Daily reminder that all ideologies are nothing more than a demented substitution for religion and until the spiritual...

Kek. Everything is political, therefore everything is ideology. Only a cohesive thought system can defeat another cohesive thought system. Do you actually believe that a piece-meal assemblage of ideas can rival the formidable compendium of impenetrable (yet thoroughly accepted) dogmas that the jews have created?
Healthy skepticism will never accomplished jack shit when confronted with unwavering certainty. Pick a side nigger.

I think that a compelling new religion would crush the Jews utterly and completely

Individuals can become the overman, how can we do so en mass?

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you just want to shitpost

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Political ideologies have two dimensions:
1. Goals: how society should work
2.Methods: the most appropriate ways to achieve the ideal arrangement

Religion is inadequate for deciding how resources should be distributed, how taxes should be levied, what 'rights' its citizens have, how budgets should be spent, how the citizenry will be represented in the government and to what extent their input will be able to influence things, etc.

There is a lot more to ideology than such a simple surface level understanding of the term which OP seems to have.

National Socialism is by far the best response to the death of God that humanity has thus far produced but it's still not an adequate replacement.

I can think of a compelling old religion which handled the jewish question just fine - and would do so again.
Hint
It has something to do with Hitler

no shit

We're doomed and God is cursing our nation. Thanks, fedoras.

Hitler lost

Religion unifies a society in a single way of interpreting and structuring the world while no society has ever even come close to being uniform in agreement on ideology. Hell even Hitler got like 40-50% of the vote if I remember right.

Ideology can never unite and uniformly structure a people like religion can and has.

In the 3rd Reich, the church was protected by the State, and most of the rank-and-file national socialists were churchgoers, as were the people. It was not, in my view, a "response to der tod Gottes".

Your point?
there were, after all, a few mitigating factors

It supported the church as a cultural institution for obvious reasons but National Socialism was not a derivative of the christian religion. In the past we thought that god structured our society you can see this in the Vatican being above emperors and kings and in the concept of the divine right of kings.

Back then politics flowed downstream and bent to religion and now it's the other way around. With secular morality determining christian beliefs and practices.

So you're point here is to naysay ideologies because religion is superior in terms of influence but god is dead because gods can decompose? Religion and ideology are obviously the same fucking thing. You're thinking is circular, you clearly had no other purpose than lainposting.

I'm more of a Perrenialist/Esoteric Hitlerist, but culturally we are bound to Christianity. It will probably be some kind of Christianity, with a mystery school element, that facilitates our new religion. There is already enough foundation in the Bible for us; the social conservatism, and economic leftism, is perfect for National Socialism to spring from. I admit that some parts of the Bible are too kike'd for me to enjoy, but Christians have a remarkable way of ignoring the parts they don't like, or finding some other verse to negate it.

A subsect of Catholicism is probably the best way to do this. It gives us an institutional against the inevitable onslaught of Kike-lawyers and politicians trying to shut us down. The creation of a new sub-denomination/priestly order is a fantastic way to hijack a subverted institution, and attempt to reclaim it. The episcopals are another option, and they would certainly be easier to subvert. A single man could secure an entire diocese for /our guys/. The reason I'm hesitant for the other protestant branches is that there's a long history of ranting protestants that get absolutely nowhere, it's even become a stereotype.

And Christ was crucified by his enemies. But he still won in the end. If by some miracle National Socialism wins, that would only be possible because of Hitler's previous actions. He would retroactively become a winner. I know you enjoy plunging your spear into his side, but all is not said and done - not yet.

Very true - as well it should. Considering the universalist filth that passes for modern Christianity nowadays, any revolutionary political system that would bend to it would be in serious trouble. Now, if there were denominations in a given country which espoused positive, racially-conscious ideals, then maybe the political movement could accept to play second fiddle, as it were. For now, this is clearly not a possibility.

you worship a hippie jew

I agree.
Now we just have to find a way to get rid of this foreign Semitic faith of treachery, known as Christianity, and to resynthesize European spirituality as it was for the majority of human existence.

