RIP Yugoslavia

If you need to ask this then you have no knowledge about the region.
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italian,german,slav mix
No.
Just Slav. Also Catholic.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slovenes
In total 39-36% of 399-458 sampled Slovenian males belong to Y-DNA Haplogroup R1a, more frequent than in South Slavic peoples, constituting 41% in the capital region and greater in some regions. Slovenian population displays close genetic affiliations with West Slavic populations. The homogenous genetic strata of the West Slavic populations and the Slovenian population suggest the existence of a common ancestral Slavic population in central European region.[31] The M458 branch constitutes 4%, while the dominant clade is Z280, specifically its R1a-CTS3402 clade, the same as that of their Slavic and not Slavic neighbours.[32] The Z92 branch of Z280 which is significant among East Slavs is recorded as completely absent among Slovenes, Hungarians and Austrians.[33]

Of 100 sampled Slovenians, 18% belong to R1b, of which 8% of R1b belongs to the P312 branch, 6% to the eastern and 4% to U106.[34] The Dinaric-North (DYS448- 20) haplotypes of I2a1b are with overwhelming higher frequency than Dinaric-South(DYS448- 19) even in regions with high frequency.

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Any Serbs, Croats, Bosnians, Macedonians here?
We make this a little yu/pol/?

What the fucking fuck! I was banned for almost a month for making an almost identical thread except my thread involved William Pierce. I was accused by someone of "shilling for William Pierce." This idiot even thought that William Pierce was still alive.

Anyway, here is a video that everyone unfamiliar with Yugoslavia must watch. I am not kidding. Watch the whole thing if you have not already.

Also, my thread got flooded with shills almost immediately, following a few particularly insightful early posts. After completely derailing and shilling up the thread, it was shut down by our glorious mods.

Yeah man I feel you.
mods are below any level these days

Is there any good, jew-free literature on this subject?

The man was very smart. With him and Bowden, gotta say, it's awful that those bright sparks burned out so soon.

Communism, you dumb nigger. The only reason the country lasted as long as it did was because Tito was getting funded by the west, to act as some kind of buffer against the USSR.

It fell apart due to cultural differences, lack of food, high inflation and serbs driving all of slovenia's machines and tools into serbia under pretense of "industrializing".

Long story short:
Serbs got greedy, slovens didn't like that.
The rest is history.

Whole attack was a charade that still kept commies in power. It changed nothing overall.

Slovenes - Rich slavs, formerly under austria
Croats - Poor slavs, formerly under austria
Serbs - Violent slavs, formerly removing kebabs

Don't talk shit, user. You barely had a few hunting rifles against an army with tanks, artillery, planes etc. They pulled back because they didn't want to fight you.

The Balkans were fucked and Eastern Europe de-industrialised for the EU. The globalist kikes are always behind the misery.

Pretty much this. Divide and Conquer tactics was used on Yugoslavia. All differences between people of Yugoslavia were further polarized between them. Differences on religious and national level were exploited to create conflict. Conflict was fueled by use of propaganda via (((MSM))). Fake Genocides were used to further agitate hatred and war. It is a typical text-book example on how to use and execute perfect divide&conquer tactics.

Pretty much this. Divide and Conquer tactics was used on Yugoslavia. All differences between people of Yugoslavia were further polarized between them. Differences on religious and national level were exploited to create conflict. Conflict was fueled by use of propaganda via (((MSM))). Fake Genocides were used to further agitate hatred and war. It is a typical text-book example on how to use and execute perfect divide&conquer tactics.

Only half of this is true.
While division may have benefited west, after death of tito, there was not a single soul able to hold this clusterfuck together.

Serbs getting the majority of money, basically draining slovenia of resources was one of the reasons for the downfall.
I am glad it happened, croatia is worse than slovenia and serbs are non existent as a nation today.
They would have dragged all of us down.
t.Slov

Like when that reporter interviewed that (naturally) malnourished man inside a barbed wire pen for chickens and other animals to make it seem like they were caged away in some sort of concentration camp.

