You can blame the prequels for a ton of stuff, in fact, il list some reasons right here:
But you know what? In terms of idea, and scope and AMBITION they outstrip just about every blockbuster-esque movie I have seen made so far. It was a True idea of a subversion of a classic heroes trope in the way that TLJ isn't. Anakin was the anti-Luke: Given everything from birth, with FATE literally bending to his will. In a sense, it was about characters like Korra or Rey, and how they would end up being whiny brats, and no amount of power compensates for struggle and good character. And it showed a way that Jedi could be flawed, and cause their own downfall through arrogance and being disconnected from regular people. Whilst also still making them sympathetic characters, that one could be sad to see go.
I got the poetry George. It took me literally years to get it, but I got it. I wish I could see the alternate reality where you got people to support and enhance your good ideas and spark, so that it didn't take years to understand what you where going for.. Then maybe the world today would be different.
The Prequels are kino, but not because they just looked pretty. But because on some level they where deeply thought out and executed on an interesting topic in an interesting way, mired by tragically bad execution.
Kayden Jones
That's really been what non-prequel hatets have been saying. It's only over here that people try to defend those negative points to say they are pure kino regardless. The bad dialouge, poor execution etc, aren't as bad as people made it out to be. Once you get over that, you can appreciate the movies well for what they portray.
Ayden Evans
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Kevin Roberts
The prequels were shit. The fact that the sequels are also shit doesn't change that.
Josiah Cook
The prequels were better than the OT.
Grayson White
lol no
Levi Sanchez
>>>/leddit/
Hudson Jenkins
lol this mad
Anthony Walker
That's another thing, everything in the new movies sound like they were named by someone who thinks Star Wars is dumb shit for kids. There's a certain elegance in the originals and the prequels that can't be found in the sequels.
Colton Peterson
I made that grid and I unironically like TLJ as much as the prequels
Grayson King
"elegance"?
Asher Wright
Porg
Robert Brooks
There were some silly ones but every name in disney SW either is tryhard or not trying at all. The most memorable name conceived must be Sheev and that's because it sounds so silly for the ultimate evil of the whole saga and it's a meme. Also it is of a pre existing character. Rey, finn, poe, Kylo Ren, Snoke. It's all dumb. There's star wars name generators which can randomize better star wars names.
Jayden Watson
mhmm
Christopher Long
How is it a subvertion when it's a classic tragedy story mixing the stories between Lucifer and Achilles?
Adam Powell
And the dialogue wasn't bad. It's more in the vein of classic type of dialogue where less is more. Take the "I hate sand"-line as the most famous example. It tells us multiple things, but if you want to make a point and want to be "smart" on the internet you pretend to be a fucking retard and say it doesn't indicate how Anakin's current state of mind was at the time (and the foreshadowing of his downfall).
Alexander Price
Lmao the dialogue is bad in aotc
Brayden Campbell
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Lucas Stewart
Nah it's shitty film wise faggot
Luis Gonzalez
To be fair…
Hunter Bell
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Hunter Sanders
does anyone ever talk about how this is over choreographed as fuck? Ben just goes and does a damn spin for no reason out of nowhere.
Parker Bennett
Because the OT is from my childhood, and perfect.
Carson Nguyen
But Lucas totally had the story all planned out from the get go right prequel cucks?
Parker Baker
why did he do it
Cooper Gutierrez
He was fresh out of "yo momma" jokes.
Nathan Martin
Who even talks like that? What the fuck?
Blake Edwards
My Dad. He used to say that on Christmas Eve before we went and saw my maternal grandparents. He didn’t say Mos Eisley.
Tyler Robinson
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Isaiah King
Prequels were just commercials for merchandise. That off feeling that everything looks fake? It's the sensation of looking at a toy.
Prequelposting started as bait by disney marketers: 'look at the idiots liking the prequels now, only you great hipsters know better!!'. But of course user can't help but roll in poop whenever theres some, and here we are now.
Jason Parker
Because that was never a thing in the original trilogy. The Ewoks weren't created to sell teddy bears. Space Balls wasn't making jokes about how heavily merchandised Star Wars was before the prequels existed. That's late 90's-early 00's CGI, you genius.
Jace Young
Obi-Wan speaks the truth. He doesn't need to add humor or effect to his words, to impress themselves or his opponent. But you capeshit cancer will never get this.
Oliver Hernandez
They weren't.
In fact George Lucas couldn't find any toy company that would manufacture them since Star Wars toys only sold to boys and boys wouldn't buy teddy bears.
t. read the making of return of the jedi
Lincoln Reed
Then what's this?
Nicholas Hughes
He was definitely trying to be witty.
Jaxon Gonzalez
Bravo, you now realize why any cinephile treats star wars fans as retarded manchildren! And in the 70s, luna park movies made to sell toys were justly treated as food for retards.
Feminists love to taunt you saying, grow up already. Of course they want you to grow into a beta orbiter and that's wrong, but remember you actually have to grow up for real eventually.
Elijah Ramirez
I don't think there's necessarily anything wrong with merchandising, so long as it doesn't have a negative impact on the film (which Ewoks might have). You create a space ship design that's so cool every kid wants to have it, and that's bad somehow?
Landon Peterson
There was only a limited run of them and Lucas had to force Kenner to produce those, they sold poorly.
Robert Walker
So is the problem that there was an attempt at merchandising, or that it was successful?
Robert Gonzalez
hurr durr guys we totally don't have any toys we can make out of this shitty spaze franchise!!! I mean, It's been to mobies for pete's sake. like wtf!?!?
