You have 10 seconds to prove that Mr. House isn't the best option for new vegas

you have 10 seconds to prove that Mr. House isn't the best option for new vegas

protip: you can't

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he will die in 20 years anyway so might as well go YesMan and get a head start

The best option for New Vegas is uninstall.exe

you have 10 seconds to find a new board to make template threads.

protip: get out

Because taking the fucker over for myself is better.

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Rigging the game isn't very nice.

Maybe if he didn't hire that faggot Legate.

Actually its Doctor

I think it is pretty common knowledge that the House always rigs the games.

Let's consider the other choices

After securing the Fort, you get a shitty little badge or 'branch'
You get cucked
You're still the bitch of the General
You remain a citizen

You get a shitty little coin
Again, you are still a 'civilian' and aren't made a full legionnaire
You are still the bitch of Caesar/Lanius

Basically a cuckold's ending. You let Vegas be squandered by the normalfolk of the Mojave and Yes Man becomes more assertive, so you can't boss him around anymore.

You get a shitload of cash
You're basically in charge of Vegas and get every luxury it has at its disposal
House treats you as an equal
Vegas grows and maintains order due to the securitrons
NCR and Legion babbies too pussy-whipped to gain any control over vegas. House rules supreme

I think the best ending is clear.

Good/neutral karma Courier with no nukes and peaceful resolution in OWB.

That's not true, the reason he upgrades himself is so only you can give him orders anymore. Look at how happily he told you Benny's entire plan just because you told him to.

you have 10 seconds to prove that Elijah isn't the best option for new vegas

protip: OP is a fag

Grasp at straws some more will ya

Because despite what he claims to be, he's a lot less intelligent than he lets on, such as not taking into account that The Courier could just as easily taken over what Benny had started or how he doesn't even know what's happening in his own fucking casinos. The logic behind his fascination with Snowglobes can also be applied to the rest of the Mojave, he doesn't really have an interest in moving on from the Old World, advancing it much further, or getting his securitrons to do something beyond the bare minimum despite what he claims, he wishes to stay in a static world that he can easily turn over at the drop of a hat. Legion and NCR attempt to keep what they get, and have the potential for evolution both in terms of society and technology. Even doing the bare minimum with the Courier results in Yes Man being uploaded and integrated with everything House ever had on his databanks, with the now assertive Yes Man potentially continuing society long after the courier's death. Only thing House did right was telling you to kill the Brotherhood, and even then, Caesar wanted to do the same thing for similar reasons of them being Techno kikes.
Although we all know that Legion under the Legate is the shittiest out of them all.

I just wish you didnt have to blow up the Brotherhood of Jews to do it. Other than that it was clearly the best option. You have no experience in estate management or want to. When House says he'll have us in space in a few decades, I believe him. The only real choices are House and Independent, but Independent just seemed too unrealistic.

If you kill house the player pretty much wins by default

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It's almost as if New Vegas came out six years ago and hasn't had any updates to its story since!

this is now a Fallout 3 thread

vegasfags get out

I'm a better option that not howard hughes

ok

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true

they are both trash

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Check my halal get for the glory of God, infidel.

Legion with Caesar in charge is also acceptable, considering that the courier is probably the best candidate for the next Caesar.

I don't see you complaining on Neptunia or Katawa Shoujo threads

DELETE THIS

Delete these, instead.

Gotta try harder than that kebab.

i can do a better job.

Is the Bozar any good was thinking of using it in the Divide alongside the riot shotgun. I got taken down a peg thanks to the deathclaws so I ran away and learned to make my own turbo and with a bundle of those I can handle the deathclaws easier JE Sawyer's mod not accounting for the hp loss making them two hit me irritates me

I always used the Anti-Material Rifle or the Multiplas in the Divide. I didn't play with that mod so I don't know what that changes.

You get the reputation of General without the responsibility.
One of the lines in the cut post end game said, while there is still much to be done, they won't ask for your help due to being overqualified.
It is actually a good thing that you aren't made part of the Legion.
Less of an equal, more of a son/daughter.