Hungary, Poland and other countries are doing what they are doing now because they know very well what awaits for them if they fall like we did.

all the movements were separatist not nationalist
there were ethnic struggles based on religion between the same ethnicities instead of fighting a long ideological war to get the foreign religions out they slaughtered brothers

Kingdom of Yugoslavia Best Yugoslavia

Bosnia should be divided between Serbia and Croatia, Kosovo je Srbija, and idek about FYROM it's a clusterfuck of Bulgarians and Albanians that was historically Serbia and has a Greek name

They also got a taste of (((soviet))) integration.

Have you never done your own research?

Economic problems.
IMF took control of the country's economy in the 80', caused 30% unemployment, massive inflation, 80% of companies bust.
Majority of it was in Serbia, Croatia and Bosnia since all the newly built heavy industry went bust.
The nationalistic tensions were just a consequence of that.

The US and the Saudis with the current migrant crisis that gave them two fine muslim stops on the way to Germany. Bosnia and Kosovo.
Heroin from Afganistan is also smuggled into Europe through Kosovo.

Implosion of Yugoslavia had a place in the greater geopolitical scheme.

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Too bad slavs slaughtered slavs. They should have united and removed all the kebab from the region instead.

As far as I know people were still salty at each other for WW2 because the croats supported ustaša and killed some bosniaks and serbs.Josip Broz Tito did a good job at keeping these tensions low but after his death the country became unstable and some of this anger just turned into violence in the balkan wars.

Worse. If I remember correctly, the wire fence was around a tiny electrical substation so they decided to film from the inside. 110% pure propaganda.

No.

They got a Pulitzer for that story, btw

It changed quite alot.
Slovenia became an independent country, while rest of Yugoslavia descended into chaos and one of the most bloodiest wars in recent history.

(((Pulitzer)))

Why am I not surprised.

We all know now. Its why everyone backlashed at Ukraine so much.

We are only independed from chaos. Not successful in any aspect.

Please do not spread disinformation.
We were severely disadvantaged against JNA in terms of arsenal but not without guns. Teritorialna Obramba used to stash JNA guns used on military drills and put them in safehouses and bunkers and secret warehouses around Slovenija systematically for around 1.5 year before the war erupted. Also, after we removed JNA and sent them packing (again completely BTFO) we took their military bases with all the guns and started selling it to Croats.
balkaninsight.com/en/article/arm-smuggling-in-the-name-of-state/1452/2

We need to do it again. This time EU.

because that was thirty fuckin' years ago

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Doesn't matter. Such a stupid comment, I can't believe I am responding to this shill garbage. You cannot forget history. To understand what is happening in the present, it is crucial to study and know history.

This.
You can't mix different cultures.

What is happening to Europe then?
We can create absolutely clear etno-states like Japan. But it doesn't suit the (((global establishment.)))

Stop bullshitting yourself. Slovenia lost Carinthia, Istria, Gorizia and Trieste for 'peace'. This is the only reason why everyone left Slovenia alone… Slovenia gave everything in return.

I see this shit all the time. The natives often know less than the distant objective observers. How many tanks did they stash under the mattress?

You should carefully examine every story that sounds too good and, more importantly, feels good. That's how they manipulate you. Being outnumbered 20:1 and having only rifles against tanks, planes, helicopters, rocket launchers etc. is not a position where you can "kick their ass". It's not a movie.

I'm sure you're brave people and you would have switched to effective guerilla tactics but they could have fucked you up if they wanted. It was a good move since the (((NATO))) got involved in other areas later.

I disagree. Whatever the truth of the matter, Bosniaks trully believe that they're of a different race or culture or ethnicity than Serbs. Plus there is the matter of different religions. So while I agree that Herzgovinia should go to Serbia and Croatia should get the south, the core Bosniak regions should rule themselves.

You are talking about ww2.
We are talking about Yugoslavia.

You will not lecture me on something I've experienced. Do I make myself perfectly clear?

It was a mess that wasn't working. Not to say that some big players didn't want to destabilize it further to buy up all the things that are worth something (just look who owns the mines and telecommunications there today)

The JNA had bases all over Yugoslavia, they already have troops spread around.

