What are your views on affirmative action?

What are your views on affirmative action?

Ineffective at addressing inequality.

socialism is better

bourgeois pacification

A muh privilege. Reformist compromise. Fighting-fire-with-fire. Purchasing of votes. Suppression of revolutionary sentiment.

This is why I'll continue to fight you fucking leftists that keep pushing this bullshit. If more of you were like I'd at least consider joining your side.

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Both want to abolish inequality, and have the same methods. They both think affirmative action is ineffective, and fails to address the fundamental issues that a complete overall of the system would address.

Not against it, but it’s about as “progressive” as having a woman president for its own sake.

I went to an Ivy League school and there were plenty of these multiculty people positively slobbering about how diverse it is to have different millionaires of color.

You realize that Marxposter is probably against inequality too, right? It's a common thread in leftist thought.

Why the fuck would you be in favour of inequality? It serves nobody's interest for there to exist wealth inequality, not even most of the wealthy, as the contradictions of capitalism that lead to inequality also lead to their firms losing profits due to falling demand. Only the hugest firms at the very top of the food chain can survive this type of catastrophe, while most others will likely suffer extinction, and that's saying nothing of the billions of non-owners whose lives and livelihoods will be imperiled by this.

I'm happy for any statistics to prove me otherwise - but outside of individual cases, I'm concerned that on the whole - it creates more division rather than helping address inequality.

Shit. People should recieve affirmative action based on their economic standing not their culture etc.

That's one thing. Pushing for collective inequality reforms that give certain groups advantage over other groups to attempt to correct things or compensate for history are absolute garbage. I'm not about to go against my own self-interests.

good thing he didn't say anything about that. dumbass.

Has said otherwise?

Progressive view: Only makes sense if those lower on the poverty ladder get the extra assistance. Any other form of identity just foments divisiveness.

Marxist view: Almost farcical waste of resources when you could be giving the workers the means of production.

As an ethnic minority, I say it's a horrible monster parading as a saviour.

There are very few jobs where affirmative action is enacted, after all there are only so many managers and academic jobs/places that would be freed up to satisfy a target criteria.

By which I mean lets say 1% of all jobs are store manager jobs for example, and let's say blacks account for 10% of the population but only 5% percent of all store mangers are black, so society only has to shuffle around 5% of 1% to make it representative. So in this scenario we're trying to correct 0.05% of all jobs ie 1/2000 jobs that apparently should be held by blacks.

So the proponent of affirmative action can feel as though he is transforming society (or at least pretend) even though such measures account for little and all the while most minorities will not benefit from this (after all not every white person is a manager or doctor), whilst receiving much ire as they appear to be benefactors and accomplices in this action.

Not only that, it's amusing that big companies are now boasting that their management is now diverse and gender equal.

Because apparently my problems at work are not down to any kind of class antagonism, rather it's because there are too many boots on necks and not enough stilettos on throats.

Yeah thanks, I guess my backbreaking labour is easier to endure knowing that it's a brown guy being the asshole instead of a white guy, how thoughtful of HR.

Plus I'm sure someone else has pointed out that this merely pacifies oppressed minorities, they will now also think they too will wear that oppressive boot one day.

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Wait a second that is literally my fetish

It will act as an equalizer among the proletariat.

White and Black proles are not equal in the US due to looooong standing and continuing oppression.

White people get triggered by Affirmative Action because as Marx said proles compete with each for wages.

ITT: people who know nothing about AA tell us how they feel about the thing they know little to nothing about

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Just leaving this here, you guys can continue

careful now, did you forget where you were? That kind of thought is idpol and that's not allowed here!


here's the rest. have fun with the circle jerk lads

Never go full liberal.

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hi Muke

i think everyone should have the same chances.

Made obsolete by anarchism.

top kek!

Affirmative action gets me jobs and scholarships, but it's bullshit. Far be it from me to turn down free shit.

Kill yourself.