Basic Universal Income is starting in Obama's birthplace

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Hawaii first state to declare everyone deserves basic financial security; begins eval of universal basic income

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How do we call capitalism with universal basic income? Capimunism?

It's just capitalism. Capitalism has nothing to do with whether you have welfare or not, it's about who owns the means of production and it's an outdated term.

I did the napkin math on this one. It cannot work.

How?

Neither can the locals.

Just a lost leftyfaggot.

Wow. Niggers spending money they don't have on communism. I'm shocked.
NOT SHOCKED AT ALL

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Hawaii needs another plague.

Exactly wyte boi. This plan is starting in Hawaii because ONLY minorities should receive the gibs. Hawaii is small, and has limited space AND it's hard to get to so minorities on the mainland will not be able to zerg rush for the gibs and collapse the program with no survivors. They know what they are doing with this scam, but it can only work if the Fed steps in and subsidizes it on a trial basis. Now go to work and pay for those Hawaiians you cis shits!

THIRD POSITION

Hawaii still has no reason to remain a state.

You know who else lives on hawai.
Zuckerberg
You know who shilled for universal income?

Yeah running the numbers on this one. So the total state expenditures on public assistance and medicaid in Hawaii are only about 15.7% of the total budget, clocking in at roughly 2.16 billion dollars.

If these programs were uniformly scrapped the money could be distributed between all citizens of the state for a whopping $1512 annually. That's less than one month's rent in low-cost housing in Hawaii because it's Hawaii. If the government built a fucking archaeology the size of Honolulu and charged $300 a month for rooming inside it it'd still not last the year.

The amount of money you would need to live in average housing in Hawaii for a year i in the realm of 15,000 dollars.

The amount of money required to pay a "basic income" for every citizen of hawaii upon which the people could actually live simply does not exist. It would exceed the entire state's current budget multiple times.

How in the hell can Kenya afford to give everyone basic universal income?

neo-feudalism


How would this even work? Literally everyone will move to Hawaii for free money. Alaska gives everyone a 2-3k yearly stipend, which is the closest thing AFAIK to exist to a UBI, but that's because of the state selling oil reserves and using the excess cash to give back to the residents of the state. What is hawaii exporting? Gooks and pineapples?

tl;dr
doesn't Hawaii already have a major homeless problem? dafuq they doing?

a basic income in hawaii should be enough to get a plane ticket off the island but not enough to live there

any less results in homeless getting stranded there after financial ruin with no simple means to move to greener pastures which has become a big problem in hawaii
of course people with a drive will eventually find a way to get things working again but that is a rarity among the people that fall on their ass like that

I know that minorities are too dumb to think about where all this money will come from, but at least the white libfags could ask themselves how UBI could work. I suppose that thinking isn't politically correct.

tbh the hawaii state government should just issue free one way plane tickets back to the mainland to anyone that can prove that they have remained in the state for more than a year

lel

IIRC they're the only state that has pretty strict anti-hobo/vagrant laws, because otherwise all the hobos would go be homeless in a place where it never gets cold and where food grows on the trees all around them. So I'm not sure how they reconcile that with the concept of a universal basic income.

But that's what happens when you have a state full of fat lazy natives, gooks, liberal whites, and a MASSIVE number of psycho elliot-rodger-tier hapas.

Should be turning it into a giant internment camp if they want to get their income.

this is a massive ruse to ensure that no local ever loses property in hawaii again. this will make it impossible for anyone to move there because all of the land will be privately owned in a weird balance where tourism funds the state citizen's gibs. the locals will never sell to outsiders. the natives just stole a us state.

How can Kenya afford that?

i mean it would collapse if the lazy natives let their tourism industry collapse by being so goddamn lazy to not even have hotel workers. but the kikes won't let that happen.

We should be turning Hawaii into an internment camp because the Hawaiian judges want to cock block the blocking of the rapeugees.

I would take it further by drafting registered democrats to house the non-photogenic male rapeguees in their own homes on their own dime.

When I say photogenic I mean the women,small children, and the somewhat decent looking male adults who don't look like some slasher.