Then why are we here talking about how to defeat international Jewry?

Nice D&C attempt, kike. But my Christian brothers have always been enemies of the Bolsheviks.

Because he lost?

Eugenics
duhhhhhhhhhh

Actually China is already created Supermen.

Did Hitler lose?

Because what I remember is that the Soviet was planning on spreading through the entire wold. Men like old man Rockefeller who just died openly say they want a Maoist type government for the entire world.

Hitler redpilled the world on the Jew's plans and stopped Stalin. His country was like two American states. He was never going to beat the entire world with a few Germans.
We failed.
Not him

kek does that includes the jews who started the religion in the first place?

Found the kike

No they didn't. They've fucked themselves over real good. They've had a one child policy for a while now, only recently nixing it, and will have an entire generation of lonely, sexless faggots with not enough women to go around. China will implode.

How have you determined that humanity is doomed? Sounds like bullshit.

I think you need to go read some more.

reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/6khy2j/what_common_misconception_do_you_hate_to_hear/djmhta3/

Phew, now I can have sex with as many men as I like!

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Really bro?

Hitler never wanted to destroy the Jews. But the Jews were willing to destroy Germany and paint him as a devil… In the short term. But what they've done will never be forgotten, and nor will what he has done… And already, the tide begins to turn.
Already, not even a full century later, people are starting to see the kike for exactly what he is - exactly what Hitler told us they were.
This will progress further.
When large numbers of people begin to see the Jew, when they begin to realize that Hitler was no demon wishing the extinction of an innocent folk, but a hero of his people against an insidious monster which seeks now to rule all the world and wipe out an entire race - the very crime they used to demonize Hitler no less, the fools! - who was, if anything, perhaps too kind to his enemy, then he will have won truly and completely.

He faced an enemy, and offered mercy… He received none in return, but the echoes (no pun intended) of the deeds done on all sides will resound through history - and bring with them the doom of the Jewish people.

This nigger gets it.

WHY TALK ABOUT THE MAN YOU HAVE NEVER READ THIS MAKES ME REEE EVERYTIME.

t. Philosophy major.

Jesus Christ this thread.

NOTHING HAS BEEN LEARNED

Not just any show, kikeboy, but a show full of feminist bullshit, sexual deviancy, and historically inaccurate nonsense.

The Ubermensch isn't for humans at all, other than as a concept. It is beyond human, the next step in our evolution.

There is no fucking spirit, there is only money and not money. Get over these tired ass right-wing spooks.

I hate communist materialists so goddamn much.

So goddamn much you do nothing but type about it on the internet HAHAHAHAHAHAAH

That post said absolutely nothing that was not already said. I repeat: Really bro?

