How common is racism, xenophobia and other spook are in your country ? its hard...

Jackson Richardson
Jackson Richardson

how common is racism, xenophobia and other spook are in your country ?
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Robert Bell
Robert Bell

Although this sounds like some /pol/ bait, there are genuine problems regarding racism (via legal terms) in Australia, with there being legitimate laws which can be used to deny Aboriginals the right to vote.

Most far right wing/ far left wing groups are looked at with disdain in Aus. One particular white nationalist (even Pauline Hanson) was made an absolute laughing stock.

As for race relations, they are far better here than they are in America. Most people believe that identity politics divide us rather than unite us.

As for the xenophobia, it's somewhat on the rise in regards to muslim immigration, but must of us are like "just take in the ones who can contribute, and send foreign aid and have some general inquiries into the detention centres etc"

It's not that big of a deal, we just get on with shit. Most of us would give a shit who you are or where you come from, you either pull your head in or fuck off. and I'm pretty g with that

Isaac Torres
Isaac Torres

I live in America - specifically Mississippi. People around me literally still say "colored" and "nigger".

The 12 year old son of my former boss is a nazi enthusiast that literally says "zeig heil" and "white power". He complains about his female teacher being a feminazi (ironically enough) and tells racist jokes to black people, even though they tell him not to.

My coworkers at that same job would talk about dressing up as the kkk and walking through black neighborhoods with burning crosses. Surprise, surprise, they're Trump supporters

I really wish I was making this up. I thought we were past all this, I never saw this kind of racism here growing up.

Josiah Miller
Josiah Miller

deny Aboriginals the right to vote.
aren't there like 3 of em left ?

why specifically aboriginal ?

Anthony Rogers
Anthony Rogers

Trump opened the flood gate,
i don't think there are more racists, they're just more open about it.
the internet and places like /pol/ gave it a push, a place to grow without repercussion, Trump brought it to the real world.

Daniel Ortiz
Daniel Ortiz

Why are liberals so hung up on race? If they created policies that helped poor people wouldn't those policies disproportionately help people of color because they are admittedly disproportionately poor… oh wait. Liberals hate those stupid proles.

Juan Ross
Juan Ross

not great on either side, since brexit the nativists are getting more confident and SJW deeply triggering and problematic policies are progressing too

Brayden Rogers
Brayden Rogers

racism has risen becaue of trump and brexit

Levi Evans
Levi Evans

isn't it the opposite ?

Liam Sanchez
Liam Sanchez

Probably but much of mainstream liberalism fundamentally disagrees with this idea.

Brandon Diaz
Brandon Diaz

lets say its a self sustaining trend

Colton Sanchez
Colton Sanchez

how common is racism, xenophobia and other spook are in your country ?

But countries are a spook

Easton Jenkins
Easton Jenkins

The 12 year old son of my former boss is a nazi enthusiast that literally says "zeig heil" and "white power". He complains about his female teacher being a feminazi (ironically enough) and tells racist jokes to black people, even though they tell him not to.

12 year old

Cooper Rivera
Cooper Rivera

The 12 year old son of my former boss is a nazi enthusiast that literally says "zeig heil" and "white power"

On the bright side he'll probably grow out of

t. former edgy racist teen

Cooper Diaz
Cooper Diaz

Netherlands here.

We got some against the muslims, obviously. And I dont deny they havent done anything to not deserve some of it

And then theres the whole think with black pete. Basically we have a celebration with pic related which has some minor ties to the times of colonialism, but he is a hired helped or the old man. It no longer has racist connections and the black dude is a beloved children icon. Its image has been stripped off some of the more racist stereotypes (gold hoop rings, big black lips etc) but we got america-inspired social justice warriors who want to do things like paint over 200 year old paintings because it depicts slavery and ban the beloved tradition of Sinterklaas altogether.

The official backstory everybody goes by is that pete is black because he goes through the chimney and never washes, but there is also the backstory that he was freed from slavers in marrocco by Saint Nick, and since then they and his family have been best friends and help him. (He calls them all pete because sint is sort of senile and doesnt remember names well).

The festivity is about bringing presents to children, or if they have been naughty, they will be beaten up by pete with a bundle of twigs and kidnapped in a sick, taken back to spain for a year.

Inb4 but das racist user
It has no connection to minstrel shows, which are a purely anglo phenomenon. The reason native dutch people dress up as pete is because there have historically (and still are) few black people in the Netherlands.

Mason Johnson
Mason Johnson

Belgium here
we just made it a "sootpete"
he's no longer just black and the bitching stopped

Connor Robinson
Connor Robinson

yea they are doing that here now too but some of them still think its not enough because "its inherently racist" and other groups want immediate 100% switching rather than gradual introduction.

Kevin King
Kevin King

Would it be racist if they hired an actual black person to be Black Pete?

Ryder Foster
Ryder Foster

I live in Serbia and funnily enough I don't think we are racist towards blacks or asians but we are discriminatory towards people we went to war against (Bosniaks, Croats, Albanians).
I think we are more homophobic than we are racist.

Jaxson Morales
Jaxson Morales

Nope, but some gorups will say "black pete working for Saint Nick is a white man dominating over a blackman iz racist"

It usually never happens though as all petes that appear on public tv are trained actors.

Angel Mitchell
Angel Mitchell

Serbia
Tito weeps in his grave over what has been done to Yugoslavia.

Brayden Hall
Brayden Hall

yeah, yugoslavia was in too much of a debt so we had to go to war and kill each other so other people get rich
makes perfect sense! /s

Nolan Jackson
Nolan Jackson

There are quite a few black people who also play Black Pete and still get facial paint as the colour they use is not really directly representable of a specific skin colour.

Lucas Mitchell
Lucas Mitchell

Plus, the reason we have an increasing amount of racism is quite simple;

- modern day pro-immigration and -multiculturalism points of view are capitalistic and not leftist
- the modern day left however has so strongly adopted both ideologies they are nowadays in an impossible position to actually criticize them. This did however happen in earlier time. See the Socialist Party with "Quest Workers and Capital" in 1982
- Most immigrants (and then we speak about 95+) that come here would, from our perspective, count as strong christian conservaties. For example, 75% of the Dutch-Turkisch population voted Erdogan.
- So, what happens is that the aversion of (modern day) immigration and multiculturalism increases and the country becomes more right wing et al. while left wing parties do not become bigger because immigrants will not become part of their electorate and simply don't vote (mostly) while indirectly supporting right wing ideologies.

Andrew Gomez
Andrew Gomez

What even is rascism? Is it only prejudice? Only discrimination?

I'm a native/national minority in the netherlands (Frisian) and did experience plenty of xenophobia from the dutch from their superiority complex and prejudice. But i take this more as light hearted banter and ignorance and dont really demand respect from them or anything. Its okay if you have some fun and banter but another if you are a straight up asshole about it. But those people usually get a punch in the face cause they are asking for it.

tbh i think raceism is super silly cause its bundeling a huge diversity of cultures and nationality's thoghetter and calling it one and judging them on that oneness. If someone would judge me for being white i would be insulted cause im not fucking dutch, french or american who too are white. Its also silly to judge all africans on being black when their ethnic and culture diversity is so huge. Its also like thinking that all asians are the same while ignoring the giant diffrinces in the chinese, japanese and the korean.

Oliver Flores
Oliver Flores

I hate niggers and the nigger dick sucking the left does.

Owen Lopez
Owen Lopez

Cool cool

Charles Hernandez
Charles Hernandez

No really
im ok with communism but I want my white country to remain white.

