Non-Sectarian Meme Page 4U

You can't possibly make the left look more sectarian than it already is.

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this tbh. Next time don't let spergs moderate

So is it Falcon or Yung Schtalin?

lelnin was the one who spurged out. Falcon, Pierre, Schnitz and Tito Dick Dickman Baby are among the exiled, along with a couple others I forget

why did he sperg out?

He got pissed off about halloween stirnerposting and then got pissed at Tito for not reading lenin. Then he decided he just wanted a group where everyone agreed with him.

1. where is your proofs
2. how did a random admin, who didn't even make the page, kick other admins off?

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He did make the page, I was one of the first ones who joined after him. He decided he no longer wanted a non-sectarian admin team.

My proof is that we control the former backup page. I'd prefer not to provide the group chat logs out of a respect for the privacy of everyone involved.

How many mods were there? How many were expelled?

BAUDRILLARD WAS RIGHT

wasn't me

let's not exaggerate

There were about 14 or so mods. But some were inactive. At least 6 were expelled, all of which were active.

What can you tell us about the beliefs of that 6?

Oh, do not feel too complimented.

It's relative.

It is relieving to see that it wasn't you though.

Will he implement a fedbook version of the NEP and start posting state capitalist memes now?

Well some had admiration for stirner/egoism and all of them weren't leninist.

I would have done the same too, tho.

OK, so lets say 2 guys were stirnerites, you mentioned 1 titoist, what else?

Well if he created the page in the first place, I can't say I really care about this. He was doing fine running the page at the start, and I think it will probably be fine post-purge. It's just a propaganda outlet, so it doesn't really matter who is "represented" in the adminship.

The people purged probably contributed some 60% of the content.

The posts matter and IMO stirnerposting and animeposting on a facebook page with 55k followers is counter-productive.

more isn't better

They get all their content from Holla Forums. I've seen dozens of my own OC posted there and was pretty glad to see it. But I don't see why the page would need fourteen admins to do that.

I don't see the reasoning behind this. I think people like Stirner and anime.

Stirnerposting is OK in small doses. The anime posting is embarrassing as hell and is one of the reasons I don't publicly "like" that page.

Well, the page is called "for commie proles" and Stirner wasn't a communist and had little for proles. I know that on facebook "likes" are the only thing that matter, but we should be more clever than to succumb to the logic of the incredibly bourg platform we are using.

All in all, a division was made and enacted. That is politics proper in action and you can't blame them for that. You could say that the wrong line won, but before that we'd need to observe how the new line changes the page.

IMO stirnerposting is embarrasing as hell as well. And the average age of stirnerites is telling too. stone me to death

You sound really stuck-up and self-conscious m8.

what anime posting?

Restrict these rounds vs. your parents, k?

seems fishy
lel

were there any ancoms banned?

What's your problem? I don't even know what you enjoy.

Falcon was the technocrat, Schnitz is probably veering towards ancom now.

I enjoy seeing people getting buttblasted at others criticizing anime.

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good riddance
He's a bit too inexperienced for all of this.

Well I'm glad he's gone. I didn't like the admin tags either. I just want the leftcom admin back, because leftcoms are my favourite marxist sect.

Too inexperienced to post in a meme page?

FUCK THAT SHIT

lol whatever floats your boat.

DCMFCP OWNER, WE SUMMON YOU ITT
pls respond, wat's going on?

Owner of the page doesnt even go on Holla Forums anymore iirc, so summoning him is useless.

Yeah, basically what happened was lelnist got pissed at us for posting stirner memes on halloween because "SPOOKS!!11". So he purged everyone he didnt like, and now pierre is gay

Stay strong Schnitz.

Also, when are you doing that video of you criticising Prager U?

Was trying real hard to get a special guest on it, but ultimately failed. So I'll have to rewrite the script this weekend and film it over the course of the coming week.

It depends what you do with the page. Putting out totally conflicting political views is retarded, meme page or not.

Who was that special guest?

Also, what kind of communist are you?

Leninist? Marxist-Leninist? Trotskyist? Stalinist?

jason unruhe

I can't specifically say I have a defined ideology, but currently I'm reading Workers Councils and I think Council Communism is bretty gud. most of my soviet shits ironic

=OOOOOOHHHHHHHHHH SHIIIIIITTTTT=

cut to the chase: state or no state?

