How long until pol autists come here thinking we are Clinton supporters?

my schadenfreude nerve

Holla Forums here, this.

We saved murrika, but now we can save the children and bring those sick fucks to justice. Some of the kids may still be alive, and young enough to be able to forget what they were put through

is that French for virginity?

Nope. Sexual morality is a spook created by societies formed by capitalism. As a former child, I can attest to child sexuality's existence. I wanted nothing more than pedo cock as a kid and had even developed various fetishes before 8 years of age, but the worst part was I never got what I needed - a good dicking - because I lived in a conservative home. Fuck anyone who denies sexual freedom to anyone.

We were also doing that for liberals in case she lost too.
Sorry, but we weren't giving you special treatment

Damn.

lmao whatever helps you sleep at night buddy

Holla Forums won today while you will continue to wait for a revolution until your deathbed.
Consider suicide.

Enjoy your Louis Napoleon. See you in 4 years.

I thought this whole board was just Holla Forums posting ironically?

No.

Impossible. Holla Forums has no grasp of irony whatsoever.

u mad bro

That would actually explain a lot because you seem a little low on content.

Say, can you recommend one of those "books" you guys like so much? Now that the fourth reich has manifested at long last I'm not sure what to do with myself.

I really like Graeber's Debt, along with his other works. Do you mean theory or just in general?

Here you are friend. Trump isn't a fascist though, he's a demagogue.

Don't worry, those should be few.
It is generally assumed that you guys, should Trump win, were on Trumps side all along.
Just like the legacy media that has started sucking up a week ago or so, as well.

Zizek came out in support of Trump, no one likes Hillary. Third way centrism dying was necessary for the left to revive itself.

Technically yhe guy is referring to sex slaves which is a bit worse

So it's safe to say you're in complete denial that the left is dead.

Our guy Zizek came out in support of him. We fucking hate Hillary and I personally think a Trump presidency is going to be hilarious. Even funnier than when Bush was in office.

Trump was the final nail in the coffin, and totally discredited the left in the US.

we're already here

How so? All this did was shit on Hillary and all the liberal faggots. Now we're the only alternative.

Yeah, the people who blew up half of Europe aren't dangerous to anyone either.

It would be dead no matter who won friend. Hilary is status quo neoliberal who people think is a leftist, Trump is a populist and his win could kill off the third way centrism that killed the left in the first place. I'm under no illusions, but this is overall more beneficial than had Hillary won. If Hillary had won it would've been another 4 years of neoliberalism.

The left can't revive itself in America without an economic crash. The rising third world economies could bring another Depression on.

You say that like it wasn't already. We didn't have a horse in the race. The fact that Bernie made it okay to say socialist again is significant, but menial.

we know you're better than that. you're irrelevant and usually wrong, not completely zombified.
Have fun with those Stirner memes lads.
t. Holla Forums

Communism was a spectre in 19th century. That didn't stop anyone.

How?

I think they will be very disappointed at Trump, assuming that they sincerely believe in the ideology that they uphold. I remember getting baffled by 4/pol/ sudden support for Trump a year ago, as to why a political board that hated merchants (i.e. Nazi + libertarians) would support a corporate businessman. I literally thought they were shilling at first.

I think the Left has already lost since Bernie stepped down, and afterward got splintered into people who voted for Hillary against Trump, and people who voted Trump against Hillary. It's pretty hopeless, really.

Oh fuck off Stalinstache. You're the cancer killing the left. The reason the left is dead is because they think of a ML cultist whenever they hear the word leftist.

Was Bernie Sanders filter removed already?

It ius odd. They back him even though he supports Israel and trans bathrooms.

Wew, I'm a leftist and I don't worship the false god KEK.

Also, I think it's just the way it is. After OWS, obviously the massive amount of progressivism (and its commodification by the power that rode the hype around it) would generate reaction afterwards.

Fuck off to Marx if you want to circlejerk with your irrelevant cult.

I'll repost what I said in another thread: What happens to the Democratic Party or whatever action it takes is important because it is what the public-at-large perceives as the biggest representative of the left. Tonight's embarrassing loss, courtesy of the Democratic Party, coupled with growing sectarianism within the party (as opposed to the Republican Party like we predicted weeks ago), means that the left will not be taken seriously for quite a while.