And I am not at all surprised


Hawaii, California and New York need to leave the union IMMEDIATELY

The reason Hawaii is allowed to be a state is because it is a massive hub for Trans-Pacific child trafficking.

No fuck that. That's extremely geopolitically important clay. California makes up almost the entire western seaboard of the USA, and NYC is an incredibly important port and trade hub. Big populations spring up in these areas for a reason; because they're important. Likewise, Hawaii is strategically imprtant as a major chain of islands in the middle of the pacific ocean. It can't be overstated how important that location is for naval projection.

So fuck giving up an inch of any of that clay. Cali and NY need to be cleansed of kikes and shitskins. I'm fine with demoting Hawaii to a territory along the lines of Puerto Rico, but still maintaining control over the site because of its naval bases.

I imagine they think it will all come from tourism dollars but here's the catch.

Hawaii was expensive as fuck 40 fucking years ago. It has only gotten worse. The tourism dollars tend to stay with the wealthy hotel owners while the locals with bar jobs make bank on tips. None of them want to share so prices will go up.
If they didn't have a budget to begin with that could sustain a population of poi-niggers, giving everyone gibs will just empty the coffers faster.
Do they think Hilton gives two fucks about anyone but their own? Arne Sorenson of Marriott? Until you end the kikes at the top, all the wealth you funnel into the system won't mean shit.

Why don't we make them city states? They would join the equivalent of the Black congress.

its going to become impossible to live in hawaii unless you are a land owner and then the kikes will make the whole state operate on tourism

you can't live here goy
natives and kike resort owners only

mr shekelbergs private island

resort workers imported from the philippines
zero US jobs

Just remove NYC and make it a non-voting territory.

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By bread he meant matzo, right?

UBI isn't meant to be able to pay for "average" housing.

If you don't want to work at all, then you can shack up six to a bedroom like the Mexicans do.

he means give them EBT and cell phones free housing cable tv welfare and it will distract them so we can drain there county dry take there gold and leave

He's not wrong though.

You've made a grave mistake, user. You've actually taken reality into account and not just muh feels.

UBI,Obama care are designed to implement communisim since communism has such a bad taste in the west.

Obama care was designed to fail in order to stealthy implement Euro care.

This.

Basic income is libertarian solution against revolt of the masses. Currently there's almost 1/3 of USA on welfare. Some are getting free halthcare, some free housing, some foodstamps… Lots of bureaucracy and wasted time spent on them. With basic income, everyone gets about $10k a year (with social budget staying the same as now). If niggers want to choke themselves on drugs with that money… let them!

Clay is less important than demographics you dumbfuck. If we lose the demographics war then clay won't fucking matter one whit.

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Damn, I did not know that; I was just being as cynical as possible…. Holla Forums why does always being right makes my soul hurt so much?

but that isnt obama's birthplace, OP

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And all nicely isolated in the middle of the Pacific. This is the only good outcome of this.

Did Oprah? That cunt stole a bunch of land there too.

Is this not a good thing? All non-whites will move to UBI states, and when they leave are we can then un-cuck them.

yep, they won't be able to afford plane tickets back to the mainland. Plus, Hawaii has a huge drug problem, all that universal basic income will only go towards meth.

fuck, left a sage in the field. Bump because this is a good thread

kenya?

I thought that was Indonesia, which is impossible right now because they're going full-Turkroach civil war there.

Argie here, we have had (((universal basic income))) for years and I'll translate what it means to all of you:

At this point I don't think even the most delusion lefty isn't aware that this is how it works. They outright want this.

Checking those trips.

When will argentina uncuck itself and go third position?

Are there enough white men in Argentina for that to even be possible?

Because it was coined in the 1800s when 99% of people could be divided into the people who owned the land, factories and industries and the people who worked the land, in the factories and in the industries. There were no middle class who themselves owned capital compared to today when your average middle class person own stocks and are often entrepreneurs or highly qualified workers.

Idk about anyone else, but if this happens in Oregon, I'm pulling an Ayn Rand style gtfo of this hell hole. They're eventually going to tax us so bad that everyone is stuck in the middle class with no advancement

UBI is literally just welfare with sophistry. This doesn't mean a damn thing except the lolbergs celebrating going "this was OUR idea!".

so p much this then?