So would that put you on the authoritarian left or libertarian left?

Centralized state that should be made up of workers councils in charge of differing workplaces and municipalities from the bottom up, unlike leninism which is the top down.

'libertarian left' mostly applies to just anarchists, so I would assume no

To further on this actually, the notion of the 'libertarian left' would imply that left wing ideology was not inherently libertarian itself. Marxism-Leninism and other state "socialist" ideologies mostly seem to practice, as stated many times before, state capitalism.

Basically, communism in itself is libertarian, and to identify as libertarian communist or libertarian socialist is adding more words than needed.

What the fuck? Where is the page going to get dank content then?

Is there actually someone who gets mad at the lovable scamp Stirner?

Holla Forumsyps mostly

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All that matters is which page schtalin is on. He's the best admin imo

Fucking leftists can't even keep a fedbook meme page going without splitting.

The Stirnerposting was getting pretty tiresome though, skeleton day or no skeleton day.

Glorious purge

Remove leftcoms!

Sup.

The more educated admins got tired of the illiteracy and mindless shitposting by admins on topics and individuals they don't understand beyond the very entry-level buzzwords and quirks they are associated with ('spook xd' with Stirner, 'ideology haha sniff sniff lol' with Zizek, etc.).

The problem to us wasn't even really the illiteracy itself, nor do we have any problem with Stirner shitposting (although we all voiced our dislike for it being low effort and unfunny) like is being implied here it seems, but rather the smug and pretentious attitude these admins had towards any given subject or individual they know nothing about. If we just want mindless shitposting, we don't need additional retards to do this for us (we can schedule an entire folder, autopost, etc.). What we always wanted was either educated people around to educate others, or non-educated people ambitious enough to educate themselves. We were multi-tendency from the very beginning, so alternate ideologies or views are absolutely not a problem. The problem is glorified ignorance. This is what motivated our purge, and these admins are definitely welcome to back if they change their posture.

That's Holla Forums for you.

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And then nobody cared.

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Oh because you all completely innocent of being smug and dismissing ideologies/people you don't like. I rarely discussed these ideologies with the public because I didn't want the page to come off as sectarian, and I even asked you all about the halloween spookposting several days before hand where no objections were raised. We were never going to do anything against you guys even if we disagreed with you. I even apologized over my position about leninism to lelnin afterwards, he proceeded to unfriend me.

I didn't want to make this thread because I knew it would cause needless drama. I waited several days for him to see reason.

Read the post. You weren't purged for your ideologies, but for your attitudes. We don't need admins that are basically occupied with just shitposting various topical lefty memes because of the novelty. This can all be automated, if not just done casually with zero effort whatsoever.

What cannot be automated, however, is critical thinking and a constructive attitude. From what I've seen (and I agree with FALCon, Lelnin, Isaac and John here), you've never taken serious any criticism whatsoever (deflecting it as 'well, that's your opinion man lol xd'), but more importantly have refused to agree to partake in a more serious and organized admining style. One where the chat would be used for serious discourse and group criticism instead of an extension of casual feefee talk, but instead disseminating propaganda efficiently and making proper theory for our huge audience. You'd rather spend your time barraging shitpost after shitpost of lefty tropes like Zizek, Marx, Stirner, Lenin, etc. for nothing but superficial laughs instead. Not once have any of the admins purged suggested we do anything beyond this, and have (at best) only feigned to care about building educative posts or having a serious discussion, only to then move on like it never happened and go back to shitposting.

don't delude yourself here

I can excuse you for forgetting, but I was the one who launched the most passionate defense of the page whenever we were attacked by idpol liberals. That is one thing which cannot be automated either.

If you believe all I did was deflect criticism by claiming shit was "just your opinion man" I point you to both my apology to lelnin recently/my attempt to reconcile with him after Farkas tried to make the serious discussion group, as well as the several pages worth of text in the groupchat I spent defending my positions. Something I now regret doing as it seemed to only polarize the group.

You might also do well to remember that I was also the only one who posted anything relating to actual activism. That I was the only one who was posting bunkermag articles and the catgirl comics in an effort to build up the community. That I made posts linking to non-divisive theory or jpegs of serious quotes and whatnot. I can give you links if you want.