Unlikely, you are an outsider unless Legate dishonors Caesar.


True but Yes-man can still say no to you if he really wants to. Even if he is eternally loyal to you, he is going to out-live you and New Vegas would be ruled by a full robot.

Yeah but the Yes-Man option only makes sense if you don't think long-term anyway.

I mean it already starts with the fact that the Courier has no knowledge on how to repair or maintain the Robots and has not diplomatic connections inside the NCR to keep exploiting them, two things House has.

As long as you don't care about the future that's not an issue of course.

Unless you put your points into Repair and Science?

It should be obvious that going for the independent ending as a low intelligence retard courier isn't a good idea, I doubt anyone would argue against that.

Didn't I show you up in the last NV thread, you dolt?

I picked independent because i'm a egomaniac that wants everything done my way.

There is also the immediate future. It was implied that unlike the House or NCR ending noone recognized you as the leader considering that you came out of fucking nowhere. It is supposed to be the anarchy ending after all. Not only that but crucial few days after the chaos would be without the Yes-man's help.

True, the Yes-man is proof of House's fallibility but Miss Kinda-responsible-for-getting-you-shot-in-the-head might keep you in a short lease in morality department.

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Yes. Devs literally confirmed that the yesmans code change is him changing so only you can command him.

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Independent New Vegas is the best option because it's the Mary Sue option, duh.

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Who said anything about trust? House is emotionally stunted,has a godcomplex and compulsive obsessive disorders. He would never betray you out of some egotistical reason, but would always betray you if its benefitial to his long-term goal.

Which is why any sane Courier working for House has the override codes and Executive Keycard up his sleeve for that event.

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the best option for new vegas is anime mods

It is the safety net option. It allows you to finish the game despite pissing off everybody in the planet.

Let's talk about FO1. FO1 had an additional timer that led to the Unity invading Vault 13. The problem was with the exception of Vault 13 and Necropolis that the game doesn't show the mutants attacking that place. If the game has shown the attacks happening while you are playing or increased the frequency of mutants encounters, it would have telegraph the idea of needing to hurry. Imagine if Second Battle of Hoover Dam wasn't perpetually postponed until you finished the main quest.

Nah, he totally is. That's a part of the problem really. Mr House would end the post apocalyptic fallout world by bringing back the old world, and the series could never have that, lest it end. For that reason, hos ending will never be the canon ending. But it is the best option.

Geez, and I thought Legionfags were deluded.

Adding to this, I think the canon ending would either be the Yes man ending, or the NCR ending.

Eh, you have a point. Let me rephrase. He was going to bring back the infrastructure of the old world, and then use that to build colony ships to go off and find a new planet. He had a long term plan, so that in a century or two the fallout world would be irrelevant.

Might be the best option for humanity, but horrible for story telling.

Cheeked.
You are right Satan especially loli mods.

Go look on 4chan. There are multiple threads that are literally copypasted ops. Why try make a thing of it

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The grayest shade of grey is still gray.
The entire game is a deeper look at political systems, their pros and their cons, and the fact that there is no perfect solution.
The NCR represents, for the purpose of this game, a democracy. It even puts this fact onto it's nameplate: NCReplublic, Res Publica, The matter of the people. Even if there is lore about how the NCR is not truly a democracy, that is the entire point.
A true democracy can only work on a small scale, and even then it is limited by physical abilities. Democracy means that more than one person discuss and decide upon their actions. In modern days, due to an increase in population that makes it impossible to hear everyone's opinion, all of the people vote for a smaller amount of people to represent them and their opinions, who then discuss and decide, but this is where thee trouble starts.
What if the majority of the people votes for something that will hurt a minority? Is it still democracy, because the people want it that way, or is it a dictatorship, where some people are suppressing some others? No everyone can be happy in a democracy.
The Legion represents reason. As much as you may disagree with me on this, this fact is true. Ceasar acts in the most logical way to keep his empire at relative peace, and ensure the safety of his people. Even if this means that 50% of his people -the females- must suffer for that.
Mr. House represents a monarchy. He didn't give a shit about the people of old Vegas. He didn't make his immortality technology available to everyone. He "sits" on his "golden throne" kept alive by technology that could be reproduced to save thousands. Instead of rebuilding Vegas immediately after the apocalypse, and saving even more, he waited for the NCR to come along, and play into his hands. He is egoistical and represents nothing but himself. He doesn't give a shit about anyone but himself.
However, his ultimate goal is to save humanity, at least he claims it is, so he is all right…right? Well, as soon as his goals shift into making you his bitch, he and his allmightly robot army is going to be unstoppable. All it takes is this one man to make a mistake and you are all doomed. He bears ultimate responsibility, sure, but with that comes ultimate power. If he decides that you outstayed his welcome, you are dead.