Landon Fisher
Landon Fisher

Cool cool

Josiah Perry
Josiah Perry

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I'm cool with the movement that abolishes nation states but I want my nation state to remain majority my favorite folk race category

Caleb Baker
Caleb Baker

Paradise is Missisppi

Carson Barnes
Carson Barnes

"colored"
I thought that was the approved SJW term now

or is "colored people" different from "people of color"

Matthew Cooper
Matthew Cooper

he likely got it from his father or some other member of his close family, i doubt he'll grow out of it.
he'll learn to hide it at best

John Hall
John Hall

Frisian.
made me google, i didn't know that existed. fascinating.

tbh i think it also include the "light banter", its ok to get some bants once in a while but when you get it daily its just bulling.
the thing is, many white people who arent necessarily racist or xenophobic will give you that "light banter" thinking that its funny, completely forgetting that you already got "bantz" 50 that day.

that shit builds up, and there is a fine line between bants and bulling

Ian Hall
Ian Hall

I'm a native/national minority in the netherlands (Frisian)
Frisians arent a real ethnicity silly ;)

Most of coastal holland is fries ethnically

Also

Being "Hollands" is a constructed ethnicity from medieval times, western, souther netherlands and all vlamingen are frankish, and the east is saxon, while friesland and the coastal region of the netherlands are frisian

Justin Stewart
Justin Stewart

"people of color" is acceptable, "colored" is not
I just go with it, not a good hill to die on

John Powell
John Powell

Canadian here. Racism is probably less common here compared to US and Europe but lots of Canadians will outright deny there's any problems with racism up here at all whatsoever. People here are so arrogant about Canada "being liberal" that they'll shut their eyes to any social issues that contradicts their narrative of Canada being multicultural utopia as opposed to those dirty racist americunts

Adrian Lewis
Adrian Lewis

I live in Burgerland, but I'm ethnically from Northern Sudan.

There's practically no racism there since it's a pretty culturally homogeneous society. It would be a bit more accurate to say that the "racism" here is what you'd call "colorism". Which basically means the lighter your skin tone is, the more desired you are in almost every function of society, but this applies almost exclusively to women. They'd have an easier time finding a husband, getting a job as a news anchor etc. Whitening creams over there sell like wildfire. We're basically just like the Chinese and Indians in terms of this whole skin color thing.

However, racism over there is becoming more apparent now because of the Syrian and Iraqi refugees that immigrated there. A distant relative of mine that lives in the capital told me that the locals are expressing very extreme anti-Syrian and Iraqi refugee sentiment. Openly calling them "leeching cockroaches" and get harassed and beaten in public. This was very shocking, because I always thought since Northerners were "arabized" they would treat anyone who spoke Arabic and was Muslim, would be treated equally, but I was dead wrong.

The only other spooky phenomenon I can think of is homophobia - it's quite prevalent over there. Significant amount of my own family are.

Adrian Adams
Adrian Adams

Chasing pale skin isnt racism, but classism mate. Europe had the same thing before industrialisation.

The paler you are the more you show that you are rich and thus dont have to work in the fields. Its a signifier of wealth.

Andrew Rogers
Andrew Rogers

Nah, I didn't mean to imply that it was racism, just that it's used to a way to determine an individual's value. Which I think is pretty fucking spooky, m8.

While you're right that paler skin is a symbol of upper class in other parts of the world (Japan's Burakumin for example) it mostly just a symbol of beauty, since Sudan isn't divided by a class hierarchy, only tribes.

Daniel Sanders
Daniel Sanders

i'm really confused about this trend tbh.
i have to travel allot for my work and i'v been to many countries.
"bleaching" is wide spread in countries like India, China, Korea, south east Asia and some sub-Saharian African countries.
oddly its non existent in MENA and south American, no one gives a damn there.

i'm not exactly sure whats the deal here.

as for white people, none of the guys i know think that pale is more attractive.
a nice south European tan is considered attractive an healthy.
same thing goes for women.
a light tan is better than a ghost

Isaac Harris
Isaac Harris

for honkies in europe and america tanning came into vogue with coco chanel I think

it's the same thing, really. you have the leisure time to sit out in the sun and tan when most proles are spending the majority of their time inside and working

pale is more attractive in general to me imo, but that's just personal preference, and really it depends on the girl

Zachary Sanders
Zachary Sanders

i guess it also depends if its a tan or a perma-tan.
still, why does this trend exist in some places and not others ?

Ethan Reyes
Ethan Reyes

US here, institutional racism is a very real thing. We have abominable policies which discriminate against the very people that single handily built this nation; these manifest in laws that uphold affirmative action(against whites), racial hiring quotas (against whites), racial based scholarships (except for whites), various "civil rights" groups (except nobody is allowed to represent whites).

So I'm glad white identity politics is finally rising to counter this institutionalized racism.

Oh, and if you think your "ideology" is going to overcome the insurmountable social strife caused by racial diversity, you're basically a fucking idiot, and you'll just be larping on this board forever.

Camden Jones
Camden Jones

If I had to guess it would be because of the social prestige honkies have in most of the rest of the world. If you're white, well dressed, and speak english, chances are you're probably a wealthy American. I've heard rumors too of Chinese companies hiring good looking white people just to sit in their offices and pretend to be working, because having an American/European executive in their company is considered very prestigious.

In Malcolm X's autobiography he rants for a while about "conking," which nigras did to lighten and straighten their hair in imitation of white people.

There are plenty of other historical instances too of, say, middle class bourgeois types imitating aristocratic modes and affectations. Even among the aristocracy, less prestigious nobles imitated more prestigious ones, which in particular helped the spread of Christianity as pagan kings tried to tie themselves closer to the prestigious Frankish courts.

So for all intents and purposes, crackers are the global "prestige class," and even while tanned they're generally whiter than just about everyone except East Asians, which themselves are also very wealthy and prestigious. So the global trend is toward lightening, while lower-class whites imitate the upper, leisure-class whites that have the time to just lie around in the sun all day.

Henry James
Henry James

you're so busy masturbating over the fact that you have pink nipples that you didn't notice that Asians have it worse while being not as criminal as your fellow white.

yet you don't see them running in the street calling for a genocide, nor circle jerk about how "superior" they are.

it really makes you think.

ps: MENA people are considered white in the US, just to trigger you :^)

Jayden Stewart
Jayden Stewart

i think that trend is much older than that and has nothing to do with American or any European.
asian women used to cver themselves with rice powder to look more white (i don't mean white as in white European).
i think whiteness in those culture was seen as a symbol of purity and wealthiness.
while being dark was seen as poor and filthy

Nathan Diaz
Nathan Diaz

It's probably since if you were pale, it meant you didn't work in the fields all day with the sun beating down on you.

Ryder Morales
Ryder Morales

What's MENA?

Josiah Perez
Josiah Perez

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Racism against people of afro heritage… even I have held a few racist ideas out of a dumb personal grievance. There's racism against indigenous too, they are seen as "annoying" and people feel they should just stfu and take it in the ass.

It's very clear there's systemic institutional racism in my country. There's racism against Asians too and I've heard story of people being demeaned for it for doing absolutely nothing.

My country is weird fam… people are irrelevant shited.. they have blood from indigenous and from Africa… but they're racist against it.

Jordan Reyes
Jordan Reyes

actually quite rare™compared with other parts of the world

people here only hate gypsies and transsexuals

Kayden Morales
Kayden Morales

middle east, north africa
Italy ?

Carter Johnson
Carter Johnson

Isn't racism just a meme?

Cooper Hall
Cooper Hall

Everything is a meme.

Hudson Smith
Hudson Smith

That's not really true nowadays with industrialization and what not, and never really was for countries with brown people (because everyone was brown and staying at home didn't make you any less brown).

