

The Inca Empire is wild and incredibly interesting, but I can't see how you can be socialist with a hereditary ruling class.

If anything it was a kind of like a proto-Juche

Thank you for bumping this quality thread

It sounds more like Marx's "asiatic mode of production" to me: a bureaucratic state headed by a ruling class that manages production and allocation of goods in the entire empire, a kind of centralised feudalism without markets.

Yeah but then also Inca lived way the fuck up in the mountains so it would be a huge pain to roll shit up and down hills constantly, and they'd have to train llama and breed them for that kind of work. It took a long ass time to breed animals from their natural versions into the livestock versions, and Inca weren't around for very long.

They were nonwhite so they are Holla Forums heroes.

If they'd been around longer, they would have had their own diseases to give the colonists. It would be a disease war.