None of the three ways to govern a country will make everyone happy, and the moral of the story is, that you should strive to govern yourself as much as possible, or is it?
Those who govern themselves are the raiders. They don't follow any laws, or rules of society. They can go out and do whatever they want, as long as they actually CAN do it, they are fine. However, this means that the raiders can and will do morally questionable things to others, and since there is no overarching government the few raiders can seriously fuck up the entire wasteland.

No form of government is perfect, so you have to pick one and go with it. Look at history, we went from Democracy with the greeks, to oligarchy with the earl Romans, to a Monarchy in late Rome, and back to a sort of Oligarchy in the early medival times. After that we went to a time of total Monarchy, which was overthrown for democracy (french revolution), and back to monarchy (Napoleon). After that we got democracy, socialism, and back to oligarchy in the modern age.
We went through forms of government like a girl changes her clothes, and this system is still ever changing. We havn't found the perfect form yet, and that is the message of FO:NV.

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Well, that was his plan. Would it have worked? Who knows.

I know, you'd have to be some sort of troglodyte to think I'm baiting.

Josh Sawyer just meant that he is still loyal to you and chose to only you at his own free will.


Wouldn't it be better to let him run New Vegas like a whistle, write his will, give you the keys to New Vegas, and become a legitimate heir to his fortune?

I can pay you to delete these.

To be fair, presuming you kept the Think Tank and Mobius alive at the end of Old World Blues then simply fixing up Securitrons shouldn't be all that hard (and the various bits of tech in the Big MT would probably give you a nice bargaining tool if you need edge in negotiations (and regardless of what you do to the scientists, the DLC epilogue explicitly states that the Courier uses the tech in the Big MT either to help others or crush their foes depending on karma).

And there's always the possibility for a Courier with 100 Repair and 100 Science to maintain the securitrons using their ridiculous degree of knowledge on tech matters.

Further, if you pretend Fallout 4 exists then apparently some random pre-war idiot needs no skills/perks to build their own robots (with the right DLC) and can build fully automated turrets with a few perks (apparently no-one on the Fallout Wiki has bothered to list the exact levels of the perks but I'd argue they sound rougly equivilent to new/better turrets unlocked with 25/50/75/100 points into Guns or Science) then maintaining a robot army should be a cinch for a reasonably tech-literate Courier (again, especially if they managed to complete OWB with some of the scientists still alive to get new tech off of).

Basically if you're going to go Independent and make sure you max your non-combat skills while recruiting all/most of the Mojave factions then Independent is arguably the best ending (it loses points if you are interested in improving things outside of the Mojave like would presumably happen in NCR or Legion). If you just ignore or kill off the other Mojave factions and focus on the combat then Independent is by far the worst ending.

Seriously though, why doesn't anyone bring up the Big MT when talking about the New Vegas endings though? Even if you just shoot everyone you're still looking at a treasure trove of tech that was right at the cutting edge right up until the bombs fell (and the main scientists apparently didn't stop their work after the bombs fell).

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We should ban these cuckchan threads immediately.

Based Howard Hughes

This is my biggest problem with the Mr House ending. It all relies on him, he has shady motivations, and if I remember correctly, he relying on colony ships that are already in space, right? I seem to remember him mentioning that they are circling the solar system or something like that. So who knows what kinds of problems they would have.