You accuse me of not taking the memes seriously by playing them up for laughter, but that ignores just how irony operates for us. Think about military discipline, without the ironic, often lewd humor and insults which permeate its culture it cannot operate effectively. That discipline generally is not found without a secrete permissiveness. But think for a moment if we took the memes seriously. They would loose that permissive power and would become self-destructive, becoming unfunny and unlikable and sectarian. Even you all must realize this, for the content of the posts since our absence has not significantly changed. If anything, the ultimate problem with our group was that we took ourselves too seriously in the chat, myself included.

interesting post

This makes perfect sense, and it's what I was saying earlier. Page owner, I implore you to continue shitposting lefty memes, automated or otherwise. IMO that is the best propaganda, because it's emotional and not rhetorical.

FULLY AUTOMATED SHITPOSTING COMMUNISM

Sounds more like the good old "you're a judgemental asshole so you're stuck up" and "you avoid 'childish' things because you're self-conscious about your age" implications to me.

I don't see how I had a smug attitude when I practically never debated politics or talked with most in the admin chat

your making shit up you dumb fucker

fuggen dis

FWIW: what was it like to have these 'discussions?'
wut
and the more this page's influence grew aso dis my despise for these unprincipled pseudo fucks who just jumped on to what was for them the next mr. bones ride

What a bunch of whining little shites you all are. This thread, the topic, the people in it and so on and so on are the reason the left is always trampled by retards who don't put much thought into anything. If I hadn't already completely given up on the human race you would have chipped away at a bit of my faith, but all you have done is once more illustrate the utter fucking uselessness of people.

Get fucked.

edgy egoist detected

Anyway. I can justify my "whining" in a few sentences.

I believe in the necessity of grabbing power when it presents itself. When your page has 50+k likes and a possible 600k reach on "social" media it is political power. I believe in squeezing out the most of the given situation.

For you as it was already said here
it's just

Good. We did not beg for your compassion after the purge because we saw that you had no passion in the first place.

I don't recall there being anyone younger than 18 on the team

Nico, Schnitz, that other moron

Just had a look, before the purge a stirnerpost got 200 likes and the "lmao fuck stirner borbogas amirite xd" got 80.

So all you've done is fuck up your growth potential so you can have a little power fantasy. Looks like you're the one with the ego here.

this was already discussed here:

The corporate logic of the platform (Facebook) measures its self-serving "success" in the quantity of likes per post, and we radicals see through its capitalist logic.

Let's say we get 1225 likes for an anime image where the big titted lady's head is replaced by Stirner, subtitled: "spooks" and the following rabid discussion is about the "objectification of wymyn's bodies" and "lol, spooks" and "I'd own her means of reproduction," etc.

Let's say we get 126 likes for a proper theory post that is followed by some asking for sources, some arguing against (which is totally fine), and some contacting us in PM in an inquisitive/offensive manner.

Which is worth more?

Nico is 19, Schnitz is 18 and I do not know who else you refer to

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WEW

Not to mention, the more successful shitposts that are made, the more the audience grows for serious posts. These are not zero sum games.

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And your point is? Not to mention some of these were produced by the exiled admins.

Well said.

NONE of these were produced by the exiled admins.

I don't know about the others, but I made this one

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The 1225, because the average facebook user is a normie fuck who hasn't cottoned onto the fact they're on a data selling, ad serving site full of spamming robots so it works better for exposure. Obviously it wasn't an either/or choice, it's not an argument tier justification after the fact.

Is not me (the guy you are responding to) but we're on the same page anyway.

Found the Holla Forums convert.

I hate liars

I was a communist before you had your first masturbation fantasy, babby.

Was more to do with the contextless look at this graph posting.

And don't call me babby, you got some nerve and babby that'll never do. You know I don't belong to you. It's time you knew I'm not your babby, I belong to me, so don't call me babby.

Yes, you most likely did. I dumped without double checking.

edgy egoism

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Pierre you homo what are you even doing?

itt

PAGE OWNER
Have you considered posting about the "purge" on your page and linking to the alternative page as a measure of goodwill?

Is it that admin that was spamming anti-leftcom memes every fifteen seconds and literally nothing about anti-right wing, anti-capitalism or anything pro socialism?