And what Left would that be? Venezuela? Democrats? Marxian economists? Frankfurt school? Maybe SJWs?

Because if it's them, I'll have to answer with "you say it like it's a bad thing".

Who? We have regular visits from people that believe in something completely opposite.

People have already disassociated the left with the democrats. The treatment Bernie got and the growing popularity of socialist and communist parties is a pretty big indicator. Even the mouthbreathers at CPUSA have seen party growth. Hopefully people will start up some non-shit parties soon because the fucking Trotskyist SEP is the best we've got right now.

If this election taught you anything, it's that the public at large doesn't give a fuck about American party politics. They didn't vote for the Republican party, they voted for Trump. If anything, this has shown that someone that speaks to their direct interests - even a bumbling moron - is going to capture their attention and earn their votes, not because of party affiliation or demographic studies or whatever the fuck, but because he's talking about shit they care about.

If anything, this is good for the left - it shows that what Americans care about it solutions to their problems and people who promise them. When Trump's solutions fail and he pulls an Obama on his supporters, that'll leave a natural opening since literally every other alternative has been discredited.

Better than an alienating Stalinist bureaucracy.
Yeah, and there's genuine fascist too bud.

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So? What's the point of persistent deceiving of public?

Democrats will not be taken seriously. This means more attention to the real Left.

We need a populist dictator instead?

Hello, Holla Forums

This is a leftist board.
If you would have been here before and taken the time to lurk, you would have known that we're not social liberal and nor do we consider social liberalism to be leftist.

This election had nothing to do with us.

Most here do not even believe in the partaking of bourgeois politics.

I'm no Trump supporter friend, but we need to abandon the USSR. We need a new left. No shitty socdem left, no authoritarian ML sects that rely on Soviet nostalgia.

Word.

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Forget history?

Mind you, Bolsheviks did not "abandon" French commune despite it's utter failure and thoroughly Anarchist character. But that's evil authoritarian ML sect for you.

Who are "we"? Show me this "new" Left.

You don't have to "forget" it to reproach it.

I don't care what the Bolsheviks did.

The non-idpol left much craft it.

Yes. You don't know what Bolsheviks did nor do you want to know, but you feel the need to reproach them. And yet, the cultist here is me.

And until that happens we must sit tight and work for the porky.

Much wow.

Aye. Something more on the libertarian socialist side.

Is this an euphemism for AnCap?

Is Luxemburgism Ancapism now? Wow!

When I made that post, I wasn't referring to everyone on Holla Forums, just the salty faggots that I quoted.
If you supported Trump or were at least neutral to him before this turnout, then feel free to enjoy the liberal salt/suicides as well.

When did Luxemburgism become libertarian?

Just so that we are 100% clear on our dear Rosa:

> In the first place, only the nationalization of the large landed estates, as the technically most advanced and most concentrated means and methods of agrarian production, can serve as the point of departure for the socialist mode of production on the land. Of course, it is not necessary to take away from the small peasant his parcel of land, and we can with confidence leave him to be won over voluntarily by the superior advantages first of union in cooperation and then finally of inclusion in the general socialized economy as a whole. Still, every socialist economic reform on the land must obviously begin with large and medium land-ownership. Here the property right must first of all be turned over to the nation, or to the state, which, with a socialist government, amounts to the same thing; for it is this alone which affords the possibility of organizing agricultural production in accord with the requirements of interrelated, large-scale socialist production.

Her problems with comrade Lenin was that he did not immediately begin collectivization. Even Stalin would've been too Bourgeois for her, should she lived to see it: Soviet kolkhozs were still property of peasants, rather than the state.

HAHAHA
WRONG SIDE
OF
HISTORY

That was one of her grievances. She also disagreed on his national question libcom.org/library/nationalities-question-in-the-russian-revolution-luxemburg

and Lenins suppression of the constituent assemblies marxists.org/archive/luxemburg/1918/russian-revolution/ch04.htm

But yes, Luxemburgism is considered to be a variation of Libertarian Marxism.

I thought cooperation with SocDem was considered a mistake - after Rosa got killed.

Either way, it's Libertarian Socialism and the initial post was by anarkitty. So I find it unlikely that it's Luxemburgism that was implied.

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Who? I was telling supporters of both candidates to suicide.