Pozdrav

I just did. You can't think straight because you're too close and the fairy-tale feels good. It's as simple as that.

You experienced what they wanted you to experience. You're a blinded shill and can't see the bigger picture.

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Ustaša did nothing wrong!

Slovenia is German clay

Serbia, pardon Yugoslav government thought it is easier to let the Slovens go and get the clay they really wanted, in Croatia. That is when they attacked the Croats and the civil war really started.

I don't think they attacked you per se but that's water under the bridge anyway. White Europe must unite now or we're fucked.

Yeah, but it is important not to forget, the war didn't start against the smelly rape-babies of the Turk. They were collateral damage. The international “community” didn't start to become interested until some Turk got hurt. I think it is telling that a complete Croatian (Catholic) city could have been obliterated and everybody was like “it's bad but get over it”. When a Muslim city, well the Muslim half was under siege, everybody was “the horror, it's like the holocaust, somebody has to do something”, the French foreign Legion came, British paras, the Dutch, US planes were circling, the full monty.
It was all a pretext to install a Muslim bridge head in Europe. Not only on the Balkan, but in Switzerland, Germany and Sweden by Albanian “war refugees”. War refugees who were most famous for their crime network, drug dealing and pimping, slave trading. Sweden Yes started in the 90's.

idk if you made that pic, but the hexagon inside the Seal of Solomon could be overlayed perfectly on the pole of saturn. you don't need to fit the star inside the hexagon.

There's no point in fighting.
Serbs controlled the government through Milosevic, everyone else saw the writing on the wall and wanted independence.
Foreign jews and jihadists took advantage of this.
If anything, the problem with the balkans is that the banker jews keep preying upon it when slavs just want to be left alone.

I doubt Tito even would've been put it power if there wasn't a common threat.
In addition i have to point out that for all the ethnic hatred, a Slovenian was in charge for years. Serbs have to admit Slovenes are primo people thanks to their relative distance from the turks, and their proximity to italy.

No more brothers wars, it only helps (((them)))

Can you find a better image? All I have at the moment is pic related.

Exactly.

Tito this Tito that.
What is always overlooked is that Tito was a extremly brutal communist dictator. Equal to Stalin in his ruthlessness.
One reason why that is not in the public consciousness is, Tito was paid and supported by Britain and the USA already in the war. So press in the west didn't report about his murders. People in Yugoslavia, the old were intimidated and the young did know only western sponsored Yugoslavia. Party propaganda and foreign, western press were united in the praise of Tito. People were proud about their influential head of state. Tito died, the cold war ended, the West had no reason to sponsor Yugoslavia, loans had to repaid. New and old problems surfaced, cultural fault lines became again visible. Did you know that Sarajevo looked like Kabul until the Austrians marched in, just hundred years ago? Communism painted that over, but surprise like in the Soviet-Union, Islam was reinstalled with a little bit help from Saudi-Arabia and the USA.

OC incoming.

Yeah i agree. The issue though is that the balkans are mostly tribal still. the plemes don't really care one way or the other how the government operates as long as they aren't fucked with.

What would work? I doubt slavs even know.

Saved.

Pretty much this, except that during the three or so generations that Jugoslavij was together the anchor-enclaves grew in size, changing the demographics in a number of regions. In some regions the people in the anchor-enclaves actually outnumbered the locals. A bit like the spics in California.

It's a questions of ego.
Serbs think they symbolize, are the “Yugoslav”. The others are just the lip spittle sucker of foreigners, quislings. Serbia deserve to rule, but is unfairly picked up, is chastised for defending Europe and Christianity.
Croats don't want to be bossed around, even less so by the “fuck toy” of the Turk, think they always stood on the right side of history and civilization against the Orientals that could at times include the Orthodox Christians.
That is an exaggeration, but you get the drift.

Why don't get along?
I think there are no real problems between individual Serbs or Croats in daily life. The practical cultural differences are small. They use different alphabets and religion, but one is used to such a situation since centuries. Were it get's difficult is if one thinks the other takes advantages of the other, the “clan” identity is in peril. It's like an old couple still living together but the love is gone long time ago.