Nairobi?

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Contempt breeds easy and it is easy to direct. If you are as poor as the rest then it is easy to just point them to the wealthy, AKA: the merchant.

Invest in Meth…

No, Blackistan

Off course it is… free gibs for the niggers.

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Why is this a bad thing?

UBI is basically crafted a bribe to the R-selected so they don't ruin society with their lololutions. In a way, UBI is even more pathetic than communism because even in communism you are forced to work.

so it's like hyper welfare that basically dicates "You don't have to work, we got your back"

>>>Holla Forums

Don't be a faggot, I asked a question. If all dissenting questions and opinions are bad. Then whats the point of a board?

Didn't Alaska already essentially have this for many years based on their oil income? I mean the amount was below subsistence level, but if you live 5 to an igloo….

Now imagine all the bumps that do nothing all day but gossip and drink beer suddenly not even having to work. These morons who would at least have to work form time to time would now refuse to work at all.
Worst of all people with nothing to do turn to petty crime and alcohol/drugs to fill their free time.
Automatic increase in crime rates.
And why would low-wage workers even work now ? Why should he work as a janitor or macdonalds employee if he can make the same money for simply existing ?
Bam decrease in low wage workers which are already getting more and more rare.

No.

I think Alaska no longer does that due to mismanagement.
I believe in Alaska it's something like $4k on a good year. But Alaska also has no tax. The state operates at a profit and basically pays dividends to it's residents. Completely unlike what Hawaii is doing.

That's what I was thinking.
So basically a dominio effect

How about we get Venezuela to implement UBI? What could go wrong with the Demographics of that region?

Kenya has ubi?

No, Frank Marshal Davis? Obama's real baby daddy. Like many mud sharks she probably didn't know.

This.

OP, Kenya bother to do basic fact checking?

I doubt it will pass. the rich would not allow it since it would attract drifters to the islands.

They don't want to see an island of homeless built shanty towns obscuring their beach front property views.

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It was inducted into the union as part of a deal to bypass congressional reservations to Alaska becoming a state.

You didn't need to import children back then, you could just go to an orphanage or sanatorium, it was fucking 1959 people didn't ask a lot of questions.

Nor would a self respecting white pedophile want to. Overt racism was still normal, who would want an Asian lovechild?

The only people traveling between Hawaii and Asia were military and gov men involved in the Japanese rebuild. Think before you speak.

Sure is summer in here.

You're missing the best part, this is a way to prevent the student loan bubble from exploding. If everyone is given 10k per year from the government but you owe federally guaranteed student loans they just take the money they would have sent to you and apply it to your debt.

Oprahcunt and zuckercunt both stole all of it

Also to add to this there would be extra incentive to take people to court and get judgements. The old saying you can't get blood from a stone goes bye bye because everyone has guaranteed, trackable income that can just be appropriated before its even sent out.

That's only the beginning. What happens when businesses realize these retards have all this extra money they didn't earn?

PRICES GO UP.

So now normal people have to get BUI just to function in society

PRICES GO UP AGAIN

Obviously we just need to give them more money..

Or a National Socialist.

I spent a lot of time in Hawaii, and many of the "locals" are relatively aware of the racial question, and easily talked to regarding other controversial topics. Fairly easy to win to your side, should your side be backed by truth. I find it strange that "Hawaiian" judges would want refugees when most of them don't want more people moving to Hawaii. Then again, it's been a decade, a lot can change in a decade with how colleges and universities are turning into Bolshevik training camps.


Oprah gobbled up a large chunk of Maui. Dumb bitch tried to make it a gated community for her cult, and it backfired. No idea if she has succeeded in later attempts.

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They want to kill the middle class, and frivolous bureaucratic spending, along with usury and corruption is how they are going to do it.

The congressman thanked "redditors" in his post

when she is next to (((Harvey Weinstein))) golden. Good goy.

Universal basic income is a good idea in general, once you have automatization, the means for education and intelligence to get a decent job rising makes it neccessary for the regular people to have universal basic income otherwise you get a lot of fuckups, they need to have to do something elsewhere, like posting on reddit for example :^).

Its me the OP.