Parker Edwards
Parker Edwards

pointing wholes in your arguments
not an argument
You can keep denying reality, it won't change facts

Thomas Morris
Thomas Morris

holes*
ffs

Hudson Foster
Hudson Foster

I live in israel and it's pretty bad tbh. it's like people here have learned from American PC culture that racism is bad, but because there never really was a meaningful anti-racist struggle in Israel, they never internalized this anti-racism so racism for them is just this thing they heard was bad but they're not really sure what it is. As a result there are never good debates about it. I heard people all the time say stuff like "I'm not racist, but I hate Arabs" or "hating Russians is not racism because I'm totally justified in my hatred of Russians". Generally it's pretty common, too. People here are spooked a lot because of religion, too (not necessarily by religion, though), and this complicated stuff (the tribalism implied by Judaism makes everyone more and less racist at the same time. More racists - because it's still tribalism; less racist - because it's just ancient spooks and not really anything related to what modern racism means). But by American or European standards, yeah, there's a ton more of racism, with large portions of the population supporting limiting the legal rights of Arabs or other groups.

With homophobia it's a little different. There's relatively a lot of acceptance to homosexuality by most of the public, even though the really religious are very hostile to it (last year one of them stabbed like 6 people at a pride parade).

Jose Foster
Jose Foster

surprising, you'd think that jewish people more than anyone would know how terrible racism is.

btw how can they tell who's arab and who isn't ?
both are Semite.

Benjamin Sanchez
Benjamin Sanchez

implying semitic race is a thing
You can tell by how people look (usually Palestinian Arabs look different from middle eastern Jews. dunnoh why), their names, and their accent.

There's also this type of patronizing racism towards Ethiopian Jews. Like "it's true that you suffer from discrimination and we're all very supportive of you in your struggle against, but shut up and don't make too much noise about it".

Landon Gomez
Landon Gomez

implying Schlomos like Ashkenazis look like Arabs

Joshua Cruz
Joshua Cruz

"I'm not racist, but I hate Arabs" or "hating Russians is not racism because I'm totally justified in my hatred of Russians".
Kek'd softly

Adrian Nguyen
Adrian Nguyen

Israel-Palestine Conflict is just about Palestinians wanting the land which was stolen from them to be given back and the Israelis want a pure Jewish land. Zionism is built upon Jewish supremacy ,this creates conflicts between jews as they all think they come from the original Jewish tribe even though there ethnicity is obviously Slavic, Western European, East African.

Automatically similarly to America and Manifest Destiny Zionism and Israel has had a stark effect. As Israel is built upon being land of the Jews ignoring native. Paralleling America and how they wanted a land for Protestantism to thrive and have a pure white christian paradise.

A counter-argument maybe that Palestinians are anti-semetic (even though Arabic is a semetic language) therefore deserve this. Perhaps yes although I remember my grandma who is from Algeria before president Boumedienne came to power in Algeria Jews and Muslims lived side by side and unlike in European countries where whole towns wouldn't know each other in Algeria there was a sense of community. She also said jews were the best cooks although the anti-semitism grew post-colonially as well because Jews where french citizens but Muslims were second-class citizens.I am assuming during Ottoman rule the relation between Jews and Muslims I assume were the same.

Apologies if I offended the guy that lives in Israel
Would appreciate a reply

Zachary Carter
Zachary Carter

Less common than xenophilia among fellow leftists tbh. As a trade union supporter this late trend of being pro-immigration is rather concerning.

Andrew Brooks
Andrew Brooks

I used to live in Israel, in the Palestinian side of Nazareth. (I'm neither Jewish nor Arab, btw.)

You won't believe (or maybe you will) how many totally woke Tel Aviv hipsters would freak out when they found out I lived around Arabs.

Jace Bennett
Jace Bennett

usually Palestinian Arabs look different from middle eastern Jews. dunnoh why
literally the first pic when i googled "israeli man"
here is the article related to the pic btw timesofisrael.com/lovesick-israeli-man-who-faked-west-bank-kidnapping-apologizes/
i see literally no difference between him and any other middle eastern.

their names, and their accent.

sounds more likely

Hunter Stewart
Hunter Stewart

There's also this type of patronizing racism towards Ethiopian Jews

Patronizing Racism? Kek. They fucking sterilised them without their knowledge, they

Carson Barnes
Carson Barnes

What do you mean?

Adrian Walker
Adrian Walker

Lurk more newfriend, I recommend abstaining from posting until you fully understand the way imageboards work.

Isaiah Long
Isaiah Long

i think Israel's case is different.
its defacto an ethno-state built exclusively for jewish people and is technically still at war with its neighbor and the previous land owners who happen to be Arab

Isaac Jones
Isaac Jones

Brazil?

Nolan Parker
Nolan Parker

bump

Juan Bailey
Juan Bailey

It's pretty spooky here.

Jason Howard
Jason Howard

Yup. Brazil is retarded, it never emphasizes race (which it never does indeed) and Brazil posits how inclusive, tolerant, multicultural, respectful it's (which is a real effort, the constitution is progressive) but there's a discreet racism/prejudice looming in the background of the society and it's pretended to not be there.

I myself have seen a muslim getting harassed in the street. Shouting at the woman. Fortunately other bystanders raised up and insulted the asshole as filho da puta.

Joshua Stewart
Joshua Stewart

UAE here. There is racism here undoubtedly, however class division outweighs it by a lot. Upper class is Arabs and white immigrants mostly. But many Arabs here marry with Pakistanis and Africans.

However you have some of immigrant workers who are Slavic and they are not given special treatment for that.

Zachary Allen
Zachary Allen

Irrelevant, but the important thing is to push the myth of racism, xenophobia, and various other negative platitudes. Marxism demands it.

Christopher Collins
Christopher Collins

So what's the deal with migrant labourers there anyway? I hear that in Saudi Arabia foreign construction workers, maids and nannies are basically slaves, but I don't really know shit about the UAE.

Leo Perry
Leo Perry

And I have to extend Brazil might be like that, until a pile of shit is took over them, as late 90's early 00's period, then it dawns on brazilians how fucked up its, there's resounding noise on how to overturn it. Particularly in relation to getting a different position with other partners and not being so easily struck by Washington

They realize they have to tread a different path because they'll never be accepted as cowboys.

Aaron Rodriguez
Aaron Rodriguez

In the hellhole that i live in slavery "yeah old fashion slavery with just some added bureaucracy" is the backbone of the blue collar labor and services exclusively by both cultural pressure and law.
They are both blamed for everything bad about this hellhole and feared for being overwhelmingly large in population "as they say".

2 effects of this standouts :
1- Any Proletariat revolt will be easily labeled as a "immigrants riots" .
2- Killing any chance of native revolution being related to the workers struggle.

Ian Ramirez
Ian Ramirez

Is it true that that Brazil is top-tier in Marxology of the connection between Hegel's Science of Logic and Marx's Kapital?

I heard this from Zizek so it must be true

Asher Baker
Asher Baker

What I know is that Brazil has a lot of academics from Marx current.

Though the parties who are considered leftists here are really just socdems.

Hunter Bailey
Hunter Bailey

France here. There is no institutional racism except from affirmative action.

Matthew Watson
Matthew Watson

Representational and assimilationist politics is literally retarded. It doesn't work and only fuels racism/tribalism even more

Tyler Gray
Tyler Gray

Netherlands here.

Homophobia is uncommon except in strict religious households.

Racism based on skin color is a no go most of the time.

However, racism based on religion is pretty common. Muslim immigrants are looked down upon.

The neoliberal cuts and the refugees are a dangerous combination. People feel the neoliberal cuts and that they have been screwed over. The refugees are used as scapegoat by right-wing parties to defend their own austerity policy.

Austin Cox
Austin Cox

Kraut here. How deep are the neoliberal cuts in the Netherlands? In Germany we have shitty wages and our pension scheme is basically destroyed and most people here view the Netherlands as slightly better off with slightly better wages.

James Sanders
James Sanders

The refugees are used as scapegoat
Bullshit.

If the refugees were actually the great people they advertised them as then it would be impossible to use them as scapegoats.

Carson Nelson
Carson Nelson

user, pls.
good luck finding a job if your name is Achmed

i'm pretty familiar with France. and i have to say, you're partly correct.
there is no real racism, but culturism.

you can be Asian, black, or arab, if you have a French name you'll do fine.
but if you have an exotic (non European) name you're gonna have a hard time, bonus point if its arab
you can look as white as possible, people will just treat you differently.