Moslems? Can you trust them even if they are blood from our blood? That sudden jihadism after decades of socialist kumbaya “they really are not different from us”. The realization, they plotted in secret with the “Muslim brotherhood” long before the civil war when still the “socialist love fest” ruled, brotherhood of Slavs. Of course they imported Mujahedin from the most filthy places and married their sisters to them.

Don't forget about all the guns the Saudis took from the Bosnaks at the end of the war too.

Don't try to make bad blood with those who outright refused to actually fight you when told to.

It all started when 1848 rolled around and the top shabbos goys in A-H discovered that slavs will be the death of them.
This was the same strategy as the Brits used in Ireland.
The interwar state reflected this with the breakup of Croatia into 3 banovinas. You got Ustase.
Communists wanted to correct that and break the power of Serbia by dividing it into 3 states within(Serbia, Kosovo, Vojvodina) and 3 states on the outside (Montenegro, Serbia and Bosnia).
As a consequence, Serbia was outvoted most of the time by the rest of the Republics. You got Milosevic as a consequence.
Once Slovenes as the chief moderators between the two opposing blocks got out, war erupted.

The embedded documentary Weight of Chains should answer your questions OP. It's a really good watch so make sure to grab some popcorn and a small towel to wipe away your rage tears afterwards.

I remember this one. Was a big hit during the war.

Was the first “color revolution” in central Europe

So Russia helped out AH, same Russia that pushed Pan-Slavism.

The Brits started “color revolutions” during Napoleonic war in South America by heir agent Simon Bolivar. Check who paid him. BTW the Brits started Basque nationalism as well.

That moved to Italy, Garibaldi the pal of Bolivar, as well paid by the Brits. From Italy it spread to Hungary.
All notable participants were masons, including the head of the house of Savoy.

The ploy is always the same, “the little people” were told that $dominant_group were suppressing them and playing on envy, they could be so much bigger if they would become independent, overthrow $dominant_group. “Little people” miscalculate the contribution of $dominant_group for their success. Result, little people lick the boots of different $dominant group, they need now because former $dominat_group is pissed.
To make that clear, I don't think the Serbs were $dominant_group, all of Yugoslavia was assembly of little people under new foreign management. The civil war didn't change the situation that much, except, now we have a jihadi base on the door steps.

Because they didn't wanted to be under Serb rule in Greater Serbia that Yugoslavia was going to be transformed.

Nationalist.

USA and Soros wanted to keep Yugoslavia intact. If there is someone to blame for breakup of Yugoslavia it was Tito and later Milosevic and his people.

The video is shit.

It sings praises to yugoslavia, but it was not as good. Yugoslavia was kept afloat by money injections from USSR and USA.

The makers seems heavily biased for socialism/communism and against christianity. I notices that it doesn't mention any questionable or evil deeds made by communist.

FYI - serbians colonized parts of croatia and pressured croats out, making areas of high Serb concetration, then wanting to split.
Now imagine if millions of afghanistani enter your country and focus specific areas, then want to declare independence. It's bullshit.

How in the fuck did they know that without telescopes? Or did that just happen to coincide with a geometric principle?

They were nationalistic revolutions.
The color ones are coups.

They had more than 1/3 of people in Yugoslavia yet had the same number of votes as Macedonia. No vonder why they wanted the old one back.
Which foreign managment? Yes, if you mean IMF in the 80' but no if you mean through the whole deal. tito was notorious for playing the West and the East against each other.

telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/07/26/eu-court-rejects-open-door-policy-upholds-right-member-states/

Is Croatia ready to put some enrichment into their camps?

They were always independent states. Someone thought it was a good idea to put a bunch of distinct ethnic groups into one country. It failed violently.

See "the arab spring".

Most revolts are funded by proxy by other nations.

That may be so, but every healthy race wants to rule their own lands.

Sometimes they work it out. Sometimes it fails.

This one failed specifically by the intervention of competing states and a failing economic agenda.