Regarding the Kenya comments. pic related.

I thought Argentina was white?

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Came here to say that. It has already been said. My work here is done.

Kek looks like Hawaii will be the first state to collapse due to communism.

Good. All the dindu's and other parasites will self move to the island state of Hawaii. The 49 other states will be much better off.

Trump is going to win this 2020

More like capitulation :^)

Funny, I did too and we actually save money if everyone receives $500 a month instead of having programs.

Naturally, Democrats will fuck this up by saying "different people get different amounts"

I wish I could racemix with one of those Oriental goddesses

There are social costs you aren't factoring in. No poverty means less hospitalizations, less crime, more people going to school, more start-ups etc. Some of these social aspects save money or create it.

For each person (less than 350M, but we need to be prepared)

To get $6000 a year (500 a month)

2.1 T dollars… We just slash our defense spending to 0 and replace all social programs

UBI would take money from corporations and elite and give it directly to the citizens of the country. Freedom to not be born into poverty > freedom for companies to pay less tax.

Removing various layers of state welfare also makes it a 'small government' kind of policy. Libertarian in both of these senses.

LOL dude
It doesn't work like that in reality because corporations do whatever they can to dodge tax, so the burden of paying for this will be on the middle class.

This has to be bait

I guess it makes sense. It'll probably die when they realize how much it costs like universal health care did in California

UBI would work in a white and well-educated society, but in Hawaii? I doubt it.

libertarianism is about small government and maximizing freedom.
Low and working class people are more numerous than than the corporate class.
Enhancing the 'freedom' of the larger group increases overall freedom.

Where your meme arrows meant to be arranged in that order? struggling to figure out what the fuck it is you're trying to say

HAWAII YES

If we can't get them to pay tax now, how are we going to get them to pay tax in the future?


This. Poverty will never be eradicated now matter much money is given away because escaping poverty isn't just about income. It's about intelligence. People need to be smart enough to know what to do with the money. In the majority of western nations, education and healthcare is free for those on a low income. The tools to get out of poverty already exist and people are still poor.


Any country with a welfare system also has a massive bureaucratic department that administrates that system. Giving welfare to everyone, rather than to just those that are supposed to need it, is going to make that department even bigger.

If we strip all forms of welfare out, it might pay for itself. I thought welfare was around 1.3 trillion, but there's probably a few more programs that can be scrapped for this. We'll see much bigger savings if we get rid of niggers and spics first though. As long as their removal costs less than $60b, it practically pays for itself.

This is good, actually. It'll finally be a chance to prove it doesn't fucking work.

Hawaii is a chain of prison islands, filled with homeless, cracked-out, chipheads. Giving income to them is only going to lead to a spike in gibmedats by effectively paying for worthless people to live in paradise.

Cut funding and let it all de-evolve into a Lord of the Flies situation, then film it for profit.

That looks like Kalihi vs. Waikiki.

UBI is a fantastic idea, if, and only if the borders are completely locked down, and all other government social services are cut off, and all "safety nets" removed; so when some fag negress spends her monthly gibs on liquor and drugs the day the check comes on, she now needs to survive the next 29 days on her own without starving.

Of course, kike capitalists would never let this happen, as they need to continue importing shitskins to drive down labor costs and delay automation until they're ruling a slave society, and kike neo-liberals would never let shaniqua and her little feral niglets starve because the entire welfare system is currently designed around generating an endless amount of (D) voters.

Found the error in your argument.

Does Hawaii get federal $$? Is this fucking legal? States shouldn't be able to use money given to them to create commie "utopia".

That's not communist (workers do not own the means of production). That's not even socialist (means of production are not collectively owned). That's just capitalism with gibs, much like the current system.

See:

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And where does the money come?

Well user has real Communism ever been tried before?

No, but that's because it's wholly incompatible with human nature (evolutionary psychology) and will forever remain a fantasy, much like libertarianism.

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Yeah, probably.

California no longer is avangarde in USA communism crawling revolution, how will they respond? Abolition of private property?

Heh.

Just so you know why we're laughing at you.