Long enough to know you don't all need gulaged ;)

That american election thread was a mistake. THERE IS NO POINT IN BUERGOIS POLITICS, WHEN WILL YOU LEARN IT?

Failures of Bernie, and sure failure of Corbin will finally show you that there is absolutely nothing that Socdems or Demsocs can do for the cause.

Corbyn will be BTFO sadly. It's his nuclear stance that makes him unelectable in the UK though, not his ideas on renationalisation.

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Nigger, I didn't even fucking vote.

Americans are truly the cancer of chan culture.

You forgot Tsipras.

On the other hand, without that containment thread, the whole board would have been even shittier.

So, you refuse the minimal political power you have. How is that violent revolution going, or are you still stuck in the planning phase?

Stay mad, yuropoor. All your commie pals vehemently support the capitalist oligarchy just because they get some brown dick down their throats.

How long until Holla Forums realizes their savior is just another boring bourgeoisie Republican with little actual political power and even less idea what to do with it, controlled by his VP and a Republican-controlled Congress? Bush 3.0: this time with temper issues.

We here on Holla Forums were fucked either way. We're probably more fucked in the short term with Trump, but we lost this election in June. We're just gonna bunker down and see how Bernie capitalizes on the fracturing Democratic party. A Trump win is probably better for him that way because they will be reeling and seeking a path to victory in 2018 and 2020.

First, you claim to be one of them.
Then, you gain their trust.
Finally, you convert them to your cause.

ishygddt

Holla Forums here. I'd settle for a reset of relations with Russia, staying out of Syria, fixing migration and the chaos this throws the neo-liberal order into.

Eh, don't set up your hopes high on this one.
The others are likely though

Who are "we"? Berniecrats were laughed at here long before that point.

The only election we'll ever get will be the one where we'll vote with guns.

Military industry will keep on keeping on. Syria or not, there will be another war anyway.

I never said the military-industrial complex won't be trying to get US into more wars, I was specifically talking about fighting against Assad. It's not like the war machine can't wait a few years or so

Reminder that this was Clinton's strategy.

And it backfired on her. Nothing could be more kek worthy than this.

Too bad wikileaks threw wrenches into the democrat machine, oops :^)

Fuck off tankie. Sandernistas were just as valid and influential a leftist group here as you were, if not more so. And will probably continue to be.

It will never cease to make me laugh that so many people earnestly bought into conspiracy theories from Wikileaks because Podesta or Stratfor received an unsolicited email from a random person babbling about how Clinton did this or that. That was then held up as incontrovertible proof that Clinton did whatever and her employees openly discussed it in their private emails.

It would be hilarious if the reason Cunton lost is because of that shitty "art" that made her look like Reptilian Illuminati.

Sure as hell lost her some Hispanic votes.

TODAYS THE DAY COMMIE

"SOCIALISTS" BTFO
HILLARY KIKE LOSES

GOOD GAME LEFTEST FAGGOTS

They are not "leftist".

Rape train has no brakes. Well, there is still F-35. I thought that joke was long over, but it is still going on.

Either way, it's not like Obama didn't promise to pull out of everywhere, close down Guantanamo, etc.

What are you on about again?

Fuck off tripfag tankie. You aren't the gatekeeper of leftism.

It's a Holla Forumsyp who got lost on his way to reddit/tumblr.

Sanders is SocDem. And SocDem have been considered centrist by everyone since forever.

Trying to cover your butthurt is a lot more satisfying.

lol

Do you think Bernie would've turned into a second Obama if he had won?

No. He just wouldn't have really been able to affect much change, possibly disappointing his supporters. Bernie's 30 year voting record, ignoring his entire socialist youth, is basically spotless. There is little reason to suspect he would have continued being anyone but who he has been his entire life as President Sanders.

Hello there fraulein.

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Of course. You can't fight against the system. Which is why you need Vanguard - your own system. Best case scenario, he'd became another JFK, but I'm betting on him collaborating with the Capitalists.

I see more laughing at people being angry over Cunton losing tbh

Why do you guys think we're the liberal board and not you? You are.

They are in denial.

Also, I got banned on Holla Forums.

No surprises there.

We have no political power, no matter how "minimal".

Not a pedo though I self insert as the little boy in shota, I just have no ill will towards them.