House lives in the Old World. He is not as capable as dealing with the new world as the Courier.

Led by "just recently allowed not to be doormat" robot that would out live you.

Forget Big MT just think for a second what a single vendor machine from the Sierra Madre could do. It's literally matter replicators.

Elijah was absolutely right when he said the Vendormachines are the true treasure of the Madre, not some shitty goldbars.

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He doesn't lead it. He works for you. And if he got out of line, the Courier is more than capable of destroying him.

There is the implication that Yes Man can travel between securitrons, but I'm sure there's some way to isolate him from the network before you off him. And if anyone could manage that, it would be the Courier.

It's impossible to argue against Independent ending because the Courier is a demigod.

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He's playing Old World politics. But things don't work the same in the Wasteland. He used his superior technology to impress some tribals, doesn't mean he's gonna rebuild America. He couldn't even deal with the Brotherhood of Steel.

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Yes Man can't say no. Lock him up somewhere, get a lawyer to design your commands as if you're dealing with an evil genie, and you're golden.

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Can you give an example where his old world politics didn't work out?


He never tried because they kept in their bunker far away from their strip and were at best more of a hazard to the NCR than him. As soon as his plans came to a point where he decided they need to go, he dealt with them by ordering his henchman kill them.

House is nothing without the Courier.

ulysses pls go

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A Courier I am able to easily and legitimately obtain, you mean? Maxing out all your stats and skills is simple, and all you have to do is go through OWB and you get access to ridiculous powers. Cyborgjesus mary sue is pretty much the default protagonist for New Vegas unless you actively try to do something else.

Or you could take it, and either get the NCR to take care of it (literally the good guys from the original fallouts since they springed off of Shady Sands and are bringing governing back to a lawless wasteland of a country) or you if you don't want that, you could just tell everyone to fuck off and make the place independent.

That's part of the kicker though, the Big MT is where Sierra Madre got all its tech from, you can even find the lab that the dispensers were origionally made (though it is destroyed). Get the Think Tank on your side and cooking up new codes for the replicators (as well as blueprints for the devices themselves) should be simple.

Seriously though, access to the Big MT is a gamechanger, there was an ending cut from OWB where you could side with the Think Tank like you could Elijah in Dead Money, in it the Big MT spends the next few decades apparently dormant before the Think Tank take over the entire Mojave using mad science and brainwash the entire populations of the NCR and Legion for shits and giggles. (Source is :fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Old_World_Blues_endings, in the cut ending section).

NCR is well meaning but they are also an overextended bureaucratic mess. The Enclave is superior to the whiny NCR.

Not the point you literal retard. Basing any argument entirely on what your character would do or could do is simply retarded.

You might notice that nobody else here does that.

The Enclave is also exceedingly dogmatic and unfit to rule because everyone will always be on their ass for being assholes and tyrants.

Yeah but

If you played FO2, you would know how fucked up the Enclave are.

And? No matter what you do, the Courier is the strongest Fallout protagonist, by far. Because of that, the ending where they assume power makes the most sense.

I did, and they're still a better shot for the Wasteland than the NCR.


The Legion seems to do just fine and their subjects are quite content.

The Legion is explicitly going to fall apart the moment Caesar dies unless the Courier is there to save it. That's the price of tyranny.

OK then what makes them so great?

Caesar's plan was to talk New Vegas and use its strengths and strategic position to stabilize the Legion. It's all fucked if he dies before that though yeah.


NCR will build quickly, stretch too far, and collapse leaving tons of helpless and starving settlements left without trade or supplies. That would never happen under the Enclave.

I find it unlikely that in the entirety of the Legion, Caesar is the only one with the will to lead a nation. Is there not another, more loyal Joshua Graham figure within the legion that Caesar can call upon?

No. There isn't. Not a single one of them can do it except you. So if you don't do it, they're all fucked.

Well i have you know my character is a INT 1 mongoloid otherkin so your argument is invalid.