Hunter Moore
Hunter Moore

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If the refugees were actually the great people they advertised them as then it would be impossible to use them as scapegoats.

There are people who believe homosexuality causes natural disasters.

And no one ever said refugees are "great", just not… you know, literally evil.

Chase Jenkins
Chase Jenkins

tbh, i think the problem is everywhere. including migrants themselves (some of them) who downright refuse to assimilate, this is particularly common among muslim migrants.

the immigration policy should be fixed.
if you don't intend to be part of society than you should find somewhere else to go.

interestingly, it recently came to my knowledge than in islam it was haram to move to an "infidel" country
go figure !

Thomas Jenkins
Thomas Jenkins

Well, I think a big part of the problem is that societies these people are moving to don't even have any place in them for people who were born there. The capitalist system has developed a large class of people who are unwanted, unneeded and largely excluded from the formal economy - one that is continually growing, mind you. Is it any surprise that the people with the least connections, least assets, least language skills and knowledge of the culture would immediately get shuffled into this superfluous class?

Shit, children are coming out of school with no prospects and barely even enough McJobs for all of them - when native youth aren't getting integrated, what fucking chance do immigrants have?

Josiah White
Josiah White

In Germany we have shitty wages
Lol, no you don't, at least not in relative terms..

no one ever said refugees are "great"
Yes they did. the 'doctors and engineers' meme is real.

Landon Hill
Landon Hill

It's pretty foolhardy to use formal policy to fix what is caused by human behavior that is hard to predict. Liberals have failed to fix the problem because they have not actually tried to, they just throw welfare services at them from a distance because, like rightkids, they are secretly afraid of them. There has been little attempt to build bridges with an alienated community.

Interestingly, a good example of this is in the US, where Muslim immigrants are extremely more likely to fit into communities than in Europe.

Julian Adams
Julian Adams

Yes they did. the 'doctors and engineers' meme is real.
I don't think calling something a meme invalidates it.

Joshua Rogers
Joshua Rogers

Interestingly, a good example of this is in the US, where Muslim immigrants are extremely more likely to fit into communities than in Europe.
your validating my point.
you don't get in the US just like that (except for Mexicans), there are strict immigration policies.
the second thing is that unlike Europe, the US is an immigration country, there is no real defined local culture.

Aaron Mitchell
Aaron Mitchell

It is fairly clear that the concentration of highly-educated professionals among the migrants is much lower than claimed.

Kevin Perez
Kevin Perez

I'd say US immigration policies are more pragmatic than strict. "Open borders" and "closed borders" are a false dichotomy, not even an anarchist society would be perfectly welcoming if some monarchists wanted to move into their territory.
the second thing is that unlike Europe, the US is an immigration country, there is no real defined local culture.
Bullshit, there is absolutely defined culture in the US, at least insofar as culture can be defined.

Claimed by who? Tumblr? No one cares.

Brayden Edwards
Brayden Edwards

In Britain, liberal journals and even the BBC, a state-owned company, continue to idealise migrants as highly-educated model citizens. The propaganda is probably even more intense in countries like Germany that actually let them in. I don't know why you insist on denying this.

bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-37446838
independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/refugee-crisis-meeting-the-desperate-and-the-hopeful-on-the-1300-mile-trail-from-turkey-to-hungary-a6672771.html
theguardian.com/cities/2016/may/03/malta-migration-crisis-doctor-artist-engineer-blogger-human-stories-

Nathaniel Davis
Nathaniel Davis

So an out of print online newspaper, a liberal shitrag and a single article from the BBC proves what? What are you responding to?

Let's not pretend the vast majority of TV, print and online journalism in the UK isn't rabid hatemongering against the poor, sick and unemployed, with migrants bound to hit the list the moment they're in the country.

Nicholas Evans
Nicholas Evans

Okay, so, what proof do you have that this is wrong?

Carson Barnes
Carson Barnes

Brazil has a lot of great academics. But the modern day left here is really out of touch with the masses. We just had municipal elections in Rio, and after the candidate from PSOL (a social-democracy party) lost, the "academic leftists" reacted by claiming the people were stupid for not voting for him. The pic is a "left wing" magazine and it reads "Poor Brazilian People: the municipal elections prove its incapability of acting politically and understanding that the "coup-ers" are victimizing it. And poor Brazil". This of course ignores the fact that more people protest voted than actually voted for the winning candidate, proving people are tired of the "democratic" process and its inability to give them what they need.
Tldr: out of touch intelectuals are the worst type of leftits.

Jayden Watson
Jayden Watson

Lol, no you don't, at least not in relative terms..
We have the biggest low wage sector in Europe and living in a big city (<200k inhabitants) is almost impossible when earning minimum wage - even in the outer suburbs.
You can have a good life in smaller towns or maybe in the East though where rents aren't skyrocketing yet.

But as a student who is somehow forced to live in a city it's really hard to make ends meet and I live a lot off crappy can food a lot.

Parker Smith
Parker Smith

i kinda agree with you, but i think it started a bit before trump. I'd say overt racism started coming back during the Zimmerman trials. Trump was only able to get this far because of people that hold racist beliefs.

Joseph Miller
Joseph Miller

It has no connection to minstrel shows, which are a purely anglo phenomenon

it has no connection to minstrel shows!
therefore black pete is not a racist caricature

Daniel Flores
Daniel Flores

1021099

Jeremiah Cooper
Jeremiah Cooper

1021099
ttt

Evan Rogers
Evan Rogers

I don't know, I can tell this guy is Jewish and not an Arab. Maybe it's because I grew up with those folk.

I meant the attitude of the common people, not the government.

also I actually think the sterilization thing is not as big as they make it out to be

surprising, you'd think that jewish people more than anyone would know how terrible racism is.
If you bring that up they'll either get mad that you implicitly compare them to Nazis and make the argument all about how wrong it is of you to bring that up, or they'll just give you a blank "but it's different when we do it" without explaining further.

Carter Ross
Carter Ross

black people shout random racist stuff at me on the bus.

Caleb Moore
Caleb Moore

yet you don't see them running in the street calling for a genocide, nor circle jerk about how "superior" they are

Robert Gonzalez
Robert Gonzalez

how common is racism, xenophobia and other spook are in your country ?
Those words are spooks. God dammit OP.

Jayden Myers
Jayden Myers

Although this sounds like some /pol/ bait, there are genuine problems regarding racism (via legal terms) in Australia, with there being legitimate laws which can be used to deny Aboriginals the right to vote.
Part abo here.

That's nonsense. We hate how liberals are now exploiting us to promote ideologies for porky.

Eli Ward
Eli Ward

Part abo here
You are a fucking liar

Ian Baker
Ian Baker

No I'm not. I wish I was sometimes because god dammit they are a pain in the ass to deal with.

Oh and that said, I probably don't look abo, yet have more genes than those that do. Recessive genes are odd.

Brody Gonzalez
Brody Gonzalez

honestly I only know about abos from my time on /pol/ Apparently they have a 40 Autism Level and are all ugly as fuck. That true?

Liam Torres
Liam Torres

Apparently they have a 40 Autism Level and are all ugly as fuck.
Pretty much.
They have perception that I don't think other races have.
Some have Autism Levels of 60 yet can still call out this bullshit. Mines more than double so I guess I'm 'blessed'
Some are ugly as fuck. I don't know how they deal with that.

Luke Carter
Luke Carter

Autism Levels of 60
I fucking hate these word-filters. Intelligence is objective. Not subjective.

Daniel Nguyen
Daniel Nguyen

damn dude, that is fucking sad. Do you consider them (and yourself I suppose) as less than human?