>I'm sure you're brave people and you would have switched to effective guerilla tactics but they could have fucked you up if they wanted. It was a good move since the (((NATO))) got involved in other areas later.
Stop talking about shit you know nothing about

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Communism happened. /thread

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Pozdrav!

Thats how Albanians took Kosovo from Serbia.

I fully support Serbs in taking it back.
Kosovo = Srbija

Remember the time when Austria-Hungary included the Serbs and WWI happened? :p

Certain (((elements))) are very afraid of Pierce

Yep, we should make yu/pol/ if enough people gather. Maybe we can start memeing the Balkans onto the right path.

It was a CIA OP,

Classic divide and conquer. Destroying Yugoslavia opens up easier passage of Albania's main export into Europe (Drugs, Human/Organ Trafficking) through Kosovo, look up the Yellow House, Albo's kidnapping Christians for Sex/Slave trade & Organ Harvesting. This makes it a lot easier to establish Albanian corridors through the Balkans which helps in importing Jihadists into Europe, just like Bosnia.

On top of all that, the entirety of Yugoslavia had an abysmally low National Debt, now smaller countries like Macedonia/Slovenia have substantially larger debts than Yugoslavia did, whichever way you look at it (per capita, adjusted for inflation/ as part of GDP etc).

Classic Jewish fuckery OP.

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This. There was communist terror going on. And killings. A whole lot of killings. But you never hear about those.

Serbia wanted to take parts of Croatia for themselves, using the "krajina region" (from which croats were dispalaced until Serbs became majority) as an excuse for war.

You mean, rip Austrian-Hungarian Monarchy 2.0?

Yeah. No kidding. This happened yesterday.
The nerve of these Kikes. It just boggles the mind.

No, because never happened

That would be the European Union

(((Jewgoslavia)))
Kingdom of Serbia was better before that ever happened. Forget Jewgoslavia. Embrace Greater Serbia.

Neither Austria or Hungary were part of Yugoslavia. Yugoslavia was run by the Serbs. Austria and Hungary were subject states of the Soviet Union at the time.

user, please read a history book about why the two thing fall apart!

Not specific of 1848:
If one wants to understand why the Balkans are so shit, one has to know the near endless number of traitors, who would sell out for their personal gain. Which would be bad enough, but worse is that those selfish traitors are made heroes in misguided nationalist history (re-) writing.

Of course not. But to label color revolutions nationalist is false. They are quasi-nationalistic, especially becouse the first color revolution was the communist one.
Why are they using colors?
They have no meaning in itself . What does the Orange revolution mean in Ukraine? Or the Green revolution in Iran ? Fighting for the color orange? Oh, it's the color of the party's flag. Meaningless.
The purpose of a color revolution is to take the nationalist sentiment as fuel but not as a nationalistic symbol that is used to bring the people together since it's too vague for the people to identify with after the revolution. So they become malleable for a new definition after the nationalistic fervor has subsided.
Which means that all the color revolutions are dreamt up by the globalists as transparent carrots to manipulate nationalists with in disinfected gloves.

It's the same with "freedom", "democracy" and "racism" but for a cultural cause. The globalists have human manipulation studied down to a t.

Kaj mislite o moderatorjevem odnosu do misije Defend Europe?

yugo was meant to be kill since the 80s because its was simpler to D&C nations than to try to prserve some big multiethnic elephant to transition into capitalism and NATO.

today croatia has more IMF debt than yugo had under tito. meanwhile politicians keep selling out whats left of national property to foregeiners.

also Milošević and Kučan were having talks on slovenian seccession as early as the mid-80s.
the war in slovenia was a scheme to just ramp up all JNA units on the north where croatia was and to go with the agreement that Slovenia will just stay out of the war down there if serbia lets it go.
thats why there was so much rumble when Janša started selling weapons to croatians when Kučan promised Milošević that wont happen.
ofcourse to everyone else it just looked like an incredebly quick victory and it was good propaganda.
meanwhile you had 2 camps in Slovenia, the old party elite that wanted to preserve the power and the new EU elite like Janša that was suppost to lead with germany blessing. but when independance came in 91 they had o share the seat and thats how its been till today.