Oliver Barnes
Boys were going crazy for the action figures, but girls not so much. Seems like they got greedy and made a grab for that audience, just like they're doing with Porgs now.
Cooper Bennett
1. But pic related is what happens when you design characters so that kids want their toys. It's the merchandise first philosophy.
2. Lucas wasn't the only one responsible for the costumes, models and ships of the OT. It's like saying Syd Mead's designs in Blade Runner were all work from Ridley Scott but nu-geeks probably believe this.
Owen Diaz
Fix your site Jim.
Xavier Wright
He made the Ewoks because he thought it didn't make sense for a planet of Wookies to be primitive when Chewbacca was shown to be able to pilot a space ship.
In the original bloated script for the first Star Wars the wookies help attack the Death Star and he worked that back in for Return of the Jedi.
Andrew Gonzalez
There's literally nothing wrong with Boss Nash. Brian Blessed hamming it up. What's not to like?
Christian Baker
You get something that looks like shit and will never sell when you try to cater to people to sell toys?
or option b. and the design doesn't look like shit at all, but then you lose your whole argument…
Samuel Carter
I don't think there's anything wrong with the Gungan designs. I also think people might exaggerate just how bad Jarjar is as a character, but let's not get into that.
Ryder Brown
There's everything wrong with it. When ep I came out and McDonalds had cheap SW figurines in their kiddie boxes, all the kids prayed that they won't get JarJar. Kids hated this swamp nigger.
Ethan Flores
And now they're sorry. APOLOGIZE
David Hill
You're linking the design to Jar Jar as a character. There's nothing wrong with the design. It's an aquatic alien that looks like an aquatic alien.
Juan Robinson
He made the movies and merchandise for kids. Kids hated the design choices and they didn't care much about distinction between JarJar and other gungans, they all look like the shitty Ice Age sloth. George simply lost touch with his precious kiddie audience.
Dylan Martin
Who are these kids? I was a kid. I thought it was cool. All of my friends thought it was cool. Maybe Jar Jar wasn't our favourite character, but none of us were screeching about it like all of the thirty-something spergs.
Adrian Gutierrez
Most of the early 90s born kids in my neighborhood. There was a pokemon craze at that time. Phantom Menace came out only a year after the 2000 pokemon movie, this is the kind of shit kids loved back then.
Grayson Gutierrez
Most of the early 90s born kids in my neighborhood. There was a pokemon craze at that time and George lost the war with gooks. Phantom Menace came out only a year after the 2000 pokemon movie, this is the kind of shit kids loved back then.
Bentley Jackson
Fix your fucking site codemonkey
Blake Adams
Why is he calling him Darth like that's his first name?
Julian Clark
Han was bullshitting there, you can see Obi-Wan grin pretty smugly right after Han said that.
Brayden Williams
Kids generally like more than one thing.
Kevin James
Go back to fucking Holla Forums. The prequels are great but this entire post is so fucking embarrassing. you watch Redlettermedia you watch cartoons and browse Holla Forums stop replying to these retards. It's really easy to tell which posters are from Holla Forums wake the fuck up.
William Lee
what does the 'I hate sand' line tell us about Anakin's mental state?
Mason Phillips
an underlying sense of angst and resentment due to his harsh upbringing? A feeling of inferiority and undeserving of the situation he now finds himself in?
Colton Gray
In the face of mindless Disney flicks, Prekino takes a refined form.
Joshua Parker
I think he just doesn't like sand dude
David Sanchez
But WHY doesn't he like sand?
Anthony Smith
Because he wanted to fuck his mother but the tusken ragheads have put sand in her vag.
Logan Clark
I gotta lol at Lucas here. You can get a nigger to fly a fighter plane (I think). Their own society can still be primitive.
Chase Cox
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Joseph Campbell
No, I didn't read the EU novel that desperately scrabbled to explain a poorly written line.
Brayden Brown
Just watch the ANH bluray with the commentary track on, pleb.
Nolan Allen
No. Explain in the film I watch or fuck off.
Henry Evans
No. They made a mistake.
Alexander Fisher
It's not really important, Star Wars is science fantasy. You don't get to hear how shields and stuff work either. The concept is pretty simple though, you can only go so fast through space. The issue then becomes finding the shortest safe route between two points. That's how the tiny Falcon can outrun even big imperial star destroyers. Now you actually got this info more or less when Han explained why they couldn't just go sanic fast at once when they had imperials up their butts, you just didn't pay attention since it served the plot.
John Phillips
I took Obi Wan's reaction to that claim as incredulousness. If the Falcon made that run it was because Han was willing to take riskier routes. He's not the only one with a small ship.
Henry Ward
The size of the ship doesn't matter. It's the computer calculations that makes it "fast", or rather travel less distance.
Colton Moore
Han is talking bollocks. His ship is not able to outrun Star Destroyers, as seen several times in the movies. He's just a good enough pilot to evade them until he can make the jump. His actual speed through hyperspace in that scenario has no significance since they don't know where he's going.
Hudson Walker
BRAVO
Isaiah Russell
but he has lightning reflexs of cheetah that can manually drop the falcon out of hyperspace under starkiller bases defense shield
Joshua Flores
well I hope it's at least in the same solar system or that's one long fucking trip
Ian Cooper
Agreed.
Lincoln Gray
The prequels were okay when they weren't trying so hard to "fix" the originals because Lucas couldn't get over how his vision wasn't 100% perfect the first time around. And despite the awkward moments, the fact Darth Vader had such a presence to him meant it was easy to enjoy Anakin's character, despite whatever shit it had on top.