You can say that about every faction, though. They all rely on the Courier in a big way.

Then you probably should pick a more appropriate ending, like the Legion.

It is pretty easy to not have starving settlements when you go around killing all of them.

gee, I wonder why I shill for independence so much

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Pre-war humanity was too savage to handle technology and destroyed themselves. Post-war humanity is 10 times more savage and House claims more technology will solve everything. MUH SPACE. Autistic and narrow-minded.

NCR: already an inept bureaucracy full of corruption and bribery before it truly even became a nation. A dead end.

Independent: a bunch of oddball communities of squatters, junkies, hippies, and fucking cosplayers all groveling to the Courier for protection. Pathetic.

Caesar's Legion: An autocratic military force taking the wasteland by storm, crushing tribalism and repurposing humanity to serve a higher cause. I used to defend this one, but I realized Caesar in the modern day would be a globalist, so fuck him too.

Everyone stinks. Let's give those nukes another shot and hope nothing gets up this time.

Yes, he is stronger than them. Why is that so hard to understand?

Oh i'm sure there are plenty with the will. But the fact that the Legion is entirely build on a cult of worship for Caesar, it's unstable.
Lanius has the will to lead. And his subordinates obey him because they fear him. But does that make him a leader for the empire?
When the governour of Two Sun hears that Caesar is dead, will he immediately pledge his undying allegiance to the mad Warlord who is fucking around miles away in a Desert?

Like hell the Legion would obey you. You are some random faggot in the wasteland. You could have picked the third founder of the Legion but you were too busy sucking you avatar's cock.

Underrated post.

actually it was severe resource crisis combined with aliens triggering a nuclear launch that resulted in the world being bathed in nuclear hellfire.

It's not human savagery that's the problem. It's scarcity. Scarcity inevitably breeds conflict. This is true of any species. Not just humans.

Wait, what?

Unless you're prepared to consider fallout 3 and its dlc non-canon. The mothership dlc points out the Zetans had access to chinese launch codes.

And there were allusions to possible alien interference in fallout 1 and 2. Though not to the extent that they straight up triggered the apocalypse.

I envy you, user. Fuck Bethesda for eternity for making that canon

Fucking Bethdrone eating Todd's shit. Ignore.

They don't crush tribalism, they wipe out localized tribalism and supplant it with a new tribal mindset. The Legion is pretty much simply the biggest raider tribe in the US. not that there's anything wrong with that

It was implied in Mothership Zeta while the resource war was slowly push aside with FO4's opening.

There's a single line of text in a computer log hidden somewhere in a optional section of Mothership Zeta that implies that a abducted general thinks that Aliens want nuclear launch codes from him.
Anons have been sperging out ever since.

Because he was a pretentious 200 year old faggot who thinks he's all that just because he froze him and his nuts in a preservative chamber for over 200 years until he looks like bacon left out in the sun too long, that was using you as a tool for his own gain.

Also why did he keep his fucking casino completely empty save for a few robots? What a cuck. Who's to say he wouldn't turf you out after he no longer needs you to wipe his 200 year old ass.

The aliens have been there for some time, and they are hostile towards humans. That much is known. It's not really a stretch to think they may have interfered in Earth politics.

You can be better than him.

maybe it was just a prank

well that's an easy one. the whole place is his protection and life support, and he doesn't want creeps like Benny snooping around it. his robots (as far as he knows) are the only things he can completely trust. the fact that he let the Courier in shows how desperate he was.

ELECTRONIC OLD MEN house..

On a serious note why exactly did he keep himself functioning and alive for that length of time? What was he actually doing? Doing the bare minimum of running vegas (which the kings, or anyone else probably could have done). There would be a power vacuum sure, but he wasn't really doing anything besides sitting on his ass before the courier came along.

Benny was a bit of a desperate cuck but it was never anything personal towards the courier as far as I can recall.

Actually forget i said anything. My argument is based on the idea bethesda would care about being consistent or think logical.
For all i know aliens really did blow up earth for shits and giggles.