Tyler Roberts
Tyler Roberts

IQ is a proper measure of intelligence
IQ is not a subjective measure, and Autism Level test results cannot vary on a life long, even day to day basis

Gabriel Anderson
Gabriel Anderson

Do you consider them (and yourself I suppose) as less than human?
No.

Do I consider any other race as "non-homo sapien"? Definitely not.
Because otherwise I wouldn't have been born.

Race is still important and distinguishable though. We can't simply "push them all together" and expect them to cooperate. Humans are very visual/cultural based creatures.
We still need national boundaries in a globalized world.

Aaron Long
Aaron Long

IQ is not a subjective measure
It isn't. Autism Level is accurate for working out logic and complex mathematics and problem solving.
It's not full-proof - but it is useful.

Needs more testing of perception and likewise though. It's not sufficient enough and needs new thinking.
But to say it's not objective is plain denial of differences in people's ability to problem solve logically.

I think abos have traits unique to them. But they still lack Autism Level. I know that personally. I can do maths that are beyond comprehension for say .. my abo grandmother.

Adrian Jones
Adrian Jones

fool proof

Henry Moore
Henry Moore

ah, silly me :^) you cunt.

Ryder Adams
Ryder Adams

Do I consider any other race as "non-homo sapien"? Definitely not.

Well I don't mean scientifically human, I mean in the sense that if they can function properly in civilized society

What would you do with them? Force the, back into the bush?

Tyler Lopez
Tyler Lopez

I mean in the sense that if they can function properly in civilized society
I'm saying that's why the Autism Level method needs updating.
IQ is good for measuring logical capabilities. But boongs don't have that. They do have perception though.

Furthermore.. the difference isn't large enough to "ditch them". They can be brought up to speed.. but I fear not without some form of gene mod.

In fact - I think their perception needs to be added to other races too.

Michael Sanders
Michael Sanders

Black people say hi to me and I have great conversations with them.

:^)

Cameron Smith
Cameron Smith

i know you're retarded but you shouldn't be such a shit

there are lots of non-native english speakers here and something like "full-proof" is an easy mistake to make

Matthew Anderson
Matthew Anderson

I meant that otherwise “liberal” and “tolerant” Tel Aviv hipsters would reveal their racist insides when they learned I don’t share their hatred of Arabs.

David Cox
David Cox

Get the fuck over it.

God.. do I have to spellcheck shitposts too now?

Thomas Jenkins
Thomas Jenkins

Ellipses have three periods.

Jackson Stewart
Jackson Stewart

Fug ovv

Michael Cox
Michael Cox

Trump opened the floodgates
ignoring the rioting and useless destruction that black people were doing over ferguson and Baltimore

SHIGGYDIGGY

Inb4 you leftards try to tell me that they were justified in literally destroying their own communities over a single "injustice".Even IF you think that what happened with Mike Brown and the other dindus was unjust, even you fuckers gotta agree that the riots were way out of line, and that it effectively opened the floodgates to judge blacks more openly. You know what those riots did? It proved the points of the racists. The riots made it hard to defend black people against what they say. They further justified their own racism, and Black people have no one to blame but themselves for it.

Wyatt Stewart
Wyatt Stewart

Inb4 you leftards try to tell me that they were justified in literally destroying their own communities over a single "injustice".
We had something similar in Kalgoorlie Australia.

I and many others like me were furious at the "glorious uprising".

Zachary Phillips
Zachary Phillips

Ok that's a new filter.

Jaxson Reyes
Jaxson Reyes

What was the original word(s)?

Jack Lopez
Jack Lopez

This coming from the person who's board organised protests, who's far right wing views cause more frequent terrorism than Islamic terror within the west.

And if you honestly think that BLM is causing more racism (considering the fact they did burn down their own neighbourhoods), as opposed to the liberals using idpol, which create fuckwits like you who sperg out on other sites outside of the chans, you're deluded.

If you don't think your """justified""" rage for the shit that's happening to white people is any different from that of BLM, you can also fuck off.

Far right wingers are the biggest hypocrites, and are as """subhuman""" as the people they mock.

Matthew Wright
Matthew Wright

they act racist, so I must act racist

Yeah, because that's going to solve everything, isn't it stormfag?

And to back up my claims of right wing terrorism,

Joanna Plucinska (June 25, 2016). "Study: White Extremists More Dangerous Than Islamists Since 9/11"

And while this may have changed recently, it pretty much puts you on par with the Muslims you hate.

Carson Sanders
Carson Sanders

Muslims have committed as much terrorism as whites despite being far less numerous
Really makes you think.

Evan James
Evan James

people with radical beliefs have committed radical acts

really makes me scratch my noggin.

what is the Quillam foundation

who are the 5000 muslims serving the Pentagon

who are the Rojavans?

Caleb Jones
Caleb Jones

I live in Canada. My city is largely segregated, (white people usually live on the southern end, whilst minorities live in the north side) so it's hard for me to tell what race relations are like here.
Whenever I asked what my parents thought of the city's unspoken segregation, they always tell me "I guess people like to stay with their own kind". So I don't really know what to think for me.

Hudson Davis
Hudson Davis

"far right wing views" don't do shit. Far right ring views aren't the cause of detroit and chicago's high crime rate, now is it?

Islamic "terrorism" isn't even the biggest threat from Islam anyway, but it's not like you'll ever comprehend how insidious Islam truly is.

More like

They act exactly how the racist KKK views blacks, so maybe the KKK DO have some sort of merit in what they're saying.

Essentially, blacks are seriously red pilling people about blacks.

Am I saying that all blacks are savages? No. I'm just saying that, however, when a large enough group of people act bad, you're gonna get looked as potentially being bad due to being in this group. For example, say, a family moves into your neighborhood. A family of 24 people, full of cousins and siblings and such. Let's say that 16 of these people were involved in a lot of bad crimes in your neighborhood. Would you not say, "man, that family sure is fucked up and horrible". Even though it isn't 100% of the family doing the crimes, enough of them did it for you to just lump the rest of more innocent family members with the shit heads.

That's how it is with black people, essentially.

Jason Howard
Jason Howard

forgetting what I said about radical people who are that way having been exposed to radical ideas.

implying poverty, single motherhood, shitty living conditions, shitty education, and thug culture haven't influenced this shit.

ok

Islamic "terrorism" isn't even the biggest threat from Islam anyway, but it's not like you'll ever comprehend how insidious Islam truly is.

implying I'm not aware of the heirarchal tenants of fundamentalist Islam contains

implying I'm unaware of the Muslims like Maajid Nawaz and Ayaan Al Hisri who are advocating for reform and secularism along with the Quillam foundation.

not knowing about the Kurdish people of Rojava who advocate for womans liberation and are fighting ISIS.

uh huh

They act exactly how the racist KKK views blacks, so maybe the KKK DO have some sort of merit in what they're saying.

Essentially, blacks are seriously red pilling people about blacks.

red pill

WEW LAD

Am I saying that all blacks are savages? No. I'm just saying that, however, when a large enough group of people act bad, you're gonna get looked as potentially being bad due to being in this group. For example, say, a family moves into your neighborhood. A family of 24 people, full of cousins and siblings and such. Let's say that 16 of these people were involved in a lot of bad crimes in your neighborhood. Would you not say, "man, that family sure is fucked up and horrible". Even though it isn't 100% of the family doing the crimes, enough of them did it for you to just lump the rest of more innocent family members with the shit heads.

Well on that we can agree.

That's how it is with black people, essentially.

I happen to live next to an African community (albeit I'm in Aus), and I get along with them fine.

I wouldn't really know if this view about blacks applies world wide.

Leo Bell
Leo Bell

deny Aboriginals the right to vote

But that's probably a good thing, considering they would probably vote for the clerk in Liquorland if he promised to knocked a dollarydoo or two off a cask of Mosey for them

Justin Turner
Justin Turner

Then by that logic we should deny right wingers the right to vote. Will probably privatise everything and cause another recession.