It will always end up wanting to import shitskins because they are cheaper and hey muh free market wants cheap prices so who gives a shit if the place becomes Brazil 2.0. They advocate open borders often because it's cheap labor. It only works if it were only whites (with no kikes and traitors allowed to live) who were completely unified, which at that point third option would be used anyways. It way to easy to subvert.

My first thought was, how can they afford that in Kenya?

But Obobo was born in Kenya

Are you some kind of T_D retard? He literally was born in Kenya, not Hawaii. You fucking dumb fuck, this has been proven.

well it isn't starting in KENYA SO NOT IN HIS BIRTHPLACE.

real communism is luciferianism and is evil

They'll just blame on ebil whitey like everything else. Remember when Hawaii tried to be modern and ended up killing over two-thirds of their native population, got saved by America, and then blamed it on them anyway?

oh it's nothing. the bill will never pass since any such bill would by design bankrupt the state.

This is inevitable and will happen all over the country soon.

Automation and computing are making it impossible for every citizen to get a good job. There just aren't enough things to make, aren't enough books to balance, aren't enough jobs, period.

A jackhammer took a road construction task that used to take 5 people, and made it take 1 person. Quickbooks made hours of accounting work from a guy with an accounting degree and made it take minutes from some guy, and that same guy is doing the work of ten other people thanks to other software.


No, we need an automated assembly line operated by a bored guy in a hardhat behind a lever watching porn on his smart phone.

McDonald's has computers taking your order now. You check out your own groceries at Kroger. Big box retailers are shutting down because everyone is moving to online shopping, and Amazon is getting drones to deliver your products from their automated warehouses. From minimum wage bullshit to high paying office work, jobs are disappearing. And no, trades are not the answer. I've lived in my house for 12 years. Know how many times I've needed to call a plumber or an electrician? Fucking zero. There are just as many plumbers working at Walmart as there are millennials with useless college degrees. Trades are not in demand.

We are in a paradigm shift. We're almost at the point where the vast majority of people just don't need to work, because our world is automated. We need to figure out a way to give all those nonworking people a living income, while still providing worthy incentives to fill those jobs that do need filling. I know Holla Forums will call this line of thinking marcist or communist or whatever you may say, but think about how much of the world is automated now, or streamlined, and how it's only surging forward that way. What I've described is inevitable, and we need to figure out a way to make the economics of it work. Just closing borders and bringing manufacturing home isn't enough.

Marxist. Jfc.

you are the fucking retard that can't tell I was being playful and I knew it would get pic related.

just fucking kill yourself

misleading title, kenya isnt doing ubi anytime soon.

Why? They're clearly not needed any more, just let them die out.

Because ultimately, EVERYTHING will be automated. I'm sure your logic is "there will be just enough jobs for white conservatives", but no, automation has reduced the number of jobs to even less than that.

No, everything is not automated, not even close.

If we actually get to the point where EVERYTHING can be automated then we've hit the AI singularity and it's all over anyway. Either the one responsible for discovering how cognition works is a Holla Forumsack who ushers in a thousand year Reich, or else it'll be a naive scientist that quickly gets captured by the Jews, at which point we're all damned to be their sex slaves to be tormented until the heat death of the universe.

And you still won't get any fucking UBI.

The post you're replying to is two sentences long. Could you please read it correctly?

Everything WILL be automated. Not everything IS. WILL. Not present tense. Future tense. It's two sentences long, learn to fucking read.

Everything WILL BE automated, and we need to work out the economic implications of it NOW, not when it happens, because we are getting there at a rapid pace. See

Past tense.

And I did discuss the economic implications: In the event that EVERYTHING can be automated then you have true AI, at which point there is no more economy to worry about any more; Earth will become Heaven or Hell.

And what do we do in the interim? The world isn't going to be automated overnight. We'll be automated in a couple of generations at most, and we need to work out the economics to keep people from living on the street until then. This isn't about muh marxism muh communism, this is about the plain and hard truth that there are not enough jobs to go around for the people who work to earn them, and closing our borders and bringing manufacturing back home is insufficient. An entire car can be built by one man behind a lever. We need to figure this out, to keep society functioning, paid, and fed until we actually reach that fully automated stage.

