Convince me communism has any value. Throw the arguments and I may address them, unless you are of course scared of challenging your believes.
Capitalistic system of the year 2016 and most of the previous years: - I can achieve what I want if I work hard enough - I can live in relative comfort depending on my abilities, and how smart I am - Operates on realistic principles
… did any, and I mean it, ANY communistic system has achieved ANY of those three aforementioned "milestones"? Was there ever a single, and I mean it, a SINGLE state or area where communism has worked greatly enough to let me buy a bread by working for it for 5 minutes by writing a program and without waiting 10 hours in a queue?
This is statistically untrue. Upward class mobility is actually extremely low in most countries, and it's getting worse. It's also worse the more capitalist a country is when compared to socdem countries with strong social spending. This is proven by the fact that productivity and the amount of work the average person does has continuously increased and yet the middle class is shrinking and wages are actually falling,
Again, it doesn't have much to do with ability, work ethic or intelligence. And the prosperity of capitalism was only possible because of major expansions of the welfare state and the growth of the labour movement, which were quickly dismantled almost as soon as they were implemented.
I'm not sure what you mean by this.
Socialism in Russia resulted in literally the fastest industrialization of any country in human history, the creation of permenant food security (something that had never existed in Russia before), massive expansion of literacy, constant economic growth, the total elimination of homelessness and unemployment, and gave Russia the world's 2nd highest GDP for the majority of the Cold War. All this from a country that at the start of the century had literally emancipated their serfs less than 50 years before, and had lost 20 million people in WW2.
Oh and let's also not forget Yugoslavia, which went from being entirely rural to being massively urbanized and industrialized after the war. So much so that it is considered an "Economic miracle" country alongside Germany and Japan.
Evan Hughes
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
*breathes*
HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!
So anyway, how's that small business going? :^)
Wew lad.
Henry Richardson
Listen, I understand, you feel passionate about calling out us "ebil gommies" and i respect your tenacity. But this post, my friend, its just so shitty. I know its snarky of me to say, and believe me I don't want to sound like a little shit, but please just lurk more. The answer to these thing have probably been repeated multiple times this month. Or just read a little bit of our theory, you might have a realization and find your inner Communist. Just doing this "HARHAR HAR gOMMUNISM IS MENTAL ILLNESS" is not going to get you what you want on this board.
Luis Hill
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Tyler Roberts
You have 10 seconds to explain why you hate wealth and freedom.
Samuel Myers
If you value your life, you'll be a communist, otherwise we will kill you. ;^)
Jackson White
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Anthony Reyes
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Isaac Perry
What income level are you OP? What is your current occupation? What were your parents occupations?
why use a pic that completely contradicts your point tho
Leo Bell
Communism is the resistance, it is the revolutionary overthrow of all existing social conditions. Communism isn't a notion of implementation but rather an active movement to overthrow all existing social conditions.
The existing order is corrupt and in needs to be overthrown. Neither liberals nor fascists are truly revolutionary - they only seek to preserve the old order and the rule of the elites. Fascists were counter revolutionaries supported by the establishment to crush the revolution. Though that didn't entirely work out the counter revolutionaries the elites look to today are mainly Islamic fundamentalists as the old fascism is discredited so they changed methods.
The main defining aspect of communism is the overthrow of all existing conditions - but on the question of how to actually achieve a society that functions properly is always a continuing area of work. Generally speaking we agree on opposing dogma or rigid ideology and establishing the most advanced social system based upon science and technology that is free of exploitation.