Or we should deny left wingers the vote, because they'd "lead us into communism, and give the workers rights!"

try again, lad.

Liam Cook
Liam Cook

tenants
Forgive me for being a dick, but I see this mistake all the time and it triggers the shit out of me. You mean 'tenets'.

Jason James
Jason James

Then by that logic we should deny right wingers the right to vote

No shit. Democracy is a meme for cucks. The sooner we elect Rodrigo Duterte as eternal leader and throw the rest of the politicians out of a helicopter, the better.

Jackson Gutierrez
Jackson Gutierrez

electing Duterte

Yeah nah, I'd prefer anarchy over a totalitarian nut job who likens himself to Hitler thank you.

Samuel Lewis
Samuel Lewis

Joanna Plucinska (June 25, 2016). "Study: White Extremists More Dangerous Than Islamists Since 9/11"
( ( (Joanna Plucinska ) ) )

Like pottery

Kayden Mitchell
Kayden Mitchell

Well you're obviously a backward Melbournian Bohemian who never experienced the joy of growing up in Queensland under the firm but fair junta of Joh-Bjelke Petersen.

Cooper Hughes
Cooper Hughes

Matter of fact, I'm actually a sydney dweller who has lived most of his life overseas.

I've gone to totalitarian countries before, and they're miserable.

Again, I would prefer not to

Jacob Kelly
Jacob Kelly

they'll just give you a blank "but it's different when we do it" without explaining further.
been there.
i think deep down they know it, they just don't want to admit to themselves that they're terrible people

Colton Russell
Colton Russell

no you bum.
islam is a spook, a guy killing for islam isn't

Sebastian Ross
Sebastian Ross

creepy as fuck

Isaiah James
Isaiah James

I'm from the UK and racism isn't as big a problem as it used to be, but it's certainly on the rise. That said, I do have friends who joke about pakibashing and one who thinks that the refugee crisis is essentially Muslims invading the West.

Bentley Perez
Bentley Perez

Fuck off we're full.

Gavin Jenkins
Gavin Jenkins

Proof because there has been no actual rise in racism recorded at all.

Adrian Anderson
Adrian Anderson

There's been a rise in hate crime
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-37278903
theguardian.com/society/2016/sep/07/hate-surged-after-eu-referendum-police-figures-show
independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/brexit-hate-crime-racism-eu-referendum-poland-islam-more-in-common-a7231836.html
standard.co.uk/news/uk/official-huge-rise-in-racist-hate-crime-in-the-uk-after-brexit-a3368061.html

Carter Wilson
Carter Wilson

tbh i don't give a damn if people hold racist views as long as they keep them to themselves and not go harassing people like this bum youtube.com/watch?v=xFCg6E30Npk&feature

truly deplorable

Jack Brown
Jack Brown

Not him, but I'm not too sure about the guardian at this point.

That being said, I wouldn't dispute that.

Ayden White
Ayden White

No, they've risen in response to multiculturalism.

Ethan Sanders
Ethan Sanders

Yeah dude, Trump and Brexit has no connection with far right wingers being compelled to spit out racist views.

I mean you don't think /pol/ is serious, right?

Tyler Robinson
Tyler Robinson

bump

Isaiah Myers
Isaiah Myers

in ireland during our first rise in immigration from poland the "they took our jobs" sentiment was quite common, and there was a lot of "go back to your own country" type stuff said. as time went on we realised the poles are basically the same as us and the sentiment gradually dissipated aside from some fringe reactionaries.

more african and muslim migration has happened recently and whilst the general racist views you'll find anywhere in the world are directed towards these groups here too, i would say it's on a very small level. Ireland left wing is shattered and abject, but at the same time we have no far right and no desire for one. Our UKIP or Trump equivalent, Identity Ireland, has like 100 hundreds members and got BTFO by Antifa the last time they tried a rally with Pegida. There's no desire for such xenophobia here at this stage in time at least.

being perceived as a terrorist or leach upon society is a concept very familiar to us as a nation, and even our youth who haven't experienced such thing first hand, will naturally have a higher degree of empathy and understanding for our immigrant comrades.

Ignorance and lack of sensitivity is probably pretty common but there isn't any malice in this a lot of the time. this will improve as our immigrants become increasingly wove into the fabric of our society. I went to a secondary school with something like 39 different nationalities. that's huge for ireland, things will change socially here pretty soon.

mutl

Austin Turner
Austin Turner

thats nice to hear.
how is the Irishexit going on ?

Nicholas Carter
Nicholas Carter

Seeing all the stuff from other countries, and remembering France, Spain does pretty well on that.

Benjamin Thomas
Benjamin Thomas

multiculturalism is simply the lack of official authority determining which arbitrary plots of land are allowed to have which cultures within them. Being against multiculturalism has exactly one possibility, and that is ethnic nationalism.

Isaiah Jones
Isaiah Jones

you mean France and Spain are racist too ?

Eli James
Eli James

France is, Spain isn't, for some reason this country is impervious to the aut-right.

Hunter Reed
Hunter Reed

as in exit from the EU? If so it's not going at all tbh. Absolutely no one calling for it.

Though it does open up interesting divisions regarding Northern Ireland

Isaac Reyes
Isaac Reyes

1036513
fuck off /pol/, there are plenty of examples of rural whites doing the exact same thing

Carson Wilson
Carson Wilson

how about the exit from UK ?
well Spain is a pretty colored country, it would be difficult to be racist there i assume.
just like in Italy

Christopher Phillips
Christopher Phillips

Le Pen is gonna win in France, isn't she .

Christopher Wood
Christopher Wood

Spain isn't colored at all, though, these are just /pol/ memes.
Unlikely because of the astonishing French electoral system, but her party is already the most voted one.

Austin Hughes
Austin Hughes

What do you mean by "perception"?

Adam Baker
Adam Baker

sounds like wishful thinking.
we'll see, the French election is like in 6 months or something.

Matthew Phillips
Matthew Phillips

There is nothing wrong with wanting a nation for your people.

Gabriel Long
Gabriel Long

Italian here.
There's not much homophobia among the young, I think there isn't at all actually, but racism against blacks still exists. And the biggest racism I witness here in the east is against slavs. Deep hatred for slavs, more than muslims and blacks. Which is weird, since we also really like slavic women. Albanian, macedonians and other balkanics are looked down upon the most. Also there's a lot of racism against asians (chinese) and romanians\gypsies.

Joseph Ross
Joseph Ross

your people

Elijah Ortiz
Elijah Ortiz

romanians/gypsies
This made me laugh

Thomas Stewart
Thomas Stewart

Also racism against muslim isn't a thing because muslims and balcanics almost always overlap, so when you see some white woman with hijab you can instantly assume she's albanian and she'll be mocked by it.

Levi Turner
Levi Turner

i always thought that Italians were the least racist people on earth.

Jordan Moore
Jordan Moore

Spain isn't colored at all, though
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Ryder Russell
Ryder Russell

Italienii sunt o grămadă de pizde.

Isaac Howard
Isaac Howard

The reason we fill our country with immigrants is not out of a lack of racism or abundance of humanitarianism, but the powers that be profiting from partaking in human trafficking by being accomplices of professional traffickers in Libya, etc. (would-be immigrants from Nigeria, etc. are stockpiled in what are basically concentration camps on the coasts of Africa) on one hand, and using immigrants as human shields when the European Union wants something from us: "B-But muh immigrants!!! They are many!!! A-And expensive!!!"

Oh, and cheap (clandestine) labor, lest Italian workers demand better conditions, of course.

Now Eastern Europeans are hated because they have, on average, comparable education and skills in scamming people, robbing them, evading the police, etc. to your Italian prole.

Africans who just fled their village f.e. because of Boko Haram was being Boko Haram, are going to be less streetwise on average, so they are hated but not feared, they wouldn't even know where to start in committing a crime in an urban setting and getting away with it.

