When you dismiss/critique something simply by saying it is

Jason Watson
Jason Watson

When you dismiss/critique something simply by saying it is: bourgeois, what do you mean exactly? what is it that you're saying about that thing?

Jaxson Johnson
Jaxson Johnson

bourgeois is not a strong criticism, it is a soft criticism.

Easton Green
Easton Green

sometimes they mean it in a bitter way, like they're jealous that people have access to that "bourgeois" thing. like ice cream made with bourbon barrel aged tahitian vanilla and Don Perignon vintage, decorated with gold leaf. That is extravagent, don't you think?

but most people use it on a more ideological ground, to refer to beliefs and systems which promote a liberal false consciousness, like equal enfranchisement, liberal equality, idpol, etc. Trotsky wrote about this when he said:

Natural law, which developed into the theory of democracy, said to the worker: “all men are equal before the law, independently of their origin, their property, and their position; every man has an equal right in determining the fate of the people.” This ideal criterion revolutionized the consciousness of the masses in so far as it was a condemnation of absolutism, aristocratic muh privileges, and the property qualification. But the longer it went on, the more if sent the consciousness to sleep, legalizing poverty, slavery and degradation: for how could one revolt against slavery when every man has an equal right in determining the fate of the nation?

Rothschild, who has coined the blood and tears of the world into the gold napoleons of his income, has one vote at the parliamentary elections. The ignorant tiller of the soil who cannot sign his name, sleeps all his life without taking his clothes off, and wanders through society like an underground mole, plays his part, however, as a trustee of the nation’s sovereignty, and is equal to Rothschild in the courts and at the elections. In the real conditions of life, in the economic process, in social relations, in their way of life, people became more and more unequal; dazzling luxury was accumulated at one pole, poverty and hopelessness at the other. But in the sphere of the legal edifice of the State, these glaring contradictions disappeared, and there penetrated thither only unsubstantial legal shadows. The landlord, the laborer, the capitalist, the proletarian, the minister, the bootblack – all are equal as “citizens” and as “legislators.” The mystic equality of Christianity has taken one step down from the heavens in the shape of the “natural,” “legal” equality of democracy. But it has not yet reached earth, where lie the economic foundations of society. For the ignorant day-laborer, who all his life remains a beast of burden in the service of the bourgeoisie, the ideal right to influence the fate of the nations by means of the parliamentary elections remained little more real than the palace which he was promised in the kingdom of heaven.

[The Liberals say to Christianity]”You are lulled to sleep by promises of eternal bliss at the end of your life, while here you have no rights and you are bound with the chains of tyranny.” The Socialist Party, a few decades later, said to the same masses with no less right:– ”You are lulled to sleep with the fiction of civic equality and political rights, but you are deprived of the possibility of realizing those rights. Conditional and shadowy legal equality has been transformed into the convicts’ chain with which each of you is fastened to the chariot of capitalism.”

~Trotsky, Terrorism and Communism (1920), Ch. 3

Matthew Gray
Matthew Gray

Of or relating to the bourgeoisie, the ownership class that controls the means of production. Typically referring to social, political, or economic constructs that reify or reinforce thoughts or institutions that are amenable to bourgeois domination over society.

Carter Green
Carter Green

is the cbc bourgeois?

bbc?

Nathaniel Rogers
Nathaniel Rogers

middle class small individual values like getting fancy food at a fancy grocery store and caring how healthy it is, or thoughts about how the normal system (universities, government, police) are mostly okay, but any deviants should be ignored or scolded or changed.

tell me if I'm wrong, but in a way it comes across as an absence, or a neutrality, towards society. by not critiquing things at a marxist level, something already becomes bourgeois

Leo Harris
Leo Harris

what is bourgeois media or books or culture like?

aren't most of you into that stuff?

Isaac Clark
Isaac Clark

"bourgeois" doesn't necessarily mean "bad"

Lukacs considered anything that omits the nature of class relations/struggle as bourgeois iirc.

I don't know if you saw the Disney Princess and the Frog movie, but the relationship between the poor black girl and rich white one would make it "bourgeois" in that it propagates this idea that there's no divide or conflict between the ownership and working classes.

I'm sure there are better examples but that's the first that came to mind.

Chase White
Chase White

What is it that you're saying about that thing?
Basically that it supports or appeals to the upper class. Bourgeois politics, for example, are politics that support the upper class or business owners, such as tax cuts or lowered regulations. A more petty example would be bourgeois food, you know, like the stuff you get in expensive restaurants, or gluten-free-homegrown-artisanal 20$ slices of toast if you're more hip.

Austin Price
Austin Price

are 'food trends' bourgeois just b/c they are expensive? are eaten by the bourgeois? does that mean the proletariate just have simple/basic tastes?

Jeremiah Williams
Jeremiah Williams

are eaten by the bourgeois?
Pretty much. Expensive food trends are a part of the upper class culture. You gotta eat the food rich people eat, wear the clothes they wear, etc. A lot of trends and fashions are about emulating rich people, because the rich are often seen as more classy or just better. That's why you see a lot of middle class or even poor families busting their budget to dine in expensive restaurants or buy a wedding dress that they'll only wear once, because it makes them feel rich.

Daniel Powell
Daniel Powell

that is called 'cultural capital' right?

Eli Carter
Eli Carter

do you guys just dismiss ike everything as bourgeois?????

Joseph Butler
Joseph Butler

Pretty bourgeois thing to say tbh

Julian Harris
Julian Harris

man we should play fun drawing games like that more often

Christopher Jones
Christopher Jones

that's true, decent is liberal

Lucas Hill
Lucas Hill

Put the bottle down and go to bed my man.

Mason Howard
Mason Howard

guess what. im going to keep drinking

Dylan Roberts
Dylan Roberts

it's really not a good critique usually. if someone does that, they're either joking or probably a closet stalinist usually.

David Russell
David Russell

when someone says 'you just need to work harder' and you say they're being 'bourgeois' you;re being a stalinist?

Ryder Murphy
Ryder Murphy

it's a non argument you should stop using it if you want to start connecting with the workers

Kevin Jackson
Kevin Jackson

Bourgeois means it relates to the capitalist class, their society or their ideology. Specifically, bourgeoisie means the class of capitalists who own the means of production. The petite (or "small") bourgeoisie are an in-between class made of small business owners, managers, lawyers, politicians, academics, etc.

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