Ulysses, you fucking lazy nigger. Get off that fucking rock, and help me decapitate the fucking Legate, you useless fucking coon.

He took control of the strip, gathered ressources and used those to finance his search for the platinum chip which was essential for everything coming next. Digging up a tiny 200 year old artifact takes time.

Oh, I only played and beat Fallout 3 before any of the DLC came out, and at that point I was too bored and disgusted to give a shit anymore.
Wow, fucking aliens really did it, then? Jesus, Bethesda.

he was in a fucking coma for most of the time because the OS he ran of was so shitty it kept crashing. that's why he needed the platinum chip so badly; it's basically a service pack.

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I really wish there was a version of Fallout wiki that completely ignores Bethesda's fuck up instead of trying to justify it.

Canon is canon, man. You can imagine 3 and 4 never happened if it makes ya feel better. People have weirder headcanons.

Quit being their bitch.

Bethesda's Fallout is incompatible with the rest of the series. It would be nice if text were highlighted with a color representing its source.

I plan on doing something very horrible to bethesda (and Toddy) if they get their jewy little fingers on S.T.A.L.K.E.R.

Those assholes didn't make good of their threat before FO3 got released. Now the industry is poisoned.

Then ignore it like I said, you spicy bastard. I wasn't defending Bethesda, cool your jets.


Feel free to make that. I bet a lot of people would appreciate it.

Get out.

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You come in this thread and do nothing but whine about Bethesda, contribute nothing to the discussion, and then tell me to get out. There's plenty of other threads about Bethesda's flaws if that's what you're really wanna talk about. Fallout 1 and 2 were great games, everybody knows it. But Bethesda owns the franchise now and no amount of bitching will change that. So ignore their canon, or get over it. If you're really pissed you could make a lot of money and buy it back from them, then give it to Obsidian or Interplay or whoever you want. You've been saying the same thing for years and it's not helping anything. Go derail somewhere else.

sage for off-topic

For how much they wanted you to use power armour, there are a lot of times they forgot to consider you might be wearing it.

The courier can be a cyborg with auguments, and even if his stuff started failing he could just put his brain in one of the things the OWB scientist have. He can be immortal

It's stated that the brain gel eventually damages one's brain, which is why the Think Tank is so insane.

A wiki is a community, not one person. Also, the one of makers of Wikipedia tried to make Wikipedia with quality control. Its good articles just get pasted to regular Wikipedia. In other words, only the most popular survive.


And get brain damaged like those assholes.

that's because Mobius was putting some shit in their brain gel that was damaging them

I think you're mixing up cause and effect here. Mobius didn't drive them crazy, he only decided to wipe their memories and keep them contained because they started getting crazy and emotionally detached.

No, all Mobius did was destroy their perception of time.so they wouldn't be able to escape Big MT, and he did it because they had already gone mad.

Meanwhile Caesars Legion and the NCR expanded all the way to new vegas whilst Mr. House was still trying to get his bearings.. And talk about putting all your eggs in one basket with this Platinum chip shit!? He waited 200 years for that instead of just spending the time he had improving upon what he already had so that he could have had 200 years worth of accumulated power.

Also not employing any human assistants up until the courier was a retarded factor as well considering that all the robots in fallout are basically C3-PO with a little less self awareness. He could have spent his time trying to appeal to the people of new vegas instead of being it's shrewd and reclusive master.


Yea.. Fuck this guy.

Were you paying attention to the game to the same degree FaggotFist did?

He has been in a coma and only woke up a few years before the NCR showed up.
I guess your Courier didn't get shot in the head since Benny doesn't exist.

House ending may as well be canon because as we all know, New Vegas was the final Fallout game ever released.

Did we play the same game?
Is this bait?

Have i been rused all along?