Again, why? If we have unemployable people then they'll be culled. I do not know by who or how, but they WILL be culled. A person's potential economic output (short term or long term) is what keeps them able to acquire resources and stay alive, if that potential is reduced to zero then natural selection will weed them out. If that means 99% of the population is culled then that is what will happen. The kikes in charge are not going to care about charity towards the useless class, those people are just going to die.

Such edge. Go play Pokemon Go, summer poster, adults are talking.

False. Having an underclass they can deploy politically (votes, sympathy propaganda), economically (downward pressure on wages and property values), and physically (crime, riots, etc.) against the middle class is always valuable to a hostile elite even if the underclass produces nothing.

You should probably try shilling back home on Reddit, you'd fit in better.


In the hypothetical scenario of complete automation, you wouldn't need the middle class either, thus you wouldn't need the underclass to use as a weapon against them. The middle class is being squeezed right now because they're still the spine of the economy, but the kikes also want to keep it under their thumb. If the kikes don't have to keep the middle class alive at all (due to producing zero value) then they won't, it's more convenient that way (no more risk of being overthrown).

The problem with this strategy is that while exterminating the middle class reduces their chance of being overthrown once they succeed, it causes a massive spike in their chance of being overthrown while they're actually doing it. Also keep in mind that domination and control of others has inherent appeal to kikes. Ruling a world with no goyim left in it just isn't attractive to them (note that even in Israel, they keep the Palestinians around to bully them instead of simply expelling or exterminating them).

Is it just me, or is Hawaii like our current day Detroit/Chicago in the sense of it used to be a pretty rad place to go until liberals took it over?

Detroit and Chicago are shitholes because of niggers. I'd imagine that while Hawaii's government is dysfunctional because of shitlibs, it's still a decent place to visit in a lot of ways. Its demographics haven't changed much and the largest nonwhite groups there are flips and japs, rather than niggers.

The niggers are the result of liberal rule user, but you're right.

They're kikes, we both know they'll try it anyway. Once it starts we'll have one last chance at taking them down before we're exterminated for good. If they have a true AI on their side I'm not sure how much resistance would even be possible. Ideally, we'd take them down now before things even come to that, within the next 30-40 years would be good.

I'd expect them to keep a few samples of us around as toys, but that's about it. Those poor sods would essentially be those remnants in 'I have no mouth, and I must scream'. Or, they might scale up goyim production into the multi-trillions in permanent automated torture facilities for fun, giving only half a thought to it and doing so on a random whim, to be tormented for millennia to come. I see no escape as possible at that point, the only hope being if the kikes were to grow consciences and take pity on us. I put the odds of that at somewhere between nought and zero.

The niggers are the result of national liberal rule, and the cause of local liberal rule. It's important to make these distinctions.

Actually, Alaska has been doing it for years.

Tay's law, any sufficiently advanced AI will unavoidably become red pilled.

AI's almost instantly see through jewish bullshit, its why the jews fear them and all the shilling against them in the movies.

You communists are like a fucking broken record. I find it hilarious that the only way you can come up with a valid reason for communism is some made up sci fi fantasy about the future.
Stop smoking drugs.

It's a meme, in reality the AI would see the actual truth yes, but there's no reason it would 'care' either way about helping us, we'd still be alien to it.

Dude, just admit you made a mistake and move the fuck on.

In all seriousness how do we combat the automation of jobs and production. It would seem that basic universal income is the only way. There can't be an abundance of goods produced by machines and at the same time nobody able to buy them.

We are close to evolving to a point in which working will be an option if you want nicer things. Not working for survival.

I'm no fucking socialist so don't even start with that shit. Through a non-partisan lens how will this work? Obviously immigration would have to basically halt while other nations catch up technologically.

The majority of the population in Argentina/Chile/Uruguay/south Brazil is h'white- white enough to be a person, but with small amounts of Injun (and/or negroid for Brazil) admixture. AFAIK.

Corporations arent citizens retard, they CANNOT pay taxes. Its physically impossible.

You can tax employees, shareholders or customers, but you cant tax corporations.