Something tells me Libyan ideologues don't tell stories like this one to the would-be immigrants, before they pay all they have to come here:
huffingtonpost.com/entry/nigerian-refugee-killed-italy-emmanuel-chidi-namdi_us_577e9e10e4b0c590f7e8702f

Just because Italians welcome you it doesn't mean they don't hate your guts, or that they won't exploit the shit out of you. Nope, this country is not some sort of Sweden.

Julian Johnson
Julian Johnson

i'm not really familiar with Italian politics but is there a right wing party ?
if there is, they aren't really vocal

Justin Reed
Justin Reed

Yes there is but is heavily mocked by all the young people and it basically has no voter base, because that party is that northern secessionist party and that really cuts the support from most italians. Only old people in the North support it and not even that much, it was never close to win anything. Center-right wing parties dominated italian politics until 2011 but they weren't racist at all.

Zachary Baker
Zachary Baker

with there being legitimate laws which can be used to deny Aboriginals the right to vote.

And steal their land, routinely demonize them in the media, steal their children under false pretenses. (Child study showed more child abuse in white communities especially in QLD than Aboriginal, who got the Northern Intervention up their arse though?), systematic erasing of their culture and Australian schools do a woeful job of teaching the crimes against humanity inflicted upon Aboriginal Australia. Literally suffered from a eugenics based Genocide until 1970s.

Australia is bizarre, because I feel Australians are a lot more racist politically, than they are in their day to day life. Xenophobia is one of the top driving factors in political popularity and election outcomes, yet Australia is a wildly diverse country on the ground.

I often talk to workers who have non-white spouses… but then want to deport all non-whites when it comes to politics. Its a bizarre contradiction.

Aiden Morris
Aiden Morris

seems that Italians aren't really interested in ethno-politics.

Jason Anderson
Jason Anderson

not an argument
Indeed my people not somalians, not morrocans but my people.

Parker Thomas
Parker Thomas

Liar.
Ireland is one of the most racist countries on earth.

noticias.uol.com.br/internacional/ultimas-noticias/2015/09/03/agressoes-e-ofensas-brasileiros-relatam-casos-de-xenofobia-na-irlanda.htm

Thomas Allen
Thomas Allen

"Racist" is by and large nothing but an ethnic slur designed to cow and silence a white person when he's expressing an idea you dislike.

Nathan Wood
Nathan Wood

Ireland is one of the most racist countries on earth.
All the people on this world are racist its called nature and there is nothing wrong with it

Evan Roberts
Evan Roberts

It was interesting to learn that Ireland had a legitimate fascist party the 30s. It was called the National Corporate Party and lasted a mere three years. The name seems a friendly reminder just how interlinked corporatism and fascism were as an ideology.

Benjamin Harris
Benjamin Harris

muh anecdotal experience = nature

polchimps gonna chimp

Ayden Flores
Ayden Flores

ahh yes O'Duffy and the blueshirts

most of which later went off to fight for Franco after they deigned into irrelevance. Many Irish did actually. The Catholic Church had total control of the populace and framed the Spanish Civil War as an existential battle for the Catholic faith against godless commies.

it's kind of embarrassing. at least we had the Connolly Column. I wish he hadn't died in the Rising.

Luis Clark
Luis Clark

Groups of living organisms prefer their group go take a first grade biology lesson

Joseph Brooks
Joseph Brooks

human nature
wew hew

Dominic Lopez
Dominic Lopez

not an argument

Cameron James
Cameron James

neither is "human nature"

Dylan Powell
Dylan Powell

So you're a creationist then?

You either believe in the scientific method and the truth, and you apply it to yourself without egotism or else you dont believe in the scientific method and you're kidding yourself

Brody Harris
Brody Harris

the "scientific method of truth" has not made a single point in favour of "human nature"

feel free to prove how the scientific method implies policies should be made according to "human nature", along with a detailed article of what "human nature" is and how you explain the people who do not conform this concept of "human nature"

but you won't because you are a megacuck faggot

Logan Nguyen
Logan Nguyen

Briton here. What is there to say? Xenophobia is big. Always has been. Nationalism permeates every level of society. Class is everywhere. From the moment people open their mouths.

Josiah Lopez
Josiah Lopez

saying someone has stupid ideas when he does isn't bullying.
nice try victimizing yourself tho.

i'm just a poor oppressed racist, how dare they not allow me to kill people because i feel like it !

define "your people"

Oliver Morris
Oliver Morris

sound scary

Isaiah Carter
Isaiah Carter

britbong here

it's there but not as bad as it used to be

Henry Clark
Henry Clark

I live in a liberal state and most young people here are anti racist. I know many older people here who are wiser than that but have to keep thier mouth shut about it.

Eli Brown
Eli Brown

you mean compared to before the Brexit ?

Jonathan Butler
Jonathan Butler

Despite what liberals will have you believe, most Americans are actually not racist. But that will change due to trump. He will make racism an acceptable position again

Connor Thompson
Connor Thompson

So why do I never hear about these terrorist attacks by "White extremists" anywhere?

Juan Morris
Juan Morris

Most likely they include mass shooting incidents. It's a common thing among liberals. You talk about how some Muslim killed a bunch of people and then they bring up some white school shooter. It's a complete false equivalence but retarded liberals don't care.

Brayden Morgan
Brayden Morgan

I mean, how can I believe the assesment "more dangerous" when they don't kill anyone?

If the media loves to complain about white systemic racism, why do they never bring out these KKK shooters killing innocent Jamals and Daquans in the hood? When was the last time a "white extremist" bombed an airport, shot up a concert or nightclub?

Absolute bollocks. Not to mention Islam is probably the most spooked ideology on earth and a truly racist, classist and fascist ideology. So why are people defending it here?

Eli Sanchez
Eli Sanchez

Exactly. Liberal doublethink knows no bounds

Parker Evans
Parker Evans

we can tell you're talking to yourself you know.
how sad is this

Daniel Walker
Daniel Walker

Sort of. More frustrating than scary I would say.

Isaac Hernandez
Isaac Hernandez

Fuck off, and also not an argument

Noah Ward
Noah Ward

The only thing i said is that my people should have a nation of their own

Hudson Miller
Hudson Miller

define "your people"
the people around me that look like me and my family.

William Turner
William Turner

be more specific.
no argument needed when you're talking to yourself, beside, you didn't make any.

Jeremiah Sanchez
Jeremiah Sanchez

I said that those who claim that white extremists kill more than Muslim ones count all mass shooting incidents which is proof of distortion of facts to push an deeply triggering and problematic agenda

Logan Garcia
Logan Garcia

Italians aren't really interested in ethno-politics.
We have never been. Romans fucked and assimilated whoever they wanted. Catholicism is an universalist religion. Far from me to be the apologist of a piece of shit like Mussolini, but even he himself became a full-fledged anti-Semite only after he founded the Repubblica Sociale Italiana in 1943. Yes, even after the Racial Laws that fed some thousands Jews to the Germans, he did that to please Hitler. Margherita Sarfatti, a mistress of his, was a Jewess for cying out loud. He would swallow /pol/'s "red pill" only two years before the end of the War.

As for present day Italy, we're too busy hating one another based on regional differences.

Remember, there is no one Italian language with a bunch of regional and subregional dialects. It's a lie. A noble lie to keep the country from fracturing itself over identity politics, but a lie nonetheless.

"Italian" is an artificial language largely based on Tuscanian. Italians began to speak it for real only after the television began to spread in the country.

Presently the country is economically and culturally divided between North and South, Lega Nord capitalizes on anti-Southerner rhetoric and secessionist fantasies, but they're quite difficult to take seriously.

Whereas their anti-immigration rhetoric, part of the phenomenon that is sweeping all over Europe and got Trump into the bloody White House, is far more likely to be listened to by working class folks and the omnipresent disillusioned former center-left voter, and should worry all of us.

Because this is a generalized problem for the whole continent, and is likely to heighten the racism we've been talking about in this thread.