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We don't need xtianity. It's just one of the latest in a long line of copies of an original and corrupted idea. The idea that man's destiny and potential will remain unrealized until he can overcome the baser, animal aspects of himself. Death and resurrection. Transformation and realization. The idea is timeless and the desert messiah can and should be dropped in favor of a better representative and true understanding of the allegorical/astronomical life and death of the christ figure.
For thousands of years mankind has been striving for something better, for an understanding of the cosmos and nature and his role in it, perfecting philosophy, science and spirituality in harmony with one another, not opposition. In other words, evolution. Evolution shaped by our own hands. Literally creation.
And in 200 years it's been flushed down the drain in favor of this "we're all just monkeys so wallow in your own filth and have fun while you can" mentality and it's related ideologies. Ask any group of people what the meaning of life is and see how many say "to have fun". It's disgusting. Even timeless occult truths have been bastardized and co opted by hedonistic and self serving groups and individuals, changing forever the perception of these things as "evil". For fuck's sake, people can't even look at a spiral or a pyramid without thinking about muh pedos or muh Illuminati. Everything is turned on it's head. There is no discernment exercised whatsoever.
I find the idea that you should just leave things in God's hands extremely destructive. How many christcucks are sitting at home waiting for the fucking rapture instead of planning for the future and bettering themselves and their communities. The ayylmao newagers are just as bad. But instead of Jaysus, they're waiting for some ascended master to come save them in a 5th dimensional spaceship. They both sit at home, say some magical words and think they are going to be saved from this mess. They are dead wrong.
What's actually going on here is that you are being tricked into handing your will and ultimately your fate over to an entity outside of yourself. I think you'll see this is a pattern not only in religion and cults, but also law and banking (just to name a couple as there are endless examples). This is not an accident. It's all designed to undermine and destroy any control you would wield over your mind, body and spirit. To disconnect you from creation. To crush the divine spark within us all. It's the idea that God is waaaaaay over there and you are waaaaaay over here. That we are separate, subservient and ineffectual. This is utter bullshit and anyone pimping this idea is ignorant at best, completely evil and subversive at worst. It's the path to slavery of your soul. Unfortunately we now live in a world where slavery is comfy and intellectual curiosity is often derided and discouraged if it doesn't fall within what's considered (((mainstream))).

Your position in a nutshell.

I suggest y'all niggas read Crime and Punishment.

More context is useful for that second quote:

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The only accuracy of your interpretation of that post was the first line.

Your commentary was quite good, if somewhat woo-ish, and reminded me of vid related.

Checking hilariously appropriate/ironic digits.

Why though? I find Dostoevsky incredibly droll, and Crime and Punishment seems very mundane… In fact, more than mundane, just kind of retarded and/or uninteresting/unappealing: Am I wrong in suggesting the plot amounts to some Russian fuckwit getting convinced by religious guilt/pathologic altruism, and the wooing of a teenage prostitute "filled with Christian virtue", to confess to killing some old Jewish crone that he felt motivated to kill because he thought the voices in his head were telling him to do it (an act which could have been easily covered up by the point wherein it mattered, after he spends awhile acting like a Woody Allen-tier neurotic Jew-like creature about the situation), thus resulting in his deportation to gulag, whereupon the teen whore follows to presumably continue being a whore to survive while helping the protagonist come to terms with almost-if-not-literal Christcuckoldry, with some side plots about the protagonists' friends and family engaging in a all sorts of boring and retarded social drama bullshit?
Seriously, was this an anime? Because this sounds like a fucking anime.
And an only mildly good one at that.

heil'd
Good context.

Forgot my vid

You know, Dostoevsky heavily inspired Nietzsches works. I'd suggest you look up what he thought of him before you completely dismiss C&P.
Besides that, Sonia was not a terrible person and Rodian thinking of himself so highly is what got him in the situation to begin with.

Ideologies give structure to civilization; they unite peoples with similar goals to form bonds between individuals and thus create societies. For a society to exist, it's inhabitants need to be tied together by some semblance of likeness or similarity. Whether these similarities be in the form of those in which you identify closely with those who speak and look like you, or to those who believe in the organizing society and living the same way you do, the similarities between peoples unite them, and are thus ideological in nature.

A feudal society subsists solely because it has an ideological basis, a capitalist society is the same. Are you suggesting that anarchy is the only acceptable mode of civilization until we reach the status of the ubermensch?

Eh.
That's dumb, and you didn't answer my question, which was a genuine question, in both cases.

Don't mistake a value structure for an ideology. It's in the Primer mate.

Religion IS ideology.

actually that's the opposite of what I was implying

this

As in this websites primer? Or some book?

Either way, the two are nearly the same and only certain semantic facets differentiate the two, none of which can be applied to the context of this post. A value structure may be a less concrete version of an ideology, but the implication by the OP
is still the same; any system for regulating the agency of the individual in a larger society is tantamount to a perverted version of religion. My point remains, is then, anarchy the only acceptable state of a society until (if ever) man ascends to becoming overman? I take issue with that.