So, why is the catalog filled with "Look what this e-celeb has to say about it!" instead of a thread or two with anons expressing their opinions?
I think I'll make a thread just for that.
Back when I saw TFA, I saw a bunch of good stuff I liked, some moments that were properly built… and a large amount of stupid shit no director should be able to get away with. When I left the theater back then, I knew one thing: the next movie would either improve, pick up a new story instead of re-hashing the same plot points (because they already did that to bring back fans, no need to re-do it) and expand the universe as we know it or… completely fuck it up, rehash shit left and right and piss off every single fan.
Credit where it's due: Midichlorians aren't in and they still managed to rape the lore anyway. That's talent.
There's a bunch of scenes ripped striaght from Empire Strikes Back and The Return of the Jedi, but those rehashes are actually peculiar: they take the original scenes, completely miss the point and the reason they were there and fuck them up.
For instance: when Rey falls to the dark side on her training (same scene has luke finding the dark side too), the scene will break down if you think about it for longer than 5 seconds:
Luke had a warning that his rage and hate would destroy him and it foreshadowed that Vader shared his blood. There was a lesson there, implications to the plot and it established the dark side as a seductive force that can tempt and destroy the weak of spirit.
Rey on the other hand, literally jumps in, no hesitant, not once but twice, and has a bullshit moment about her parents and wanting to know about them. Lesson learned? Nothing. Any plot point linked to her parents? Not really, it's not said who they are, it's completely missed the rest of the movie and despite the "muh parents" key being bashed on 8 or 9 times throught the movie, it's never revealed who they are.
There's also the rebels. I can look past Rey becayse fuck this nu-Twilight bullshit (lmao, I can see your chest silly boy) but the rebels were the absolute worst part of the movie. They wanted to give Poe an arc where he stops being the hotheaded shitbag he always was (they compare him to Han a lot) and learn how to be a commander, caring about his troops and not making heroic-suicide sacrifices.
Well, mission accomplished, I think he learned that. What did it take? Well, the movie starts with 400 rebels. At the end, there's 40 of them. So good job everyone: Poe learned a lesson and it only cost them 90% of the rebel forces. Fucking A grade job.
That goes double for ALL the rebels. If you watch the first 3 movies, a minor gripe I had was "Well, the heroes pull that insane shit because the bad guys are just imcompetent and dumb". That happens here and there and it's the kind of minor gripe I can give a pass.
On this movie however, thebad guys are still imcompetent as always, but the rebels are 100% pants on head retarded. Throught the movie, they formulate 5 plans:
and when that doesn't work
Every single one of these failed spectaculary, costing hundreds of rebel forces and yielded NOTHING to help them.
This shit isn't like Empire Strikes Back where the rebels get their shit slapped but still have enough to go on.
Since their allies told them to fuck off at the end, the rebellion now consists of:
And that is the main reason I'm no longer interested in seeing the next one. Probably gonna pirate it for shits and giggles but unlike TFA, I exited this one knowing full well that because of the way they wrote themselves into a corner, the next movie will only see the rebels winning if the script pulls a fucking DeusEx-Machina-Asspull-Fridgelogic-Marysue crap every fucking 5 minutes.
But there's a few good points I need to mention. Because they were fantastic and it brings out the whole film since they were put right next to the shittiest moments ever.
For instance: when Kylo and Luke fight. At the very start of the fight, look at their poses. Kylo assumes the traditional Sith battle-stance (low, agressive) while Luke takes the traditional Jedi Stance (standing, proud, defensive).
It really shows you that there's gotta be one or two people on the team that know their shit about Star Wars.
Then Kylo assumes the retarded "sword pointing forward" stance that symbolizes inexperience and he fucks it up.
That about sums up the film: you get one tiny good detail and think "it's starting to come together!" and the quality takes a nose dive. Repeat for 2 hours.