Julian Gray
Julian Gray

be more specific.
Thats specific for me to know who is part of my tribe if it isnt for you then thats your problem

We have never been. Romans fucked and assimilated whoever they wanted.

this is so false i dont know where to begin

Aaron Miller
Aaron Miller

Tomorrow St. Nicholas and his troupe of Blackfaces will arrive in the Netherlands by steamboat. They sail to a small harbour town and the next weeks he and his helpers will roam the rooftops at night and drop sweets and presents through the chimney until 5 Dec, St. N's birthday and delivery day of a jute bag for every house with presents and humorous rhymes attached to them. That's the folklore. Blackface is the ugly bit. The discussion whether Bf is racist or not has lead to year-round protests. Neo-nazi's of the NVU announced to be present at the boat arrival to protect the character and block the Stop Blackface action group. Threats from the pro-Bf camp on twitter to bring machetes. Hundreds of cops will be there, some of them disguised as Bf and under the instruction to act as if the event were a high-risk soccer match. This means both the Nazi's and anti Bf protesters are seen as hooligans. Today's editorial of liberal shitrag de Volkskrant goes along with the narrative and equals both sides as vandals. The daily St. Nicholas news bulletin on public television cowardly keeps on featuring Bf. Racist tradition is a helluva drug.

Luke Williams
Luke Williams

muh blackface
I agree zwarte piet should be banned as should all the nikkers.

Julian Long
Julian Long

3.bp.blogspot.com/_5fiC8OWSexw/S9rtaCI-zLI/AAAAAAAABNw/eHy3o0soLKc/s1600/Follow 2.jpg

Kevin Reyes
Kevin Reyes

my cherry picking is better than your cherry piking.
okay.

Gavin Johnson
Gavin Johnson

Huh but thats not my leader.
also >not an argument

William Stewart
William Stewart

how many times have you been ran over by a nazi truck?

James Smith
James Smith

thanks for the detailed explanation.
as for the immigration, it really is an European problem.
to fix it either leave the EU or make them act.
that being said France (Sarkozy) and USA (Hillary) made it a whole lot worse by fucking up Libya.

but i don't think most of those illegals want to stay in Italy, do they ?

Josiah Perez
Josiah Perez

never tbh.

Aaron Lopez
Aaron Lopez

sounds like subjective shit based on your feefeels.
not that i was expecting any better tbh.

Adrian Thomas
Adrian Thomas

not really unless you think somalians and japanese people look alike and that is just subjective

Dominic Brooks
Dominic Brooks

Just like you i can't see a difference.

Jeremiah Evans
Jeremiah Evans

Learn abour your roots white pride fan

Parker Flores
Parker Flores

I'm quite happy to ditch black pete and replace him if the nikkers leave im serious about this.

Oliver Nguyen
Oliver Nguyen

Learn about your roots white pride follower

Isaiah Johnson
Isaiah Johnson

not an argument

Aaron Morales
Aaron Morales

responding to catfaggot
why would you do this?

Brandon Campbell
Brandon Campbell

This is the level the pro Bf camp retorts to when the debate is settled. Back to /pol/ KKK fan.

Cameron Evans
Cameron Evans

leave my board
not an argument this is a multicultural board

Nathan Cox
Nathan Cox

KKK fan
Have you been living under a rock?

Evan Long
Evan Long

Does the KKK call itself racist?

Christian Davis
Christian Davis

I dont care for that organization

Leo Adams
Leo Adams

Nikker is kkk language got it?

Jack Lewis
Jack Lewis

No it isn't nikker

Gavin Morales
Gavin Morales

fucking up Libya
Libya, a neighbor and former colony to us, and our southernmost island, Lampedusa, are together the window between Africa and Europe.

thefreethoughtproject.com/declassified-emails-reveal-natos-true-motive-topple-gaddafi-stop-creation-gold-backed-african-currency/

Now that Gaddafi was killed to please the bankers, as Porky was so terrified by his vision of an improved and relatively more independent African economy, Libya is in tatters.

There are two governments, one in Tobruk and one in Tripoli. The Tobruk one is the one officially recognized by the Western powers. They tried to go full Sharia Law. The one in Tripoli is lead by this general guy. They have no intention of recognizing one another as governments in Libya. The administration of other cities may not be loyal to either, and go independent with militias using weapons and vehicles that remained in their hands after the war. You arm all these people, maybe they're gonna do something with it.

That includes nothing less than ISIS. Sirte was kind of ISIS's capital in the West, for example. And you have their allies, Boko Haram in Nigeria spreading like wildfire. So you can probably imagine where do all these immigrants come from, and why.

Of course, all the West cares about is that the sweet crude oil of Libya's desert - it's a rather high quality brand black gold we're talking about - flows into the pockets of Italian and French oil companies.

Of course, the fighting over fossil fuel hasn't stopped yet. Two months ago the Tripoli guys conquered a pair of harbors to make sure the ships deliver the goods to the destinations they want.

Looks like the only way to win, with these "peacekeeping" interventions, is not to play.

but i don't think most of those illegals want to stay in Italy, do they ?
Indeed illegals have no intention of staying here, their goals are in Germany, France, UK, Scandinavia… besides more money and opportunities, there's the thing about having family over there that can motivate them.

Now those members of the EU do spend a lot on helping immigrants, but are hypocritical as fuck about this.

They want the first generation immigrants to live in Italy so they get the 2nd generation immigrants when the formers' sons and daughters move away from here.

State-wise, 1st gen immigrants are kind of an expense, especially if they're destitute, uneducated, have no valuable working skills for a 21st Century industrialized country, don't speak an Indoeuropean language unless it's a bastardized vernacular English or French, are full of psychological trauma due to hardships, etc.

Our fellow EU members have quite refined tastes, and prefer more "civilized" folks in their early 20s, instead of children entering the country without parents or shoes. Naturally, those "upgraded" immigrants would contribute to spread a better image of this immigration thing among the locals.

Kayden Reed
Kayden Reed

youtube.com/watch?v=EmFSR2E4sCY

Andrew Perez
Andrew Perez

Speaking of Africa, is there any hope for it, beyond hoping Sankara-like revolutions happen more frequently?

China is industrializing the crap out of it, which might teach a lot of people jobs, and so on. But we know it is not of selflessness that they do it.

William Morgan
William Morgan

is there any hope for it.
only if China take full control.
i really hope they do, it would benefit everyone.
Chinease will get natural reasources and Africans stability.
seems like a fair deal.

but obviously, thing won't be easy.
other countries want their piece of the African cake and everyone will play on the local tribal factions to spread division.
already happened in the ME.

Owen Flores
Owen Flores

Chinease will get natural reasources and Africans stability.
seems like a fair deal.

So you agree with colonialism then, interesting.

Jacob Parker
Jacob Parker

is there any hope for africa
for the land sure there is, for the people not so much they are a lazy and corrupt peoples

Caleb Wilson
Caleb Wilson

absolutely not !
colonialism was not a deal it was robbery.

colons came by force, took things by force, built things fore themselves and themselves only, mistreated the locale and even genocide them on occasion.

it was anything but a fair deal.

Josiah Peterson
Josiah Peterson

two pictures of asian and black people making weird faces
one flattering and professional picture of a white guy

you sure got me user

Easton Collins
Easton Collins

why are you faceshaming the two people of colour

are you a fucking racist

Blake Bell
Blake Bell

i would rather hang out with a decent black or Asian then a white shitstain tbh. but thats my personal opinion.

but again, you still didn't point out how it was objective

John Long
John Long

you are right they are all the same

Samuel Foster
Samuel Foster

Racism doesn't really exist, it's just a linguistic construct.

Lincoln Lopez
Lincoln Lopez

Did you just ban me because you got triggerd leftypol?

Xavier Parker
Xavier Parker

believing something wrong doesn't make the belief itself non-existent

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