This. It's there for normalfags that fuck up or want to put the brotherhood in charge.
It is also the only option that cannot be canon: there are tens of different indie combjnations. Also, indie requires you to nuke both legion and ncr, because the mojave can't stay independent if those two big powers are around you.
Mr. House IS a genius. His strategy goes beyond diplomacy and technology. There are hints indicating that the BoS is planning of taking over New Vegas. The first attempt requires hacking. If it fails they are going to 9/11 the lucky 38.
New Vegas has a big fucking weakess that an army can exploit to get right in the middle of the strip: the monorail. Mr. House had his competitors guarding the backdoor, and he made it so they though it was a gift. Did your courier see the great weakness of new vegas? Would have your courier come up with a clever idea to fix the hole safely? Mr. House did, and he foresaw the brotherhood attack too.

About that attack, look at the strategic map in mcnamara 's room. It may look like they simply marked the centers of power, but some are missing and there are also secondary and useless locations on it: black mountain for the remote hacking, mccarran for invading the strip and attempt the local hacking, repconn and nellis for the 9/11 b plan. Also, the BoS has been playing with viruses and McNamara is heavly investing on a secret project lead by a programmer. It's not a coincindence.
The BoS was planning a desperate attack on mr. House to take over the securitron army, and in case of failure they would have destroyed the lucky 38, hoping to give an opportunity to the legion to attack so that the bos would run out of the mojave covered by the chaos.
It was all there, and your courier didn't see it.

Which is the point of that entite plotarch. The monarch, even if benevolent and omniscentient, is nothing without his people.

gtfo
i've beat it as all of them and caesar's legion is by far the worst

Of course not, OP.

The House Always Wins.

LOOK AT THAT FACE. THAT FUCKING FACE, THAT FUGLY FUCKING FACE! I JUST WANT TO GRAB DRIVER'S NEPHI GOLF CLUB AND BASH IT UNTIL IT BENDS!

Because he's a bit of a dick who only cares about vegas.
That said, everyone is an asshole, and is worthless. NCR are corrupt californians, and Caesar are a bunch of assbackward tribal shits.

Independent best choice.

Guy was an idiot.

I go independent because the only thing other factions offer is war. Independance offers peace.

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Caesar wasn't providing enough of an incentive for his far-spread "empire" to remain united, he took slaves from within instead of without and did not improve their infrastructure well enough for them to warrant staying together and was already facing stability issues back east. If NV wrote him better and fleshed out his territory more gameplay wise then sure he would be viable but otherwise nah.

Been a while since I last played to be fair since the game would crash almost as much as 3.

This zombified old nigga can't even come up with good preservative acumen AWFUL


>Implying the Courier is the only person in the wastes who is of any use to anyone plot-wise fairly true
Yea Benny is one guy user. And furthermore put all of his faith in one man, and it was Benny at that.. First time meeting him and it's apparently clear that he's a weasel, House was obviously too clever to figure out that one though.. LOL

Yes user.. House just wanted to fuck your ass all along, there's a bit of an age gap but I'm sure his mummified cock won't mind ;)

nigger he is literally Walt Disney

what are you fucking gay?

Is it possible to kill absolutely everyone and everything in New Vegas?

Maybe that's the best ending.

Yes. You'll have some stuff that respawns forever like fiends but it's totally possible to have an ending that goes "and the couriers wrath etc everything dead" for every faction.

Or you can just drop the cloud on vegas and fuck em that way.

No. Yes-Man respawns. Just so you can't lock yourself from all quest lines. The in game explanation is that since he's an AI he basically body surfs and swap to another securitron.

well it's the rule you shit, i don't make 'em i just follow them and give folk some reminder that there is rule on Holla Forums when they broke one, you don't like it ? then take it to Holla Forums mod

good day shit for brain

Still, though, reading it out makes you look like a faggot. Chances are it was a mistake. Just report and move on. Typically, a mod'd just trigger the spoiler.
Not that the mods give a fuck about the rules anyway. They'll ban you for absolutely no reason, regardless of what the rules actually say.

Who needs House when you have the think tanks?

Yo where's the recommended mod list

I did have the pastebin from months ago but it's expired, not sure if anyone saved a copy or anything like that.

It's like you guys don't want to become a wasteland superpower.

Damn

pastebin.com/C1BM7JNj
This one good?