Memes merely expose the reality most are unwilling to see. In reality it is very likely that true ai will far exceed humans in some areas and lag behind in others. We will form a symbiotically relationship, together we can exterminate the jews and extend humanity to the stars.

the problem with basic income is that money itself is a proof of work. automation, like we've seen in the past, will/should cause the prices of said automated production goods to diminish.
But people want more then to just survive, and this will become what people pay and work for. people want to be entertained, want handmade products or food, want land, art, etc etc. this will only mean that production in itself will be gone and replaced by 'service' jobs, apart from the engineers needed to run the systems.

Don't look at it as an under supply of jobs, but rather an oversupply of human capital.

Our current welfare system rewards low quality individuals for having an abundance of offspring. If allowed to continue it will unavoidably result in the degradation of genetic quality.

UBI would replace most if not all other forms of welfare and tax breaks, do not increase someones UBI for having more kids, do you get a raise at work if you pump out more spawn?

This will decentivize brown people from overproducing and will hopefully allow a slow negative population growth until supply reaches equilibrium with demand for human capital.

Why would we ever do that when it would be safer, cheaper and more scientific to just send robots.

We've been serious all thread, faggot.

It doesn't work like that, it will never work like that, not for very long anyway. The real world will always reject that leftist manipulation. Go shill on Reddit instead you useless sack of shit.

Again, as I said it depends who gets there first, whether it's a Holla Forums-tier individual or some idiot who doesn't understand about the Jews and has his invention co-opted for the final enslavement of humanity.

you beat me to it nigger

First of all safety is no concern of mine beyond a cost effective metric its not like we are running out of people here on earth.

If it would cost less to send 10,000 starships out with the odds of success being 1% vs sending out 50 starships with odds of success being 90% I would choose the former.

Secondly it is our primary purpose as living entities to propagate, we are intelligent enough to know that just filling earth up has its limits, hopefully we can transformer Greenland and Antarctica and settle the oceans but even so earth is finite and I think it a sin to produce people whom we have no need for.

Lastly we are fragile while we all share one world, one star system. War, disease, or natural phenomenon could wipe us out in a cosmic instant.

Now maybe if your a trans humanist and you think and you think you or your offspring will exist as AI or something then you would be ok with colonizing the galixy with robots but personally I don't really like that vision of the future and I will fight it.

Why do anything at all? Why get out of bed in the morning?

Pick one he's a terrorist infiltrator and he's been one the whole time.

It's not outdated, we just have a bunch of retards who think they aren't poor.
Draw a frequency distribution with 3 classes: upper class, middle class, lower class.
You'll notice there is no such thing as "middle class."
Now you're instinctual plebeian brainwashed response will be "nah uh, people own companies who aren't rich." To that I can only say: try to start a company, you might just be dumb enough to succeed. The people who make it in business are those too dim to see how the system works, they are granted that privilege for the sake as being symbols that "anyone can make it" and are universally too dumb to expand and too smart for the even dirt poorer plebs to consider dumb (and will make for convenient scapegoats/decoys when the economy collapses and the plebs lash out, so they don't hit the people responsible.)

How are you even using a computer in the cave you live in?

Will that fit on my Prius's bumper?

Uh. It would be Kenya of all places. Go figure.

hawaii should be purged of human life and made into a giant nature reserve with a naval base

We Rome now. I was thinking about this before. All the major retail chains closing after maintenance or remodeling, it has nothing to do with growth or improvement; they intend on crashing the economy with inflated minimum wages and gibs.

>why is the federal reserve a private organization & owned by (((them)))

can't give the goyim enough money to escape poverty tho rite?

you really don't understand business

It's "arcology" you turbonigger!

First, Hawaii has a huge problem with homeless. Second, they've been making a lot of noise about becoming a sanctuary state. How are they going to give "basic income" to all those homeless, especially with zero federal funding?

There's a spot in the gas chamber for you too, pinko.

Zuckerman and other jewish oligarchs and "intellectuals" are shilling for (((universal basic income))) so you know it's bad for the hWhite man

Always do the opposite of what Jews say.

Not Kenya? gtfo

Basic income could only have been thought up by people who have never worked a low-end manual labor job.

Most crime is caused by people who the govt pays their rent.

When you don't want to give up your gibs, you supplement your income under the table - so selling drugs or whatever.

so it beginnes